Topic: Russian war end goal seems like just west taking the russian assets (Read 130 times)

The war is an economic restructuring tool, not only about land or ideology. You think Putin is separate from the financial system? No leader at that level runs without background deals. The fact that Western financial giants were making rounds in Russia before the war should raise questions. Global capital acts in results; it does not play sides.


Sanctions: Seizes? All that is simply redistribution under a different name. Who gains from this? Not the citizens. Russia's oligarchs moved their riches rather than lost it. The West absorbed rather than stole assets. And Moscow? Putin is not objecting to world finance. He is engaged, on a different route.

The actual change is about where wealth is being directed, not about who owns it. Wars change the distribution of assets. Always have. Always will.

To be honest, the "enemy" is usually helpful. Governments lose control narratives without an enemy. People still believe this cycle is about nationalism or ideology even if it keeps running back-off. It addresses flow. The typical individual gets taxed, drafted, and told it's for the greater good; money transfers, power changes.

This is probably the craziest idea about the reasons for Russia's attack on Ukraine that I have ever heard. Now these more than $300 billion of Russian money that were in foreign bank accounts are frozen and the profits from their placement are used to provide aid to Ukraine to repel Russian aggression, including the purchase of weapons for Ukraine. The possibility of transferring the frozen money from Russia as reparations for Ukraine is being discussed. And what, in fact, is Putin's personal benefit from this disgrace with the frozen money of Russia, other than his personal disgrace as the leader of this state?

I think the solution here is quite simple. There have never been cases of foreign money being taken away from an aggressor country. They were frozen for a period of time, but not confiscated. Moreover, in Russia they could not even imagine that this would happen to their money. After all, in Russia, on the contrary, it was customary to threaten everyone for any reason and this was perceived by the international community as a common thing. Therefore, the simplest and most plausible explanation for this situation is that Russia, as always, confidently hoped that they would get away with everything and quickly seize Ukraine before the world reacted to it, and then the Kremlin-appointed government in Ukraine would itself assure the rest of the countries that everything was fine in Ukraine. But everything did not go according to Putin's plan. And now Putin must choose between a bad and a very bad decision regarding the war he unleashed. And this personally threatens him with great danger.

You know, sometimes the most obvious answer is actually just the correct answer. Putin started this war because he wanted a warm water port (Crimea), that he took back in 2014. However he got greedy and decided he wanted the mineral rich east of Ukraine as well, but he overstretched and did not expect there to be so much resistance when he tried to invade the whole of Ukraine. Now we are here, 3 years later with the first war in Europe since World War 2, stuck in a quagmire with countless people dying every day because he won't back down. The sooner Putin is dead, the quicker this war can end or at least change - now it has become his defining legacy as he threw everything else away that Russia had.

I don't get it UN seems like to act more like some judge and talking about cease fires and humanitarian pauses and then contining again.
UN acting more like judge who watching the game more like it all look like game for them while people die and suffering UN don't talk about any peace but instead of that you can see russian goverment people attent often there and just talking.

But maybe the wars are created in order to make people struggling so they don't dream about good life or luxury so they will be better condioned to serve wealthy elite.
So once you get out of war horror you never dream about higher wages or luxury but all you want is peace and simple food and working, i think that's what the elite including putin want to do to train people again to have lower life standards Life standards was too good but who gona work hard ? And serve well the elite If life is good ? So i guess they have to bring down the level of life standard so people will be more powerless and more willing to serve and working for lower wages all around the world
and this west took russian assets is just way to steal russian money without blaming any of russian goverment rulers and making people go against current elite in russia
Follow the money and see how things moving you could see more finally ukraine seems like just the END reason where all the money end up.

once again.

USA ends up Panama to and including Canada


Putin carves up Europe


China gets most of Asia.

Putin, Trump and Jinping do a handshake deal.

also USA goes back to old rules and Trump can be elected again and again Like FDR was in the 1930's and 1940's


Sounds wild but there is a strong possibility this could happen

You could be right. Most at times the governments doesn't tell the public the truths about the war they keep fighting now and then, they rather prefer to inflict their individual political beefing affairs with the public so that it'd seem to be public crisis.
Then the public would have no just choice than join the wars in fighting to defend themselves believing it was right for them to fight.
But one thing I know is that small countries are being manipulated and rigged by bigger country just to get some revenues out of them.
We can imagine the Ukraine and the Russian war, Russians beating Ukraine and the US stood with the Ukraine, what's the intention of the US if not to rebel the Ukraine with the name of helping them out from Russians? Why don't the UN hold a strategy to end the war once and for all instead of fuelling the war?
Just lot of things cooking behind we the masses don't know which our government wouldn't let us know the reality.

Sad but beautiful, on point answer, Darker45.

Why not, the OP can be right, the same as someone stating that Putin is an extra-terrestrian. We are flooded by information but we lack real knowledge, and in this situation we are prone to invent theories about perhaps possible, but most of the times improbable scenarios.

At this time, I prefer not to consume "stories", at the price of not being informed about things that could be interesting. But the price in disinformation is too high the little knowledge I gain with these "news".

putin. is training trump . now trump wants panama canal and canada.

i am thinking trumps end game is the usa begins at panama and goes,to the north pole.

he turns his back on europe  tells putin have fun while he carves up all of north and central america for the 🇺🇸 usa 🇺🇸

We, the ordinary people, are taking information from third parties. As a matter of fact, we don't have information; we only have hearsays. As such, we actually don't know what's really happening beneath the surface. So we're speculating, we develop theories, we're guessing. As to the real story, it's beyond our access. And so we only have pointless talks here. But, well, as always with humans, it's about power and assets. It's about greed. In the process, ordinary people, innocent children, vulnerable citizens are killed.

Any disease can be treated in 2 ways: do nothing (including mystical rituals, prayers, etc. nonsense) and taking drugs that actually destroy harmful bacteria. “Russian World” is just a cancerous tumor of the modern world. And the cure against this disease is only one - force and weapons!  Which is very effectively shown by the AFU for the last 2 years.
Well, and do not forget that it was the U.S., were the key guarantor of the territorial value of Ukraine, after the signing of the Budapest Memorandum.

PS in 2025 you, unexpectedly for you, believing in the stability and strength of the economy of Russia, you will learn that there introduced grocery cards

Bro , politics is politics and we could not understand the real ideas of politicians because they always try to rober with the small country and to the poor public. Every country should should be strong from defensive point of view and after no country will attack on that , otherwise every super power will try to rober on that . Russia is also trying make their economy at top because they want their future best but I think they are successful in their mission because USA also interrupted in this War and USA also cleaned their hands . Russia is searching for the resources but now there should be peace but that is not possible because on International level nobody is taking action in the side of Ukraine.If USA will not supply weapons then there will be sign that they are against the War but they also want War.

West taking russian assets it could be just the way and reason why Putin started war why not maybe Putin is one of them the one reason to start war was just to transfer russians wealth in to hands of Western bankers as everything in this world are in their hands and Putin might be just one of them. Dont forget that before the war exacly the JP Morgan jamie dimon and blackstone visited russia and started wealth deals.
Well maybe it's all just one big game to plunder people as always and Putin might be just the paid puppet.