Topic: Russia vs the world??? (Read 433 times)

None? What about Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq?

Clear borders? Ukraine? You have documents?
Then go to international court and present them. Prove your claims.
Specifically, prove your claim to Sevastopol, that didn't return in the 90-ies only because Russian parliament was shot at by traitor Yeltsin.

During the split of USSR:
Kravchuk: And what will we do with Crimea?
Yeltsin: Help yourself (Da zabiray!)

once you have seen majestic russia the rest of the world is quite tern...

Good point. Someone should tell Poland and Lithuania to get on with protecting their 17th century borders...

How far back can we go with historic grievances? Asking for my Italian friend.

What aggression? I don't see any aggression, they're just protecting their border, probably remembering all those centuries of trouble
with Lithuania, Poland, France, Sweden, Germany...


They even withdrew from East Germany, while USA still keep Germany and Japan occupied

u c? you already with less fear... but please staying on the topic...

russia vs the world? what's new in this saying? if they want russia they will have to take it... many have tried all have failed... I think the next to fall will be the exiled gang of london and their pedo friends in the uk estabilshement... for them it has just begun...

I think the real war is between the european kings who try to use the us and other civilized nations against other civilized nations...

so it's the kings and their serfs vs the people...

kings /= sheiks... it's another can of (sand)worms .


it's funny here as soon as I have a valid, simple and easy argument to refute : like are silverstein, epstein and polanski russian agents? there is big silence... at least try... you would improve... otherwise it's deny and you only get weaker.

lol,Croatia is not close to russia thats why you can talk shit like you know it all.
Ukraine is close to border , their border was changed recently . Baltics are close.

You guys are the perfect example of ignorance along with the other guy ( ignoring me ) who proves that he wants to live in his small world with illusions about some kind of world were Russian apparatus is good and USA is the enemy. You are just sad.

I am not saying that USA is some kind angel but ignoring Russian aggression is just plain stupid or paid movement.

Which one?

only fear God (or be against the flow).

Actually, Croatia is in NATO, pretty close to Russia and I'm more afraid of Americans than Russians

You just have to compare USA intervention in Vietnam vs USSR intervention in Chekoslovakia to see
who cares less about body count

nope it's just their business who depends on it (maybe some kind of pedo / sexslave trafficking)... there is nothing to do with them but use them as fertilizers when they time will come...

in the meantime after having added them to your personal ignore list... let's dream and be careful about the buddies beyond the river... if they knew about weinstein, epstein, roman polanski.... hmmmm .... bullets (and much more) will fly and not toward russia .


dude we know, you work for them... it's okay. no worry. you need to eat and co, but it's too late already , enjoy the scraps, while you still can...

I am not brainwashed, you are the one without any knowledge. I am here living besides Russia border while you are some where talking smart shit or just a paid russian troll.
Ok,seeing your post history , you are indeed brainwashed russian troll. I cant fight paid russian trolls like you on my own , you are promoting aggressor propaganda and with that your are bad human being. There is nothing else to add.

Wow, man, you're so brainwashed that I'm afraid theres no hope for you

What the f are you talking about, what pedo bussines..
You clearly do not live besides Russian border and can afford to philosophize and beautifully discuss one or another politcal event, but I cant , me and millions of people live beside this huge aggressor country with brainwashed people. I can tell it with absolute certainty that Russian people are being brainwashed by their media to unbelievable level. How do i know that? I have relatives who live in Russia as a lot of people who live close to Russian border in free world. As well as i speak russian and have acces to their so called media which is theater.  My country has been occupied by this country and they have killed and destroyed countless lives of my countrymen . You dont have the right to talk about current Russian apparatus in positive way because there is nothing positive about it, there was brief moment in history that there was hope for their people but now it is dark for them and people besides this country is afraid and NATO is our hope.

If you are not informed about this , then travel,meat people besides the border and inside Russia. And LEARN how things are if your are not willing to do that then your opinion   has no value.

what the f dude... who is running a pedo island on little st. james? who is letting epstein free? who is letting weinstein free? who gave immunity to roman polanski? answer... you know here it's peaceful, just pixels... now, why do establishement of some countries want to be in nato? to run their own pedo business? who knows... again reply, who run pedo island? is epstein, weinstein or polanski helped by the rooskies? answer no.

so why do you deny? have a pedo business to expand and need nato customers?

and let's speak about mr larry silverstein... russian agent too? please...

What are you trying to tell with this map? That Russia is afraid of NATO ?

If yes then it is complete and utter bullshit. Russia is aggressor and are even in these times occupying countries with clear borders and killing civilians and in the same NONE of the NATO countries are doing something even similar since WW2. Except Turkey which is cuddling with Russian now and is not acting sane as we all know it.
BTW map is incorrect , there are more NATO countries there which are not pointed out.

Countries want to be in NATo because of Russia not the other way around.

all mi5/6 worldwide should be killed, until the last, toielt cleaners included.

mercy, pity, are only weakness.

telford, roterham etc in russia? 0.

maybe this will clear up things a bit for you:

I do not think that russia is the threat to the world or any other country with he has good relations. But it is clear that russia hates the country USA for the rebelious behaviour that is the reason Russia has the aggressive behaviour towards other countries so no one take him easy.

But the Russia will never attack the world or any other country for that matter.

The reason is very simple, Putin is afraid of losing hes power. If people are not distracted then they star tto think why there is much corruption why they are living in poverty when Putin and his friends have BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS. So he is trying his best to brainwash the society of Russia with misinformation and with fear , fear that there is an enemy real or not and one of the fear and distraction tactics is WAR.

P.S. Russia have a TON of paid trolls in internet , i wont be surprised to see them here as well.

EDIT:
And here seems to be one of those trolls, any intelligent human being knows that Russia is aggressor.

Cause US mastered mind control a bit earlier.
Look up Tavistock Institute with it's 100-years long programs, MK-Ultra and so on.
Perception management, NLP, postmodernism.

Just one fact: it is believed that battlefield losses in World War II were much greater for Russians than Germans.
In fact, most deaths happened in POW camps where Germans violated international treaties and just exterminated prisoners.
Russians didn't pay them in kind. So those captive Germans got out and spread their propaganda, rather than be grateful - they considered us weak for not avenging them.
If we were "normal", meaning genociding indigenous population everywhere we colonize, helping Pol Pot to capture Cambodia etc. etc. - nobody would say anything against us. The problem is, we don't feel it right to behave like Anglo-Saxon people in India, China, North America, parts of Africa, Viet Nam and so on, without mentioning the recent tragedy of Arab world.

As for Georgia, I don't know about Abkhazia war but before Osetia war broke out, US gave orders to shoot at Osetians.
Same in Kyiv in 2014. US ordered to shoot at civilians in Donbas, or at least Kyiv junta thought their US masters will like that.
There is currently people's Tribunal in Donbas (consisting of Ukrainian citizens acting under Ukrainian laws) that is documenting
Kyiv regime's military crimes.

It amuses me why you mainstream media following retards assume Russia is the bad guy and the US is the good guy.

The truth is they are the same, different sides of the same coin.

They are both super powers struggling to control more land and natural resources and increase their grip on the world by any means necessary.

Why does the whole world think that Russia is always to blame? I know that on leading TV channels of the world Russia show!! If a person all his life to say that he is a nobody, he is nobody. If a man about to show that he is bad - all budut to think that it's bad. BUT It's not - Russia is never itself on anybody did not attack and such a desire has never been, and the fact that they say TV is a blatant lie and a provocation.

Come to Russia and you will see that this country is just beautiful and kind - here do not hate foreigners and everyone is happy!. Remember the story and have just read who is always attacked by Russia - It never first attacked - on the contrary due to the vast territory has always wanted to attack her and grab a piece.
Now the same thing is happening - Georgia attacked Abkhazia in 2008 - but all this is forgotten and Russia is to blame, Ukraine staged a coup in power - but no one is interested-Russia is to blame. The former CIS countries are destroying monuments to Soviet soldiers - but no one is interested-Russia is to blame. Hitler attacked the USSR - but no one is interested-to blame Russia..
What you Want tell me - open your eyes and be peaceful!!!

well russians acted in georgia same like the usa acted in jugoslavia with kosovo's they wanted to spread dollar banking cartel enslavement as far as possible. so russians said, if you just interpred things according to your point of interest, we can do the same. shakaswili should have known that he is not the queen in the chessgame of superpowers but just a peasant.

Does that make it ok?

Why is everyone bearing a misconception about Russia and its role in world politics? It simply proves that the US and the West are pushing their propaganda right. But a critical look at things will actually give you a clearer perspective. Russia mostly, even if they're aggressive, goes after old Soviet states. The situation with Crimea is one that the media has twisted completely. If I recall there was a referendum voted. So, say what you may, it was majorly a democratic move. The US only seeks to wax stronger and stronger and control all the resources all over the world. Russia and her Putin however are putting up a strong opposition to this tyranny. And I think I am loving it for now.

Which country is russia occupying? Maybe Iraq? Oh no, thats americans there. Afghanistan? Nope, still americans. Syria? Nope, they were invited there. Libya? Nope, only western mercenaries there. Ukraine? There are no russians there 

Catalonia had almost same situation as Abkhazia.
Do you really think that it's right when you give home to homeless people and they start taking control of the territory on which they are minority?

Same question to you. Whole world, except few countries,  recognizes Abkhazia and "South Osetia" as Part of Georgia. Why did Russia attack Georgians in war of Abkhazia? It must've been a civil war. Abkhazia in 1991 had 19% of Apsuas, others where Georgians, 20% Armenians and other minorities.
If Abkhazian people wanted independence, why didn't they make referendum about it? Well they actually did and huge majority wanted to stay in Georgia.
300 000 Georgians were kicked out of Abkhazia after the war.

To say it in a simple way - Georgians invited Apsuas in their country to live in 18th or 19th century because they didn't have anywhere to live. Then they gave them nearly 20 seats in Parlament when only 11 seats were for minorities in the country and they simply kicked out their hosts.

who said that Russia occupied Georgia? Do you read news from one source?

Putin is a stupid politician and does not know how to rule the country at all. In Russia, a very strong propoganda that in Russia everything is fine and vrugiz countries are all bad. And people believe it. Russia made the first mistake when it occupied Georgia. The second mistake was the Crimea's occupation and the war on the Donbass, after the introduction of the sanctions for Russia in 2014 when the dollar jumped to 60 rubles, then the Russians were surprised.
Now, 2018, the troops of Russia are stupid and sloppy, those who are taken to the compulsory service in 18 years of age in the army, they do not know anything, some army men kept the gun ak-47 only once in the whole year. About the contract troops in the army, I will not say anything, almost the same thing. What kind of war will be with Russia? No, there is nothing that Russia has is a show-off, it can not give any opposition, and only small states can seize it.

I've heard this time and time again, the imminent war between the world powers which is going to come -- but weirdly enough never does. People don't seem to understand that these world nations are never going to go to war if they ever do the entire world would be destroyed and that would be the end of humanity as we know it. These world nations, through geopolitics, may seem like they're always on the way to war -- but they're not.

It's a scare tactic as a way to keep people at bay -- mostly within the authoritarian countries of Russia, China, and so on and so forth. The United States MAY use this as well -- though I don't think this is used to the same degree as countries that really do need it in order to use scare tactics against their citizens.

Russia is given a good amount of space in their own little 'sphere of influence' though, so people must remember this.

People also forget that Russia has a large amount of influence in the European area -- check out this link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_in_the_European_energy_sector)

https://www.facebook.com/christina.pushh/videos/10214464455739400/UzpfSTEwMDAwMjAyOTI5NTIyMDoxNzc3MjYzNTA1Njg0NjA5/?notif_id=1534687450385621¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic

Watch this and you will know what actually happened

so called "georgia" has a minority, that doesnt want the government in tifilis or how the name of the country sounds. they want to be independent from it.

seriously i live in europe and i give a damn about the banking cartel, that seeks to spread and enslave as many people as possible with their banking cartel like in this case in "georgia"

Haven't heard so much bullshit in a long time.
20% of Georgia is occupied by Russia and it is recognized by almost every country.
There was an election in 1991 for democratic Georgia and 90% of population voted from which 88% was affirmative.
If they were calling for help, why did they start war against Georgia and Ukraine???
Do some researches about it

Russia was not the aggressor here, neither in Syria or anywhere really. USA and their proxy wars... Ukraine had a democratic procedure but got hi jacked by EU(USA)

Russia is defending Syria from Israeli occupation and have been fighting the USA funded and armed ISIS... USA and Israel is doing everything to prevent the Russian / Iranian pipeline to pass Syria into EU and keep the massive oil findings in Golan heights. They want to have an energy monopoly over EU and shut out Iran / Russia...

Russia has seen cruise missiles hit Syria without firing back, the only aggressor in the world is USA and their allies! How can someone belive the mainstream media in 2018, that is just scary

Russia is probably unlikely to outright invade these countries but it will continue to fuel pro-Russian sentiment, particularly in Russian majority regions, to create unrest and an image of oppressed people asking Russia to help. De-facto it already occupies parts of Georgia and Ukraine, which might be all Putin wants there. Same with Moldova. Eastern Estonia might be at risk, but (1) Russians there seem to be better off than their counterparts in Ukraine, Georgia, or Russia proper; and (2) NATO.

Regime change in Belarus or Kazakhstan could be interesting, unlikely as that may be.

russia didnt't occupied those countries. the population there were calling for russia to free them from the group of people the american banking cartel has installed there

there was also a election in which the populaton voted for federalisation.

I think unless there is no revolution in Russia, they will still try to keep being aggressive.

I think no one will help Russia because they are wrong in every single case

I think that Russia will continue occupying little countries. Russia doesn't follow regulations of different world organisations. I think that Trump will try to stop agression of Russia because Russias agression isn't good for him. Trump need army bases in Caucasus, because Caucasus is one of the nearest places to Russia. Honestly I have no opinion who will be on Russia's side. Maybe little countries Nikaragua and like it which has fear of Russia.

I don't understand why russia has to be so aggresive... I'm Pacifist and i hope after years whole world will be against war and any aggresive activity

Hate Russia with its aggressive behavior. I hope NATO and USA will help little countries

Guys, wanted to know your opinion about potencial war incoming.

What do you think, will Russia continue occupying little countries like Georgia and Ukraine resulting in a new war or will it stop using such an aggressive politics?

Will Trump try to stop Russia or he needs Caucasus only for his army bases?

And what do you think, who will be on Russia's side??