Topic: Safe guard your seed phrase. (Read 588 times)

Am against  hiding your seed and phrase keys from everyone.  They should be a trusted friend or family member that should be trusted with incase your misplace it. Even if you store offline it can still miss. No one can becareful enough. I once lost my wallet phrase and retrieve it from a cousin I once sent it to. But we must protect our keys by all means. Safe it online and offline to avoid story that touches. 

I have often heard on this forum that, Not your keys Not your Coins . Each of our members in this forum has their own wallet and has its own phase or seed phrase to protect that wallet. To keep those wallets safe and secure, seed phrases should be stored in a proper place so that no one can find them. Many of us want to save this wallet phase through online based device ie phone and google. Maybe it is not completely safe for them because online based devices are likely to be infected with malware.

What if Google cloud is compromised? Or what if your account is compromised? Anything can happen. To backup your seed phrase online is not safe and secure at all. Paper backup is better. If you think paper is too fragile, you can laminate it. If you think laminating it is still fragile to fire, you can get yourself a steel or titanium seed phrase backup sheet. But I prefer paper backup but no natural disaster before where I am staying.

You are forgetting that a paper can get damaged by a lot of things and can also be misplaced, saving them on your device might not be safe especially you screenshot them and save them in your gallery. To me the best way to save them is to put them in your electronic mail or Google account, no one can access your email but you expect you give out your password which is something no one can do. Your last point too is very reasonable, backing your seed phrase is also a good idea, when it comes to crypto you must be very careful.

Omo when e comes to seed phase matter I go still talk am again there is no one safe way to safe it, because if u talk say you go save an online for email or somewhere else it can get attack by hackers or have malware issues. To some extent I go even talk say email own de very dangerous pass because your phone fit enter anybody hand and humans de very smart especially wen it comes to money matter. And again you could loose your phone anytime or something could happen to your email.

And if you talks at you wan write am for paper, anything fit do the paper, another person fit see am where you write am, again the paper fit damage maybe water fit touch am or rat sef fit chop am. You never can tell. And again u fit need your seed phase make you no de where the paper de. Maybe you traveled and you urgently need your seed phase and since na paper you write am you no fit they carry am go everywhere.

There are so many things that can happen to your seed phase no matter where you choose to safe them. So me since I know say there is no one best way to safe your seed phase I de safe am for multiple places. I de save am for paper, for email, and even use the words as caption on different photos on my social media. So with this no matter where I de I feel I can have access to my seed phase anytime.

You emphasize more on the laptop. I just want to let you know that you can import your seed on any Wallet app, that allows import of seed phrase. Both on desktop or laptop. What I come to know of is that some people don't actually know that they can take the seed phrase generated by one wallet app and import to wallet app. It doesn't matter the device you had used to create the wallet, it will still show you your funds regardless.

Again, storing of seed phrase should be one of the thing that as a beginner, you should take very seriously. If you end up losing your seed, and probably got logged out of your wallet app or something, you can loss your coins for ever. avoid storing your seed online like some do in Google. Yes it might not necessarily mean that someone will just start chasing your seed immediately you add them to Google or other cloud  services, but then there is a probability of you losing your seed to hackers, without you even being aware.

Safe guard your seed phrase will not stop u not to learn cryptocurrency, it will open your eyes to see d reason u must write your seed phrase in a safe place u can fall back to take dem in case anything happen to your laptop. To me, I will advice newbies to have d idea on how to protect their seed phrase before leaning bitcoin and cryptocurrency, because it can pain when u loss your seed phrase and your laptop and it will be difficult for u to recover d bitcoin because d only thing u can use to recover d bitcoin is your seed phrase which u have loss, I can still remember what my mentor told me when he was about to put me through about bitcoin and cryptocurrency, he said I should make sure I write all my personal details in a safe place Incase I want to make use of dem in d future, and it will be easy for me to have access to dem again.

I heard a story of someone that lost 22 thousand dollars worth of Bitcoin because he forgot his seed phrase, most people don't know the difference between keeping their funds in an exchange and a wallet, when you are keeping your funds in a wallet you must set up a seed phrase that would be required when you want to access it. I had a conversation with my friends few days ago and we were talking about ways to save a seed phrase and we weren't able to come up with a conclusion on the best way to protect your seed phrase. Screenshoting isn't safe cause if anything happens to your device it's automatically gone

When I started cryptocurrency investment newly I lost my seed phrase, I wrote it down and kept it in my room and some days later I couldn't see it anymore I searched everywhere but I couldn't find it and at that time I already had some money inside my account and that was how I lost everything.
For me I think the first thing we should learn about when it comes to cryptocurrency is how to secure your seed phrase and password, a lot of people have lost money through misuse of there seed phrase or password, if you don't secure this things very well someone can use it to withdraw all your funds in your account.
So one needs to safe guard his or her seed phrase and password to avoid losing money and account,
You need to keep all this things in a place you know you are the only one who can have access to, if you do this then you have safe guarded them.

I mostly write my private keys/seed phrase on a clean sheet of paper kept among my school documents, its safe there more than any other place I may think of, I've been a victim of key lost before in my phone notepad and I lost an asset worth something in my wallet, I learnt a lesson to always write it out in paper to avoid been reckless.

Oh, Woow, this is a very clever way of safeguarding one's seed phrases. The way I wrote it in My book sef ehn, anybody can read that book and not have the thought that that's my secret seed phrase. I used My Poetic intuition carry package small Rhymes weyn sweet and funny. So, nobody go even reason My Secret.

Writing down your seed phrase can be an option but while writing it down you do not need to make things very obvious that you are writing a seed phrase so someone who knows what seed phrase looks like will not be easily able to tell. You can make it less conspicuous, and then keep it in a manner that does not attract attention. I think when storing it, it will be better to keep away from our other regular documents that can be easily accessed.

If your seed phrase is stored in a phone, it should not be a phone that you take to the public, or allow other people to use. It has to be a really private device, very private that other people barely know about it.

I won't advise you leave your seed phrase in a phone whether encrypted or not it's risky to make such move as much as you wouldn't also make a screenshot of it too. Any person with an idea that you are into cryptocurrency could have access to your phone and brute-force  your so-called encryption having access to your seeds phrase. Or what if you lose your phone accidentally your phone and keys all gone.

Having the keys written on a special notebook/paper storing it in a safe and well secured area or better still anyone can go through this link to learn different after ways  to back up a seed phrase https://blog.lopp.net/how-to-back-up-a-seed-phrase/

It's advisable also not to save your seed phrase in your notepad app, that's the major mistake someone do make also, many feel that saving up in notepad is somewhat easy and faster but it's dangerous because, all informations on your notepad are cleared out if you conduct to clear up your cache and storage on your notepad.

Never procrastinate to pen down seed phrase on paper immediately you are issued, it helps.

No decentralized wallet allows the option to screenshot seed phrase, it's never happened, except some cheap web wallet that doesn't know the rules.

Some newbies in crypto actually learned the hard the way because they were careless with their seed phrase, a lot of them think it's not something they would need again so they just abandon it.. I've done this when I started my crypto journey And I lost some funds due to this careless act
The best thing to do is to write them in a special book, save them in an encrypted note application on your phone, you might ask why not simply screenshot and save on gallery?? I don't advice you to do that especially if you are type that gives out your phone to other people

Even in your phone you fit save am, I know say some people Dey give their phone to their friends but for me people wey Dey give their phone to their friend and they have their seed phrase save in the phone are not wise, don’t get me wrong, what I’m trying to say is that as a person that knows he is hiding in his phone and you know that your friends fit see am if you give them phone is better to not give them your phone, I know some of the friends will see it as you don’t want to give them your phone if them collect your phone waiting them wan do if not be bad friends and thief wey them be, I no Dey trust anybody ooh even my friends that’s why I no Dey give them my phone.

Na true be say you fit write it down on a paper so that you can easily get your things back because even if you save it in your phone or email and your phone lost e fit Dey take time to get access to your wallet but writing it down is the best way you will get them back, but as person wey Dey hold bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency make you try Dey wise and no trust anybody, Na friends Dey teach person lesson.

That's a very good one to be highily noted as long we're into this crypto sphere using the blockchain.
Wallets would actually be useless if there's no fund in it but i to sounds ignorant to hear from beginners that their funds is more important to them than the wallets. It's noted that payments are made before buying bitcoin or any crypto coin but primarily, keep safe and privates of your wallets seed phrase is a valuable acknowledgement because without detailed to secure your seed phrases, you'd definitely have your funds at stake.
We should also be mindful of multiple places we stores our seed phrases so that we don't forget to take note of checking out of them if still intact because it could mean to be reachable to anyone if we're not concious enough because at times we might get loosed of some copies at the hidden places while some persons has in anyway or accidentally catch up with it and then steals our funds with the access of the seed phrsses.

Anybody that is into cryptocurrency, especially we that are on this forum must secure our seed phrase because it is our only access to import our original wallet into another device. Bitcoin is a decentralized currency and everybody accesses their coins through their wallets making them their own banks, the moment you lose your device where you have your wallet and also lose your seed phrase that means that your Bitcoin in that wallet is lost forever. That is the gravity of losing your private keys, it's your proof of ownership and when it's lost or stolen, the ownership is either transferred to a thief or is left in the blochchain as a donation to the Bitcoin community.

Everybody that has a wallet address should also be well informed not to save their seed phrase online because of hacks, the internet is a public space and people's devices can be hacked. The best practice is to write down your private keys and hide them in more than one place, so if one is lost or damaged you can still have access to your wallet in the case of lose or damage of your device.

  Tf did I just read.....
Let's say it escaped the beauty u made to it and the typist is so dumb not to use it, hanging it like a wall pic for every visitors to access your account is way more delusional  ....
There's no need for those deluded stuff or you need is a copy of you phrase written by you secretly when there's no one watching, now keeping it safe also depends on you but it shouldn't be associated with any form of Internet.. There're lot of ways to keep it safe  but you might want to carefully safe it where there won't be any form of water or fire getting near it and remember it must always remain  hidden always to only you .

Seed phrase is something very important to have a proper record of it because when you don't store them safe you stand the chance to lose complete access to your account and to the funds inside the wallet. That's why I always encourage people to store their seed phrase or private keys in written form where only them could have authority over there documents to access their funds when needed. That's why many people who complained about their funds missing is a result of not storing their seed phrase where only them could have access to it.

WTF!!! Abeg no do this oh, how you go even carry your seed phrase go cyber cafe, e just mean say you wan lose your bitcoins. Why do you need a bigger font, what for, and tell me you are joking when you suggest that one should hang their seed phrase on their wall, what are you talking about bro. The only thing wey you need na pen and paper, write your seed phrase down and keep am well; if you wan secure am pass like that, use stainless steel backup.

While we are discussing about privacy and safety wise with our wallets containing our bitcoins, I am personally discouraged on noting how you creates wallet address when you are not set to have your funds in it.
Believe me or not, we are more conscious with our wallets only when there is a value of funds in it because keep securing an empty wallet can be tiring at times so then, it is usually better to create your wallet at when you are ready to have it funded because the value of funds in it would make you extremely be careful with your seed phrase and maintain a good privacy just to keep your funds secured.
So if I were you, I will create a new wallet address and generates a new phrase to afresh a more security after then you created one when you where not set to find it.
Clearly, privacies to seed phrases with your wallets is an almost concerned which should not be taken for granted.

As a serious person that value your Bitcoin wallet and seed phrase you need to properly secured your seed phrase, just as you protect your credentials, like your Certificates, NIN,BVN or even Account numbers,one should be serious and see the need of properly saving our seedphrase i don't think there is anybody in the country that will be asked to provide any of these information BVN, NIN e.t.c, that will not be able to that ,thee same way you save your phrase.

You can go to the business center and re-create the phrase by adding a bigger font or colour, just beautify it and use it to decorate your sitting room or elsewhere in your home, just bbthe same way you hang your wedding pictures or any of your favourite frame , which makes it more safe.
You can even laminate it and keep it inside your documents in your file.
At times our over protection make us loose some of our valueables,in these way , you will not boarder yourself .

Securing your seed phrase in a secured location is the most important aspect of cryptocurrency, your coins is your asset and your wallet is the access to your coins, it is only your private keys that makes you the owner of the coins. When you lose seed phrase and your password, that means that you have lost the access to your coins forever, if it is stolen that means that you have transferred the ownership of your coins because there is no way that you can access it again. There is no KYC verification done when creating a wallet so it is only the seed phrase and password that gives you ownership of your coins. Don't save your private keys online, make copies and hide it offline in different secured locations.

I always tell people that screenshot your seed phrase isn't safe cause anything can still happen, it's always best to write to down somewhere or simply save it in your email for quick recovery
Screenshoting it can also expose you to getting hacked, especially if you are constantly giving out your phone to other people
Personally I don't like this seed phrase of a thing cause I feel it might cause some issues if I get it mixed up
I always prefer Gmail verifications if that option is available, I find it easy to access my wallets with this

You should know that it's not a good practice to store your seed phrase electronically, Gmail could be hacked. Also, it's a dumb idea to try to rearrange the seed because you may forget the arrangement and lose your funds. More also, it a dumber idea to try to translate the seed phrase to your local language because some word has more than one meaning. For instance, let's assume you used Igbo language and you translated one of the seed "heart" to "obi", but "obi" also means "hut" and when the time comes to translate it back to English, this will be a problem.

So try not to make your seed phrase too complex, just write it on a piece of paper and keep it somewhere very safe.

So if we dey talk about how to keep your seed phrase safe, I go say make you no save am on your phone or any device wey fit get malware. Malware fit be virus or program wey hackers dey use to steal information or control your device. So if you save your seed phrase for device wey get malware, hackers fit take your crypto.
Another thing I go advise be to use cold storage, also known as hardware wallet. This be special kind of device wey you fit buy wey you fit keep your seed phrase and private keys off-line. This way, even if hacker try to attack your device or network, them no fit get access to your crypto. For this kind wallet, you no dey connect an to the internet, so na extra layer of security. So na something to think about before you buy. Overall, seed phrase security dey very important and na good thing to keep am safe.

As a sound person wey come into the crypto industry with the intention of investing into Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency, the first thing wey surpose enter your mind na where you go keep am, and the second thing na how safe e go be for that place wey you wan keep am, so for the matter of secret phase, even though say some people brain na machine, to store am for brain na very wrong idea, because a pen and paper is longer than any memory in this life we found ourselves, so writing it down and keeping it in a very safe place is the best option, because once you miss one word inside or letters, just forget that ur money, because e don go like that, just because of carelessness, so it's best we save our secret phase in writing and store it in a private and safe place.

It will be hard for human brain to arrange it easily but there is a tool called btcrecover tool that can either help rearrange the words back to the right arrangement or even help to recover some few words missing. You can read this thread to learn how it works.

Also the idea of rearranging the words in another manner simply means that you have to trust your own brain to keep the arrangement which is a bad habit because you can easily forget it

I think you are kind of misunderstanding what "Sam lucky" said when he suggested about rearranging a wallet seed phrase before storing it on either a paper, Gmail or a hardware device. Because when you rearrange a wallet seedphrase either in an ascending, descending or in a diagonal order, it makes it very difficult for third parties to be able to know it's exact format, so as to enable them easily have access to your funds, except you who did the rearrangement. Hence, it very important people don't type the caption "Bitcoin Wallet Seedphrase" or any crypto related words which will make people know that 12 words becomes to a wallet seedphrase, for security purposes.

If you save your seed phrase for your phone or for internet, you never secure your seed phrase be that, e still dey public, anybody fit get access to am, so e mean say if you leave your seed phrase for your phone or internet, no dey surprise say you go just open your wallet one day, you no go meet any bitcoin for d wallet again, person wey don get access to your seed phrase go don move am commot. If you wan secure your seed phrase, make sure say na where internet connection no dey na where you go keep am be that, and make sure say na multiple places na him u go write am put incase if one lost, you go get back up.

In places were earthquakes happens it's not always good to keep your seed phrase there even though you keep it in a water proof or a fire proof case. Ones an earthquake happen you will no longer find them again because the whole building will be destroyed to the ground. However it's better you secure your seed phrase than not to care about it, generally it's not wise to keep a seed phrase in one particular location, we can keep them in different places/areas between some distance that we would be able to reach if we need to. Internet would have been a better place to keep a seed phrase but since there is always scammers that are looking for places they will perform theft that's the reason why it's no longer advised to keep seed phrases on phone/internet.

Op you are very correct concerning your understanding about this seed phrase matter, if you loss am while your coins dey inside the wallet, that one don go be that so na to just forget about am.

Keeping your seed phrase secure is something we must consider before even thinking of keeping our asset inside the wallet. There are several ways we can safe guard our seed phrase but using an online means of storage is not advisable. You can try writing it down and store it multiple safe location, or just buy a water proof/ fire proof safe for cases of emergency. So you'll not be handicapped should in case any of such happens

Yea I was not knowledge that there are tools that can be used to rearrange it just like them say person wey get the right tool go fit fish am out. So I don also learn something. Thats why dem say learning never end.

It is not advice able to miss arrange it at all it must be in the same oder as of when it was given to you any miss arrangements your crypto fund account has gone so writing it down still remains the best option.

Seed phrase na very serious matter wey be say we no supposed carry play at all because e no dey like other things wey be say you go fit say make you come dey go do recover abi na forget password once e b say diswan don go e don go and no way to get am back so if money dey fat wallet you no go fit recover am back and you go lose everything. E dey very important say make we understand dis tin like dis so dat we go dey know how we wan dey take protect our wallet well well so dat we no go end up say we dey loose money and other tinz.

To dey write am for paper dey okay o but you sure say you fit protect that paper well wey be say anytime wey you need am you go fit find am because e dey dat important but if you get money you fit go do dat metallic inscription of your phrases so they you fit protect am well especially if you dey use cold storage.

My brother you do well to bring the topic here because the importance of safeguarding your seed phrase is of utmost importance and anybodi wey understand how important the issue be go understand say the seed phrase na something wey you as a crypto user no supposed joke with and choice to keep am well na something many people for this crypto space dey fail to do. keeping your seed offline na the best thing to do because e go dey safe from any possible hack.

Seed phrase na one important thing we sopos no carry play. Because Naim be the most important thing for this cryptocurrency journey if you no get keep am well, you go loss access to all your funds. E get one of my friend wey lost $500 Worth of bitcoin for him trust wallet because him misplace him wallet see phrase. And uptill date e never fit get access to am. and the cause of this kind thing na absent minded or reluctancy. I go do am later and that later go turn to forever. Na when you don get issues with your fund or you don loss access to you phone wey you go dey find way to retrieve am.
Make we dey make sure say before we start to dey use any wallet wey newly open especially non custodial wallet make we first of all keep the see phrase in other not to make mistake.

because of the issue of lack of privacy in the as it relates to the use of our device, it's not even advisable to save your seed phrase in your phone and that include your notepad in your phone. The thing is that most of us are very careless with our security, some of us, all the people in our house knows the password to our phone and some will freely give their ATM to anybody to make withdrawal and their ATM pin has become a public property and do when de open a new wallet, their seed phrase goes through that same process.

Write your seed phrase out, duplicate the copies and keep them safe in at least three different location so in case of an accident or unplanned event, you can still use the ones in other location to access your wallet.

If 12 word seed phrase is not in an order, it will not take more than some minutes to some hours a bruth forcing tool can be used to rearrange it depending on your hardware computational power.

If you want alternative like the use of flash drive, you can make use of airgapped computer to encrypt the flash drives.

If you are in a place that you know is prone to environmental hazard, having a far location backup would be better. During environmental hazard like flooding, earthquake, the destruction can make it impossible for you to access your seed phrase in that location. The seed phrase might be lost forever, even if you laminate it or not.

Watin the op dey talk really dey right as e be say internet self no dey 100% secured, many of us get friends way dey always make us of our phones and based on say them be our friends we no go fit tell them no anytime way dem won use am.
Although, we no go fit tell if someone dey try scam us or not until we done catch them red handed or say them done already scam us, so instead of us to wait until then, we better secure our seed phrase well so that nothing to happen to our Bitcoin wallet.
Email nah another bad place too bot paper self, thr only way wen one fit try secure em wallet nah if em no keep am for place when water, rat, oil, or somebody go see am, many of us get different places way we dey hide or money, like some people get bank and some get saving box.

I reason am say person way dey keep money for saving box dey always dey very careful for the kind of place way em dey keep the box so that somebody no go touch am.
I visit my friend house one day and I see if safe, that safe them build am join the house and nah rod them use build the safe, that kind of person, you no go fit tell me say thief go fit by pass everybody for the compound and enter inside the house break the building then collect the safe when people no go know watin fey happened.
So, I dey try talk say, this guiding of seed phrase matter really depends on the person way hold am, some people go fit keep am safe and some people no go just fit

I still remember say person wey dey close to me lost him paper were him write down those seed phrase even as I tell am to carry that tin put inside were him document dey so that him go lose am, but late on him call me say him no fit access the wallet after him phone get small problems. The issues wey dey here be say, even though we dey write am for paper make we try use better diary or juter take write am keep am for better place so that e go dey safe for us. One thing wey our pipo dey always do be say dem dey take tins too common bicus dem tink say dem fit maneuver am pass without knowing even the oyibo way say make write am down no be mumu for one day. Na too much sabi dey do most of us here naim make many of us dey get issues las las, if u follow instruction as dem take guide us here we no fit get any challenge for we account and wallet entirely.


Not courageable you stands at a very high risk to lose complete access to your funds, when you don't remember the orderliness.
So it's important to only write them according to how it was generated to you than splitting yourself, you can go hide it any place you like at your home but do not alter it.

The paper backup is not that safe too, because if the paper is affected by water and a word or 2 is missing, you are likely to also lose it. I think the paper written pass phrase should also be laminated and kept in a file to avoid being affected by water or moisture. Just like most documents were destroyed during the flood. Or it is also important to also have another alternative backup like a hard-disk drive and also. Back up in Gmail. By translating it to another language. Incase gmail is hacked they would not know the meaning of those words. Or you can rearrange it in your Gmail maybe turning it upsidedown where no 10 becomes no 1 and no 9 becomes no 2 continuesly. For example
1. Man.                       1. wealth         
2. Success.                2. Quote
3. Behavior.                3. Whale
4. Delight.                   4. Diet
5. Grace.       VS.        5. Danger
6. Danger                    6. Grace
7. Diet.                         7. Delight
8. Whale.                     8. Behavior
9. Quote.                     9. Success
10.wealth                  10. Man

Though i know it's 12 seed pass phrase but by so doing of moderating your pass phrase some times can make it hard for Hackers to know your pass phrase this is my own mathematical rearrangement you can also do your own .

Not also advisable to store seed phrase iny phone and other online devices because of online attacks. An online device can be infected with malware.

Paper backup is better.

For offline security, extending the seed phrase with passphrase will generate different keys and addresses. But if the passphrase backup is lost, just like the seed phrase backup, the coin is no more accessible but lost. Advisable to backup both the seed phrase and passphrase differently in different locations.

The first day when I join this forum, I create electrum wallet but I never put Bitcoin inside because I never gather money and some kind Bitcoin knowledge.
But this seed phrase matter, eating I understand about am be say if e lose no way to take recover am back, and yesterday I still see one topic, way talk about seed phrase. by PrivacyG
And this seed phrase are very important to us as a crypto user seed phrases are words that can safe guard ur account
we human being we dey forget things well well, so if we won create electrum wallet them go give us some words and those words nai be our keys to reopen the wallet just Incase our phone lose or get one or two issues.
Some people dey share their phones with their friends, so it is better not to save this ur seed phrase in ur mobile phones or even ur google account because hackers fit get access to this ur seed phrases anytime them yet get small opportunity.
but once you collect am carry pen and paper write am down keep, make ur phone loss nothing concern you, your account still dey for you but be careful where you keep am when you done write am down.