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legendary
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Well done Aliyev, he boldly expressed his claims to Putin about the shameless apology for the downed plane, which Putin called a tragic incident and did not admit that Russian air defense shot down a passenger airliner.
legendary
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December 30, 2024, 03:32:18 AM
#12
In connection with the Baku-Grozny plane crash, I. Aliyev demanded not only an apology for the tragic incident, as Putin did, but also an admission of guilt, punishment of the guilty and compensation. He also accused Russia of "trying to hush up the issue" by putting forward another version in addition to the birds - about the explosion of a cylinder on board. Does Russia have evidence that an oxygen cylinder was on board the plane? I will offer Putin another version, namely, that there was an Armenian terrorist on board under the name of an Azerbaijani. How do you like it, a good version? And what about the UFO? It must be said that President Aliyev, despite friendly relations, addressed Putin quite demandingly, one might say, this is more like an ultimatum. And then, what kind of tragic incident? Where are the specifics?

I guess he is not pro-Putin enough to share the political and economical pain related to waging a war while pretending that there is not such a thing happening.

There is however no ultimatum, there will be no official recognition of guilt and the  Kremlin will blame the weather, the birds or the qualitfy of the fuel (just read comments above, it will not be much different from that).

Ruzzia cannot guarantee a safe airspace for the commercial aviation, but who is going to voice that out knowing what it means for their economy?

 I believe that Aliyev is forced to be on friendly terms with Putin, since Azerbaijan is much weaker in military terms than aggressive Russia. Azerbaijan officially positions itself as a neutral country, not a member of any military bloc. The only thing that brings Azerbaijan closer to Russia is the nature of its power - it is dictatorial. However, if the Russian Empire is aggressive, then Azerbaijan is a peaceful country. In the Karabakh conflict, Azerbaijan did not attack Armenia, unlike it, it only liberated the territory under Armenian occupation.
legendary
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Do not die for Putin
December 29, 2024, 07:09:27 PM
#11
In connection with the Baku-Grozny plane crash, I. Aliyev demanded not only an apology for the tragic incident, as Putin did, but also an admission of guilt, punishment of the guilty and compensation. He also accused Russia of "trying to hush up the issue" by putting forward another version in addition to the birds - about the explosion of a cylinder on board. Does Russia have evidence that an oxygen cylinder was on board the plane? I will offer Putin another version, namely, that there was an Armenian terrorist on board under the name of an Azerbaijani. How do you like it, a good version? And what about the UFO? It must be said that President Aliyev, despite friendly relations, addressed Putin quite demandingly, one might say, this is more like an ultimatum. And then, what kind of tragic incident? Where are the specifics?

I guess he is not pro-Putin enough to share the political and economical pain related to waging a war while pretending that there is not such a thing happening.

There is however no ultimatum, there will be no official recognition of guilt and the  Kremlin will blame the weather, the birds or the qualitfy of the fuel (just read comments above, it will not be much different from that).

Ruzzia cannot guarantee a safe airspace for the commercial aviation, but who is going to voice that out knowing what it means for their economy?
jr. member
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December 29, 2024, 05:24:32 PM
#10
The fact that they attempted to force the civilian aircraft out to sea to get rid of the evidence displays a certain style of callousness only an actual certifiable psychopath could make excuses for  Cool
legendary
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December 29, 2024, 12:38:36 PM
#9
In connection with the Baku-Grozny plane crash, I. Aliyev demanded not only an apology for the tragic incident, as Putin did, but also an admission of guilt, punishment of the guilty and compensation. He also accused Russia of "trying to hush up the issue" by putting forward another version in addition to the birds - about the explosion of a cylinder on board. Does Russia have evidence that an oxygen cylinder was on board the plane? I will offer Putin another version, namely, that there was an Armenian terrorist on board under the name of an Azerbaijani. How do you like it, a good version? And what about the UFO? It must be said that President Aliyev, despite friendly relations, addressed Putin quite demandingly, one might say, this is more like an ultimatum. And then, what kind of tragic incident? Where are the specifics?
legendary
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Do not die for Putin
December 27, 2024, 06:00:27 PM
#8
To much to think about and too many dangerous ojects running around. In the end, this is a country at war, there's little they can do to keep a credible safe airspace when there are continuous attacks. This could have been different at the beguining of the war, but now it is not only Ukraine who would need to be considering closing airspaces.
legendary
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December 27, 2024, 05:23:18 PM
#7
everything cannot always be attributed to Russia and Putin. The fact of placing all the blame and finding a scapegoat and placing everything on Russia is wrong, you have to think with your own head and try to be objective, with this I'm not saying that Putin is a saint but we must try to be impartial, every war is wrong but we are not always guilty

 Russia is to blame, it was Russia that attacked Ukraine, not the other way around, it was Russia that shot down Boeing flight MH-17 and came up with all sorts of nonsense to shift the blame to Ukraine. The same thing is happening with the downed Azerbaijani airliner, and instead of apologizing and admitting guilt, it is again trying to shirk responsibility. On Putin's orders, his political opponents Nemtsov and Navalny were killed, Litvinenko and the Skripals were poisoned. It was Putin who destroyed sports in Russia, depriving athletes of the right to participate in international competitions.
member
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December 27, 2024, 03:02:40 PM
#6
everything cannot always be attributed to Russia and Putin. The fact of placing all the blame and finding a scapegoat and placing everything on Russia is wrong, you have to think with your own head and try to be objective, with this I'm not saying that Putin is a saint but we must try to be impartial, every war is wrong but we are not always guilty
legendary
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December 27, 2024, 11:25:08 AM
#5
Accidents happen.

Or, a Russian antagonist was aboard.

Or, when will those planes learn to stay out of the path of bullets and missiles?

Cool
legendary
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https://bpip.org
December 27, 2024, 11:08:24 AM
#4
fake news, bullets not missile

Yeah Bruce Willis shot it with a shotgun.

But I get it, Kremlin propaganda is like Nigerian scams - an IQ test to select the dumbest of the dumbest. Congratulations, you passed.
sr. member
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Freedom, Natural Law
legendary
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December 27, 2024, 02:28:30 AM
#2
There must have been a Zelensky look-alike on board.      Cool
legendary
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December 27, 2024, 01:55:00 AM
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Alik Bakhshi

Russia has shot down a passenger plane again

The Azerbaijani plane flying from Baku to Grozny was shot down by a missile in Chechnya, or rather, it was hit, but remained in the air. The crew's request for permission to land was denied and they redirected it to Makhachkala, but they were unable to land the plane there either, only Kazakhstan gave permission to land at the Alatau airport. However, at the very last moment, an explosion occurred during landing. Moscow immediately began to come up with various absurd versions, as in the case of the Malaysian plane MH-17 shot down by mistake. The Kremlin, by not giving permission for the plane to land in Russia, hoped that the damaged plane would not make it and would fall into the sea, and it would be difficult to establish the cause of the disaster and the death of 38 of the 67 people on board the airliner.

Alik Bakhshi

MH-17, or Russia in Lies

So, after a two-year investigation, the Netherlands published an interim report by an international group of experts on the cause of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing-777, flight MH-17, over the southeastern territory of Ukraine, torn away by Russian separatists with the military support of Russia. Based on the collected reliable facts, experts came to the conclusion that the plane was shot down by a Buk air defense missile system, which contradicts the radar data released by the Russian Defense Ministry in 2014, indicating that a Ukrainian S-25 attack aircraft was in the sky at the time of the crash, which allegedly shot down the plane with an air-to-air missile. It seems that there is a competition in the Russian government to disavow Russia's guilt in the deaths of 298 people on flight MH-17. The Kremlin rushes from one absurdity to another. Various mutually exclusive false assumptions are put forward in order to avoid responsibility for the downed Boeing 777. Thus, apparently based on the assumption that American space surveillance equipment could have registered the absence of any other air object in the area of ​​the incident, except for the Malaysian airliner, it was claimed that the airliner was hit by a surface-to-air missile launched from territory controlled by the Ukrainian military, with the exact launch site of the missile indicated - near the settlement of Zaroshchenske. However, the soil samples taken did not confirm the Russian version of the missile launch near Zaroshchenske. From a survey of eyewitnesses, it was revealed that the missile was fired in the area of ​​the settlement of Snezhnoye. Based on the soil samples taken, the exact launch site of the missile was established, namely the settlement of Pervomaysky, which is two kilometers from the settlement of Snezhnoye, which is located on the territory of the self-proclaimed Donetsk Republic. The report also states that the Buk system was delivered through the Russian border and hastily taken back to Russia after the missile was launched at the Malaysian Boeing 777.

The lack of information about the progress of the investigation made it difficult for the Kremlin to choose false options that would refute the involvement of Russian air defense systems in the Donetsk region. In this regard, Russia's latest reaction to the Dutch report is interesting. Russia presented new data on the radar situation at the time of the Boeing's downing, from which it follows that the radar station did not register either the missile or the Ukrainian attack aircraft. One cannot help but wonder why Russia hid this data for two years and only handed it over to the commission conducting the investigation after reviewing the report. Moreover, how can Russia claim that the missile was launched by Ukrainians from the village of Roshchenskoye if, according to the data it presented, the radar did not register a single missile at all? It turns out that flight MH-17 was not shot down, but fell on its own. Absurd! The Kremlin is completely entangled in lies,
Now it is clear why Russia vetoed the UN Security Council resolution on the creation of an international tribunal for the crash of flight MH-17. The main liar of the Empire of Lies (1) is trying to deflect the blame for the deaths of 298 people from the Russian military. The Evil Empire has once again returned to its habit of shooting down civilian aircraft. Russian terrorists in Ukraine, having anti-aircraft missiles, have already shot down Ukrainian aircraft. From the negotiations between the terrorists, it is clear that they mistakenly shot down the Malaysian Boeing, thinking that it was a Ukrainian plane. Interestingly, the main liar gave himself away by citing the fact that if there was peace in Ukraine, this would not have happened. Only Putin forgot to mention that he is to blame for the tragedy. The Empire of Lies, realizing the dangerous situation it has driven itself into, is trying to blame Ukraine. An incriminating fact - Russian terrorists, after realizing their mistake, took away the Buk anti-aircraft system from their position.

It is time to exclude Russia from the UN for its aggression in Georgia and Ukraine, for the blood-soaked Chechnya, just as the Soviet Union was once excluded from the League of Nations for the war it unleashed with Finland in 1939. The international community must finally realize that it is useless to negotiate, much less sign any documents with lying Russia.

1. The Empire of Lies and its Chief Liar http://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/22317.html

10/08/16


The fact that the Azerbaijani plane was shot down by a Russian missile is indicated by the characteristic holes in the plane's body, the same as in the downed Malaysian Boeing. Moreover, even before the crash, there were people injured in the plane due to the exploding missile, the fragments of which pierced the plane's body and hit the passengers inside. The Kremlin's version that a flock of birds is to blame for the plane's crash is completely absurd. No bird can pierce the body, enter through a small hole left by the exploding warhead of the missile and injure a passenger. However, lying is a common thing for the Empire of Lies.
It will be interesting to see what the reaction of Azerbaijani President I. Aliyev, who is a friend of Putin, will be. In the case of MH-17, the Kremlin blamed the air defense of Ukraine as a country at war with Russia. However, in this case, Russia shot down a plane of a friendly country. Of course, the Azerbaijani plane was shot down by mistake, just like the Malaysian Boeing, but the fact that Russia again refuses to admit this mistake leaves a negative mark.

12/27/2024
 
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