Topic: Rock Paper Scissors (Boursy vs Me challenge, 3 BTC) (Read 1213 times)
3 btc fpr rock paper scissors.... You guys clearly have too much money. I hope the loser could afford the loss. So what will you do with the 3btc you just won ? Let me guess make even more ?
is this kind of game also available in notepad lets just say you upload a file rar file to be specific and you will encrypt the file with a password with your choose paper, rock or scissors and you will upload it to a trusted platform that you can't change the date you uploaded it just like here btctalk you will see a dot if post have been edited, alternatively then you will give the link when your opponent stated his pick and he then download the file and decrypt it by using the paper, rock or scissors he/she will know whether in an instant if he wins or not any idea?
I don't think there would be an easy way for the second person to verify and know the result without the first person actually telling him. If I post the password before hand, or if you know what it is, you can easily check and make sure you win. I think the method used by Ryan is probably the easiest yet effective and secure method there is (no need to unzip a file, easy to verify). With PvP not done on a website, you will have to sacrifice speed for it to work.
is this kind of game also available in notepad lets just say you upload a file rar file to be specific and you will encrypt the file with a password with your choose paper, rock or scissors and you will upload it to a trusted platform that you can't change the date you uploaded it just like here btctalk you will see a dot if post have been edited, alternatively then you will give the link when your opponent stated his pick and he then download the file and decrypt it by using the paper, rock or scissors he/she will know whether in an instant if he wins or not any idea?
@jackg - It would take more than 100 years probably to brute force Ryan's hash, even knowing that it either starts with paper, rock, or scissors. I personally think using encryption is the way to go in this case, and they also don't have to trust a third party. I suppose signing a message and giving a signature would work as well.
In response to using the sha256 hash, it would be easier in future for you to use gambit.com for that or to sign a message from the address the funds were sent to (makes it easier to explain to other users also). Brute forcing can actually work in some cases though would take a lot of effort to do.
Actually you can slowly double your money using that 3 btc. 3 btc is not small amount though and you can really use it to earn some coin out there rather than busted in one all in. Hope you wont try to recover some of your loss by bet 6 btc again on this kind of games
@rhavar congrats anyway to your big winning
He can try something like BW.com for an 8% yearly profit for emple.
And congratulations to ryan for winning this!
Hi
Indeed I lost. I had only 33% odds to loose but, what do you want... my luck...
Yes I am very sad and affected, that's why I stay away from computer. I don't want to come and complain!
I just wish, still, to thanks Ryan, I am sure if I won he would be glad to pay me. I even wonder if he would not be happier if I won than if he won ah ah ah. I am also 100% CERTAIN he did not cheat in any way.
And yes I was the one who asked the best way to either double up or loose the 3 BTC...
Also please note Ryan had no interest at all doing this, as there was no edge at all.
I will be offline for a few weeks time to keep cool, but don't worry, beside money, my life is very good.
Indeed I lost. I had only 33% odds to loose but, what do you want... my luck...
Yes I am very sad and affected, that's why I stay away from computer. I don't want to come and complain!
I just wish, still, to thanks Ryan, I am sure if I won he would be glad to pay me. I even wonder if he would not be happier if I won than if he won ah ah ah. I am also 100% CERTAIN he did not cheat in any way.
And yes I was the one who asked the best way to either double up or loose the 3 BTC...
Also please note Ryan had no interest at all doing this, as there was no edge at all.
I will be offline for a few weeks time to keep cool, but don't worry, beside money, my life is very good.
Actually you can slowly double your money using that 3 btc. 3 btc is not small amount though and you can really use it to earn some coin out there rather than busted in one all in. Hope you wont try to recover some of your loss by bet 6 btc again on this kind of games
@rhavar congrats anyway to your big winning
He can try something like BW.com for an 8% yearly profit for emple.
good to know you're oke @zirt
for ryan congrat win 3BTC is a large amount
for ryan congrat win 3BTC is a large amount
And congratulations to ryan for winning this!
Hi
Indeed I lost. I had only 33% odds to loose but, what do you want... my luck...
Yes I am very sad and affected, that's why I stay away from computer. I don't want to come and complain!
I just wish, still, to thanks Ryan, I am sure if I won he would be glad to pay me. I even wonder if he would not be happier if I won than if he won ah ah ah. I am also 100% CERTAIN he did not cheat in any way.
And yes I was the one who asked the best way to either double up or loose the 3 BTC...
Also please note Ryan had no interest at all doing this, as there was no edge at all.
I will be offline for a few weeks time to keep cool, but don't worry, beside money, my life is very good.
Indeed I lost. I had only 33% odds to loose but, what do you want... my luck...
Yes I am very sad and affected, that's why I stay away from computer. I don't want to come and complain!
I just wish, still, to thanks Ryan, I am sure if I won he would be glad to pay me. I even wonder if he would not be happier if I won than if he won ah ah ah. I am also 100% CERTAIN he did not cheat in any way.
And yes I was the one who asked the best way to either double up or loose the 3 BTC...
Also please note Ryan had no interest at all doing this, as there was no edge at all.
I will be offline for a few weeks time to keep cool, but don't worry, beside money, my life is very good.
Actually you can slowly double your money using that 3 btc. 3 btc is not small amount though and you can really use it to earn some coin out there rather than busted in one all in. Hope you wont try to recover some of your loss by bet 6 btc again on this kind of games
@rhavar congrats anyway to your big winning
Hi
Indeed I lost. I had only 33% odds to loose but, what do you want... my luck...
Yes I am very sad and affected, that's why I stay away from computer. I don't want to come and complain!
I just wish, still, to thanks Ryan, I am sure if I won he would be glad to pay me. I even wonder if he would not be happier if I won than if he won ah ah ah. I am also 100% CERTAIN he did not cheat in any way.
And yes I was the one who asked the best way to either double up or loose the 3 BTC...
Also please note Ryan had no interest at all doing this, as there was no edge at all.
I will be offline for a few weeks time to keep cool, but don't worry, beside money, my life is very good.
Indeed I lost. I had only 33% odds to loose but, what do you want... my luck...
Yes I am very sad and affected, that's why I stay away from computer. I don't want to come and complain!
I just wish, still, to thanks Ryan, I am sure if I won he would be glad to pay me. I even wonder if he would not be happier if I won than if he won ah ah ah. I am also 100% CERTAIN he did not cheat in any way.
And yes I was the one who asked the best way to either double up or loose the 3 BTC...
Also please note Ryan had no interest at all doing this, as there was no edge at all.
I will be offline for a few weeks time to keep cool, but don't worry, beside money, my life is very good.
Will do this challenge again soon when you got enough money to fight back Ryan? It might not sound entertaining for all members here, but some are.
good to know you're oke @zirt
for ryan congrat win 3BTC is a large amount
for ryan congrat win 3BTC is a large amount
Hi
Indeed I lost. I had only 33% odds to loose but, what do you want... my luck...
Yes I am very sad and affected, that's why I stay away from computer. I don't want to come and complain!
I just wish, still, to thanks Ryan, I am sure if I won he would be glad to pay me. I even wonder if he would not be happier if I won than if he won ah ah ah. I am also 100% CERTAIN he did not cheat in any way.
And yes I was the one who asked the best way to either double up or loose the 3 BTC...
Also please note Ryan had no interest at all doing this, as there was no edge at all.
I will be offline for a few weeks time to keep cool, but don't worry, beside money, my life is very good.
Indeed I lost. I had only 33% odds to loose but, what do you want... my luck...
Yes I am very sad and affected, that's why I stay away from computer. I don't want to come and complain!
I just wish, still, to thanks Ryan, I am sure if I won he would be glad to pay me. I even wonder if he would not be happier if I won than if he won ah ah ah. I am also 100% CERTAIN he did not cheat in any way.
And yes I was the one who asked the best way to either double up or loose the 3 BTC...
Also please note Ryan had no interest at all doing this, as there was no edge at all.
I will be offline for a few weeks time to keep cool, but don't worry, beside money, my life is very good.
Nice to see some classic pvp gambling here and the challenge only lasted for about a few minutes. Sick win by Ryan
i think he wont be playing rock papir scissors after this loss
giant loss for the guy,feeling sad for him,but someone had to lose
congrats to the winner
giant loss for the guy,feeling sad for him,but someone had to lose
congrats to the winner
Could someone explain to me how the hash provided
leads to the outcome
in a way that proves that Ryan pre-selected it and can't change it yet Boursy doesn't know it and can't figure it out? I'm not saying that it doesn't, I'd just like to learn more about the backend technology. Thanks!
Quote
97bc27bafe82e26f3457d90b61202bdddd5fba3a28db91ac0f7f1963612300d7
leads to the outcome
Quote
scissors|f75916d142d536313f7d4206cfacfa99dd4a28420ea5e25c7e4517b2d189da8b
in a way that proves that Ryan pre-selected it and can't change it yet Boursy doesn't know it and can't figure it out? I'm not saying that it doesn't, I'd just like to learn more about the backend technology. Thanks!
To expand on what DarkStar_ said, we need to first make two (very safe) assumptions:
a) sha256 can not be reversed (you can hash things, but you can't unhash them)
b) there's no way to find two things that hash into the same outcome
So what I can do, is pick a result and hash it:
382635c9325bf3273d195ff1b8a44e5b11afd7d97addeb8863ea35feb98c1a07
but this is extremely insecure, because it can be "brute forced". (You can try that yourself, just check all possible outcomes and you'll see what it is). So to prevent it being brute forced, I add some random digits after my result, that makes it impossible to brute force. Now due to assumption a) I know that my opponent can't unhash it and cheat. And due to assumption b) my opponent knows I can't change my pick
Could someone explain to me how the hash provided
leads to the outcome
in a way that proves that Ryan pre-selected it and can't change it yet Boursy doesn't know it and can't figure it out? I'm not saying that it doesn't, I'd just like to learn more about the backend technology. Thanks!
Run sha256(scissors|f75916d142d536313f7d4206cfacfa99dd4a28420ea5e25c7e4517b2d189da8b), or find a sha256 converter online, paste the text and see if the hash matches. You will get the same hash that he originally posted. Anyway, I can't explain how it works (Google might help). Bitcoin runs on the same technology.Quote
97bc27bafe82e26f3457d90b61202bdddd5fba3a28db91ac0f7f1963612300d7
leads to the outcome
Quote
scissors|f75916d142d536313f7d4206cfacfa99dd4a28420ea5e25c7e4517b2d189da8b
in a way that proves that Ryan pre-selected it and can't change it yet Boursy doesn't know it and can't figure it out? I'm not saying that it doesn't, I'd just like to learn more about the backend technology. Thanks!
Holy shit you guys mustve been bored to come up with this gamble. Nice win ryan
Actually he just wanted a way to double his bitcoins with the lowest house edge possible. I first told him he could use one of the betting sequences developed by Dooglus or Blockage ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/challenge-whats-the-best-way-to-win-1-btc-with-1-btc-939776 ) which would allow him to change a 1% house edge to ~0.7% for this purpose ... but as it's pretty complex I thought I'd give him the chance to do it for 0 house edge with a friendly game of rock paper scissors.
Anyway, congrats on your win.
Could someone explain to me how the hash provided
leads to the outcome
in a way that proves that Ryan pre-selected it and can't change it yet Boursy doesn't know it and can't figure it out? I'm not saying that it doesn't, I'd just like to learn more about the backend technology. Thanks!
Quote
97bc27bafe82e26f3457d90b61202bdddd5fba3a28db91ac0f7f1963612300d7
leads to the outcome
Quote
scissors|f75916d142d536313f7d4206cfacfa99dd4a28420ea5e25c7e4517b2d189da8b
in a way that proves that Ryan pre-selected it and can't change it yet Boursy doesn't know it and can't figure it out? I'm not saying that it doesn't, I'd just like to learn more about the backend technology. Thanks!
Ryan is a R(RYAN)H(HAVAR)APER.
HE WON THOUGH
NICE RYAN
POOR BOURSY ;(
Wow, how lucky you are. Just like that you won 3btc. No sweat at all. Good game. Wish i have the amount too so i can compete with you guys. Im just saving my few sats for now.HE WON THOUGH
NICE RYAN
POOR BOURSY ;(
To all bettors who just loss. Sorry bout that. Better luck next time.
Holy shit you guys mustve been bored to come up with this gamble. Nice win ryan
Actually he just wanted a way to double his bitcoins with the lowest house edge possible. I first told him he could use one of the betting sequences developed by Dooglus or Blockage ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/challenge-whats-the-best-way-to-win-1-btc-with-1-btc-939776 ) which would allow him to change a 1% house edge to ~0.7% for this purpose ... but as it's pretty complex I thought I'd give him the chance to do it for 0 house edge with a friendly game of rock paper scissors.
(But since then, boursy hasn't said anything -- and I'm feeling a little guilty about winning)
wow 3btc is only to RPC games its very huge amount
very nice win rhavar congrats for you
very nice win rhavar congrats for you
Holy shit you guys mustve been bored to come up with this gamble. Nice win ryan
Ryan is a R(RYAN)H(HAVAR)APER.
HE WON THOUGH
NICE RYAN
POOR BOURSY ;(
HE WON THOUGH
NICE RYAN
POOR BOURSY ;(
Hi,
Challenge accepted.
I deposited the 3 BTC
So my choice is : PAPER
Note : if I win please hold the money for me for a few days, thanks.
Challenge accepted.
I deposited the 3 BTC
So my choice is : PAPER
Note : if I win please hold the money for me for a few days, thanks.
Shit, I got bad news for you
The outcome was scissors:Proof:
scissors|f75916d142d536313f7d4206cfacfa99dd4a28420ea5e25c7e4517b2d189da8b
Hi,
Challenge accepted.
I deposited the 3 BTC
So my choice is : PAPER
Note : if I win please hold the money for me for a few days, thanks.
Challenge accepted.
I deposited the 3 BTC
So my choice is : PAPER
Note : if I win please hold the money for me for a few days, thanks.
(oh just two clarifications, making an another post to avoid editing the OP. The hash was generated with sha256, and boursy's bitcointalk username is zirt )
Boursy wants to challenge me to a game of Rock Paper Scissors for 3 BTC, to have a 0 house edge way of doubling his money. To show I'm not cheating, I have hashed my move:
Which will be of the form:
rock|randomblindinggarbage
paper|blasdfasdfasdf
scissors|adfasdff
If I can not produce the outcome that lead to the above hash, I will automatically lose.
Rock beats Scissors
Paper beats Rocks
Scissors beats Paper
and if we pick the same, it's a draw. To accept the challenge boursy will need to send 3 BTC to: 1BWQcfmCrfHTDfgQvMiajceYbMWKx8kP3w and then post his outcome here. I will reveal what my original pick was, and pay boursy 6 BTC if I lose. Return his 3 BTC if we tie. And keep his money if he loses
Code:
97bc27bafe82e26f3457d90b61202bdddd5fba3a28db91ac0f7f1963612300d7
Which will be of the form:
rock|randomblindinggarbage
paper|blasdfasdfasdf
scissors|adfasdff
If I can not produce the outcome that lead to the above hash, I will automatically lose.
Rock beats Scissors
Paper beats Rocks
Scissors beats Paper
and if we pick the same, it's a draw. To accept the challenge boursy will need to send 3 BTC to: 1BWQcfmCrfHTDfgQvMiajceYbMWKx8kP3w and then post his outcome here. I will reveal what my original pick was, and pay boursy 6 BTC if I lose. Return his 3 BTC if we tie. And keep his money if he loses
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