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Topic: Russian Collusion is just a distraction. (Read 431 times)

legendary
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November 12, 2018, 06:52:00 PM
#31
....they're working for their own interest -- together.  And when I mean their own interests, I mean the highest bidder.

Crazy system we have, but it seems like the best that we've got as of right now.

And as far as working together to solve problems, you just stated the problem.
legendary
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
November 12, 2018, 06:28:15 PM
#30
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Let's focus on the problems folks, on both sides of the aisle.

That's actually what the largest part of the people would like, but it is not what either party has sought in decades.

Hence you and I got Trump.

I'm not complaining.

Of course, this is how it works. This is what as known as the 'uniparty' where both sides are just going to fight as a distraction for how they're really just working with one another on most things.

Batman needs the joker, eh!
With one clarification, namely that "how they're really just working with one another" is NOT EQUAL TO "working with one another for the benefit of the people" but is in many cases contrary to those interests.

Well of course, they're working for their own interest -- together.  And when I mean their own interests, I mean the highest bidder.

Crazy system we have, but it seems like the best that we've got as of right now.
legendary
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November 11, 2018, 04:09:25 PM
#29
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Let's focus on the problems folks, on both sides of the aisle.

That's actually what the largest part of the people would like, but it is not what either party has sought in decades.

Hence you and I got Trump.

I'm not complaining.

Of course, this is how it works. This is what as known as the 'uniparty' where both sides are just going to fight as a distraction for how they're really just working with one another on most things.

Batman needs the joker, eh!
With one clarification, namely that "how they're really just working with one another" is NOT EQUAL TO "working with one another for the benefit of the people" but is in many cases contrary to those interests.
legendary
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
November 11, 2018, 04:03:47 PM
#28
....

Let's focus on the problems folks, on both sides of the aisle.

That's actually what the largest part of the people would like, but it is not what either party has sought in decades.

Hence you and I got Trump.

I'm not complaining.

Of course, this is how it works. This is what as known as the 'uniparty' where both sides are just going to fight as a distraction for how they're really just working with one another on most things.

Batman needs the joker, eh!
legendary
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November 10, 2018, 09:37:50 PM
#27
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Let's focus on the problems folks, on both sides of the aisle.

That's actually what the largest part of the people would like, but it is not what either party has sought in decades.

Hence you and I got Trump.

I'm not complaining.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast

Nutin' new with Trump.

Pretty sure that deficit is gonna be pretty bad; tax cuts were a silly idea during a trade war. Trickle down obviously doesn't work with the growing wage inequality.

It's true, Trump did not have "reduce deficit" as one of his promises.

There are other ways to deal with the deficit.

It may be an error to think it is solvable by governments.

Regardless, crypto currencies moderate and self correct fiat inflations, so how can we be concerned with it?



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November 10, 2018, 06:45:33 PM
#26
....

Let's focus on the problems folks, on both sides of the aisle.

That's actually what the largest part of the people would like, but it is not what either party has sought in decades.

Hence you and I got Trump.

I'm not complaining.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast

Nutin' new with Trump.

Pretty sure that deficit is gonna be pretty bad; tax cuts were a silly idea during a trade war. Trickle down obviously doesn't work with the growing wage inequality.
legendary
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November 10, 2018, 06:03:23 PM
#25
....

Let's focus on the problems folks, on both sides of the aisle.

That's actually what the largest part of the people would like, but it is not what either party has sought in decades.

Hence you and I got Trump.

I'm not complaining.
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November 10, 2018, 05:18:53 PM
#24
I guess the trump tower meeting didn't happen.

Oh wait, it did.

This thread is just for morons sucking Trump's dick. Not for people living in reality.

Now you are calling gays morons?

Why, that's not politically correct. A good Democratic operative should show sensitivity to all his LBGTEXZHWAZKTHWND

I just calls 'em like I sees 'em. If you're offended snowflake, buck up Wink


https://www.justice.gov/sco

ALL THE INDICTMENTS.

The Russian collusion investigation actually earned the government money via civil forfeiture.


Let's focus on the problems folks, on both sides of the aisle.

Sure, why not make a thread on climate change or something that actually matters? Everyone is affected by weather. That's a problem both parties agree on in Florida.

Now why can't we make it a national thing? Just because the current executive administration denies it, doesn't mean it's not an issue.
legendary
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November 10, 2018, 04:33:58 PM
#23
I guess the trump tower meeting didn't happen.

Oh wait, it did.

This thread is just for morons sucking Trump's dick. Not for people living in reality.

Now you are calling gays morons?

Why, that's not politically correct. A good Democratic operative should show sensitivity to all his LBGTEXZHWAZKTHWND
legendary
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
November 10, 2018, 10:43:23 AM
#22
https://www.justice.gov/sco

ALL THE INDICTMENTS.

The Russian collusion investigation actually earned the government money via civil forfeiture.

Are we really just going to act like once the government takes something, through civil forfeiture, that it's going to be theirs forever. There's, of course, going to be lawsuits relating to what has been seized. More and more attorney fees, and then boom -- no one wins in the end while the lawyers make money and the American people are distracted and problems aren't being solved.

Let's focus on the problems folks, on both sides of the aisle.
legendary
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November 10, 2018, 09:48:16 AM
#21
Uhm do you guys ever heard of Führerkult (cult of personality)  Shocked

I mean solving problems is a good thing, but we arent looking for a benevolent dictator right?
legendary
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November 09, 2018, 11:45:00 PM
#20
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Learn to use google, eh? There's plenty of information regarding the Trump tower meeting...


"BUT WHAT'S THE CONNECTION!!!!##"14ijrwkqawjtrk3q4qwr" - TECHSHARE every single time... I swear, this is such a simple topic, yet you make it so complex with your mental gymnastics.


Literally the fucking connection is the Trump Tower Meeting, that's the "ACTUAL" connection to Trump... oh, and twitter when he requested the emails to be hacked.

No, ACTUALLY, it's not. Neither is his joking around on Twitter. Use your brain.

Yeah, joking around... except the other side didn't take it as a joke and literally started working at compromising Clinton's emails that very same day.

"IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO!!!!"

What a shitty excuse kid.

You want my opinion regarding that comment by Trump? It wasn't an invite for them to hack her, but it's an acknowledgement they already had hacked her. And that was well known at the time. It was in the newspapers. Then there was Julian Assauge and the things he had to say.

So there's first, a misunderstanding of the facts on your part. Then, there's no prank, and no excuse. Any other questions?
legendary
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November 09, 2018, 11:21:01 PM
#19
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A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment on July 13, 2018, against 12 Russian nationals for their alleged roles in computer hacking conspiracies aimed at interfering in the 2016 U.S. elections. The indictment charges 11 of the defendants with conspiracy to commit computer crimes, eight counts of aggravated identity theft, and conspiracy to launder money. Two defendants are charged with a separate conspiracy to commit computer crimes.

Rekt.

"Just a distraction"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_Bear

"Cyber warfare is just a distraction"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cozy_Bear

"Cyber warfare from Russia is just a distraction"

Christ.

Ok, so, you have some Russian hackers here allegedly. Now please explain, where does the collusion with Trump line up?

the trump tower meeting silly goose! You knew that.

Instead of just making cutesy comments how about you source your reference? We have been over this 1000 times. How do you expect anyone to take your opinions seriously if you can't even source or explain them in your own words.

All my sources are fake news, remember?

Learn to use google, eh? There's plenty of information regarding the Trump tower meeting...


"BUT WHAT'S THE CONNECTION!!!!##"14ijrwkqawjtrk3q4qwr" - TECHSHARE every single time... I swear, this is such a simple topic, yet you make it so complex with your mental gymnastics.


Literally the fucking connection is the Trump Tower Meeting, that's the "ACTUAL" connection to Trump... oh, and twitter when he requested the emails to be hacked.

No, I know how to do research. You do not. That's why every time you do this I am going to demand a source until you learn. You know why? You are making the claim so the burden of proof is on you. Show me the proof, or keep jibbering about nothing like you always do.
legendary
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November 09, 2018, 09:51:17 PM
#18
.....

Learn to use google, eh? There's plenty of information regarding the Trump tower meeting...


"BUT WHAT'S THE CONNECTION!!!!##"14ijrwkqawjtrk3q4qwr" - TECHSHARE every single time... I swear, this is such a simple topic, yet you make it so complex with your mental gymnastics.


Literally the fucking connection is the Trump Tower Meeting, that's the "ACTUAL" connection to Trump... oh, and twitter when he requested the emails to be hacked.

No, ACTUALLY, it's not. Neither is his joking around on Twitter. Use your brain.

Yeah, joking around... except the other side didn't take it as a joke and literally started working at compromising Clinton's emails that very same day.

"IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO!!!!"

What a shitty excuse kid.

No, five different countries had hacked the witch's emails totally long before that.
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November 09, 2018, 04:54:50 PM
#17
.....

Learn to use google, eh? There's plenty of information regarding the Trump tower meeting...


"BUT WHAT'S THE CONNECTION!!!!##"14ijrwkqawjtrk3q4qwr" - TECHSHARE every single time... I swear, this is such a simple topic, yet you make it so complex with your mental gymnastics.


Literally the fucking connection is the Trump Tower Meeting, that's the "ACTUAL" connection to Trump... oh, and twitter when he requested the emails to be hacked.

No, ACTUALLY, it's not. Neither is his joking around on Twitter. Use your brain.

Yeah, joking around... except the other side didn't take it as a joke and literally started working at compromising Clinton's emails that very same day.

"IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO!!!!"

What a shitty excuse kid.
legendary
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November 09, 2018, 04:52:41 PM
#16
.....

Learn to use google, eh? There's plenty of information regarding the Trump tower meeting...


"BUT WHAT'S THE CONNECTION!!!!##"14ijrwkqawjtrk3q4qwr" - TECHSHARE every single time... I swear, this is such a simple topic, yet you make it so complex with your mental gymnastics.


Literally the fucking connection is the Trump Tower Meeting, that's the "ACTUAL" connection to Trump... oh, and twitter when he requested the emails to be hacked.

No, ACTUALLY, it's not. Neither is his joking around on Twitter. Use your brain.
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November 09, 2018, 04:49:58 PM
#15
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A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment on July 13, 2018, against 12 Russian nationals for their alleged roles in computer hacking conspiracies aimed at interfering in the 2016 U.S. elections. The indictment charges 11 of the defendants with conspiracy to commit computer crimes, eight counts of aggravated identity theft, and conspiracy to launder money. Two defendants are charged with a separate conspiracy to commit computer crimes.

Rekt.

"Just a distraction"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_Bear

"Cyber warfare is just a distraction"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cozy_Bear

"Cyber warfare from Russia is just a distraction"

Christ.

Ok, so, you have some Russian hackers here allegedly. Now please explain, where does the collusion with Trump line up?

the trump tower meeting silly goose! You knew that.

Instead of just making cutesy comments how about you source your reference? We have been over this 1000 times. How do you expect anyone to take your opinions seriously if you can't even source or explain them in your own words.

All my sources are fake news, remember?

Learn to use google, eh? There's plenty of information regarding the Trump tower meeting...


"BUT WHAT'S THE CONNECTION!!!!##"14ijrwkqawjtrk3q4qwr" - TECHSHARE every single time... I swear, this is such a simple topic, yet you make it so complex with your mental gymnastics.


Literally the fucking connection is the Trump Tower Meeting, that's the "ACTUAL" connection to Trump... oh, and twitter when he requested the emails to be hacked.
legendary
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November 09, 2018, 04:48:11 PM
#14
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A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment on July 13, 2018, against 12 Russian nationals for their alleged roles in computer hacking conspiracies aimed at interfering in the 2016 U.S. elections. The indictment charges 11 of the defendants with conspiracy to commit computer crimes, eight counts of aggravated identity theft, and conspiracy to launder money. Two defendants are charged with a separate conspiracy to commit computer crimes.

Rekt.

"Just a distraction"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_Bear

"Cyber warfare is just a distraction"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cozy_Bear

"Cyber warfare from Russia is just a distraction"

Christ.

Ok, so, you have some Russian hackers here allegedly. Now please explain, where does the collusion with Trump line up?

the trump tower meeting silly goose! You knew that.

Instead of just making cutesy comments how about you source your reference? We have been over this 1000 times. How do you expect anyone to take your opinions seriously if you can't even source or explain them in your own words?
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November 09, 2018, 04:46:17 PM
#13
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A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment on July 13, 2018, against 12 Russian nationals for their alleged roles in computer hacking conspiracies aimed at interfering in the 2016 U.S. elections. The indictment charges 11 of the defendants with conspiracy to commit computer crimes, eight counts of aggravated identity theft, and conspiracy to launder money. Two defendants are charged with a separate conspiracy to commit computer crimes.

Rekt.

"Just a distraction"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_Bear

"Cyber warfare is just a distraction"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cozy_Bear

"Cyber warfare from Russia is just a distraction"

Christ.

Ok, so, you have some Russian hackers here allegedly. Now please explain, where does the collusion with Trump line up?

the trump tower meeting silly goose! You knew that.
legendary
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November 09, 2018, 04:44:50 PM
#12
Quote
A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment on July 13, 2018, against 12 Russian nationals for their alleged roles in computer hacking conspiracies aimed at interfering in the 2016 U.S. elections. The indictment charges 11 of the defendants with conspiracy to commit computer crimes, eight counts of aggravated identity theft, and conspiracy to launder money. Two defendants are charged with a separate conspiracy to commit computer crimes.

Rekt.

"Just a distraction"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_Bear

"Cyber warfare is just a distraction"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cozy_Bear

"Cyber warfare from Russia is just a distraction"

Christ.

Ok, so, you have some Russian hackers here allegedly. Now please explain, where does the collusion with Trump line up?
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November 09, 2018, 04:43:13 PM
#11
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A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment on July 13, 2018, against 12 Russian nationals for their alleged roles in computer hacking conspiracies aimed at interfering in the 2016 U.S. elections. The indictment charges 11 of the defendants with conspiracy to commit computer crimes, eight counts of aggravated identity theft, and conspiracy to launder money. Two defendants are charged with a separate conspiracy to commit computer crimes.

Rekt.

"Just a distraction"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_Bear

"Cyber warfare is just a distraction"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cozy_Bear

"Cyber warfare from Russia is just a distraction"

Christ.
legendary
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November 09, 2018, 04:14:19 PM
#10
I guess the trump tower meeting didn't happen.

Oh wait, it did.

This thread is just for morons sucking Trump's dick. Not for people living in reality.
Yet more talk from you about cock sucking. But here you can't delete it. You sure like to talk about cock sucking a lot. Like you have a fetish about Trump's dick.

Now run along and see if reporting the post will help you.

legendary
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November 09, 2018, 03:36:04 PM
#9
It's really disturbing that we're still arguing this subject.  It's obviously partisan in nature.  There has been zero evidence that Trump is being blackmailed by the Russians.  There has been zero evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians, and so what if he did?  ....

I don't care what political party you affiliate with, if you are here to solve problems I'll support you.  If all you want to do is distract from solutions, and obstruct progress then you are a part of the problem.

The problem with your attitude is you think like Trump. None of the Democrats have this point of view, and only a fraction of the Republicans. Most are simply concerned with getting and maintaining power, and actually doing useful things is in their view, a distraction.

I see your point, and won't attempt to refute it.  But even a lie that's obviously a lie is likely to be believed by those who will feel vindicated by it.  If you repeat the lie often enough some who're aren't biased may even start to believe it.  

"True believers" are the most dangerous type of opponent, especially when they are wrong. That is part of why post modernism/Marxism is such a cancer. People present a narrative of victim-hood in order to justify the victimization of others, in order to get "equality" by taking some thing from others. This then creates a cycle of even more victims then looking for more people to "justifiably" victimize.

The worst part is since they think this is all for the greater good they fight with that much more vigor. Then when confronted with facts that demonstrate they are really supporting systems that result in everything they claim to hate, they can't handle it then bury their head in the sand, and get EVEN MORE extremist in a vain attempt to double down to create enough emotional noise to ignore this reality.
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November 09, 2018, 02:57:16 PM
#8
All this petty national bickering is not really relevant. The main issue is with the Eton/Oxford elite who morphed from the old British Commonwealth. They have expanded and drawn in recruits from Harvard, the Sorbonne and other universities. Never forget that Clinton was a Rhodes scholar at Oxford. The EU was created to destabilise European culture and suck wealth  and national assets out of the vassal states. It was intended to be a recruiting group for TTIP, and a much lager dominant super state. Trump and Brexit were massive shocks, and the banking elite are desperate to try to counter the tidal wave of populism that has arisen from those two upsets to their plans.

The bankers love war, and they need to find an enemy to start the destruction. Russia is the ancient enemy, and China is a more recent alternative. The radical Islamic migrants are the footsoldiers of the aspiring world rulers, and when they have served their purpose they will be eradicated as a part of the eugenics programme. I'm sure that Donald Trump is aware of this.
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November 09, 2018, 01:56:31 PM
#7
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Paul J. Manafort, Jr., of Alexandria, Va., pleaded guilty on September 14, 2018, to a superseding criminal information filed today in the District of Columbia, which includes conspiracy against the United States (conspiracy to commit money laundering, tax fraud, failing to file Foreign Bank Account Reports and Violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act, and lying and misrepresenting to the Department of Justice) and conspiracy to obstruct justice (witness tampering). A status report with regard to sentencing was scheduled for Nov. 16, 2018.


I guess the guy never lied about being a foreign agent. Nah, that's just a "lie".

Roll Eyes
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November 09, 2018, 01:54:36 PM
#6
It's really disturbing that we're still arguing this subject.  It's obviously partisan in nature.  There has been zero evidence that Trump is being blackmailed by the Russians.  There has been zero evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians, and so what if he did?  ....

I don't care what political party you affiliate with, if you are here to solve problems I'll support you.  If all you want to do is distract from solutions, and obstruct progress then you are a part of the problem.

The problem with your attitude is you think like Trump. None of the Democrats have this point of view, and only a fraction of the Republicans. Most are simply concerned with getting and maintaining power, and actually doing useful things is in their view, a distraction.

I see your point, and won't attempt to refute it.  But even a lie that's obviously a lie is likely to be believed by those who will feel vindicated by it.  If you repeat the lie often enough some who're aren't biased may even start to believe it.  
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November 09, 2018, 01:50:30 PM
#5
https://www.justice.gov/sco

ALL THE INDICTMENTS.

The Russian collusion investigation actually earned the government money via civil forfeiture.
legendary
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November 09, 2018, 01:36:43 PM
#4
I guess the trump tower meeting didn't happen.

Oh wait, it did.

This thread is just for morons sucking Trump's dick. Not for people living in reality.

With an indicting argument like that, who needs 2+ years of investigation? Back to the kids table with you, I hurry along, I hear they have butterscotch pudding! OOOOo better get some before its gone!



It's really disturbing that we're still arguing this subject.  It's obviously partisan in nature.  There has been zero evidence that Trump is being blackmailed by the Russians.  There has been zero evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians, and so what if he did?  ....

I don't care what political party you affiliate with, if you are here to solve problems I'll support you.  If all you want to do is distract from solutions, and obstruct progress then you are a part of the problem.

The problem with your attitude is you think like Trump. None of the Democrats have this point of view, and only a fraction of the Republicans. Most are simply concerned with getting and maintaining power, and actually doing useful things is in their view, a distraction.

While I agree with the OP, Spendulus does have a point here. It is kind of like religion. Maybe their religion is all people with brown hair are evil. You don't have to believe in it, but if you have brown hair, and enough people do, it still effects you. The same is true with the religion of post modernism/Marxism that has captivated the left.
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November 09, 2018, 01:18:37 PM
#3
I guess the trump tower meeting didn't happen.

Oh wait, it did.

This thread is just for morons sucking Trump's dick. Not for people living in reality.
legendary
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November 09, 2018, 12:57:51 PM
#2
It's really disturbing that we're still arguing this subject.  It's obviously partisan in nature.  There has been zero evidence that Trump is being blackmailed by the Russians.  There has been zero evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians, and so what if he did?  ....

I don't care what political party you affiliate with, if you are here to solve problems I'll support you.  If all you want to do is distract from solutions, and obstruct progress then you are a part of the problem.

The problem with your attitude is you think like Trump. None of the Democrats have this point of view, and only a fraction of the Republicans. Most are simply concerned with getting and maintaining power, and actually doing useful things is in their view, a distraction.
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November 09, 2018, 08:24:07 AM
#1
It's really disturbing that we're still arguing this subject.  It's obviously partisan in nature.  There has been zero evidence that Trump is being blackmailed by the Russians.  There has been zero evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians, and so what if he did? 

George Washington colluded with the French.  Woodrow Wilson colluded with the Russians, the French, and Britain, and so did F.D. Roosevelt.  Presidents have colluded with other countries to benefit (in their perception) Americans before this was the U.S.A.  The collusion in, and of itself means nothing without intent.  If there was collusion, what was the intent?  Again, the only collusion that seems to have ill intent was that of the DNC attempting to dig up dirt on Trump, and then making it up when they couldn't find any.

The telling thing about this most recent midterm election is how little the Democrats have to offer the American people.  Their main agenda is to stop Trump.  What they're missing is that stopping Trump means less prosperity for Americans.

I'm not a fan of Trump the person.  I voted for the Libertarian in 2016, because I thought Trump was a bag of narcissistic hot air.  I was wrong.  I can see that now, and I don't think I'm alone.  He's kept his promises, or at least he's attempted to.  Maybe he is a narcissist and a blowhard, but he's doing his job which is to serve America!

Sure, some Democrats want to fix Healthcare and Education.  I don't agree with their philosophy on these subjects, but that's OK.  That's why we have a democratic Republic, so these things can be debated rationally.  Most, however would rather focus on salacious distractions than actually solving the issues that plague this country.

Let's focus on solving some problems, and stop those who would distract us from arriving at the solutions.  Let's focus on the opioid problem.  Let's focus on the poverty and gang wars in our cities.  Let's fix the political indoctrination plaguing our education system.  Let's focus on the shrinking middle class.  Let's make our health care system great again.  Let's fix our national debt, and our unsustainable trade policies.

I don't care what political party you affiliate with, if you are here to solve problems I'll support you.  If all you want to do is distract from solutions, and obstruct progress then you are a part of the problem.
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