Topic: Russian Crypto Exchange Moves Money for Gaza Groups (Read 718 times)

So let's see, bitcoin.com, being owned by Roger Ver, self proclaimed libertarian who renounced his U.S. citizenship to be able to live more "freely"...  Hosts a hit-piece on Russia and the only organization in Palestine resisting against the Zionist occupation. Oh how the tables have turned. This is plain state-propaganda. Hamas being labeled as a terror org just makes way for Israel to keep committing genocide. Literally the Palestinians in Gaza have no other way to resist. Yes, Hamas being fond of a theocracy isn't the ideal organization to organize an armed resistance group through their paramilitaries but what can we do. They're the de facto government in Gaza, and last time the west afforded pestilential the right to have elections they were elected in a majority vote. Probably elections haven't been held since in fear of the more west-aligned PLO losing also the west bank.

Bitcoin being used for financial transactions isn't news though. Money needs to get in Gaza as well in spite of Israel's terror choke hold on these people. Money finds a way one way or the other. These people need to live. So money getting in a 40 by 10 km strip of land is just used for terror purposes? If these people were afforded equal rights by their occupying force, there wouldn't ever be a need for a Hamas or so called "money laundering". Just something to think about, but much of the western world needs to start thinking about blaming the aggressor first.

Putin's Russia orchestrated the Crocus City Hall tragedy, planning to blame it on the Ukrainians and ensure that the US Congress would no longer provide aid to Ukraine. But then in Russia they made a fatal mistake: the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation opened a criminal case for complicity in terrorism based on this fact against US congressmen and this caused the opposite effect. Trump and House Chairman Johnson quickly changed their rhetoric because of this, and on April 20, the House of Representatives voted for about $60 billion in aid to Ukraine, which Johnson had deliberately not brought to a vote since October last year.
Tomorrow, April 23, the Senate must vote on this bill, and Biden has already indicated that he will quickly sign it. NATO, in turn, also stated that they are ready to send weapons to Ukraine within a few days, which are already in European warehouses. Putin, who invested a colossal amount of money into the “congress” project, was ultimately defeated.

Recently, when Russia’s advantage in the air was one in thirty, and in shells one in ten, and even despite the fact that aviation was intensively dropping guided bombs weighing from 500 to 1,500 kilograms on the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which the Ukrainian Armed Forces simply could not resist with anything , and also with a significant superiority in manpower, the invaders slowly advanced through the ruins of the captured settlements of Ukraine. The situation should change in the near future, especially when the Ukrainian Armed Forces will have F-16s to shoot down bombers before dropping bombs. So the arrogance and imperial stupidity of Russia can play as a turning point in this war.

In addition, the US Congress also voted to confiscate the assets of the terrorist country Russia and its oligarchs collaborating with the Putin regime, and use them to help Ukraine's defense and reconstruction after the war. And although this amount is small, about 5 billion dollars, it is a precedent and a demonstrative step for Europe, where over 300 billion of Russian assets have been seized.

How do you suggest that happens? And how will the agency or framework catch those transactions when they are completely private and unknown? I know that if a transaction is done through a wallet that is linked with a KYCed account or something or a wallet that is from an exchange or other platform then it is easily traceable, but if a transaction is done from a completely unknown Bitcoin to a completely unknown Bitcoin address, there is no way for that intelligence or framework to link it to any group or anything.

It is understandable if they keep watching certain wallets that receive large transactions to see if the funds are then sent to a centralized exchange that is linked to a person as they require KYC for you to use P2P services, but I wonder what they would do if the transactions are done through different wallets and in smaller quantity, they won't be able to keep an eye on hundreds or thousands of Bitcoin wallets.

Russia has been launching missile and drone strikes across Ukraine for three years. Russian propagandists claim that they are being carried out on military targets. But it is mainly residential buildings, educational institutions, hospitals and other civil infrastructure that are being destroyed. Or maybe I’ll remind you how last winter Russia deliberately attacked Ukraine’s energy infrastructure in order to “freeze” the population and break the will to resist? Are these not terrorist attacks?
Ukraine only recently began striking military targets in Russia and oil refineries when it was able to establish its own production of drones. And even then, their power cannot be compared with the missiles that Russia constantly launches at Ukraine.

 Do you think that a real war is when missiles fly only in one direction, towards Ukraine?
And if for every hundred missiles one response arrives, is that already terrorism? More than 2,000 Russian missiles and more than 9,200 drones have been shot down over Ukrainian territory alone. How often do explosions occur in Russian cities? I think it will be fair if the Ukrainian Armed Forces try to make parity in this matter. Otherwise, Russians do not feel at all that their country has been fighting against a neighboring state for three years.

Let's then return to the events of World War II, when the USSR was attacked by Germany. Can the actions of the USSR be considered terrorism when they attacked German territory and reached Berlin, destroying populated areas on German territory and killing many German civilians?

Do you blame the Ukrainians for the tragedy at Crocus City Hall? On what basis? Because you want to?

I'll start with this part of your questions. The difference in the high civilian casualties in Palestine compared to those in Ukraine is explained primarily by the density of the living population. In Palestine it is 734 people per square kilometer, and in Ukraine there are only 80 people per square kilometer, and even that was before the Russian attack. That is, under the same conditions of shelling in Palestine, approximately ten times more civilians die due to the high population density. In addition, I saw how a multi-story building completely collapses from each missile strike on Palestinian territory. At the same time, of course, the civilian mortality rate there is very high. In Ukraine, only the entrance collapses from approximately the same impact. In my opinion, thick brick or panel/concrete houses in Ukraine are much stronger and this is explained primarily by the different climate.

Oil and its refined products constitute the main source of income for Russia and in monetary terms it is approximately 49 percent of total profits. That is, Russia receives a significant part of its profit from oil and its refined products, which are then spent on the war to seize the territory of Ukraine. In addition, gasoline and diesel are the lifeblood of military equipment. Without this fuel, Russian military equipment will be a pile of scrap metal and will not be able to ensure aggressive actions. The Ukrainian Armed Forces have long had a desire to attack Russian oil refineries, but did not have the appropriate capabilities; they appeared relatively recently, when Ukraine increased the production of its own drones. Oil and diesel are also used for civilian purposes, but the war in Ukraine is largely financed and supported by Russia through oil and its refined products.

The role of power plants in powering war cannot be compared with this role. It can be assumed that some electricity capacity is used in Ukraine for military purposes, however, in general, the generated electricity is spent on civilian consumption. But for the third year now, Russia has been striking not only at energy facilities, but also indiscriminately at housing stock, schools, and hospitals in order to simply kill more civilians and thereby intimidate them and force the Ukrainian government to stop resistance. But the terrorist country Russia will not succeed.

Muahaha as a good troll you're trying to present the situation exactly opposite to what happens in reality. In fact, Ukraine is employing the tactic of terrorism and intimidation: MLRS and battle drones are heavily used against civilian targets in Belgorod, Kursk and other Russian cities, including Moscow. I'm not even mentioning the Crocus City Hall tragedy, masterminded by the CIA and Ukrainian intelligence services.

As to the inability to turn the war in their favor, let me remind you that the "counter-offensive" of AFU ended with huge losses and no significant gains for Ukraine. Russia is attacking now all along the frontline, Ukraine is losing 1-2 towns and villages DAILY. Since the beginning of the year, AFU have lost more than 80000 troops. Most of the Western equipment had been destroyed. And you still think Ukraine is winning?    

Then explain me this: how is that possible, if Russia is attacking 97% civilian targets, why total civilian losses in Ukraine (after 3 years of war) are at least 5 times as low as civilian losses in Palestine? Last time I checked civilian losses in Ukraine were around 10k while in Gaza they have reached 50k after just a few weeks of fighting (was a while ago, perhaps even more now).

Perhaps you could also explain why you are calling power plants in Ukraine civilian targets, but at the same time you're calling oil refineries in Russia "legitimate targets" and "military targets"? What is the difference?  


Perhaps you could elaborate on this? How exactly this is going to happen?  

And they really don't have to try and persuade anyone to stop or reduce assistance because the "international community" is running out of resources they can send to Ukraine without jeopardizing their own defensive capacity.

Putin's Russia has no escape route. Putin is well aware that if his troops leave Ukraine, it will not only be the end of his more than two decades of rule, it will most likely end with his death. In Russia such mistakes are not forgiven. Unable to turn the war in his favor on the battlefield, Putin is relying on terrorism and intimidation of the Ukrainian population.

Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov, at an extraordinary meeting of the NATO-Ukraine Council on March 28, said that 97 percent of Russian strikes against targets on Ukrainian territory were against civilian infrastructure, and their total yield since the beginning of 2024 exceeded nine kilotons. Already this year, Russia has practically destroyed all large thermal power plants in Ukraine.

At the same time, Russia is looking for all possible ways to reduce the assistance provided to Ukraine by the international community. Therefore, not a single source of military tension can now exist without Russia, including the Hamas attack on Israel in October last year. Politicians bought by Russia are working all over the world like never before. And we must admit that Putin partially achieved his goal. Since October, there has been virtually no US military assistance to Ukraine. But anyway, the terrorist Putin regime will come to an end very soon.

Putin’s Russia seriously miscalculated the level of Ukrainian resistance to a large-scale attack in February 2022, as well as the amount of support for Ukraine from civilized states in its ability to defend itself from the aggressor. This has now put Russia in a very difficult position, since in the third year of one of the bloodiest wars in Europe, no global progress has been achieved. The Kremlin can no longer end this war with dignity, so it is desperately looking for ways to weaken international support for Ukraine. One of these methods is to artificially inflate military hotbeds of conflict around the world, and Russia's assistance in the Hamas attack on Israel is one of them.

According to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Russia has already lost in this war more than 412 thousand of its military personnel, 6570 tanks, 12,508 armored vehicles, 342 aircraft, 325 helicopters, 10,029 artillery systems, 1,000 MLRS, 688 air defense systems, 25 ships and boats, one submarine, more 13,000 various automotive equipment.
In the last 10 days alone, between February 17 and 27, Russia lost ten aircraft shot down: seven Su-34 fighter bombers, two Su-35 fighters, and an A-50U long-range radar reconnaissance aircraft, with a total cost of about one billion dollars.

Now Russia is attacking Ukraine along almost the entire front, stretching over a thousand kilometers, in order to show at least some military successes before Putin’s next presidential election, while suffering colossal losses in manpower and equipment. Just to capture the ruins of the small town of Avdeevka, previously home to about 30,000 residents, Russia lost more than in ten years of war in Afghanistan.

Total destabilization, where the developed West is almost guaranteed to stand up for one of the parties, and this will definitely be the victim of aggression, is beneficial to Russia and its “brothers in world terrorism.”
This is also economic pressure on the economy, primarily the United States. This is also an increase in internal contradictions both in the polycum and among the population. And the most desirable thing for Russia is the possibility of disrupting entire segments of the world economy. There were attempts to ignite the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict, but it did not work. There have been attempts, and even successful ones, at local conflicts in central Africa. Now here is Venezuela-Gaina. In the Azerbaijani-Armenian conflict, Russia merged due to open and global support for Azerbaijan from Turkey. Putin retreated because he knows perfectly well that Erdogan will not “mumble”, and if necessary, he will bomb Moscow without hesitation. In African countries, support did not come, and we see the result. Now everything depends on whether the West will provide a quick, powerful response to Maduro’s aggression. If the West is soft again, this conflict may even develop into a global conflict in South America.

Well, on topic - many exchanges have realized that Russian terrorists can use them as a mechanism for transferring funds, and are beginning to cover up the interaction. Binance announced the closure of support for P2P transactions with the ruble. Also, IT companies continue to isolate the terrorist country, and for example, the largest European data center Hetzner is closing all server rental contracts with customers from Russia in order to reduce the risks of using its sites for illegal actions on the part of Russia...

The war between Hamas and Israel has been going on for two months and is close to ending with the defeat of Hamas. By attacking Israeli territory, Hamas leaders apparently hoped that other Muslim countries would support them, but this calculation did not materialize. And without such support, Israel will quickly end Hamas.

As for Putin’s Russia, this attack was not without it. The transfer of funds to Hamas in cryptocurrency is only one of the types of assistance provided to these terrorists. Putin is interested in fomenting wars around the world in order to look less noticeable against this background with his attack on Ukraine. Apparently, the next military conflict involving Russia will soon be an attack by Venezuela on Guyana.

Russia is still trying to push for its ideologies and interests through other fronts. They will never stop doing this in order to alleviate the pressure at their doorstep and make people forget the war in Ukraine by simply helping fan the flames on other conflicts. Putin has been a major supporter of these extremists for the longest time, as he knows he can use them one way or another, and it seems that it is working as more eyes are peeled on the Gaza conflict.

It may not be Putin directly, but the mere fact that the funds came from an exchange that is governed by Russians mean that this was unchecked, or rather was let slipped, by the government.

If I gave incorrect data, that is my mistake, and it may lead to incorrect conclusions, or it may objectively cause offense, which is not a good outcome. That is why - for mistakes I, as the author of the answer, think it is necessary - to apologize.

Regarding "political fatigue" - we are not going to get away from it. Neither are we going to get away from the FACTS that are out there, whether we like them or not.
I'm not imposing anything on anyone, I'm just expressing my reasoned opinion based on facts that not everyone wants to notice or understand the cause and effect relationship.
And I say this not because I want to talk about it, but because I do not want the grief that came to my country to continue its march around the world, and such a chance is very likely. I also tell the truth about Zelensky in my country, I have long said that he and his entourage and his "puppeteers" are corrupt people who can "sell" Ukraine, which they tried to do before the Russian terrorist attack on Ukraine. So it's hard for me to attribute "one-sidedness".
In order to fight evil, we must know the truth, even if we do not like it, if the truth negatively reflects the actions of relatives, friends, sympathizers, fellow citizens, government. You cannot treat a disease without finding out and establishing, even if it is unpleasant, but an honest diagnosis!

For example, the fact in the title of the topic that Russia is the main sponsor and twin, if not "father", of world terrorism.

There's no need for you to apologize to me, I'm sick of politics... but you have to calm down your experience of the world a little. We are all human after all, and it is easy to point the finger at someone, but whose hands are clean today?

I understand why you force the same narrative in all of your posts, but you are terribly wrong when you are doing that... time will show that to you, when you get older and when you realize that your Zelensky and all his ministers are getting rich while "normal" people are dying. I was in the same situation, normal people are fucked up while the politicians and their kids are just getting richer. I would like this system to end, I would like to see people more aware of the world... but when? It's the 21st century and people still think that politicians can make something good... what a joke.

The Russia-Ukraine war showed us the reality of the extent of power of Russia.
And it is saying that they reality is they don't have that power to conquer even a small country like Ukraine.
This is why their actions are now like suicidal. They are running out of weaponry as well as soldiers.
More than likely, their economy is already down this time but their leader keeps on pushing their limits.
The funding to Gaza groups may not come a surprise because they seem to be playing a game where everyone around the world is their enemy.

First of all, I apologize, I really did. Not Serbia, but Montenegro, attempted coup d'état in 2016. Just a couple of facts to clarify the participation of the Kremlin's "puppeteers" in the preparation:
The protagonists of the coup were, according to the investigation:
- Russians linked to the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Federation;
- Serbian citizens, mostly those associated either with radical organizations or Serbian security forces;
- leaders of the Montenegrin pro-Russian opposition Democratic Front bloc.

So once again - I apologize, not in Serbia, but in Montenegro !

Regarding other things - yes, I do see that the west, with LATE, and not fully, fulfills its obligations under the Budapest Memorandum (regarding the security of Ukraine), which was violated by one of the signatories of this document. At the same time, other Western countries are helping Ukraine to restore the integrity of its borders and to restore legitimate authority to Ukrainian temporarily occupied territories. On the other hand, they understand perfectly well that if the brown plague of RASHISM is not stopped in Ukraine, this evil will go to Europe, as the Kremlin openly declares.
What is not clear to you here or looks "unnatural" or erroneous ?

PS on other countries and events, I understand you have no claims, everything is correct ?

It's inevitable that Russia will get caught doing such things. They are getting their ass kicked by their neighbor, in a completely unnecessary war, where hundreds of thousands of their soldiers have been killed and wounded - plus large parts of their most advanced equipment have been wiped out. Now they are left trying to fund Islamic extremists who would target Russia in two seconds as infidels, because they don't hold the same values at all. It is the most desperate of actions by Putin, a man who has ran out of tricks to pull out of his hat, which was empty a long time ago. The biggest mistake Putin made was shattering the illusion that Russia was powerful, it is a shambles of a country getting poorer by the day and making enemies for no reason except one mans greed.

Serbia? Links in one chain? You talk too much, and most of your talking is just trolling... you are shilling for your country and you are ready to step on all others who are not on your side.

I'm not sure why you mention Serbia again, I already told you once that you should come here and get to know Serbia before you start talking nonsense about something you know nothing about.


Do you really think that the West is investing in stabilization? Are you joking? Just because you get their money it doesn't mean they are good... I think you mixed something here, you should open your mind a bit more and stop shilling for the Western countries like they are supreme countries without any sins.

African countries, Serbia, Israel, Guyana... These are all links in one chain. The goal of all this is global world destabilization on all continents. The global goal is for the Western world to be unable to maintain peace, democracy, and respect for human values. Destroying is always a thousand times easier than creating. Destroyers do not adhere to laws and regulations. Creators are forced to follow rules and restrictions. That is why Russia considers Hamas its friends and provides them with technical, financial, and advisory support, as well as providing them with intelligence data and other diverse assistance. And it will use any means for this - the Russian regime is not bound by the implementation of norms and laws.

Therefore, the Russian regime has chosen a tactic - we will invest 1 million in destruction, the West will be forced to invest billions in stabilization. Let me remind the world that it is not the manifestations of the disease that need to be treated, but its root. Do not spend billions on restoration, but simply destroy the source of financing for the destruction.

It is useless to negotiate with Putin's Russia. They understand only force and nothing but force. Any calls for negotiations in Russia are perceived as a sign of weakness and a reason to increase military pressure. At the same time, the Kremlin’s calls for negotiations are only being conducted there in order to have time and the opportunity to regroup and prepare for new attacks. At the same time, Russia does not adhere to any previous agreements. This was clearly demonstrated by Russia’s war in Ukraine. For such a threat to disappear, it must also be eliminated by force. Unfortunately, there are no other options.
Now Russia is trying to fan the flames of war around the world in order to distract the world community from attention to its war in Ukraine.

Regarding Israeli assistance to Ukraine - yes and no.

If we talk about the government program and support for Ukraine, yes, I agree, there was virtually no help. Before the Hamas attack on Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu adhered to a completely pro-Russian position and minimized assistance to Ukraine, especially in terms of weapons.
“an excellent example” - Ukraine, subject to constant terrorist missile attacks from Russia, on Ukrainian peaceful cities and civilians, has requested air defense/missile defense systems. The answer was “we won’t give anything, we ourselves need it critically.” Moreover, just a couple of days ago, when Israel is under constant rocket fire, we learned... “Israel sold the David’s Sling missile defense system abroad for the first time. A historic agreement was signed with Finland.
The agreement is valued at approximately 317 million euros.
David's Sling is one of the world's leading systems for intercepting advanced threats, including ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, aircraft and drones with a range of up to 300 km. The system has demonstrated highly effective capabilities in an ongoing war in various complex scenarios." That is, it turns out:
- before the Hamas attack on Israel - “we really really need it ourselves and can’t sell it to you”
- after the attack and the ongoing attack “no question, we’ll sell it... Only to Finland”

On the other hand, the population of Israel helps very well with donations and assistance to volunteers. For example, we purchase cars for the front line, collecting assistance on our group’s card accounts. So, approximately 20% of help comes from Israelis, directly or through their relatives/friends here in Ukraine.
I can add to this - Israeli special services help Ukraine with intelligence data and other “classified information”, and there is an assumption that bypassing the prohibitions of the Israeli government... This is done through “third countries”, but this data is very important for us.

If we return to the Hamas terrorist attack on Israel, Russian support, financing and consultations are very clearly visible. The idea was most likely not only to divert the world’s attention from the war in Ukraine, but also to “quickly resolve the oil issue” - a global war in the region = a guaranteed increase in oil prices. Without huge demand for oil, Russia cannot fill its budget with money. The third goal is the expected unrest in the EU. Destabilizing the EU is one of the Kremlin’s key tasks, because Germany, France and some other countries are moving away from the Kremlin’s influence. Well, plus a certain symbol - “unification of anti-Western, anti-Zionist countries”, building a “new union”, etc. showing off. But... The Russian-Iranian terrorist scenario again did not go according to plan... And now the global destruction of Hamas and other “lap dogs” of international terrorists is at stake, which is why there are so many squeals and hysterics regarding allegedly “illegal actions of Israel”

Russia's crypto exchange funding Hamas is not unusual because America is funding Israel just as Russia is funding Hamas, support or not The important thing to do that both sides should try to stop the war together and pray that because Bitcoin digital currency can help in many ways. We should actually call a stop to the war and sit the two sides together and decide it should be our responsibility then the common people will be saved from death and the world will have a better world.

Israel helped Ukraine very little after the full-scale attack on it by Putin’s army, which is why the Israeli government has been criticized more than once by the Ukrainian government.

Russia knew about the upcoming Hamas attack on Israeli territory and  provide this terrorist organization with all possible assistance for this reason. Putin needed to divert the attention of the world community from his unsuccessful war with Ukraine, as well as weaken military assistance to Ukraine from the United States and European countries.

But I don’t think that the Hamas leaders, if they are still alive, are happy that they followed Russia’s lead and attacked Israel. Now the IDF is destroying Hamas and has already stated that Hamas has lost control of the Gaza Strip. Russia used Hamas to its advantage and now Hamas is being completely destroyed. Hamas apparently counted on military support from other Islamist states, but this calculation did not materialize.

https://www.geo.tv/amp/514734-israel-hamas-war-adult-star-mia-khalifas-video-income-frozen-for-supporting-palestine

According to the excerpt from the news site, it didn't say anything about Mia Khalifa wanting to send funds to Hamas, rather it states that Pornhub froze her earnings based on her public support for Hamas, and that Pornhub is going to send her funds to help the Isreali people.

As someone that's resident in the US, I don't think she will be that dumb to send funds to Hamas that's been labelled as a terrorist group by the United states and other nations because she will be charged for financing a terrorist organization and she could end up in jail.

Mia Khalifa supported Hamas. Hamas is officially recognized as TERRORIST, which means it has no right to exist. This also means that any attempts to support this terrorist organization are illegal. And let Mia Khalifa thank PornHub for not allowing her to transfer money to terrorists, since after that she would have officially come under criminal prosecution for financing terrorism, with all the ensuing consequences. So even if she sues her employer, at best nothing will happen to her (Mia Khalifa), all other scenarios are punishment for Mia Khalifa for trying to support terrorism

The decentralization, anonymity and convenience offered by Bitcoin do have a positive impact for ordinary users, but also have a negative impact if used for criminal purposes. Bitcoin has long been used by criminal groups to finance their operations, not only by Hamas, but also Russia, North Korea, America, etc. There have been many cases of using Bitcoin for terrorist acts, drugs, etc., and it seems that this will continue in the future because only Bitcoin allows them to make transactions securely and anonymously.

I think there are a much bigger picture being missed here....

The enemies of the USA know that the USA are always rushing in to help, where ever there are conflict in the world. The assistance normally come in the form of financial or humanitarian help or weapons and ammunition to help in the war. So, what we have here is a situation where the USA are helping in the Ukraine and Israel and they gave more than $1 Trillion to Afghanistan. (USA basically funded the "Iron Dome" in Israel)

What does this do to the military power and economy of the USA? This aid are weakening the USA and his enemies are getting stronger. By the time when WWIII happens, USA will be much weaker from fighting and aiding in other countries.  

Honestly there are both sides that does things for wrong reasons. Did you know that Mia Khalifa (the porn actress) wanted to use all her pornhub income for helping Hamas and the company rejected it and froze her account and gave all that money to IDF (Israel military).

You could support Palestine, you could support Israel, this isn't regarding the war, but this is about freedom and if you want to help someone you can help that person. It is your money and if you are charged with funding terrorists then you will be charged with it by a judge, not by a company and if the company freezes your account and doesn't let you use your money, then I am sorry  but that's illegal and I really do hope that Khalifa would sue them for every penny they have.

I don't get this double standards. If we want decentralized cryptocurrency where no one will be able to seize someone's funds, then we have to both agree that such currency can be both, used for good and for bad. We can't have a decentralized but centralized platform at the same time, it's just impossible, you can't create a magical knife that will only cut bread but will not cut human's flesh.

Does the honored public know that the Hamas terrorist group's website is hosted in ... Russia? The womb of world terrorism ! Are you really surprised?
This terrorist propaganda dump is hosted on the Russian hosting VDSina, which is located in Moscow.....
And everyone can check it !


For reference: Hamas has been declared a terrorist organization by Canada, UK, Australia EU, Israel, Japan and USA, and banned in Jordan and Egypt. Saudi Arabia banned the Muslim Brotherhood in 2014 and recognized it as a terrorist organization

That said:
Russia does not classify Hamas as a terrorist organization, considers it a legitimate partner for negotiations, Hamas leaders have repeatedly visited Moscow at the invitation of President Putin.

The unprovoked attack by Hamas and its partners on Israel has brought so much pain and death to many people. Children have become orphans and the death of many children is heartbreaking. These armed groups shouldn't receive any funds from any country because it will keep fueling this crisis. Sadly, this is one of the disadvantaged of privacy and decentralization There was an earlier report that Binance has frozen some funds that belongs to Palestine.
This news was reported by the World Street Journal and many people might claim that it might be part of the media war going on between Russia and the West. Even the conflict between Israel and Gaza has also become a propaganda war that one needs to verify from different sources before believing the news. But if it turns out to be true then Russia should stop such support because Gaza doesn't need money anymore. What is needed now is food, medicines, water, power and peace.

And can you make the "Israel created Hamas" argument ?
I, for example, know from Soviet times that the USSR was very supportive of Palestine and Hamas. And in general, the USSR positioned itself as the key figure who created Israel, but then actively took all measures not to destroy Israel, but to cripple it. Remember at least the Six Day War (מלחמת ששת הימים, Milhemet Sheshet ha-Yamim). Where the USSR was one of the "sponsors of the project" and its special forces were directly involved in the attack on Israel.

Yes, I agree that by the end of the Afghan war, which was launched by the USSR, the USSR even quarreled with the brotherly Hamas and Hamas began to fight against the USSR. Today's USSR, Russia, does not recognize Hamas as a terrorist group and has close and friendly ties.

That is why the news of Russia funding Hamas does not surprise me at all. I would be surprised if Russia didn't fund Hamas

PS And yes - please still dedicate to the topic "ISRAEL created Hamas" ?

After the Islamic Jihad group received the money, I suppose they use the fund to buy weapon, so if they use Crypto the fund would be traceable to where they would buy their weapon, and the trace is public. It could be a bad sentiment for crypto, but if the WSJ could also trace who is supplying the weapon for the group, this could proof that cryptocurrency could also used to reveal all the bad guys involved.

What surprised me when reading this news is what benefit this financial support in crypto has to a besieged group like the fighting groups in the Gaza Strip. The people there, including the fighters, need the basics of life, such as drinking water, food supplies, medicines, and blankets... I mean, assuming that if the fighters were able to transfer these assets to cash, how would they be able to use them? Even consumables awaiting permission to enter are in the form of support and no financial compensation is required for them. All weapons and military equipment also come in the form of aid from allied countries through tunnels and secret passages. According to my understanding, the only hypothesis is that these assets are gifts and donations to the fighters that they will spend if they succeed in victory.

Should we trust western media when they make such claims?
The Wall Street Journal is operated by Rupert Murdoch and we all know what this guy's economic interests are.
It is in his best interest to support the United State's status quo. As we saw that western media were very quick to jump to conclusions against Palestine like when they were spreading the story about beheaded babies with no evidence and while it had already been disproven, it's logical that they'd want to put Russia in the same bag.

Do these news outlets say anything when billions of unaccounted dollars are moved through the SWIFT system by senators for insider trading? Absolutely no. But suddenly when an exchange is used for its intended purpose, transacting crypto, it's all Russia's fault. In fact there's hundreds of crypto exchanges domiciled in western countries too that could virtually be doing the same, but nobody bats an eye about these...

Well, the fact that Russia sponsors terrorists, and this is just the tip of the iceberg - thank you for confirming

I previously explained about crypto, fiat and “fighters against global capitalism”, and I will repeat once again - the recipients of cryptocurrency on the side of terrorist groups are smart people. They will not run to kill Israelis or blow themselves up near a checkpoint. They love and appreciate life. And comfort. And pleasure. Therefore, they will give a small part of the money to provide weapons to idiots and brainwash them, and these smart people will take the majority of the money for themselves and convert it into fiat money. Because they won’t be sold a villa or a beautiful car for bitcoins, they won’t be served in an expensive restaurant, they won’t be sold an expensive suit and watch... That’s why the points where crypto turns into fiat are controlled.

Hold on, wasn't it all over the news that Hamas was created by Israel? How come it's the Russians now that support these Hamas?  

Crazy stuff that they sanctioned the BTC address of Hamas containing less than $30 in it which its last transaction was last year of May. So this is how Elizabeth Warren could actually ban BTC in the US which could be possible also abroad. It's such bad timing but I think this is where Gary Gensler can make an excuse that spot ETF will not be granted.

I haven't seen outright attempts to "vilify" cryptocurrencies, on the part of governments, by presenting them solely as a terrorist financing mechanism. The state introduces restrictive measures to prevent such steps. It's like restricting the advertising and sale of alcohol and tobacco, if that's more pleasant to perceive
But once again I repeat - most of the entities around us, unfortunately, can be used both for the benefit of people and against them, and there is a need for forced control, and some restrictive measures...

Muahaha governments want to believe they control and supervise crypto, in reality they don't control shit. What they see is just the tip of the iceberg: accounts and wallets reported by exchanges and banks. That's why they're trying to enforce KYC and similar procedures on crypto users. Fortunately, as long as you're not going to convert to fiat and withdraw, your coins are safe.

Even if it's true, bitcoin is nothing but a tool. If anything, we should condemn the exchange that helps terrorist groups and not focus on bitcoin. If they were sending USD to terrorists, would that be such a big deal? I feel like the tag Bitcoin combined with words that have negative connotations like launderers, dealers, terrorists, smugglers and hackers is chosen by the media on purpose, to create a negative image of bitcoin. They're brainwashing the masses.

If you think it doesn't bring a bad name to the cryptocurrency then I want to disagree because governments try to convince people that cryptocurrencies are used by criminals only so if we are going to accept that cryptocurrency used by here then we are also accepting the fact crypto funds used to finance terrorism.

My question still stands, what the Hamas can buy with that 93 Million even if this true? Are they going to buy weapons on blackmarket to fight against Israel and USA? Not possible at all and Israel - Palestine conflict has a 100-year history so considering one event is not a reason to take down innocent lives on Gaza too.

I don't know what is really on Putin's mind, he officially stated his support for Gaza but until now this support has not been explicitly intended to support Hamas, I don't really like war, and the war between Hamas and Israel is purely a war of interests, with one exchange originating from Russia helping fund Hamas, I'm sure there will be other FUD that will be spread by those who don't like cryptocurrencies.

I just found out that in Gaza there is a fundamentalist group, the majority of which are Hamas fighters. This is a sign that Hamas is also using digital/crypto currency as a source of economic revival among Hamas fighters in Gaza, I just realized now that it is natural that currently the missiles and weapons used by Hamas to attack Israel come from several foreign countries.

Before I saw this news, I had time to think where the economy that Hamas gets is so big, no doubt 5000 missiles have been flown, These missiles require millions of dollars to own, it's no surprise that the $93 million in funds obtained from several exchanges in Russia is extraordinary.

If what I just read in the Op is true, I am not too surprised by the actions of Russian Crypto exchanges moving money to Gaza groups because there is an element of resentment between Russia and Israel. Russia's anger led by Putin towards Israel began when Russia invaded Ukraine. Israel, which supported and helped Ukraine, made Russia side with Palestine or the Hamas group in the dispute between Palestine and Israel. Russia has openly supported Palestine, Putin is ready to help Palestine with everything they need to launch an attack on Israel, including sending soldiers and sophisticated war equipment.

While the Israel-Palestine situation is pretty complex, the Russian exchange's act doesn't seem surprising at all. Russia has been friends with Iran, as Iran is supplying a lot of drones which Russia uses against Ukraine. Iran has strong ties with Hamas and endorsed the Hamas attack openly. I hope Estonia will look into Russian businesses doing deeply problematic stuff, though. As an EU and NATO country, it should take such things seriously.
Hopefully, the world is aware enough about cryptos and crypto businesses nowadays that such an unfortunate situation won't be pointed out seriously as an argument against Bitcoin.

After all, cryptocurrencies like all other tools and products, were created to be used and serve our lives. As for whether it is used in war or smuggling transactions, that is human behavior, not the fault of cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency is not created just to use it for evil purposes, those who are trying to blame crypto in this case are stubborn and stupid.

But @jrrsparkles, you are quite agitated that no one is at fault in this case. It's just that people are discovering that cryptocurrencies are also being used in warfare.

This gonna create diplomatic conflicts for sure. It was approved by US treasury? Man, that’s gonna hit very hard to them and let me guess they will come up nice cover up story for the same. But considering the fact that it’s in crypto sphere not even sure if this news will be talked on the reputed news channel. They might just suppress it at some corner. Because just read it again it’s bunch of countries that are involved in it and bunch of locations hopping around that exchange. This is definitely spurious practice and funding money to terrorists based country is direct proof of funding the terrorists itself. The amount that was transacted is also pretty huge that means things gonna escalate soon.

No one points to cryptocurrency as a “reason” or “to blame.” The problem with cryptocurrency, like many GOOD solutions, is that such solutions have “two sides of the coin.” And this is the possibility of using cryptocurrency in uncontrolled operations to finance anti-human, terrorist and other illegal regimes/organizations. And this is one of the key nuances due to which cryptocurrency is under serious control and supervision.

That's not necessarily a negative thing, if you side with the US and Israel then you will think that using cryptocurrency to serve terrorists (this is what Israel calls hamas). But if you are on the side of the Palestinian people (innocent people), you will see that it is a miracle of crypto because if they use other traditional methods, they will face many difficulties. But if we ignore the aspect of supporting which side, we will see how cryptocurrencies bring great benefits, something that no banking system can do.

It's very easy to verify that I'm right.
Try these 3 simple questions:
- when did MASS migration from the EU countries begin and who became the MAIN receiving parties? Who was the ruler of these countries at this time?
- What is the scale of migrants in key EU countries, for example in dynamics from 1980 to 2022
- Why don’t migrants from Muslim (Africa/Middle East) countries go to their “familiar” countries, which are close in religion and culture, and have a high standard of living? And why are such countries very reluctant, or rather do not accept such migrants at all?

And you will understand that this is a well-planned, prepared and focused project.

Now, this is another negative feedback for crypto because of these terrorism funding. We're all against these wars and this only shows that many lives will be taken with these money that came from money laundering.

I do understand that it can be a misleading tactic from whoever funds it and to point the blame but if it's proven, it's unacceptable to fund these attacks. These will take away lives of money and whether it's a diversion tactic, many innocent people have been affected and sacrificed by this nonsense war.

In these instances, Bitcoin or crytocurrency has an advantage that Fiat cannot. This is the thing that most people do not see in the concept of Bitcoin or crypto. It is not discussed here whether Russia did it right or wrong; the point is that the digitalization of cryptocurrency is actually used in times when some thought it was impossible to happen.

But because of the blockchain technology that we have, they are able to provide help, and I think whatever Russia's reason is, they will decide that, and we can't do anything about it.

No it is not, that is unacceptable for most. Gaza terrorists made a surprise attack killing hundreds of civilians in less than a day, then they sent them a boasting $93 million for what? for support of terrorism? it would be much acceptable if this hasn't come thru crypto exchange, we know how this is going down to a big issue. The entire country is under siege, cutting necessities to Palestine, do you know where that $93 million is going? to the black market ofc.
This is not because of cryptocurrency, this is simply because Russia is putting some fuel to this ongoing war. I hate to believe that this is going to be an all out war, perhaps going onto much bigger war.

Frankly, I'm not surprised Russia is doing everything to piss off the US, because the US are literally fighting Russia in Ukraine via proxy.

Meanwhile Israel's bloody attacks on Palestine, including the outrageously brutal attack on a Baptist hospital in Gaza are officially labelled as war crimes by the UN:

"As the world watches with bated breath, a devastating scenario unfolds in the Middle East, with the United Nations Commission branding Israel’s disproportionate attacks on gas facilities as war crimes."

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/un-labels-israel-s-attacks-as-war-crimes-amid-escalating-conflict/ar-AA1iiRAx

 

Russia is a complete mess right now, but still trying to cause mayhem wherever they can. They cannot do anything to help Syria on the ground any more, so want to keep the middle east unstable. Higher oil prices would also be a geopolitical win for them, as oil is one of the few things that the country can produce relatively easy and make money on, plus it would give them a negotiating point with some countries. It's no surprise that they are funding people that are looking to cause chaos, people who could potentially try to hit America and Europe right now, because they have few other options to strike back. There may even be some expected strings to the money, but they may also regret helping Israel's enemies as they don't like to be manipulated either.

What you are saying can be true, but i really doubt the mass migration. Why does the EU want to have such people in their country whose cultural difference is so high that it's hard to convince them all in most of the common topic? These migrated people turn into hostile neighbors and cause instability in the whole continent. So why is it in their best interest? I know the past war in the west causes shortages of manpower in many countries but letting people of Asian origin be a better choice than middle Eastern people, as asian origin people don't share the same culture but most of them are friendly in nature towards new cultural changes.

I believe this is something to cover or make it real that Hamas used the firearms that were actually sent to Ukraine to fight against the Russian invasion.

Okay, let's accept Russia gave 93 million to the Gaza terrorist organization but what they are going to do with that when the entire country is under siege and not to forget that Israel cut down the food, water, and electricity supply already.

Whenever governments need a reason to put the blame they just point it towards cryptocurrency.

Easier said than done. Although it would be possible to create a global framework but it might not be easy as we are thinking. Crypto is very decentralized in nature and that alone make it more difficult to regulate due to lack of central authority to control it. I read somewhere that some countries like Korea, japan and also some international organizations like financial action task force are already working on creating global standard for crypto but there's nothing to write home about it yet. The task is still far from reaching a concrete resolution.

Moreover, this issue of crypto regulation is a very complex and complicated issue because it will actually help to check and control the illicit activities but on the other hand, it will also reduce the potential of crypto and make it lose the uniqueness.

The reason you stated is ONE of several.
The Middle East is a very unstable region, which, in case of a "fire", will affect the whole world, and very negatively.
The second reason: negative impact on the region and as a consequence - negative impact on oil supplies to the world market, where things are already not very good.
Third: destabilization of the EU through riots "thanks" to migrants, and worsening social and economic "temperature" in the EU.  It seems to me that the process of mass flow of refugees into the EU is a "man-made" project. At the same time, some rulers of some EU countries (guess who it is ? it is not difficult ) played into the hands of someone who planned it. Such an influx of "ballast" (no offense, but this is a correct description of the role of mass migrants in the EU) allows to solve a lot of problems:
- it is a great resource for "show of the people"
- it is an excellent resource for manipulation and pressure on the budget of the countries that received this huge number of migrants.
- It is a "fifth column" that supports quite aggressive groups and alliances.
- It is a "biomass" that can be manipulated in any way.
And "old Europe" is already barely pulling this load of "moral tolerance", and the prospects are getting worse.
Fourth - ....

Perhaps we will learn a lot more about what is happening, but it will be a little later

That's the risk of crypto which makes every government concerned. Terrorism financing! By nature, crypto can be used for such illicit activities and this news surely proves that there's a risk and why a global crypto framework is needed.

I know a lot of people would disagree with me but there's no denying of the fact the privacy cryptos can indeed be used for terrorism financing with leaving a trace. EU is facing a grave crisis and if the crypto is being used to finance the terrorist activities, it needs to stop. Now it was from Russia, tomorrow, it can come from Iran and day after tomorrow, it will come from Jordan. There's no known way to stop this!

A global framework and intelligence agency to curb illegal crypto transactions has become a necessity. 

I think this was done intentionally to move the world's focus from Russia-Ukraine to the Middle East. The military aid ukraine was getting will be reallocated to israel as USA will always protect israel no matter what. Iran can also be involved, as saudi was trying to make a agreement with israel to stop the expansion of Israel's settlements in the west bank and specify a border for Palestinian authority there. So much is happening in the middle east right now and who knows, it might initiate a new war front.

Yes, it's true, regardless of whether it's good or bad, they use crypto to finance a war, but the presence of crypto really does provide comfort in terms of security.

I've also read the news, why do so many parties want to block Hamas' bank accounts? Even though this is unfair, while they (Israel) are being helped by America, Hamas is not allowed to be helped by anyone. Where do the rules for war come from? Why doesn't the UN do anything as a function of protecting and making peace between those at war? So it's only natural that Hamas uses blockchain technology to receive aid because if you use a bank account you will automatically be found out and your account will be frozen.

I just recently read this CNN article which discusses how cryptocurrency/bitcoin are being used to fund Hamas. Now I'm completely and utterly against war for the most part (unfortunately there are times where war is a necessary evil) but this does show how helpful /useful bitcoin/cryptocurrency can be.  I know it's being used for a negative thing here, but that doesn't take away the fact that it's providing legitimate utility here.

Here's the article, I highly recommend reading it - https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/us/hamas-funding-crypto-invs

This is still an allegation but the allegation is very possible, and as we all know it, Russia may pretend on the surface but whom the US supports is what they will against.

There are many allegations from different quarters that Gaza is raising funds through cryptocurrency and I will not doubt this much since cryptocurrency is porous, it's a very good opportunity for illicit flow as well, which has been my concern ever since and my need to always support more regulation in the crypto space.

No matter how they gather it for Gaza, it can't help much other than finding a lasting solution to the war. Hamas should have rethought their decision before waking a sleeping lion with violence.

Error. It was not Putin's Russia that became a terrorist country, it was the USSR that developed the concept of world terrorism, put it into practice, and Russia only inherited these "achievements". There is nothing surprising or unexpected in this news. Believe me - there is still a lot of interesting news about the scriptwriters of this massacre in Israel, and the word "Russia" will be more and more often. Already now there is evidence that there were weapons, specialists and "consultants" and I do not exclude that intelligence about the IDF was also betrayed to terrorists from the hands of Russian intelligence. Now I'm talking to acquaintances who are in Israel, they say a lot of very "interesting" finds are made and received from captured terrorists. But the Kremlin's bastard Netanyahu will probably try to hide or classify it. But hopefully the truth will be available

Putin’s Russia has long become a terrorist state that supports terror and destabilization of peace throughout our planet. This is one of the few states that constantly creates the image of an external enemy for its citizens and thus mobilizes them to unite around the existing government, and thus this government stays afloat for a long time. Therefore, Russia cannot exist without wars with its neighbors.

The Hamas attack on Israel would hardly be so powerful if it were not supported by today's Russia, which needs to distract its people and the peoples of the world from military failures on the Ukrainian front, try to discredit Ukraine and deprive it of international assistance. But these attempts will still become obvious over time and boomerang on Russia itself. In this case, Israel will clearly not forgive Russia for providing assistance to Hamas.

Russian Exchange Allegedly Transfers Millions in Crypto for Fundamentalists in Gaza


Islamic Jihad, a Palestinian extremist organization active in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, has received part of a $ 93 million payment through a Russian cryptocurrency exchange called Garantex, the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reported.

The company, originally registered in Estoniabut headquartered in Moscow,was sanctionedby the U.S. Treasury Department in April 2022 as part of measures to prevent Russian efforts to evade financial restrictions imposed over the invasion of Ukraine.

The crypto trading platform allegedly processed illicit transactions from the ransomware group Conti and darknet market Hydraas well. It was also used to launder money for Russia’s largest crypto pyramid scheme, Finiko,and raise funds for the Russian far-right paramilitary unit Rusich.source