Topic: Russia expanding operation to "demilitarize" all of NATO (Read 57 times)

Russians still have an option to leave Ukraine and not die.

I think the sanctions will stay in place until Russia remains an imperialist, terrorist state.

As for demilitarizing the West, well, good luck with that.

The West has a production capacity couple of orders of magnitude larger than Russia (without sanctions).

Russians still have an option to leave Ukraine and not die. - Russian forces came to correct the Ukraine government, etc. They have been doing a reasonable job of it, so why leave until the job is done? Besides, the rewards for their efforts are all those US war machines the Ukrainian army will be leaving behind.

I think the sanctions will stay in place until Russia remains an imperialist, terrorist state. - So far, the sanctions from the terrorist US and European nations have only made Russia more determined and stronger. It's Western Europe that is in trouble because of their own sanctions against Russia.

As for demilitarizing the West, well, good luck with that. - Yes, it's a problem. Russian leaders are trying to find a way to do it without resorting to nukes. If the US continues to destroy their own economy like they are, it might be a bit easier for the Russians if they just wait a little.

The West has a production capacity couple of orders of magnitude larger than Russia (without sanctions). - All that means is that there are more people. More people makes it easier to find some to destroy. But since Russia doesn't want to do that... well, it's a difficult task, slapping down the US without hurting any of us Americans. Russia has a lot of experience, and Putin is very clever. They just might figure out a way.

All of which Russia would have done peacefully, through trade, if the US hadn't been instigating the Ukraine to fight and kill Russians... like they have been doing for the last 8 years or so.

In my opinion, this is a very dangerous escalation in the course of events, and it is highly expected after the recent threats against Poland by the Russian Foreign Minister.

At the same time, the initial predictions were validated about Russia's goals for the invasion of Ukraine:
- Extension of its sphere of influence to include lands that belonged to the Soviet Union, and thus the crack of war will expand.
- Dismantling the military system of NATO on its borders, which means not ruling out the hypothesis of direct confrontations.

US pussyfooting in Ukraine is pushing Russia into making its move, now. What is the move? Destruction of NATO, and the permanent weakening of the US and Western Europe.

If you don't like this, get Biden and the Dems (Pelosi) out of office as quickly as you can. You just might save a little of America.

The United States is flooding Ukraine with so many weapons that Russia has announced that it must take a more global approach to its “special operation” in Ukraine.

Instead of just dealing with the globalist problem in that country, Russia quickly realizes that all of NATO is its enemy. The axis of evil is much greater than just Ukraine’s puppet government is a simple way of putting it.

“I have some unpleasant news,” said Olga Skabeeva on the Russian state TV program 60 Minutes. “Even though we are methodically destroying the weapons that are being delivered [to Ukraine], the quantities in which the United States are sending them force us to come up with some global conclusions.”

“Perhaps it’s time to acknowledge that maybe Russia’s special operation in Ukraine has come to an end, in a sense that a real war had started: WWIII,” she added. “We’re forced to conduct the demilitarization not only of Ukraine but of the entire NATO alliance.”

These are big words, but ones that have been written on the wall for quite some time now. Many could see that this was moving towards World War III once NATO decided to gang up on Russia for dealing with the Ukraine problem.

Both the United States and Poland, along with other NATO countries such as Germany, have been funneling weapons and other gear into Ukraine as part of a unified front against Russia. This leaves Russia with very little option other than to fight back against the whole shebang.

“Indeed, we need to remember the words of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, who said that anyone who tries to interfere in the special military operation will pay a heavy price,” added Vladimir Avatkov from Russia’s Diplomatic Academy of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

“We never forget about these words of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, but a great number of people are already standing in line, trying to interfere in Russia’s special operation on the territory of Ukraine,” Skabeeva quickly interjected.

“Turns out, we have to act – but we’re yet to figure out how we can act without conducting a nuclear strike.”

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He made the comments just after meeting with President Joe Biden at the White House. "We just have to be prepared for the long haul," Stoltenberg said, adding ominously, "Because what we see is that this war has now become a war of attrition."

The NATO chief emphasized that Ukrainians are "paying a high price for defending their own country on the battlefield, but also we see that Russia is taking high casualties."

"Most wars - also, most likely this war - will at some stage end at the negotiating table, but what we know is that what happens around the negotiating table is very closely linked to the situation on the ground, on the battlefield," he explained.

Thus far a handful of European countries have urged robust negotiations, particularly France under Macron, with Italy last month also offering a detailed peace plan; however, the Ukrainian and Russian sides have ceased meeting since prior Turkey-hosted talks failed to make any significant progress.

US and UK leaders in particular seem to have urged Zelensky to fight on and not be willing to make any territorial concessions. Some reports have even dubbed Biden and the UK's Johnson the "primary obstacles to peace" in Ukraine as others like Macron hold regular talks with Putin, hoping for some kind of breakthrough. Some pundits have said more cynically that the West stands ready to "fight till the last Ukrainian".

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