Topic: Russia-China Alliance Could Launch New World Order (Read 600 times)

You do not know, what you are talking about. Please, study more. Also we do not talk about "friends" here, but allies with mutual interests.

Russia seems to have got tired of getting the cold shoulder from India. Earlier, Russian weapons used to account for as much as 90% of all the defense equipment imported by India. Now India imports more American weapons, when compared to the Russian ones. During the UPA rule (2004-2014), the government showed a bias towards the United States and NATO, while ignoring the Russians. The corrupt deal on Rafale aircraft really angered the Russians. So naturally, the Russians are trying to normalize their strained ties with Pakistan.

China is completely different country from Russia. For a long time China do not have any friends, because this is very large country. Russia is a much smaller country, like Poland 

North Korea isnt part of Russia-Chinese-India axis   those countries are not perfect, but neither they are totalitarian, absolutist monarchies. N. Korea is these days merely used as buffer zone by China or really the same way south is used by United States.

So far, Euroasian alliance slowly expanded via peaceful means, development plans and trade agreements. Fallout with NATO happened over those countries, that were being in process of destabilization by the west and were strategically important (Syria during Arab spring - planned to be bombed, Ukraine during Maidan).

The first country to be affected by this will be India. As if Russia is now strengthening its ties with China, it will try to do the same with other countries including Pakistan, which will bring India into awkward position.

China, Russia and USA are the most powerfull countries in the world, and because of their conflict they naturally have to choose sides. That's why you have Russia and China (similiar to the former Warsaw pact), and USA and NATO on the other side.

A combined Russian - Chinese - DPRK expansion to counter the NATO expansion? This will trigger the Cold War 2.0, if it hasn't begun yet. It will be interesting to see how the NATO will react to this new challenge. They can either adopt the confrontational approach, by backing the Philippines, Japan and Vietnam against China and Ukraine and Poland against Russia, or they can adopt a milder approach, by using their economic power to avoid the conflict.   

Given their historical relationship between hot and cold for decades and the calming down of the extremes of Mao and Stalin, its a likely possibility that they will become even more integrated allies in the future besides the 30 year natural gas pipeline with Gazprom that was signed last year.
They will likely start sharing more military technology, backing each countries expansion plans and being forceful on the international stage to have their presence heard.

(For China in the South China Sea with its Island Building Campaign)
(Russia meanwhile has its Ukraine expansion)
(US has the Middle East and we know how that's been going lets drain Al-Qaeda out of power and say hello to ISIS who even Al-Qaeda call extreme, on the other front, they are trying to draw defined borders on China and Russia by using Submarines and Airplanes for South China and with supporting arms and weapons in the Ukraine one could argue they are over expanding themselves)

Of course China wants Blue-Power Naval capability and needs a key strait secured, while Russia wants oil and to build a stronger Euro buffer after downsizing and rebuilding the country again under Putin.
Mutual interests are involved in a combined zone to expand and to confront the economic strength of the Eurozone so I can see those two countries meshing together in the future possibly even in shared manufacturing.

(The tech is being stolen and hacked into and some is given by US Corporations to the Chinese to save costs I can see Russia trading China for stuff they need even with a US and Euro boycott, the US just does not want to admit they don't have good enough hackers to keep some new tech secret and they do call out China each time they get hacked but can't do much about it, but those Snowden leaks prove that its not just a one way road but we all knew that anyways)

The Chinese are one of the world's largest consumers of natural resources (esp. petroleum products, coal, natural gas, timber, copper, nickel, phosphate, iron ore, gold, and aluminium). And Russia is probably the world's largest supplier of the same. A partnership between the two countries can effectively dislodge the American monopoly in the world economy.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article.php?id=523711


Amid the fanfare and fireworks of Russia's Victory Day celebrations in May, President Vladimir Putin held a prolific round of talks with his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping, signing 32 deals aimed at further shoring up ties between two superpowers unimpressed with Western dominance in the international community.

Key among these agreements was the decision by Putin and Xi to link their countries' key integration projects: the Russian-led Eurasian Economic Union and China's Silk Road Economic Belt. "Essentially, we seek ultimately to reach a new level of partnership that will create a common economic space across the entire Eurasian continent," Putin said of the agreement after the talks.

So long as this deal proves capable of materializing beyond diplomatic rhetoric, it will have long-lasting consequences for international relations at large, analysts interviewed by The Moscow Times said. Furthermore, by agreeing to deal directly with the Eurasian Economic Union, China has moved to dispel speculation that Putin is interested only in restoring Russia's former Soviet glory, experts said. Finally, the deal reveals a lack of desire on behalf of both countries to create a Cold War-like atmosphere, wherein Moscow and Beijing would find themselves competing against one another for influence in Central Asia.

Both countries come into the deal with plenty to offer the other. China has an enormous construction industry and manpower to match. In view of a decrease in the number of large-scale projects at home, these resources could be used to help build up transportation links and infrastructure throughout Eurasia.

In turn, Russia brings to the table diplomatic experience and security expertise specific to Central Asia.

"The logic of the Russia-China relationship has changed. A strategic partnership between the two has become a reality. Other states will have to learn how to deal with this new reality," said Alexander Gabuyev, chairman of the Russia in the Asia-Pacific Program at the respected Carnegie Moscow Center think tank.
Expert-Endorsed Move

Members of the Valdai International Discussion Club, who meet with Putin annually and enjoy direct access to the presidential administration, published a report in late April actively lobbying for Russia and China to forge closer ties.

According to one of its authors, Alexander Lukin, the report was received favorably by the Kremlin. "The fact that our leadership has agreed with experts is very positive. Both Russia and China are bound to obtain significant benefits from pooling their resources together," said Lukin, director of the Moscow State Institute of International Relations' Center for East Asian and Shanghai Cooperation Organization Studies.

Lukin added that Russia's First Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov has used ideas from the report in his speeches, and has been a leading proponent of the deal.

Dmitry Trenin, head of the Carnegie Moscow Center, authored his own report on the subject in May, arguing that while the old idea of a "greater Europe" spanning from Lisbon to Vladivostok has been abandoned, a new vision of a "greater Asia" from St. Petersburg to Shanghai has emerged as a more likely scenario for the region's future development.

"The epoch of post-Communist Russia's integration with the West is over," Trenin wrote in his report.

"All things considered, China turned out to be the biggest beneficiary of Russia's conflict with the West," he wrote. "Russia's confrontation with the United States will help mitigate Sino-Russian rivalries, mostly to China's advantage. But this doesn't mean Russia will be dominated by China; Moscow will likely find a way to craft a special relationship with its partner."
Immediate Implications

One of the earliest results to emerge from this new relationship will debut this week at the St. Petersburg Economic Forum, when Russia and China are expected to sign an agreement to build Russia's first dedicated high-speed railway, which will link Moscow with Kazan, the capital of Tatarstan.

Before the Ukraine crisis unfolded a year and a half ago, this project had been on track to be constructed with the help of European companies.

Meanwhile, a joint Russian-Chinese leasing company will soon spend more than $3 billion to purchase 100 Russian Sukhoi Superjets, another lucrative outcome of Putin's talks with Xi in May.

Speaking at a press conference last week, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev went so far as to express gratitude for the Western sanctions that have been imposed against Russia in waves since the start of the Ukraine crisis. These sanctions served as an impetus in the strengthening of Moscow's relations with its Eastern neighbors, Medvedev said.

"I thank all the states that have adopted these sanctions, and I say this absolutely sincerely," Medvedev said at the conference.