Topic: Ridiculous bonus terms (Read 763 times)

Bonus terms may change from time to time because their purpose is to entice gamblers, and casinos can’t just hand out money without some kind of return as it can be abused otherwise. While these bonuses give gamblers a chance to win, the terms are often tough to meet, and only a few people actually succeed. So if you see the terms and immediately think it’s an easy way to make money, you’re mistaken. It’s usually the other way around.

yes, I think that initially it was easy to take the bonuses from the casinos that gave everyone ready food and now instead they have rightly been on alert due to the ease with which the users took the bonuses and for this reason now it is not easy and the situation has become difficult for everyone

Some casinos have these kind of ridiculous terms for their bonus, and that's the main reason behind the importance of reading the terms of service before taking any bonus or making a deposit.

But we can find the other side of the coin too, i have seen some crazy easy money bonus in casinos in the past, something like make a deposit and you win 200 free spins where you can take the profit and walk away without any other wager.

There is no free money, so their need to be bonus terms but they need to be reachable. Some years ago, you would get bonuses on some bigger casinos where the requirements were quite easy to achieve, but nowadays crazy wagering requirements are seen everywhere so most of the times, I also don't bother when they would offer a bonus.

Just because you, your friend and many other gambler withdrew their bonuses easily, casinos reconsider all the time annoying requirement, making them more complicated to complete each time they run bonus programs. A tricky situation in gambling, when casinos can not make easy to obtain bonuses, at it will be unprofitable and waste of money for them on one hand, and on the other hand they must run bonus programs to be attractive and competitive on the market.

Casinos have their own way so that bonuses cannot be withdrawn easily, because their goal is not to give free money to gamblers but rather it is one of their forms of promotion so that users always play at their casino. It is not new that bonuses will be given with conditions that must be met by users in order to be withdrawn.
I am also not very interested in participating in events or giveaways or the like, because there are almost always terms and conditions that are rarely met. For example, we have to reach a certain turnover to be able to withdraw it, and also usually I am unlucky when using bonuses.

Sometimes when someone takes a bonus offered by a casino, there will be certain new requirements, usually there are new requirements in the minimum withdrawal amount, for example when we make a deposit of $ 50 and take the bonus offer given by the casino, there will be a minimum withdrawal amount with the beginning we already have a profit of 10% or whatever can make a withdrawal but by taking the bonus the withdrawal amount usually has a minimum limit and usually will be twice the amount of the deposit we made at the beginning.
There must be those who are happy with enthusiasm for something like this and there are also those who ignore it, and maybe you are one of those who ignore things like this because maybe with the requirements that complicate it a little.

In one casino i didn`t get such bonus because "You must not withdraw money first two weeks. Only after it you can get you bonus". So there are lots of various ways to legally cheat with the bonus. It is one more trick to get new clients. After such "bonus" i leaved that casino, it is fair as for me, but when we are talking about bonuses during the game - it can be a problem to change casino, so i just don`t try to get it.

Do you know why I do not opt for casino bonuses again? It's because of the insane and annoying requirement you must fulfil before you can withdraw a dime. This is too rampant these days and the hurdles to overcome are getting more difficult and annoying. However, this is not to discourage gamblers entirely, there are still very good and fair bonuses. I've even been given a certain bonus by Stake in November which I was able to withdraw so easily.

The requirements is not easy to fills so we don't have to take the bonus if we think we can not fills that. We will see many other promotions that will not too difficult to fills so we can use the bonus. Usually, we must fills wagering requirements if we want to withdraw our win money which can be too high for us and could makes us lose all of that money. We need to be wise to treat the bonuses so we can benefit from that without have a problem. Besides that, using the bonus will not makes us win easily so we should be careful.

I know for a fact that in other casino gambling that has a 200% bonus on your deposit, you are really obliged to use what is in your balance that you entered on the casino platform that you will play. So if 100$ you will see immediately it is 200$ then you will not be able to withdraw it until you reach their total wager requirements.

or there is that until you run out, the games that you can play with your bet on the game are limited, so from what I discovered, those bonuses are also worthless,
so it is better to just deposit for my opinion.

Its just all part of the scamble. Lmao. That actually goes pretty swell. would you like some scambled eggs? Scam + Gambling = scamble. Is this a word? I feel like it should be haha. Just kidding and poking some fun here not a scam but for real the amount is 60x just to access the bonus funds and withdraw? Crazy .

Maximum gambling sites who give deposits bonus is very hard to use/take the deposit bonus. As you said their terms is too hard to obtain the bonus and use the bonus. Even for same gambling site the using of bonus is just impossible.

Bonuses and perks are really that getting inline with some terms and conditions on which this one is really just that standard, there are really just that those individuals who arent that knowledgeable enough or simply those noobs arent aware with these rollovers. Speaking about the differences about rollovers then these are not really that far to each other but we do know that the lower the better. This is why its really that important that you do really know on what site or platform you are really that dealing on with on which at the moment or time that you do find yourself doesnt really like their terms, then you can anytime switch into other platforms.

They do differ in numbers but not really that much on which it is really that normal that they will really be that having always the advantage towards gamblers. This is how business works and since you've been dealing up with bonuses then you do have to bare on the things that they are really that setting on. This is one of the main reasons on why bonuses isnt something that sparks out my interest because of these kind of terms on which it do really sucks big time. You wont really be able to get out easily if you wont really be that lucky enough.

That's marketing, now many big companies have similarities even with small companies if they want their business to grow then there must be creative actions to make many people curious and do it so that's where the benefits are especially for those who are addicted to gambling, this makes it difficult for them to get out or eliminate their curiosity that is already closely attached to them.

In addition to casinos, other companies will definitely do something like this even though it is likely that they have previously spent a number of yes and considered it all in terms of time, and themselves must also be willing to lose money. The bonuses that casinos give will not make them immediately poor and because I think they have thought about it carefully.

isn’t all bonuses really just beautiful attractions for you to be lured in to their platforms? the more enticing, more attractive the offers are the more gamblers will sign up and play but the casino’s desire for customers will not outweigh their need to make profit so first and foremost even with these bonuses they will make sure that they still earn and you don’t

Every casino or bonus has some sort of conditions or terms. So it is the responsibility of the player to understand the terms and conditions attached to it and see if they can comply with such requirements. Definitely, they will put an ad which is like a bait to the users. It is now up to the user if he will understand such conditions.

You see those deposit X amount to get a certain amount or welcome bonus. I don't do that; I do my regular despite doing my regular bet and leave the casino without thinking about the stress of clearing a bonus wager requirement that might want to ruin my day because the majority of them usually lead to one result, which is coming out with nothing after the stress of trying to hit that target. You will always end up burning your balance before you reach there.

In my experience, it's the casinos that offer the lower matching bonuses but with small wagering requirements that are the fairest. I'd much prefer to only get $100 matched as a welcome bonus with a wagering requirement of 3x as you are likely to end up with a reasonable amount, but the reality is that "get $5000 matched on your first deposit" is just a catchy headline that they can put in adverts to draw people in - the sort of people that believe it get stung the first time when they realize it's totally unachievable to actually make money from it. However by that point they've probably got bored, forgot about the bonus or are chewing into their actual deposit amount and feeling a bit annoyed - but continue to play.

Yeah most bonuses are literally just promotional offers and the concept is pretty logical since there are numerous casinos all over the internet and what would possibly give you the urge to pick up a particular one? Well it's simply choice . Bonuses give you the opportunity to test that particular casino and in the end you may end up liking their services and continue using them other times you may not be pleased enough.
Sometimes flipping bonuses on casinos can. Be difficult but it doesn't directly mean you were programmed to lose rather most times it's more of being very lucky too.

I don't find a valid reason to bother with them. It's quite sensible that they wouldn't be handing out money just for depositing an X amount; that would be absurd; however, I do find some of their terms ridiculous. I'm not sure if they're still a thing, as this was more than 10 years ago, but I remember platforms like eToro, Forex, etc. that had a "demo" account with a fake, digital balance to play with stocks and so on. This is what I consider casino bonuses: trial balances to mess around with. You can hardly ever withdraw your winnings, either from the deposit bonus or from your winnings that derived from the free spins you were gifted, like in the OP's example. It's just money to mess around.

This is the main reason I don't bother; if I'm given something for free, even if it has those requirements, that's fine, but I'm not going to go after them.

I find casinos terms and conditions like a small  English essays to test one's comprehension.

Online casinos try their best to be open when they give out their bonuses and there is a part where you are required to either accept or reject the bonus. I don't blame them when players complain about the bonus. It is just that the players are too carried away by the bonus that they confuse it for free money when indeed it is not free.

I don't aways support some casinos and their behaviours but players also have some portion of the blame because they forget that it is business and foundation that gives out free money like financial stimulus

I have received many different bonuses from casinos and the conditions have always been feasible. I remember bonus promo codes for spins, as well as for roulette, which I won in poker tournaments. And the conditions were always empty and complicated but quite feasible. These are the usual conditions for wagering the required amount, these are the conditions for verification and for replenishing your deposit. And it was always possible to either play the bonus money or win something on them and withdraw.

And it worked quite normally, so I will say - no, I have not seen very strange or impossible conditions of bonus programs.

Unfair casinos may use bonus as some kind of  "bait and switch" and advertise it as bargain opt at gambling while fair ones did not generally offer much for the free spins and don't take "a hard-sell approach" in their business. Thus your reasoning is quite understandable for me.  Any way one should always pay attention to the relevant "Terms & Conditions"-clause before making decision on whether it worth  to use the  free spins or not.

Sad to say but this is the norm of new casino nowadays. It’s better to play without this shitty bonuses since you don’t need to force yourself on playing to complete the wagering requirements that almost hard to complete.

There’s still some casino that offers no bullshit bonuses but expect the reward to be much lower compared to the casino that offers lucrative rewards but backup with tremendous requirements just to claim the rewards.

Worst requirements so far is the max win and the restrictions on bet amount to push user to become impatient on playing to commit gambling mistakes.

Most casinos do not restrict which type of games you play and that type of games like dice can help you reach that x60 wager requirements. I don't like though such type of casinos and in those casinos I may have left my accounts with bonuses to be unlocked but that are very difficult to achieve so for this reason my accounts in these casinos are abandoned. Personally I like casinos that do not give a damn even if you withdraw your bonus with 0x wager requirement, they are not good no and they are not thinking about you, they just know you will come back and lose your money.

Although every casino has their own rule and gambler's requirement to claim a bonus, for the casino I frequently use, they have some requirements that I don't usually get to fulfill to be able to withdraw the bonus and because of that, I don't see any need for the bonus. The only bonus that I get more frequently is from a bookie and they don't have so much conditions on that bonus, all you have to do is place a bet with the bonus and if you win, you can withdraw it no matter the amount.  @OP, there's no casino without conditions attached to their bonus.

It is crystal clear that these casino bonuses lead nowhere. Casinos use these features to keep us gambled, and of course, they benefit from it in return. Of course, there is nothing wrong with that because it is our choice to play, but let us not expect to actually gain anything from these offers.
My advice to beginners? Be cautious about the flashy promotions and bonuses casinos offer because most of them don’t do us any good. In my opinion, these so-called “bonus features” only make things harder for us in the long run.

Well you need to read the bonus term very carefully because like you have said before sometimes it just to lure a new user to play and most of them has Ridiculous bonus terms especially in the new casoino

People must concern about the wagering requirements because many of them having difficulty to understand the rules and just makes themselves in trouble. If they can think twice for the requirement that is not easy for them to fill, they don't have to force to take the promo or bonus. They can wait for the next promo that will comes because the casino will always gives the promo continouosly.

We must be wise to take the bonuses and let us in trouble. Many promotions that the casino will launch so we must choose the promo that we can participate and leave the other promo because that is too difficult for us.

Yes, that is right but before they take the bonus, they should consider to read the rules so they can understand and can decide to take or leave it. Free spins is something that attract people to try so they willing to participate because they know that free spins can gives them the winning. But they must realize that behind on that bonus, there will be requirements that they must fill.

So the free one will not be free when they still need to pay. But yes, something free will always makes them curious how good their lucky in that games. So that makes them want to participate with the promo but they must make sure that they are understand the rules. They should know what they need to choose from the promo so they will not get in trouble while they can enjoy the free bonus.

Bonuses have tickled nerves, the same as regular game would do, so its no difference then.  I see bonuses as a regular game, but with extra spicing. And I came to conclusion that people use bonuses wrong. Usually wagering requirement scares them. However, nobody force to nobody to complete that wagering requirement instantly or quickly. People should take their time, spend hours or maybe days, gambling carefully, without unnecessary risk, trying to find easy bets. But instead, they go max bet, max risk kind of thing, lose quickly, rushing to finish requirement as quick as possible, and claim that bonuses suck.

The similarity here is that every casino will most likely provide or offer its customers bonuses or promotions that they can claim but with some slightly different rules but with the general rules not much different, Maybe for people who gamble with a response to make a profit they will always be ready and respond to the bonuses or promotions offered quickly, but with you who ignore it is not strange because not everyone is happy with the bonuses or promotions offered by the casino.
Indeed, it is a fact that the bonuses that casinos provide are still their marketing strategy to develop their casinos in many ways, be it popularity, reputation or profit. This is natural for them to do because they also want their business to grow.

yeah that's right, bonuses are definitely something that casinos do even though they have to spend some money but behind that they definitely have a goal to keep them profitable and another goal is to keep players comfortable and stay in their casinos with them getting bonuses then it can make them think that the casino that gives the bonus has a good reputation.

The bonuses or promotions that casinos provide aim to make their players more comfortable gambling in their casinos, some people will be happy with this but some people might ignore it because it has slightly different requirements than usual.

Online casinos have different ToS when it comes to free bonuses and spins, and for me I found so many of them to be too demanding for me, it is the reason why I don't give face to free bonuses, I would rather ignore them.

If you don't know already, free bonuses are still part of a marketing strategy from online casinos, if you are someone like me it is better to avoid but if you are up for the trouble surrounding the criteria then you should be fine.

You are not alone, am that kind of person that hates wasting time with such bonuses and the worst part is learning from past experiences with withdraws being delayed and all that..am just not a fun of bonuses anymore as these are a source of bad relationships between player and casino and sometimes I think the deposit/winning is used as ransom for you to do whatever they are asking for!

So if it's not a casino I haven't used for a while forget about any kind of bonuses.

I have concluded that all bonuses are just beautiful marketing to keep the player in the game as much as possible or to invite even more people by advertising bonus promotions. All the bonuses I heard about from my friends did not bring any profit but tickled my nerves well and worked exclusively in favor of the casino.

Yes, the requirements is too high for us to fills but some gamblers will not think like that. They want to follow the requirement without think if they can do that or just to spend more money. They only see the winning that they already got before and they want to withdraw the money without thinks that can makes them use more money. Usually wagering will be the problem for many gamblers so that is why they must read the requirements before they take the promo. I always suggest not to chase the promo if we think that is too difficult for us to fill. It is better we just deposit the minimum amount that the casino wants and start playing gambling so we don't have to think about the requirements.

The fact is, bonuses are just play tasks that make losing nothing interesting maybe some hope to win but the reality is not.
Even with you get a bonus and then lose and deposit again it makes the condition worse, the article used to experience like that starting from the bonus even lost a lot of money because of his own mistakes in the sense of chasing losses.
Don't expect too much with bonuses, I prefer sports freebets that can be withdrawn after winning tickets.

I have long ago stopped considering bonus systems as serious offers from casinos, although I once spent a lot of time, money and nerves in pursuit of bonuses. Consider the bonus system as an addition to your regular gambling activity, but in no case do not try to make money on it, as many beginners do, who end up losing even more. Play gambling for fun and try not to pay attention to all these bonus systems and gift promotions.

Indeed the casino bonuses are no free meals, they're there to entice you to gamble more, if you understand it then you won't get too excited about the bonus offers. If a freebie will come with a baggage of terms and conditions before you can withdraw your wins, that means that it's not really a giveaway in the charitable sense. Gamblers are meant to lose more than they win in casinos so we shouldn't really see their bonuses as free. Focus on your bankroll to gamble and you'll take your wins without any conditions attached to it.

There's no guarantee to trust the process of having bonuses, and for my own personal take towards that has no assurance which actual constitutes to trust issues. However, it's hard for addicted gamblers to accept the fact that gambling always been biased to loss rather than to win. That the sad reality, how much more we've been tricked with so called bonuses terms.

It's a good idea to be cautious of bonus terms that can seem too good to be true.  Sure, there are new casinos that offer great things to get you to try them out, but there are plenty more scams that just want to talk you into depositing crypto by any means necessary in order to steal your funds.  Stay safe out there.  No promise is worth risking losing your funds.  Do your own research and choose reputable online casinos if you want to play fair and have a good experience.

That's is why I don't also like bonuses and many tends not to be happy with casinos that doesn't offer bonuses, most times they made it looks like the casinos aren't doing the right thing for not giving a first time bonus or, registration bonus and referral bonus. People are so much attached to it but if they dip down there and understand how these bonuses are being operated you would be mad at yourself. Therefore I do not really clamor for free spin and sometimes deposit bonus, if you must know it's just like giving you gift into a leaking bag as you move those gifts keeps dropping by and they go back to have it again without your knowledge.

That's what I don't like at all about bonuses, rather than expecting a bonus by spending a lot of time to reach the requirements, then I personally prefer to make a deposit and be able to bet regularly. Maybe, if the site gives a bonus but, on the other hand I really like the site from many factors such as appearance, lightness, and also good betting markets. Then I will stick with  that platform. But yes, if they give a very attractive bonus but I don't like their platform for other reasons, then I don't care about the bonus because it would  be better for me to use something else. So yes, for me personally the bonus does not make me have more love, but what makes me comfortable in using a site is because of their services and features that make users feel comfortable in using it.

Won't people who do not gamble much are likely to be attracted by free spins or any kinds of bonuses offered by the casino? They can justify gambling by saying that it is okay because they only gamble not so often and it is free anyway until you see them getting desperate for bonuses just to play.
Some people do not think too much to be honest. A free whatever is free. Period. All people can think of now is that they are getting something for free even if technically it is no longer free because they still need to pay.

The bonus is tempting but look again about the wagering requirements and how much to deposit, sometimes more bonus deposits will be more but don't be fooled even though the bonus is real it is difficult to win.
So I myself am not interested in bonuses, in the sense that playing gambling is not to pursue bonuses, especially with high betting requirements, you can lose the game.

I have no idea which casino you are referring to that has 60x wagering requirement on their free spins bonus, does it even exist? Sorry for asking because 50x is the highest one that I have ever seen.
Can you give more details about this bonus, providing the whole terms about it that you can copy from the terms of the bonus you are talking about.
In general, you are not forced to take the bonus, it is just an offer that you are free to decide whether to take it or skip it so once you take it means that you should have read the whole terms of the bonus.
Complaining after you take it because you did not read the terms is your own fault, so bear in mind that you should always read the terms of any bonuses if you want to take it so you wont complain later.

The whole thing all goes back down to terms and conditions. Different casinos have their different rules and conditions for your bonus withdrawal and it actually differs. For some it's very restrictive and for others it can be quite flexible too. In my experience depending on the particular type of bonus, betting requirements sometimes depends on the bonus amount. In addition to that most of the restrictions come when you attempt withdrawal.

For some I've got to experience, you are usually given a wager requirement that must be met in a single bet for you to be able to unlock withdrawal of that particular bonus. It's easy to meet them if you win most of your wagers and bets too.

And in the process of gambling with the bonus, nearly almost everyone given the bonus will lose the money. Which means the task given is not just a task, but a task to gamble and lose the money. Some people will see the site to be good and start using the gambling site to gamble more which may lead to more losses. This should not be hard for experienced gamblers to understand but newbies can fall for it. I also do not like bonuses.

You're very right but we must know that casinos are individual or group of persons business and they must do things that will benefit them, in as much as they want to lure in more people to gamble in their platform with those bonuses and promos they create, they will also want to do it in such a way that it will be used by serious people in their site and thats the major reason they attach terms and conditions to their bonuses, some people just register in online casino to get bonus so that they can gamble with it, for me i will not call any bonus ridiculous as you said because i have come to realize that casinos are people's business as such it's not a place to do give away that's why if they bring initiative of promos or bonuses it must be in their favour and also to an extent favour the users of the platform but before any user can benefit from the aforementioned, such user must follow the terms and conditions adequately if not the user may have problem when it's time to withdraw so it's advisable to read the terms and conditions and must adhere to them strictly.

That bonus attracts a lot of attention from users, but it's not free you still have to complete the wagering requirements to withdraw it.

Moreover, the ToS rules must be read carefully and see what the wagering requirements are whether it is 35x or 60x but this is too much if 60x times then it is difficult for users.

Sometimes there is a bonus but the balance goes to the bonus balance instead of the main balance,
Yeah every casino is different in this regard, but if the requirements are too complicated then it's better to skip it.

This is the reason why I do not ever take deposit bonuses which have a lot of requirements. If you deposit $50 and get another $50 as a bonus, you have to wager $2000 on certain games to unlock it. With these $100, you won't be able to wager $2000 on slots if you are not extremely lucky. Taking these bonuses means you are tied to the casino. Either you have to complete these unrealistic wager requirements, or you have to cancel the bonus. Moreover, if you decide to cancel the bonus but you already lose part of your balance, they will deduct it from your main balance which has happened to me once. Then I promised myself that I was not going to do this anymore.

Yeah, by following the procedure for withdrawal of the bonus the gambler gets to withdraw the bonus given by the casino except he didn't follow correctly. On the other hand, if I get to receive a bonus and learning about the rules to be able to withdraw, the simple thing I do if I can't follow through to fulfil the conditions is just to ignore the bonus allowing it to expire without hard feelings than nagging about it.

Since the past I have rarely chased such bonuses since I learned how bonuses work which ultimately wastes time and ends in vain.
In any casino, even on local casino sites, I very rarely and almost never use deposit bonuses or anything and prefer to focus on my main goal of making a deposit and betting on the games I want to play. It's much better than having to chase small amounts that interfere with my time to have fun.
Except chasing event bonuses or weekly bonuses, maybe that's much better.

There is no free in this world, even when casinos give free spins and bonuses to their users, it will still benefit them because often every time free spins are given there will be terms and conditions that are also a applicable,  besides that with bonuses and free spins given usually only to attract new players, even they offer the opportunity to play without financial risk, however on the other hand, there is a trap that allows each player to eventually must to deposit funds and play with a certain amount to get free spins or withdraw the winning balance of the free spins, in my opinion, as gamblers we should still think rationally if every something that is free is usually something that allows us to must to pay eventually .

I don't think I have big interest with bonuses as I am not a big gambler who can use big money to gamble. I know that the bonus will tempt me to deposit more money and fills the requirement but I don't want to try it. The last time I try makes me lose all of my deposit so I don't want to get the same experienced.

Getting the bonus will makes us happy but we must consider about the requirement behind that bonus. You must be wise if you want to takes the bonus and not spends too big money.

Yes, I also started to be wary and attentive to free spins a long time ago. To be honest, this is the thing that will definitely not make me make a deposit, because it does not motivate me. I just fell for it once and I do not want to go through wager after wager that is impossible to win back. Of course, I understand that the casino is also not interested in giving all users money, but in order to attract a user, this looks good. Probably, it was just that multi-accountants began to abuse this, who used this bonus many times and withdrew the profit, and then did not appear. In general, now this is the norm for many casinos.

In most cases, the requirements are indeed quite high to receive a bonus. The most problematic thing is to withdraw money. Usually, this requires making a deposit, and then playing back some time and wagering. This brings quite a lot of inconvenience to the player. It is better to play only with your own funds and not chase bonuses that are very attractive at first glance.

They are making these promotions so they could make more money. All they want is to attract players into playing. Otherwise what’s the point? They would be giving away free money. Players should never forget that casinos ain’t no charities. Running a casino is a serious business. Occasionally they might make giveaways but even then, their real intention is still to attract players.

If casino give limited or decreased bonus and force to wager it only on slots, and moreover on specific slots, then this is indeed ridiculous, unfair and looks like scam. But I would like to focus on 60x wagering. That is true a lot, but I have seen when casino ask to wager bonus amount 10x, 20x, and people call that impossible to do. What I think is that people should simply not rush and play all-in all the time. When casino ask to wager bonus amount, they usually dont give terms limitation (there are some, but that could be done in week or two). They only want gambler to play longer, to spend time, and not drop by and leave in few minutes.

Correct.
If we read the requirements more attentively, we can find all these restrictions, but i don`t want to search it. I want to get easy terms like - i deposit $100, get $10 free spins, everything i`ve got - i can withdraw any moment.
I can`t say that i don`t use such casinos, but i stopped hunting bonuses and ignore games, i don`t interest in. If i got free spins - i could spend it and, may be, play several games for money. Now i don`t care how many free spins i have - i willn`t spent even penny for such games.

Everyone should know that gambling sites are doing no promotions for no reason than to look for customers to enjoy gambling on their site and lose more money to them (the gambling site). I think this is no-brainer but some people still do not understand.

There are still some gambling sites that give bonus, but I noticed it is no more common on bitcoin and other crypto gambling sites as it was in 3 or more years ago, especially as those sites giving the bonuses become older and reputed. As more people are using them, they have the traffic already and decided to limit the promotional offers.

I dont get why people complain over bonuses and competitions. No one forces anyone to participate or take them. Just pass and gamble how you like. Casino or any other business is not a charity. Their goal is to earn, but not to give something for free. Consider bonus as a challenge for those who are bored with regular gambling.

In fact, bonuses were better, bigger and easier to get in past. But army of bonus hunters, milked industry so hard, that casinos have to make bonuses more challenging today. That is why instead of complaining how ridiculous bonuses are, say thank you to bonus hunters.

If we asked in this thread how many people can meet these bonus requirements, we would see that perhaps the number of people would not exceed 10. In my opinion, many casinos when they place these high requirements are sending the following message: "we are giving you a bonus because if we didn't place them you wouldn't use the casino, but you won't be able to withdraw this bonus". The casinos know very well that the few people who manage to profit from the casinos, take the money they won and continue playing. So even if the casinos offered $5 in spins with no requirements, most people would play with the $5 and lose everything.

Actually bonuses are good tool in the hands of the casinos, most especially it helps them to give the gambler imaginary money as bonuses then force them to wager the bonus+balance and if luck is on your side you win against the house neet up with the X wager conditions, then you can withdraw, I avoid any bonus conditions that is above 1x because at that point if anything above that 1x-5x wagering requirements it out of my bound I avoid them. In simple terms, bonuses are traps to get the player down on the casino the gives you the bonus you have to spend it on the house, slot players understand this more because their are always chasing the bonuses.

Normal wagering requirement for such a bonus is between 30x-40x, so if you find bigger wagering requirement, better to avoid it and I can agree that it is ridiculous wagering requirement. While other requirement such as limited slot games which contribute towards wagering requirement is normal, non-slot games may contribute but with less percentage (under 10%). This is simply because bonuses are designed not to make players get more chance to make profit, it gives some more balance only but the bigger balance we get from the bonus means that the higher amount we need to wager in order to unlock withdrawal.

Its not a mistery that in some cases you must avoid bonus in casinos.
It's not matter of "illusion" or something else. You must choose your bonus according your gambling style. You must not change it.
Of course they are not giving free money. Planning how to fullful requirements and optimizing outcome it should be also an important step if you want achieve the maximum from the free chance.

That is why I usually ignore bonuses. I'm not clear if in the crypto world the terms are more difficult to meet than in fiat rooms, although from cases I've seen on the forum, like that X60 wagering requirements that the OP cites I'd say yes. Normally the bonuses give the illusion of giving you an advantage but end up giving more profit to the house, one way or another.

Well, some casinos have really ridiculous bonus terms... I think it's not the issue in rollover (at least not for me), but it's funny when they have limits on max win, max withdrawal, just specific slots available for playing, asking for an extra deposit before we can withdraw. As I remember bonuses before were simple, they give us bonus money we have to play & wager and that's it, fair and square. Now some casinos are using tricks and I feel like we have to risk a lot more and if we get lucky (and that doesn't always happen in slots) we will not get the prizes.

So, it's definitely important to read the ToS before deciding to play with bonus...

I understand the frustration that you are pointing out but this is how it has worked for a long time now. The freebies aren't meant to get out, they want to stay inside the online casino and be used to gamble more. I always think of the freebies as fake money, you won't be able to withdraw it but you can play with it. With that kind of idea, I am avoiding the frustration that I will receive even if it wins or loses because I know there's a wagering requirement glued into it even if I win like x10 of the amount that was given which I doubt could happen.
It's our choice if we don't want it or not, it's just there as an invitational promotion and not really as a charity that we can withdraw once we get it.

So it seems that there were already topics about the tricks when withdrawing bonuses in which this was discussed. If you are not an avid player, then the bonus will not bring you any benefit, so you do not need to use it. An avid player would have played with or without a bonus anyway. The bonus may not benefit him either, but it won't hurt either. The bonus can be perceived as a marketing campaign to attract new players, and not as a gift. There are too many difficult conditions inside such a gift.

I think the bonus would be higher if some strings were attached to it, such as the amount of wagers you need to fulfill to get the best results for their promo. I don’t think it is good, but it’s just their way of giving back to members.

I have reread it many times to understand what the OP said, I still don't understand it even though I have read it many times and understood it, I understand better what you said that when the casino gives a deposit bonus, usually we can't withdraw it directly because there are new rules such as the minimum withdrawal amount being twice the general rules.
But when we make a deposit, does the bonus just go straight in and we have to follow the available requirements, because I myself choose not to take the bonus because the rules usually make everything more complicated.

Yes, you are right because I also not have a big intention with the bonuses and only want to use a normal things. Bonus can be interesting to get but we must make sure that we know how the rules works so we don't think that the casino trick us because we don't know anything.

But we know gamblers can be greedy to chase the bonus and will do anything to get their money. They will not thinks that the requirements will be too high for them but they will trying to get it by keep playing.

Which casino you played?

In my experience, I have never had this kind requirement where they ask you to complete rollover with free spins limit. Most of them are asking to complete rollover with the free spins I won and they give limited time to complete it, like 2 weeks.

They didn't limit the games I played, but if they ask for 2 weeks, then I have limit to betting on sports.

In my opinion, almost all casinos or gambling sites that I use are always like that, they will give bonuses and can enter your account if all the requirements are met but if you calculate it, it is not worth it because we lose more money even though in slot game there will be certain return.
If you don't like it, it better not to finish it and just forget about the bonus, after all, bonuses are also intended for those who can lose their money, bonuses like that always make it difficult if we don't prepare more money and gambling sites also don't want to lose more money for the bonuses they give to customers.

First, Casino is a business and they expect profit so the rules in the bonus or free spins that are distributed are common, no casino gives a bonus without wager requirement.
Second, the case you mentioned is very rare for me to hear and 60x wager is too high.
Third, players should read every rule of the bonus first if it is considered unreasonable then play normally without ever claiming the bonus.

It's been that way for quite some time, and they could add more restrictions in the future once they frequently see gamblers winning with these bonuses.

The wagering requirement alone is one of the reasons why I don't opt for these bonuses, there's no need to make your gambling session harder in exchange for a bankroll boost or extra spins that would lock your funds and require thousands of spins to clear.

Lol op this thread seem a bit funny to me. You're on point mate, this is what most casinos do just to get their their bettors started with the mood of wanting to gamble with their real funds. I've come across some unspeakable wager requirement of casinos all with the purpose of making withdrawal frustrating to the bettor, I don't know about others but this gets me irritated of the casino. There was a casino I gambled on, with real funds and I literally saw the withdrawal amount adjusted due to the amount I have in the casino.  I left so cheated and just had to wager all my funds irresponsibly, which lead to losses. I they just lost a bettor, because I'm never using their service anymore.

I think one of the reasons is indeed that some players try to take advantage of those bonuses, for example with multi accounts. They should have more favorable terms for players who went through KYC. Otherwise I can understand that they are undergoing massive risks because of potential abuses.

Via those terms they can literally nullify all the bonuses they are offering and since you have now brought up slot machines and these crazy rollover requirements, it is definitely not possible most of the time unless you hit a jackpot or something.

But if I understand you correctly, if you have a $5 free spin, then winnings from that free spin are also limited to $5? What if you win $100 with that free spin, would you then have to wager $6000 with those $100 in winnings while you are still limited to $5 per spin?

Bonuses that will not give you anything in the end. To attract people, bonus systems are given on casino platforms. Casino platforms create bonus systems in such a way that people are attracted and deposit. We get greedy on various casino platforms after seeing bonus offers and take bonuses. We do not think that there is nothing to gain from bonus offers. Many times it is seen that there are many conditions given to get bonus offers, from which if some conditions are not met, the bonus is excluded. Moreover, as a result of giving bonuses, some ridiculous conditions are given that one has to go through many complicated conditions at a time to fulfill the conditions. So I think casino bonus systems are a complete waste of time, it is better not to run after these bonus systems.

Don’t fall for the word “free” because casinos never give anything for free without terms attached. It’s important to understand that they’re not running a charity, so all their promos are designed to entice gamblers to play, ensuring they profit in the end.

Even with so-called bonuses, the casino still has the edge, not just from the games but also from the bonus terms themselves. You can’t really blame them for this; those who understand won’t complain. That’s why it’s essential to read the terms carefully so you can decide whether to opt in or just stay as you are.

You are absolutely correct, the more casinos offer bonuses the more ridiculous their terms and conditions will be. It is essential for players to carefully review the terms and conditions before accepting a bonus. This helps ensure that they understand the rules can make informed decisions about their gaming activity and maximize their experience.

I have seen some of these outrageous conditions in the past especially among new and unserious casinos but gradually they are streamlining it to wagering conditions probably due to the competition in the casino business. Any casino with unrealistic condition is definitely a red flag for me because if they cannot be sincere with their bonuses and would want their customers never to withdraw them, there is therefore the possibility that when a big win happens with deposits, they will cook up one excuse or  to deny their customer their genuine winning. It is therefore fine to say that the action of the casino in respect of their bonus is important indication of the reliability of the casino.

Do you just say almost, i think in most cases it is impossible, you cant expect that they gave you some bonus now to expect you to gamble with it and make more money so that you can always log in to their platform, gamble and place bets, but when they remove the restriction on you and then one can withdraw their bonus, then that shows that they are not professional in what they do, because this kind act will be be a profitable one to them by any chance and they are going top run on a serious loss, if care is not taken, through this they can fold up as well, but when they offer a bonus and we take such, we are expected to use it to gamble and maintain using their platform for gambling.

The purposes of deposit bonus is to attract people to register and the purpose of restricting how you use the bonus is to make sure you lose out on it and these restrictions are either increasing how much to wager, how many times to wager and the game to play on. Of course there is no free meal anywhere, casinos are in for business, There is no need to worry on such bonus because it is not easy.

Usually I do not attracted by these free spin and mostly for those who plays casino games, unlike the deposit bonuses. For sports betting is not that common and since I don't put much attention to slot or dice I wouldn't face that difficulties, except for the welcome bonus.
But we should know that free spin are designed in away that one must gamble and make deposit to hit a specific multiplier before they could be permitted to make withdrawal but other hands making to feel that are giving free spin. I think similar concerned has been raised before if I am not mistakenly.

Some ToS only shows that nothing comes for free. OP I guess you should be familiar with this phrase "Nothing is free even in free town" Yeah it applies to this, just as you acroman08 has said different casinos have different ToS and its best for us to read them carefully and of we aren't convenient with it then we should let go.

Casinos this days just promote free spin or bonuses for engagement purposes once you've entered into hunting this bonuses you will ended you hunting yourself because sometimes it's very difficult to win as casinos do fix certain odds within some games so in my opinion whatsoever you are not okay with just skip it.

I won't also do some deposits with that, if I can use the giveaway money that I have received and won some money, that's where it is all going to rotate.

The wagering requirements for a specific amount and more likely 2x of the bonus that I've got is going to be met with that money not from my pocket.

I think most of the gamblers that are aware of this rules have already set their own rules as well on how they are going to meet the requirements without touching their pockets.

Every site is different of course but some sites, in terms of their rollover terms, are much worse than other of course.
There is a scam accusation currently against nitrobetting (or whatever they are calling themselves these days) where the player unknowingly got the deposit bonus. Now he can only withdraw once he has finished the 35x (or more) rollover.
Having this 35x wager is bad enough but now what they do is limiting your account to micro bets so that you have to make hundreds of sports bets to finish this rollover, which is ridiculous.

I had a similar problem with BC just now. Got a free bet, won this bet and got like 6$. According to the rules of the promo you have to wager those around 6$ 10 times to unlock the funds. But of course it's not that easy since they are hiding rules and they are not even written on the site. Heck not even even my host or the support knew what's going on, at least so they claimed. I figured it out myself though because I wagered over 200$ on sports and only 80% of the rollover was completed.
Now what they do is, only count 50% of my bets towards the rollover. And not only that, they also capped the maximum bet amount. Meaning, when I made a 20$ bet they only counted 10$ toward the wager. When I made a 120$ bet they only counted 20$ towards the wager, because of the cap of 20$, no matter how big your bets was..
So the advertised rollover is 10x but it's actually 20x (because only 50% of the bet amount count) , calculate the cap in and the requirement is even higher than 20x. So that's ridiculous bonus terms.

I have come across all the other points but I've never seen a casino limit how much you can win from freespins they provided. If you win more than that does it get deducted from your wallet or you're just unable to spend it at all?

Some try to control how you play by giving a range of odds you can bet on, but that can't be done for slots, so it's interesting how this can be enforced and why not just give me $5 from the start with the wagering requirement

As far as I know, ToS on free spins can be different for each promotion/bonus. this is why it is extremely important to read the specific ToS for that promotion or at least ask their support for more info regarding the promotion/bonus you are curious about, it could save you a lot of hassle, especially if you just want to gamble without doing an ungodly amount of wager requirements.

Well, that's the thing. When the terms for something as simple as free spins are so convoluted like having to do 60x to withdraw some pennies, why should I trust them with a type of bonus that could keep my money bound to a wagering requitement that may be equally ridiculous?

When things aren't kept simple I'll either have to spend more time reading rules than playing or just avoid these shady promos altogether. I don't know why do many casinos these days and she follow the latter.

The terms of use of casino bonuses have been made so to make sure that some greedy people do not take advantage of them. This is why I think that they make these terms and conditions to make sure that they are giving bonuses to people who have the intention to actually gamble on their platform, not bonus hunters. Some terms are quite ridiculous though, and the more unwilling a casino is to give bonuses the more ridiculous the terms and conditions will be.

I do not understand this at all. If a casino gives you deposit bonus, you can not be able to withdraw the deposit bonus until you follow the rules and you win. So if a casino give you a deposit bonus, you will still follow rules like multiply the money 2 or 3 times or more before you will be able to withdraw any money on the casino.

Some crypto casinos really get creative when it comes to allowing you to withdraw bonuses. The terms are so restrictive it's almost impossible.

They may give you a bonus, let's say in the form of free spins... And then your free spins may end up netting you 20$ in winnings. Well,.you will find out that free spins are limited to up to 5$ per giveaway of free spins... And then you at least have 5$ right? Well, no! You still have to fulfill a wagger limits. And your 5$ had to be staggered at least to a gross turnover of $300! That's 60x... And not only that, you can only wagger on a selection of slot games and nothing else. If the wagering could be done on dice or something with low house edge, whatever. But they really really don't want you to win anything by forcing you to play slots with 5$.

Anyway. When I see something like this for free spins I'll be sure to never use any deposit bonus in such casino. Bonuses don't have to be huge when you're forced to lose everything. Just give a few cents and might as well keep it simple and give nothing. Right?