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Quote from: Josepht on September 22, 2017, 08:05:42 AM

Well, first of all, your story is not clear. How exactely are they cheating?
You are probably talking about the house edge? If you have a payout of 2x, the chance to win is 49.5% because of that house edge (in case of 1% house edge).

Also, what do you mean by 'dropping 25% of you account on a bet, and having a 25% chance to win'? You story doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I'm not sure but roughly he meant he wagered 50% of the amount and expected at least returns of 25 %.Anyway a story without no proof makes no sense to me either.

Quote from: panjul07 on September 22, 2017, 08:11:12 AM

As my understanding, he wanna say that he get bigger winning chance for smaller bet but get so low winning chance for bigger bet. Indeed his story does not prove anything, if he really thinks that stake is cheating then he should provide valid proofs. What I see here is just like a personal feeling because maybe he get many winning bets with small amount but he lost many bets with big amount.

What I see is here is basically a butt-hurt gambler who wasn't lucky enough for the day and can't take an L.He claims to be making 10k from the site and blaming site to be not fair in the same sentence.I don't know what to make of it.

noictib

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Quote from: Tids on September 22, 2017, 08:02:17 AM

This is an FYI for any btc gamblers. The games At stake.com are not fair.
I've wagered millions at live casinos, online with cash and btc and this one takes the cake for being a rip off.
The way it works is sort of like dice but with your balance. say I have 100 btc in my account. If I use 25% of my account on a bet, there will be a 25% chance for me to win. If I drop 100% of my account on a bet, I'll have .01 chance of winning. It's actually a joke at how easily the system is identifiable. I originally went there because a longstanding member of this site is the owner but now I see the light.

And no, this is not because I lost, I withdrew 2 btc from this crap shoot, thanks for the 10k.

May be you will be right at your place but still here a single factor not works for the gambling site .But there exists another also like house edge which will never make you profit more then a particular amount of the limit , so may be you will reach at that amount limit and lost your bet un-usually .
So instead to do such types of the direct gambling , here i would like to explain you to use sports gambling instead to scripted based games .
My suggestion for you to use cloudbet.com or nitrogensports.eu as my priority to use for the gambling because these are much better then other .
Here gambling in the sports games are real , because everything happen in the practical life and will have result surely at one side ( in most probably ) , so here for sports gambling is better option .
Note: here sports gambling is my suggestion only for you , you are free to make gambling any type

ProGamerJojo

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STAKE is fair Grin

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Tiger777Bitsler

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OMG all these people with their stupid accusations withouth any proof!

RGBKey

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Stake is probably fair. Save your server seed hashes, and use your own client seed. All the games are provably fair, use my verifier to check your bets. https://rgbkey.github.io/stake-verifier/

100bitcoin

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Quote from: Tids on September 22, 2017, 08:02:17 AM

This is an FYI for any btc gamblers. The games At stake.com are not fair.
I've wagered millions at live casinos, online with cash and btc and this one takes the cake for being a rip off.
The way it works is sort of like dice but with your balance. say I have 100 btc in my account. If I use 25% of my account on a bet, there will be a 25% chance for me to win. If I drop 100% of my account on a bet, I'll have .01 chance of winning. It's actually a joke at how easily the system is identifiable. I originally went there because a longstanding member of this site is the owner but now I see the light.

And no, this is not because I lost, I withdrew 2 btc from this crap shoot, thanks for the 10k.

Apart from your stories of wagering million on casinos, u seem to have some problem in understanding how provably fair system works.

klf

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Quote from: panjul07 on September 22, 2017, 08:11:12 AM

Quote from: Josepht on September 22, 2017, 08:05:42 AM

Well, first of all, your story is not clear. How exactely are they cheating?
You are probably talking about the house edge? If you have a payout of 2x, the chance to win is 49.5% because of that house edge (in case of 1% house edge).

Also, what do you mean by 'dropping 25% of you account on a bet, and having a 25% chance to win'? You story doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

As my understanding, he wanna say that he get bigger winning chance for smaller bet but get so low winning chance for bigger bet. Indeed his story does not prove anything, if he really thinks that stake is cheating then he should provide valid proofs. What I see here is just like a personal feeling because maybe he get many winning bets with small amount but he lost many bets with big amount.

I didn't understand what Op wants to say clearly and if anyone wants to blame someone then they should come with a proper proof then only others will believe it. Without proof, it is very hard to convince someone that too stake admin is a well-reputed member on this forum.

panjul07

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Quote from: Josepht on September 22, 2017, 08:05:42 AM

Well, first of all, your story is not clear. How exactely are they cheating?
You are probably talking about the house edge? If you have a payout of 2x, the chance to win is 49.5% because of that house edge (in case of 1% house edge).

Also, what do you mean by 'dropping 25% of you account on a bet, and having a 25% chance to win'? You story doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

As my understanding, he wanna say that he get bigger winning chance for smaller bet but get so low winning chance for bigger bet. Indeed his story does not prove anything, if he really thinks that stake is cheating then he should provide valid proofs. What I see here is just like a personal feeling because maybe he get many winning bets with small amount but he lost many bets with big amount.

Josepht

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Well, first of all, your story is not clear. How exactely are they cheating?
You are probably talking about the house edge? If you have a payout of 2x, the chance to win is 49.5% because of that house edge (in case of 1% house edge).

Also, what do you mean by 'dropping 25% of you account on a bet, and having a 25% chance to win'? You story doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Tids

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