Ripple is at it again with their dirty old tricks.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on January 27, 2025, 12:44:53 AM

Everyone wants to make a profit and wants their business to succeed. But people who trick people and trick the system cannot be successful. I don't know if the statement "China controls Bitcoin" is really from the XRP officials. If it is, then it's nonsense and proves that they will do anything to include XRP in the strategic reserve and exclude Bitcoin. But, I don't think that is going to happen.

To succeed in business, it's important to concentrate on your operations rather than trying to hinder your competitors. Even if you achieve success by slowing down others, once people become aware of your tactics, you may face negative consequences. Focus on building your business rather than competing unfairly.

Agreed.
You either are good and better than somebody else or you won't be chosen as a means of doing business.
Making a harder life for others would bring whiplash in the future for those who love the opposite ways of doing things.

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Well, bitcoin value depends on itself; it doesn't even need governmental influence action. With the value of bitcoin, decentralisation doesn't associate with mixing up a crypto reserve with XRP; however, this strategy of bitcoin reserves needs to give precedent to bitcoin's special security; moreover, it should not be XRP's interest and not government influencing efforts too. Despite the facts that their developing hatred to bitcoin, and based on the fundamental strength, bitcoin value will continue to go higher.

https://protos.com/ripple-scores-victory-against-the-bitcoin-strategic-reserve/

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Everyone wants to make a profit and wants their business to succeed. But people who trick people and trick the system cannot be successful. I don't know if the statement "China controls Bitcoin" is really from the XRP officials. If it is, then it's nonsense and proves that they will do anything to include XRP in the strategic reserve and exclude Bitcoin. But, I don't think that is going to happen.

To succeed in business, it's important to concentrate on your operations rather than trying to hinder your competitors. Even if you achieve success by slowing down others, once people become aware of your tactics, you may face negative consequences. Focus on building your business rather than competing unfairly.

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Quote from: AirtelBuzz on January 24, 2025, 11:59:45 PM

Quote from: NotATether on January 24, 2025, 11:00:19 PM

This is who is trying to sabotage the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve.

Even if they try to sabotage, they may not succeed, because recently Exodus CEO says there is no XRP strategic reserve only for Bitcoin strategic reserve, which means that Americans only want Bitcoin Reserve.

I think XRP is CBDC but Bitcoin is freedom for everyone.

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Ripple has no place at the policy table in the Trump administration.

https://x.com/BitPaine/status/1882740240076738950?t=lzgtqLgHVAxsgeYmsN9orA&s=19

I'm not so sure about XRP/Ripple. I have held onto 1000 coins that I bought at 50 cents mostly and its great and all that I have some XRP and its raised in price but honestly I am thinking about moving it and checking out XCN its been going up like crazy. XRP though for sure has made serious progress this year with their positive ending to the SEC case and I think that an ETF is definitely next in the cards. I don't know what can be done to stop them I guess we will just see how it all plays out.

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Yes, yes, an all American company and Bitcoin is owned by China.

Yet, early investors in Ripple were... You guessed it! Chinese companies!

The list of early investors in Ripple include ChinaRock Capital Management and China Growth Capital. Both invested in 2015.
There are other connections with Chinese companies if you care to look. For instance, one of the early investors is IDG Capital Partners, a company from San Francisco, but IDG was owned and controlled by a Chinese company China Oceanwide Holdings Group between 2017 and 2021.

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Has anyone peeked at this? The last link, the governmental resource seems to show XRP being owned by an Estonian entity.

https://trademarks.justia.com/859/35/xrp-85935696.html

https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=85935696&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch

The last several days I've seen a lot of crowing about XRP being "American."

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we know that all of these things are done by him to make xrp to be part of the american national reserve. whether by dirty means or clean means, i am sure that he will do diplomacy and lobby politicians to be able to side with xrp. but whatever he does, it will only have a negative impact on ripple's image directly, because everyone is smarter now and understands that bitcoin is decentralized and much better than ripple. so whatever he says to discredit bitcoin, it will only make him look like a clown.

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Quote from: NotATether on January 26, 2025, 02:10:57 PM

Oh we've buried them alive alright - BitcoinCleanup factoids continue to run on the forum to this day.

And that "skull of Satoshi" was their funeral on X/Twitter.

I meant that we should have been more vocal outside of our comfort zone. I don't know, even some articles in banking newspapers (because afaik that's their target); I don't know, something to make them less vocal.
This idea with the audit of the first bunch of blocks is something I like a lot. It proves neatly what big scammers they are.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 26, 2025, 02:06:55 PM

Ripple and XRP has received in the fast few days a good amount of hate.
As many have said, they deserve much more, but it's a good start (although they should have been "buried alive" when they've paid up the ecologists to harass bitcoin with false claims).

Oh we've buried them alive alright - BitcoinCleanup factoids continue to run on the forum to this day. (Edit: I think? Is it just me or does anyone else not see any factoids anymore?)

And that "skull of Satoshi" was their funeral on X/Twitter.

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Ripple and XRP has received in the fast few days a good amount of hate.
As many have said, they deserve much more, but it's a good start (although they should have been "buried alive" when they've paid up the ecologists to harass bitcoin with false claims).

Quote from: NotATether on January 26, 2025, 01:45:49 PM

So it's time we call them out for what they really are - jealous Bitcoin haters.

It's more than that. I'll try a list:
* scammers
* scam supporters, shills
* shitcoiners
* bank lovers
* intriguers, two-faced backstabbers

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Quote from: jumptheramp on January 26, 2025, 01:40:14 PM

I've found that the fastest way to shut down one of the seemingly infinite paid XRP shills is to ask them to audit the first 30,000 blocks for me and inform them that I'll wait for their response.

Spoiler: You can't do this, because genesis to block 30 something thousand doesn't exist. Because it's a pre-mined scam.

They've literally deleted blocks at the beginning of the chain which is completely the antithesis of cryptocurrency.

Does that remind you of something? Yes... Butcoin SV, except instead of delete blocks, they were trying to delete address ownership and basically redirect it to themselves.

It's founder (the disgraced CSW) is just as hated as Ripple Labs.

I would like to see how XRP shills spin that one.

You can't take on Bitcoin and expect to win

So it's time we call them out for what they really are - jealous Bitcoin haters.

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I've found that the fastest way to shut down one of the seemingly infinite paid XRP shills is to ask them to audit the first 30,000 blocks ("versions," Roll Eyes

) for me and inform them that I'll wait for their response.

Spoiler: You can't do this, because genesis to 30 something thousand doesn't exist. Because it's a pre-mined scam.

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Quote from: NotATether on January 24, 2025, 11:00:19 PM

So what do you think should be done to stop them now?

The US government is not that stupid to believe the comment of an individual. People can say anything but it is up to the government to do research to ascertain if what they are saying is correct. This is not the first time that some influential people are trying to sabotage Bitcoin. If the government knows that it will benefit from the Bitcoin reserve, it shouldn't listen to these haters.

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Quote from: Synchronice on January 25, 2025, 02:48:03 PM

can someone explain why Ripple gets hate?

It shouldn't even exist:

Quote from: mindrust on January 25, 2025, 02:11:45 AM

Ripple has always been the trojan horse in crypto. It is not even a crypto currency. It is just an excel sheet/centralized database. No mining on network, all premined… I don’t even understand why it is listed on crypto exchanges. Obviously it is not a crypto currency because of the reasons I mentioned. It is a token, an illegal security.

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Since I'm a little new in cryptocurrencies compare to many of you and OGs, can someone explain why Ripple gets hate? I understand why Bitcoin Cash gets hate but I have also noticed that Ripple and ETH gets hate (not classic).
If Trump's reason of not including Ripple was the fact that Ripple backed Kamala Harris, then it is a huge mistake and proves again that Trump is for his personal gains and interests, not for people (as people think). It means that Trump gives a warning message to other coin CEOs and companies that if they don't support Trump and make a mistake, they'll be punished.
To be honest, I think he was a better candidate than Kamala Harris but it doesn't make him Angel.

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I believe crypto enthusiast who has been in the business long enough understands that Bitcoin been sabotaged by any other currency is almost not possible, they may try but will not succeed so I believe there's necessarily no need of bothering so much about them, XRP been a project that wants to cross the bridge between traditional banking and tye crypto space will only try their best but the fact remains they are still not going to completely succeed as there's a whole lot of decentralisation around Bitcoin which they cannot face out completely giving them that disadvantage.

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Donald Trump has officially stated that the US will not create its own CBDC (central bank digital currencies).

However, in my opinion, this does not mean that Donald Trump and his friends have suddenly become cypherpunks and freedom supporters. It is just that the idea of creating a digital dollar has caused a lot of objections from many Americans.

However, this does not mean that the idea of building a digital concentration camp in the US has been completely rejected. The goal of Donald Trump and his friends is still a strong US dollar. Donald Trump also wants US government bonds (Treasury bonds) to be in high demand.

I ask myself - do Donald Trump and his friends want to promote decentralized cryptocurrency or centralized projects of American companies? In my opinion, they are more interested in the second option. I would be happy to be wrong.

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Centralized shitcoins is a waste of everyone's time. BTC is decentralized, with no third party in control to lobby on its behalf, but the U.S. and some other countries want to create a BTC strategic reserve, because of its utility that's there for everyone to see. However, the shit token owners are throwing millions around in a bid to sabbotage it, a clear reflection of their shit product.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on January 25, 2025, 09:23:19 AM

What does he hope to achieve?

According to Google, his net worth is $9 billion. His interests aren't in Bitcoin, his only interest will be to get richer.
The fact that Ripple has a CEO tells you everything you need to know. Bitcoin doesn't have a CEO. Anything decentralized can't have a CEO.

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It's crazy that somebody who is not only in crypto, but has a very popular altcoin is against Bitcoin in this way. What does he hope to achieve? Do they believe the world will abandon Bitcoin and follow XRP? I honestly do not understand their thought process because deep down they know bitcoin is superior.
It should be common knowledge by now that the more bitcoin grows the more altcoins grow too, so why don't they all rally behind bitcoin, even if not for the leave of bitcoin, but for the fact that it will favour them if bitcoin succeeds.
They should also know that the cryptocurrency industry will collapse if Bitcoin becomes non-existence because the trust people have in the market is somehow tied to bitcoin. So it makes no sense at all.

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Quote from: NotATether on January 24, 2025, 11:00:19 PM

Not going to lie, I have a special hatred of Ripple

Ripple, isn't that the centrally controlled shitcoin created to make the creators billionaires?

Quote from: mindrust on January 25, 2025, 02:11:45 AM

Ripple has always been the trojan horse in crypto. It is not even a crypto currency. It is just an excel sheet/centralized database.

That's what I thought. From at least the Top 4 on CoinMarketCap, Bitcoin is the only decentralized cryptocurrency. If you'd exclude anything that's not centrally controlled, Bitcoin's market dominance would above 80%.

I can only hope there will be some people who see through this, and realize anything that's centrally controlled is even worse than just going BRRR on the money printer.

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It seems Trump has some limited words when the discussion is about the crypto strategic reserve. He doesn't highlight Bitcoin at all or he knows something or some advisors tell him to don't highlight it that much.

Quote from: mindrust on January 25, 2025, 02:11:45 AM

Ripple has always been the trojan horse in crypto. It is not even a crypto currency. It is just an excel sheet/centralized database. No mining on network, all premined… I don’t even understand why it is listed on crypto exchanges. Obviously it is not a crypto currency because of the reasons I mentioned. It is a token, an illegal security.

And now they are trying to sabotage Bitcoin adoption. I am glad I’ve never touched that hot crap in my whole life.

It's hard to admit but it's already established and despite all of the years that it has been a laggard, their PR did well on it. I don't hold it and I dislike it as well.

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Ripple has always been the trojan horse in crypto. It is not even a crypto currency. It is just an excel sheet/centralized database. No mining on network, all premined… I don’t even understand why it is listed on crypto exchanges. Obviously it is not a crypto currency because of the reasons I mentioned. It is a token, an illegal security.

And now they are trying to sabotage Bitcoin adoption. I am glad I’ve never touched that hot crap in my whole life.

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Quote from: NotATether on January 24, 2025, 11:00:19 PM

https://x.com/ghost_prick/status/1882819147257553228
https://x.com/pete_rizzo_/status/1882846496565117373

This is who is trying to sabotage the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve.

How would they even sabotage the bitcoin reserve? At the end of the day it is up to Trump and to the rest of the elected politicians serving the country. What has XRP have anything to do with that? Nothing. They can do anything they want and still nothing will come out of it.

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So what do you think should be done to stop them now?

There is nothing stopping them. How reliable is this source even anyway?

XRP will not stop to think they are superior over anything else but what can be done is ignoring them and not buying or holding XRP. There is all that can be done.

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“The biggest obstacle for the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve is not the Fed, Treasury, banks, or even Elizabeth Warren. It’s Ripple/XRP.
They are aggressively lobbying against the SBR by throwing around millions of dollars at politicians, desperately trying to derail it.”

How is that working out for them? Pres. Trump just signed an executive order banning the creation of CBDCs in the United States,
plus another order to create a bitcoin stockpile that doesn't include XRP.

Cynthia Lummis author of the bill to create an SBR was also made head of the US Senate subcommittee on digital assets.
In other words the SBR is all but a done deal at this point. I would call that an epic fail for Ripple XRP.

In light of all that Ripple doesn't seem like much of a threat to bitcoin anymore do they? I guess they didn't throw around enough bribe money.
Good riddance to XRP and the entire shitcoin scam industry. They will die a slow painful death into irrelevance.

But perhaps Garlinghouse can stay relevant by defecting to China or North Korea to help the communists set up their wonderful CBDC big brother state surveillance network. Keep hope alive!

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Quote from: Poker Player on January 25, 2025, 12:06:56 AM

I don't think it's just Ripple, I think there are a lot of shitcoin owners who are going to try to exert their influence to get their shitcoin included in the reserve as well. It should not be forgotten that David Sacks himself was an early investor in Solana, for example.

In any case, it is logical that most of this reserve should be made up of bitcoin.

They have forgotten that bitcoin is highly better than them. They have influence on their centralized coins but Satoshi Nakamoto is an unknown person or organization and decided not to interact with the world anymore. Bitcoin do not have a known founder. Unlike the coins that these people created mostly for their personal profit and influence.

The right words should be that not most but all of this reserve should be made up of bitcoin.

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The thing that comes to my head is "are they worthy?"
The politicians wouldn't want the US to loss their Greatness
So I believe they won't settle for less.

Funny how despite everything Donald hasn't bought any of their coin.

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I don't think it's just Ripple, I think there are a lot of shitcoin owners who are going to try to exert their influence to get their shitcoin included in the reserve as well. It should not be forgotten that David Sacks himself was an early investor in Solana, for example.

In any case, it is logical that most of this reserve should be made up of bitcoin.

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Quote from: NotATether on January 24, 2025, 11:00:19 PM

This is who is trying to sabotage the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve.

Even if they try to sabotage, they may not succeed, because recently Exodus CEO says there is no XRP strategic reserve only for Bitcoin strategic reserve, which means that Americans only want Bitcoin Reserve.

I think XRP is CBDC but Bitcoin is freedom for everyone.

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Ripple has no place at the policy table in the Trump administration.

https://x.com/BitPaine/status/1882740240076738950?t=lzgtqLgHVAxsgeYmsN9orA&s=19

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Ripples greatest achievement and most notable pump was due to not getting destroyed by the SEC. Not very impressive if you ask me. Butthurt shitcoiners and their smear campaigning does not scare me, nor will it have any effect on the upcoming SBR.

ETFs were inevitable and so is SBR.

Quote from: NotATether on January 24, 2025, 11:00:19 PM

So what do you think should be done to stop them now?

Don't give them the attention they so desperately seek, by bringing them up. Grin

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https://x.com/ghost_prick/status/1882819147257553228
https://x.com/pete_rizzo_/status/1882846496565117373

This is who is trying to sabotage the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve.

Not going to lie, I have a special hatred of Ripple ever since they tried convince to people that Bitcoin should be banned because of energy emissions.

Seems like they haven't changed a bit.

And not only that, but they appear to have an army of Ripple zealots who want government-held XRP because their bags pumped 6x (only because Gensler was fired, and even then it is less than the total gains on BTC between 2020 and now. The arrogance of these guys man) and that's the only way their bags will pump more.

So what do you think should be done to stop them now?

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