Topic: RX 580 Sapphire Pulse vs Nitro for Ethereum Mining (Read 1938 times)
The main difference between these GPUs is that Nitro edition has much more efficient cooling system. Mining performance is equal. Nitro is good especially in summer time when Pulse edition may be overheated.
I am managing some rigs for some colleagues and I have been dealing with both version of cards. There are only 2 main differences between these two cards and I will show you right now.
The Nitro+ version has better cooling, I have 1 rig of Pulse and 1 of Nitro+ in the same room with same ambient conditions and same fan speed, the temperature of Nitro+ is lower which means this card has better cooling.
The Nitro+ also have a slightly higher clock rate as a stock although both 8 Gb cards can be pushed to 1400 mhz as core clock if you want but electricity bill will be high then.
I think that spending a few extra bucks for Nitro+ is worth in the long run.
The Nitro+ version has better cooling, I have 1 rig of Pulse and 1 of Nitro+ in the same room with same ambient conditions and same fan speed, the temperature of Nitro+ is lower which means this card has better cooling.
The Nitro+ also have a slightly higher clock rate as a stock although both 8 Gb cards can be pushed to 1400 mhz as core clock if you want but electricity bill will be high then.
I think that spending a few extra bucks for Nitro+ is worth in the long run.
Mining BTC with CPU isn't possible but you can try mining some CPU based altcoins, below is list of CPU coins
Primecoin [XPM]
MemoryCoin [MMC]
Quarkcoin [QRK]
QubitCoin [Q2C]
Datacoin [DTC]
Riecoin [RIC]
Chaincoin [CHC]
FairQuark [FRQ]
Frozen [FZ]
Protoshares [PTS]
SecureCoin [SRC]
Your Alternate Currency [YAC]
Darkcoin [DRK]
Vertcoin [VTC]
C-Note [CNOTE]
Primecoin [XPM]
MemoryCoin [MMC]
Quarkcoin [QRK]
QubitCoin [Q2C]
Datacoin [DTC]
Riecoin [RIC]
Chaincoin [CHC]
FairQuark [FRQ]
Frozen [FZ]
Protoshares [PTS]
SecureCoin [SRC]
Your Alternate Currency [YAC]
Darkcoin [DRK]
Vertcoin [VTC]
C-Note [CNOTE]
vertcoin hasnt been cpu profitable in ages this list is way old
Mining BTC with CPU isn't possible but you can try mining some CPU based altcoins, below is list of CPU coins
Primecoin [XPM]
MemoryCoin [MMC]
Quarkcoin [QRK]
QubitCoin [Q2C]
Datacoin [DTC]
Riecoin [RIC]
Chaincoin [CHC]
FairQuark [FRQ]
Frozen [FZ]
Protoshares [PTS]
SecureCoin [SRC]
Your Alternate Currency [YAC]
Darkcoin [DRK]
Vertcoin [VTC]
C-Note [CNOTE]
Primecoin [XPM]
MemoryCoin [MMC]
Quarkcoin [QRK]
QubitCoin [Q2C]
Datacoin [DTC]
Riecoin [RIC]
Chaincoin [CHC]
FairQuark [FRQ]
Frozen [FZ]
Protoshares [PTS]
SecureCoin [SRC]
Your Alternate Currency [YAC]
Darkcoin [DRK]
Vertcoin [VTC]
C-Note [CNOTE]
What are the best drivers?
I am currently using 18.3.4. drivers for months and they work like a charm.
Rig is stable and I didn't have a single crash since I installed it.
Before I used Beta blockchain drivers and I wasn't satisfied with it.
One of the gpus constantly crashed after a day or two of mining.
With 18.3.4. drivers I didn't have such problems and I am using same overclock settings as with beta blockchain drivers.
What are the best drivers?
Hi Guys
Does anyone have the RX580 Sapphire Pulse 8GB Micron original bios?
I appreciate your kind help sirs
Does anyone have the RX580 Sapphire Pulse 8GB Micron original bios?
I appreciate your kind help sirs
hopefully you will find it here https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/?manufacturer=Sapphire&model=RX+580
And pick the one that match with your Bios part number (you should check it on AMD radeon settings, under system menu or using ATIwinFlash)
Hi Guys
Does anyone have the RX580 Sapphire Pulse 8GB Micron original bios?
I appreciate your kind help sirs
Does anyone have the RX580 Sapphire Pulse 8GB Micron original bios?
I appreciate your kind help sirs
Does anyone have experience mining with the Sapphire Pulse vs Nitro rx580? From my research it appears they have the same memory clock.
However, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
I haven't tried Nitro's but here are my pulses and I'm more than happy with them, they are stable at this hashrate and coolHowever, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
Nice! How are you able to achieve this? I've tried everything from switching drivers, switching OS's, flashing BIOS, and when I go to adjust gpu and memory clock in afterburner, trixx, or AMD's wattman it always lowers the hashrate. What is the secret? I can't get more than 26 out of each card no matter what I try..
What the link of VBIOS ? what's the OC configuration to have this ? I have the same card but with samsung memory
https://1stminingrig.com/best-bios-rom-for-sapphire-pulse-rx-580-8gb-oc-hynix-memory-30-mhs/
Does anyone have experience mining with the Sapphire Pulse vs Nitro rx580? From my research it appears they have the same memory clock.
However, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
I haven't tried Nitro's but here are my pulses and I'm more than happy with them, they are stable at this hashrate and coolHowever, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
https://i.imgur.com/p3iGsqa.png
Nice! How are you able to achieve this? I've tried everything from switching drivers, switching OS's, flashing BIOS, and when I go to adjust gpu and memory clock in afterburner, trixx, or AMD's wattman it always lowers the hashrate. What is the secret? I can't get more than 26 out of each card no matter what I try..
What the link of VBIOS ? what's the OC configuration to have this ? I have the same card but with samsung memory
A few days ago I bought a Rx 580 Sapphire 8 Gb card, but at the time of mining it only reaches 18.5 Mh / s and I would like it to reach at least 27 Mh / s. What should I do?
Jose
Jose
Run this
https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-AMD-ATI-Pixel-Clock-Patcher
then this:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tool-amd-compute-switcher-for-switch-automatically-to-compute-mode-2815803
it should help.
It doesn't matter if you build a really cool air open frame case and set the fan at 72-75%. Temperatures will be below 65 degrees with Pulses as these cards I have. I have 4 GB cards achieving in total for six cards 188 Mhash or about 31.3 per card. Their cooler is not as good as Nitro+ but they have lower power consumption if you put a wattmeter at all these never go more than 160 watt dual mining while I have seen Nitro+ well over 200 watt per card using Lafayette premium wattmeter.
I'm achieving well over 31 MH/s with my Saphire Pulse 8 GB Hynix, I don't think it really matters whether you get a Nitro or a Pulse.
But you wouldn't recommend mixing up gpus even when it's from the series, right? Because I could built up a mining rig with possibly 13 cards, however from each of those 4 sapphire nitro edition (570 with 4gb 8 gb / 580 with 4gb / 8gb) I could only get a piece of 13. So what to do? I would prefer 8gb versions for dual mining, is the handling and settings more overwhelming if you have mixed up 570 / 580 with 8gb of ram?
Does anyone have experience mining with the Sapphire Pulse vs Nitro rx580? From my research it appears they have the same memory clock.
However, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
I haven't tried Nitro's but here are my pulses and I'm more than happy with them, they are stable at this hashrate and coolHowever, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
Nice! How are you able to achieve this? I've tried everything from switching drivers, switching OS's, flashing BIOS, and when I go to adjust gpu and memory clock in afterburner, trixx, or AMD's wattman it always lowers the hashrate. What is the secret? I can't get more than 26 out of each card no matter what I try..
for Hynix CoreV -93; Powlim 0; C0reclock 1366; Memclock 2150 and a custom rom https://mega.nz/#!j84ThS4T!7y7CB1nrtyktipCLTBfYHqJuqJ4_5fAxwHz2k9WrnD4
Does anyone have experience mining with the Sapphire Pulse vs Nitro rx580? From my research it appears they have the same memory clock.
However, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
I haven't tried Nitro's but here are my pulses and I'm more than happy with them, they are stable at this hashrate and coolHowever, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
https://i.imgur.com/p3iGsqa.png
Nice! How are you able to achieve this? I've tried everything from switching drivers, switching OS's, flashing BIOS, and when I go to adjust gpu and memory clock in afterburner, trixx, or AMD's wattman it always lowers the hashrate. What is the secret? I can't get more than 26 out of each card no matter what I try..
for Hynix CoreV -93; Powlim 0; C0reclock 1366; Memclock 2150 and a custom rom https://mega.nz/#!j84ThS4T!7y7CB1nrtyktipCLTBfYHqJuqJ4_5fAxwHz2k9WrnD4
Does anyone have experience mining with the Sapphire Pulse vs Nitro rx580? From my research it appears they have the same memory clock.
However, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
I haven't tried Nitro's but here are my pulses and I'm more than happy with them, they are stable at this hashrate and coolHowever, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
Nice! How are you able to achieve this? I've tried everything from switching drivers, switching OS's, flashing BIOS, and when I go to adjust gpu and memory clock in afterburner, trixx, or AMD's wattman it always lowers the hashrate. What is the secret? I can't get more than 26 out of each card no matter what I try..
for Hynix CoreV -93; Powlim 0; C0reclock 1366; Memclock 2150 and a custom rom https://mega.nz/#!j84ThS4T!7y7CB1nrtyktipCLTBfYHqJuqJ4_5fAxwHz2k9WrnD4
Nitro + has a higher clock core, but there is no significant difference when compared to pulse. The Nitro card probably just came with really good VRAM.But for Cases Mining, I suggest buying Pulse.OC it, and you'll get the same effect as the Nitro+.
Does anyone have experience mining with the Sapphire Pulse vs Nitro rx580? From my research it appears they have the same memory clock.
However, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
I haven't tried Nitro's but here are my pulses and I'm more than happy with them, they are stable at this hashrate and coolHowever, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
https://i.imgur.com/p3iGsqa.png
Nice! How are you able to achieve this? I've tried everything from switching drivers, switching OS's, flashing BIOS, and when I go to adjust gpu and memory clock in afterburner, trixx, or AMD's wattman it always lowers the hashrate. What is the secret? I can't get more than 26 out of each card no matter what I try..
Does anyone have experience mining with the Sapphire Pulse vs Nitro rx580? From my research it appears they have the same memory clock.
However, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
I haven't tried Nitro's but here are my pulses and I'm more than happy with them, they are stable at this hashrate and coolHowever, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
In my opinion, you should just get whichever card is cheaper. It will get ROI faster. The extra cooling or LED lights don't matter anyway. As long as you BIOS mod your cards and properly overclock and undervolt them, your temps should never rise above 65 degrees anyway. Been running my cards for more than a year now with no issues.
poor advise on the cooling, extra cooling DOES matter. considering we are putting these gpus to the max that we can push them extra cooling is always welcome. I would much rather have my gpus be able to run cooler with lower fan speeds than some cheap ass gpu that has poor cooling and is hard to deal with because of that
I am the one that got the other way around and choose the Sapphire Pulse. I undervolt the cards with Hynix Memory and Bios mod them. MSI Afterburner settings are :
GPU CORE CLOCK: 1150
GPU MEMORY CLOCK: 2175
Hashrate for a card is 30.5 Mhash and I doubt the Nitro+ can go much higher than this, max I have seen is 31 Mhash. I have gonne with Sapphire Pulse because the power consumption is just a bit lower and in mining every little bit helps, running 95 watt while mining monero or 110 watt while mining ethereum only and 145 watt in dual mine.
Still the Nitro+ is considered to be the best version of the Sapphire cards.
GPU CORE CLOCK: 1150
GPU MEMORY CLOCK: 2175
Hashrate for a card is 30.5 Mhash and I doubt the Nitro+ can go much higher than this, max I have seen is 31 Mhash. I have gonne with Sapphire Pulse because the power consumption is just a bit lower and in mining every little bit helps, running 95 watt while mining monero or 110 watt while mining ethereum only and 145 watt in dual mine.
Still the Nitro+ is considered to be the best version of the Sapphire cards.
I really hope that wattage reading is from the wall.. cuz my 580 nitro+ SE cards dual mine 30.5eth/97lbry @ 105W in gpuz
Hi all, I see you guys getting 30+ mh per card and I have having trouble getting those result, was hoping for some help to troubleshoot and get those better hashrates. In my rig I have 7 Sapphire cards, 3 nitro+ and the other 4 are the pulse brand. They are getting exactly the same hashrate and performance (to answer the OP's question) and were doing about 22mh stock on Claymore on Windows 10 with latest radeon driver. I then flashed BIOS using the latest Polaris bios editor and now cards are all sitting at 26mh. After reading around I believe they should be slightly higher. Was hoping for some knowledge on how to achieve this. Any and all help appreciated!
I am the one that got the other way around and choose the Sapphire Pulse. I undervolt the cards with Hynix Memory and Bios mod them. MSI Afterburner settings are :
GPU CORE CLOCK: 1150
GPU MEMORY CLOCK: 2175
Hashrate for a card is 30.5 Mhash and I doubt the Nitro+ can go much higher than this, max I have seen is 31 Mhash. I have gonne with Sapphire Pulse because the power consumption is just a bit lower and in mining every little bit helps, running 95 watt while mining monero or 110 watt while mining ethereum only and 145 watt in dual mine.
Still the Nitro+ is considered to be the best version of the Sapphire cards.
GPU CORE CLOCK: 1150
GPU MEMORY CLOCK: 2175
Hashrate for a card is 30.5 Mhash and I doubt the Nitro+ can go much higher than this, max I have seen is 31 Mhash. I have gonne with Sapphire Pulse because the power consumption is just a bit lower and in mining every little bit helps, running 95 watt while mining monero or 110 watt while mining ethereum only and 145 watt in dual mine.
Still the Nitro+ is considered to be the best version of the Sapphire cards.
I really hope that wattage reading is from the wall.. cuz my 580 nitro+ SE cards dual mine 30.5eth/97lbry @ 105W in gpuz
Other than possibly having a better chance of coming with better memory, there is not much difference in hash rate between 4GB and 8GB cards of the same model. The main difference would be a better resale value in the future, though IMO it's not worth paying an extra $30 per card, especially on a mid-range card like Sapphire Pulse.
Hey guys,
Working on my first set up now. I just bought the first pulse 570 gpu for price reasons and now adding another and notice that there are 8GB versions for $30 more. Would you guys get those over the 4GB versions for $30? If i bought a 580 now could they work in same rig? Sorry for hijack brother.
Im an avionics guy not PC guy so any help is much appreciated.
Working on my first set up now. I just bought the first pulse 570 gpu for price reasons and now adding another and notice that there are 8GB versions for $30 more. Would you guys get those over the 4GB versions for $30? If i bought a 580 now could they work in same rig? Sorry for hijack brother.
Im an avionics guy not PC guy so any help is much appreciated.
In EU there's a big difference in price, Pulse is much cheaper than Nitro.
Thats why I ordered 12x Pulse (building 2 rigs with 6 cards). Will report more when hardware arrives and rigs start hashing.
Thats why I ordered 12x Pulse (building 2 rigs with 6 cards). Will report more when hardware arrives and rigs start hashing.
GPU and memory the same on this cards, difference only in coolling system and design.
If you want to mine buy cheaper and downvolt gpu
If you want to mine buy cheaper and downvolt gpu
I got both of those. Both running similar, but with added offset. Both running similar temperatures. Although new Nitro + have better cooling. Still I would go for a cheaper one.
I am the one that got the other way around and choose the Sapphire Pulse. I undervolt the cards with Hynix Memory and Bios mod them. MSI Afterburner settings are :
GPU CORE CLOCK: 1150
GPU MEMORY CLOCK: 2175
Hashrate for a card is 30.5 Mhash and I doubt the Nitro+ can go much higher than this, max I have seen is 31 Mhash. I have gonne with Sapphire Pulse because the power consumption is just a bit lower and in mining every little bit helps, running 95 watt while mining monero or 110 watt while mining ethereum only and 145 watt in dual mine.
Still the Nitro+ is considered to be the best version of the Sapphire cards.
GPU CORE CLOCK: 1150
GPU MEMORY CLOCK: 2175
Hashrate for a card is 30.5 Mhash and I doubt the Nitro+ can go much higher than this, max I have seen is 31 Mhash. I have gonne with Sapphire Pulse because the power consumption is just a bit lower and in mining every little bit helps, running 95 watt while mining monero or 110 watt while mining ethereum only and 145 watt in dual mine.
Still the Nitro+ is considered to be the best version of the Sapphire cards.
in my country this card have 100usd diffirance which one will be better? i will make overclock
The only difference of the Nitro over Pulse is the out of the box boost clock of the GPU.
That's not true, the coolers are different, and that's way more important than any difference in clocks (since no one's using stock clocks with Polaris cards anyway).
The only difference of the Nitro over Pulse is the out of the box boost clock of the GPU. 1366 MHz in the Pulse over the 1411 MHz boost clock of the Nitro+ with the same 2000 MHz in the memory. Additionally depending on what type of Nitro+ you have it will have a higher out of the box boost clock like Nitro+ Special edition that has a 1430 MHz boost clock and Nitro+ Limited edition that has 1450 MHz.
If you have those cards then it will be good for you since you don't need to overclock the Nitro+ to have an extra hash rate for mining. However because the scarcity of these cards right now because of the mining crazy suggest that the prices of these cards is still bloated even with the Black Friday and the Cyber Monday sale. I suggest the even with either cards as long as you can have it at a good price right now go and buy it since these cards are really goo right now for mining depending on the crypto.
If you have those cards then it will be good for you since you don't need to overclock the Nitro+ to have an extra hash rate for mining. However because the scarcity of these cards right now because of the mining crazy suggest that the prices of these cards is still bloated even with the Black Friday and the Cyber Monday sale. I suggest the even with either cards as long as you can have it at a good price right now go and buy it since these cards are really goo right now for mining depending on the crypto.
In my opinion, you should just get whichever card is cheaper. It will get ROI faster.
True. It's all up to the price difference really, if it's something trivial then I'd go with the more expensive card, but if the difference is noticeable then just get the cheapest. Although it also depends on where your mining rigs are — it's sometimes nice to have better coolers, just so that the cards are quieter: doesn't matter if they're somewhere far and you rarely see them, but does matter if you're around them a lot.
In my opinion, you should just get whichever card is cheaper. It will get ROI faster. The extra cooling or LED lights don't matter anyway. As long as you BIOS mod your cards and properly overclock and undervolt them, your temps should never rise above 65 degrees anyway. Been running my cards for more than a year now with no issues.
I have Sapphire Pulse, Nitro+ and Nitro+ SE RX 580 cards. From a mining aspect, the Pulse cards are good for dual mining but run much hotter and don't overclock as well as the Nitro+. I wouldn't recommend getting the Pulse cards if the price difference is $25 or less. No dual Bios switch on the Pulse card either. I have the best results with the Nitro+ non SE RX 580 cards. Both the SE and non SE cards overclock well after a simple Polaris Bios Editor v1.62 'one click timing patch' Bios mod and run cool. The non SE cards are cheaper and I prefer them. The blue RX 580 SE cards also have annoying blue led fans that can't be turned off.
However, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
The only Nitro's advantage as I see it is the slightly larger cooler. So if you're going to push your card(s) then you might want Nitro for that extra little bit of cooling capacity. Other than that Pulse has everything that a mining card needs: double-bearing fans, the baseplate that is directly cooling the vram and memory chips, and even the backplate is contacting the pcb with some thermal pads. If you're undervolting your Polaris cards then the Pulse will probably work just fine for you. If the price difference is small, though, then go with Nitro.
Nitro is bigger, the heatsink is better, not too long ago i see then on newegg with a diference of $10 on price, worth it.
The best Sapphire are the LE versions (the blue ones), they are the only RX 580 that came with the memorys at 2100 Mhz from factory, they OC really good and are the only ones i can make then work at core 830mv 1200/2200 Mhz
The best Sapphire are the LE versions (the blue ones), they are the only RX 580 that came with the memorys at 2100 Mhz from factory, they OC really good and are the only ones i can make then work at core 830mv 1200/2200 Mhz
Does anyone have experience mining with the Sapphire Pulse vs Nitro rx580? From my research it appears they have the same memory clock.
However, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
However, I see a lot of people recommending the nitro and nobody recommending the pulse, is there a quantitative reason for this?
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