Topic: rollbit.com scam (Read 410 times)

Having to pay a fee in order to make a scam accusation is probably not the right way forward but I agree with you when you say something needs to be done. In the end, if we disagree with a particular scam accusation there is nothing stopping us from using the ignore button and though very basic it might be the best way to take action. If they buy accounts to continue the charade there is not much can be done I suppose.

Adding financial costs to make scam allegations could empower groups and gangs that are financially capable of fulfilling payments in order to target a particular casino by virtue of them being competitors. I would probably be against this type of step but maybe forum consensus would point in other direction if votes were cast.

It's very old. There should be consequences for false accusations. Maybe we need some sort of fee to post a scam accusation? That may deter some, but wouldn't completely stop the morons. We could also ignore newbies but then they'd just find a cheap account for sale or some legit complaints would get overlooked. We need something though.

I have seen this type of complaint in the forum several times over the years and most recently it was used against Duelbits. It transpired in that case the OP hid important facts but later admitted trying to scam Duelbits for which he was rightfully never paid.

On many occasions accusations against genuine casinos and gaming websites are made with the specific intent and hope of having forum members jump onboard to keep pushing the scam agenda until or unless they are countered and proved false by the accused. It is getting somewhat tiresome watching these dramas unfold from time to time.

OP should lock this thread and don't push on his accusations because the community will not condone this kind of behavior so far your account is clean but if you insist and do not correct your mistake then you're likely to get tagged for your action, you cheat the casino then you file an accusation, then you want to get your deposit, its good that you are caught, even if you don't like it, you have no choice but to admit that Rollbit did not scam you.

So it's okay to do the same thing on other not good casino websites then? Doesn't make sense at all.

You should say not to do unnecessary and scamming behaviour  to any platform if you don't want to risk your deposited funds there since OP is trying to request to give the funds back which is supposedly used to cheat the casino.

Creating multiple account probably to abuse the referral system and the bonuses, this is the result of being greedy and you came to the wrong site because Rollbit is very strict with that, and with this baseless accusation, I don't think you can still get your money back. A lesson learned not to mess with the good site because they are very secured and they can really track your activities especially if its out in a blockchain network. I don't think Rollbit will have a word here, because this is not a valid accusation and OP might want to close this thread because it turns out that, this is his own fault.

Exactly, the scammer doesn’t have the rights to get his money back since it was used to potentially harm the casino in case he succeeded. There’s no guarantee that he will not repeat what he done on Rollbit to different casino. The user only has the right to received his money if he didn’t commit any violation against the casino terms but since he planned to commit crime then it’s only normal that this bas money get confiscated.

I don't support that you get your deposit it will set a bad precedent, people will try to do what you have done, and try to hostage the casino into giving in, its different if you try to cheat or made an honest mistake, your earnings and deposit are forfeited it's your payment for trying to cheat Rollbit, the other accusation was fixed, in the complainant's favor, but in your case, you don't deserve to get your money.

I don't see why you should be believed. I am not an expert on this platform, but there is certainly an advantage in managing multiple accounts.

in the end you do not create a series of multi accounts "just because you like it and you make a mistake" but just because you can have a clear advantage (in terms of bonuses or other options offered by the casino).

Among other things, even here as in other platforms it will be a practice explicitly prohibited by their ToS!

Let me get this straight.

You tried to cheat the system and you failed. You then accused the casino of scamming you and stealing your money. After it was proven that you lied and tried to cheat, you say you didn't make any profit (while trying to cheat), so now you want your deposits back. Deposits which could be used to try and cheat again on this or a different platform.

It's like trying to rob a bank but failing to do so and getting yourself arrested instead. But because the bank wasn't robbed and no one got injured, you want the police to set you free and return your fully automatic assault rifle because no profit was gained from your actions.

Now you seemed acting like a good man then why you had other thinking in mind. Just to take an opportunity? You tried to cheat a casino, then you complained in the forum knowing some users (I am one of them unfortunately, guilty) will say that you should get back your deposit. It's a win win game for you. To be honest I would not say anything else if rollbit decides to take your money. People like you should learn some lessons.

See people like you abuse opportunities and make things difficult for genuine users. Next time may be we will have a genuine victim but because of group of people like you we will not trust their accusation.

you are right, creating a multi-account does not bring any profit, I would like to just return my deposit, I did not receive any profit at this casino

the most "fascinating" part of the blockchain is that you cannot cheat the data, you cannot falsify what happened in the past.
In this case OP has openly shown "a false declaration" in this version of scam accusation hoping that no one would notice ...
probably this "trick" had also been done with other "linked" accounts.... what is the real advantage of that strategy? there are some bonus that you can claim from the same account? I am not able to see any plausible reason to create multi account ...

however it would also be interesting to know the Rollbit version and understand why they decided to block the initial deposit.

These guys deliberately hide details when making accusations. Their goal is to present as story that makes them look like they have been defrauded and get community support that pressures casinos to pay them. When the casino or users find holes in their story or present proof to the contrary, they stop responding.

It's quite pathetic honestly and I doubt that it is ever going to work.

OP when making a scam accusation, you might want to come off clean and tell the whole story rather than hide some details. Now, how are we supposed to believe you and advise you accordingly when Blockchain evidence is telling a different story.
I am now more than certain you know what you did. Perhaps breached their terms of service.

I agree. I am not trying to represent the casino in this case, nor do I claim to know the reasons for his account getting banned, as I can only speculate on that. I just wanted to point out that the OP is not being honest with the whole story and clearly has something to hide. If I could see these transactions, so could the casino staff, presumably, much more quickly and easily.


As far as I know, they have two accounts here: Rollbitcom and Rollbit Razer. Although not overly active, but Rollbit Razer has responded to similar situations in the past. @Hhampuz might give them a nudge if he thinks this is something worth their attention.

May I know what you have done, quoting and not answering? Sometimes people get messed up with quotes and leave the comment inside the quote, but I don't see that you have answered anything to defend yourself.

Although it seems clear that you are just another case of someone who wants to appear as an innocent victim when in reality you have little innocence.

How come you copy/paste all the chat log details while you don’t save any screenshot of it as proof that it was really occurred? A written conversation is not accepted evidence here and also the content of the Rollbit representative reply is vague af. There’s no way a representative can conclude that you are fraud right after they verify your KYC. They have a liability to send the balance to the customer especially you didn’t made any successful bet in the casino. This story is shady to me without the proof except this chat logs text.

Whaoo!!! What a nice break down from research. You really know them in the forum. From what you analysis here that I see. I am very much impressed, satisfied and okay. You are an experience person in the forum. When I meet people like you I respect them. Now that you have given him the break of the transactions he did, he will finally deny it that it was not him, someone used his account to place bet and the person deposited funds to his address and funded back the rollbit address. These are stories of the sky.

I also support BitcoinGirl.Club opinion. But we have to hear from their part of the story before judgement will be given. We advise them always, when you are gambling, read the terms and conditions before playing any game so you will not be a victim of any issue but their want play smart game because it is a gamble and you want over gamble. I even saw on accusation on Roobet.com. And these are reputable casino threads and sites.

Spot on. This should be the end.
But my question is since rollbit knew it from the beginning (from the response with OP it was giving a hint) then they should have stop him and refund his deposits. I would still like to hear from rollbit and ask them to refund OPs deposit and close the case.

Does rollbit has a representative here is the forum?

Well, it looks like the blockchain doesn't agree with you.

According to your transaction, this is your ETH address: 0x6d43df23405323f7f70d598bb25f20762fd78a4f
And this is the address where all deposits go, so it must be a Rollbit hot wallet: 0xCBD6832Ebc203e49E2B771897067fce3c58575ac / Let's call it [rollbit] from now on.

Two days ago you funded your address with this transaction:

(Aug-31-2022 08:00:41 PM +UTC) 0.19117023 Ether from: 0xEFa0c97AbEc7cCa7038B047225f74ABe3f0da866 ---> 0x6d43df23405323f7f70d598bb25f20762fd78a4f [tx]

And just a few minutes before that:

(Aug-31-2022 07:57:36 PM +UTC) 0.191727 Ether from: [rollbit] ---> 0xEFa0c97AbEc7cCa7038B047225f74ABe3f0da866 [tx]

(Aug-31-2022 07:49:34 PM +UTC) 0.11958228 Ether from: 0xEFa0c97AbEc7cCa7038B047225f74ABe3f0da866 ---> 0x1591655c39bD982426168dfcef81b0E30242B40D [tx] ---> [rollbit]
(Aug-30-2022 06:57:54 PM +UTC) 0.13105942 Ether from: 0xEFa0c97AbEc7cCa7038B047225f74ABe3f0da866 ---> 0x1591655c39bD982426168dfcef81b0E30242B40D [tx] ---> [rollbit]

As you can see, your story does not hold up. The blockchain clearly shows that you deposited to Rollbit from one address, gambled a bit, withdrew funds, transferred to a new address, and then deposited to Rollbit again. And this is just a short sample of transactions from the last few days.

I guess now is the time for the: "It wasn't me, it was my brother / sister / father / mother / cousin / roommate / lover / neighbor / mentor ... (pick one)" story.

I am quite sure, other casinos will do the same as what Rollbit did because of your account activity. Created an account-deposited 330$-bet $10 only-tried to withdraw remaining balance. If you are an experienced gambler, I do not think you will do it although you cant bet on what you want because of a reason. At least, you should have wagered more in other events or maybe in other casino games so your account activity is not considered as suspicious.

Lesson learned for you, do not do the same thing again in other casinos. Every casino has their own terms, if you are proven to break one of their terms, you should accept the consequences. No other thing I can suggest except: try to contact rollbit's bitcointalk forum by private message and hope there will be a way to solve it.

the only account.
no, it was the first deposit and the first withdrawal attempt

Quoted.
The way you were treated it seemed they were already knowing that something was wrong with your account. There is no point to ask you the truth, you will deny of course but you had other accounts with them. Or a gambling site is not going to give that many restrictions to you. They were suppose to give you freedom to bet with any amount of money.

I would like to hear rollbit team about the case.

But that wasn't your only account with them, right?
Did you have other deposits/withdrawals on the platform before the transaction you showed?

I would wager a 100% deposit if they asked but they just deleted the account...

Yes high likely, another your problem are using VPN which is against their Terms. Your IP address may likely same with the other fraudster on Rollbit, so they're accusing you're the same fraudster that they know before.

Why you're not bet on the other match then? Deposit for $330 and only bet $10 with the lowest odds is clearly you're want to use Rollbit for laundering your money. If you're gamble around 50% of your money, I don't think you will face this problem.

I think this is wrong to accuse Rollbit is a scammer, since they're only follow about their terms.

this is my new account, i used vpn
it seems to me they thought that I was laundering money, because I made a deposit of $330 and bet only 10 at 1.01, after which there was a withdrawal, but I already explained why I did it (the maximum bet on the top match was $1.5)

Considering the amount involved, it is hard to believe a casino with their reputation would decide to scam you. I can only guess, but it is likely that they noticed something fundamentally wrong with your account.

Are you new to this platform or do you have multiple accounts?
Did you use a VPN to access the site from a restricted country?
Have you taken advantage of any bonuses or promotions?
Have you made any previous deposits and/or withdrawals?

https://etherscan.io/tx/0xb79148c1b9e42877ac086bfff0287ef1f800f8ef3b13db8da0c052718d42274c - payment proof
https://rollbit.com/ casino link
I can't take screenshots of my profile because they removed it. my login basedin2

I find it hard to believe that rollbit is going to scam you for $330. In any case it is better to upload screenshots, and I think there is a template for these cases, but I can't find it. I copy and paste from another case removing the data:

What happened::

Scammers Profile Link:

Reference Link:

Amount Scammed:

Proof of Payment:

PM/Chat Logs:

Additional Notes:.

We will have to see their version as well.

 I made a deposit through Ethereum in the amount of $ 330, I wanted to bet on volleyball, but the odds changed and the bet was not accepted, after that, after a while, I wanted to bet $ 130 on Newcastle, but they wrote that the maximum bet was $ 1.5 , after that I decided to withdraw the money, put down a minimum wager of $10 on the roulette table and put it on the withdrawal, after that I was asked to confirm my identity, I confirmed it. after that they just told me that you are a scammer and we will confiscate the funds, they threw off the "bye bye" gif and stopped responding, after which they deleted the account. All this is due to the fact that I did not make a wager, but how can I do this if the maximum bet is 1 dollar with a deposit of 330? I don't play casino, only sports betting. they thought i was laundering money lol

09:30 PM | [email protected]: can you rejected my withdrawal?

09:31 PM | JR5 from Rollbit: Hi there, is it pending?

09:31 PM | [email protected]: +

09:36 PM | JR5 from Rollbit: It looks like your withdrawal requires manual review. I've escalated this to my colleague to check this for you.
 
 There's no exact ETA on this one. Depending on my colleague's workload this could take a few minutes or up to hours.

There will be no actions required on your part, this will be sent out to the wallet once the review is completed. Expect a reply shortly!

09:51 PM | [email protected]: 1 hours max?

09:51 PM | JR5 from Rollbit: "There's no exact ETA on this one. Depending on my colleague's workload this could take a few minutes or up to hours."

09:56 PM | [email protected]: For any support, inquiries or questions, please contact us via live-chat or email.
Please be as specific as possible.

10:00 PM | [email protected]: can you just withdraw and closed my account?

10:00 PM | JR5 from Rollbit: We will update you accordingly here! Please allow for some more time on this one!

10:03 PM | JR5 from Rollbit: Hi there, we would have to have you fill out a KYC form here. This can be done via the settings tab on site. Once that is finished please let us know.

10:07 PM | [email protected]: Status: Approved

10:11 PM | [email protected]: ?

10:11 PM | JR5 from Rollbit: Thank you for that, we will update you accordingly here.

10:19 PM | [email protected]: can you withdraw?

10:19 PM | Razer from Rollbit: We don't accept fraud here unfortunately, funds are forfeited

10:19 PM | [email protected]: ?

10:21 PM | [email protected]: why do you think so?

10:22 PM | [email protected]: I made a deposit to place bets, but my maximum bet is 1 dollar now

10:22 PM | Razer from Rollbit: [GIF]

10:23 PM | [email protected]: you okey?