@RogerVer can little guys get in on this deal too

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Quote from: Pursuer on July 26, 2017, 02:49:43 AM

Quote from: Iranus on July 26, 2017, 02:37:24 AM

All these bets are really dumb.

this is not a bet, it is a trade.

It's both. You're betting that your BTC will be worth more than the BCC in the future by doing a 1:1 trade, even though they are currently not worth the same.

Quote from: Pursuer on July 26, 2017, 02:49:43 AM

Quote from: Iranus on July 26, 2017, 02:37:24 AM

It's not like Roger Ver is going to trade absolutely gigantic amounts of BTC for several times less BCC tokens than he could buy at the market price.

stop thinking in fiat terms

I'm not. When the BCC fork happens you will be able to trade it against BTC, and just like how it's worth much less than 1 BTC now, it will be worth less than 1 BTC then. I didn't mention fiat.

Quote from: Pursuer on July 26, 2017, 02:49:43 AM

try reading the last line I've added to OP.

Of course the current price doesn't matter to you, because you're getting BTC for several times less than it's worth. You could literally buy loads of BCC on an exchange and then sell it to Roger Ver for four times as much if he took this trade/bet. It's just dumb.

Quote from: Pursuer on July 26, 2017, 02:49:43 AM

1 unit of bitcoin is 1 unit of bitcoin the same as they say 1 Doge = 1 Doge.

But you are not trading one unit of BTC for one unit of BTC. BCC is created at a 1:1 ratio to BTC using the same blockchain, but it has different features and it was created several years later. They are not the same thing.

Quote from: Pursuer on July 26, 2017, 02:49:43 AM

also trading (swapping) two tokens will take place 100% decentralized and off the exchange and away from government knowledge.
trading (buying) tokens requires you to go on an exchange deposit fiat and answer to the government later on.

I agree with this part, but the decentralised exchanges being developed still move with the market naturally. They don't put arbitrary prices on things and then pretend that it's a normal trade.

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Why would he accept this offer though? lol. It makes zero sense. Whether he believes in BCC or not, if he accepts it's just pretty much like him giving out good amounts to OP.

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Dear OP, would you consider all us little fish pooling in to present a small pondfish? Like you and Loaded, we all want to put the money where our mouths are and won't mind a chance to double up on BTC with every split.

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Quote from: Iranus on July 26, 2017, 02:37:24 AM

All these bets are really dumb.

this is not a bet, it is a trade.

Quote from: Iranus on July 26, 2017, 02:37:24 AM

It's not like Roger Ver is going to trade absolutely gigantic amounts of BTC for several times less BCC tokens than he could buy at the market price.

stop thinking in fiat terms and you'll realize what I am talking about. also try reading the last line I've added to OP.
1 unit of bitcoin is 1 unit of bitcoin the same as they say 1 Doge = 1 Doge.

also trading (swapping) two tokens will take place 100% decentralized and off the exchange and away from government knowledge.
trading (buying) tokens requires you to go on an exchange deposit fiat and answer to the government later on.

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Quote from: Iranus on July 26, 2017, 02:37:24 AM

It's not like Roger Ver is going to trade absolutely gigantic amounts of BTC for several times less BCC tokens than he could buy at the market price.

Just because Ver believes that BCC would become relevant in the future, doesn't mean that he thinks he can never get it for less than 1 BTC.

Basically that. I highly doubt that he is ever going to trade 1BTC for 3BCC, unless it will be financially speaking rewarding enough for him, but then people would do it themselves. BCC will be nothing more than an altcoin that at first will gain much attention, but will get dumped down due to people cashing out their free coins. After all the initial dumping BCC may get pumped, but after a month or two, perhaps three, the market will sink to the bottom like a large piece of rock - especially when Bitcoin starts rushing up again.

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I d take this deal anytime. Roger pls do let me know if you d like more coins, I m sure we can find you 1000 000 of your bellowed BCC to be exchanged for BTC which you currently own, 1:1.

I d take BTC over BCC anytime, today, tomorrow, in 5 years.

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All these bets are really dumb.

It's not like Roger Ver is going to trade absolutely gigantic amounts of BTC for several times less BCC tokens than he could buy at the market price.

Just because Ver believes that BCC would become relevant in the future, doesn't mean that he thinks he can never get it for less than 1 BTC.

We'd all rather he didn't have that much BCC because he would push the market price way up and he would be able to manipulate it incessantly.

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I would to make a deal too. I am by no means a whale nor a little fish and I would love to trade the coin that I believe in (BTC) for the coin that you believe in (BCC) with a 1 for 1 (1:1) trade. (my BCC for your BTC)

I see the whale offers and I want in on it Grin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rogerver-lets-make-a-deal-at-least-60k-my-btu-for-your-btc-1836672
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60ozkh/rogerver_lets_make_a_deal_1_for_1_trade_at_least/

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6pkhdo/roger_ver_i_would_like_to_trade_you_my_2000/

I am not yet sure about all the details of this process but with a trusted escrow and a 2 of 3 multisig I am down. I am sure there are a lot of little fishes like me who would love this deal also.

p.s. I will lock any amount I have, will get, will buy, will earn for at least 5 years so the current prices doesn't matter to me at all.

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