Topic: Same Addy but different coins. BTC and BCH!!!! (Read 277 times)

hello! How to make money on the stock exchange Yobit

https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAE0aviANKnnkV3Q6vw

The BCH address (BCHAddress -  3Jt57eZZoxhw1z8CndcDpQA2K6ubBfGsL1 ) is empty so that's fine.  Anyways i have seen first time this type of issue.
Need to do some research on it.

This is a great improvement and eventually people will get use to this.
The addition will attract more clicks and AFAIK it's one of the most popular site to check blockchain transactions.
Honestly, I never tried using this to check my ETH transaction, I still got used to using https://etherscan.io/

It only have BTC,BCH & ETH explorers.Yes, even me using up this site for how many years on checking tx hashes and first use of new UI gives out
some different impression.

Regarding China, it seems to me that the situation will change and we will see how Bitcoin will have freedom in this economic zone.

You should use the dropdown menu, instead of all blockchains, just select bitcoin.
I also got confuse on this when it was first implemented, I've been using the site for long and now they added some coins to it.

Thanks.

I have been using bitinfocharts for over 3 years now but never used the explorer, only the index.  I will try it out.  Going to snooze now  Have a good night and chat with you some time

well you can't prevent people from copying bitcoin and when those who copy it are either incompetent or have other reasons (like misleading people) they don't change things that they should.
that is one of many reasons why "fork coins" are considered shitcoins, you never see same problems with original projects that actually have something innovative and are not just copycats.

One of the main investors of blockchain(dot)com/info is Roger Ver.

He used to be a Bitcoin fan but since he forked off with bcash and made some heavy investments in ethereum, he is promoting those shitcoins now.

Stop using blockchain(dot)com/info products. They are there to confuse you.

I am using this one as a block explorer and it works just as good.
https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/explorer/

let me ask it

I think you forgot to include the bot's output.

good to know.  Did you read what our ai bot came up with?

It is not peculiar. An address is just a number and every number is a valid address. Both coins use the same format for encoding the number, so you will get the same addresses regardless of the coin. This can be annoying and dangerous because it is not uncommon for someone the send BCH to an address displayed by a BTC wallet. Luckily, both BTC and BCH have new address formats that are different.

I am part of a team that has designed the first ai bot for the cryptocoin world.  We asked the bot this same question and this is what it wrote:

It's possible! But it's complicated :] The main reason is block.io are using multisig addresses, meaning that it's not the usual address that you can redeem funds with only one private key, but here we require two private keys to sign every transaction.

EDIT - This solution used to work for some time, but it doesn't work at the moment

It seems that blockdozer.com changed their API and their AJAX/CORS policy in some way that makes it impossible to query outputs and to submit transactions. I was able to overcome their AJAX by disabling security on the browser, however the raw transaction that's being generated contains special characters such as "|" and the API doesn't support that. It did work about a month ago though, but not any more

Since Ik'm no expert on this I submitted a comment to the developer that implemented bitcoin cash support in Coinb.in, I'll update here once I get a response. Here's the PR and comment in Github:

https://github.com/OutCast3k/coinbin/pull/113

Phase one - Acquire your private keys

First phase is to your private keys from Block.io - Log into your wallet, go to "Settings", then press "Private Key Access". You'll get an email with instructions how to proceed. At the end of this process you should have a file that contains something like this :

* Address: 3ET4FuXvHahN4WwrJ3dyCLsoVbDVZtVEUU
* Address Type: P2SH
* Required Signatures: 2
* Redeem Script: ....
* Redeem HEX: 5221039960aa771270362b7e49400433e103c59e12c6a43a946d4b048f7efcc68bc0bf21028825d 729387c6b0aafae1c47802c62d7f965de1800d6122143c681044c50700452ae     
* Public Keys: ["039960aa771270362b7e49400433e103c59e12c6a43a946d4b048f7efcc68bc0bf","028825d729387c6b0aafae1c47802c62d7f965de1800d6122143c681044c507004"]
* Private Keys: ["KyubGochD3MkXW4KkT95K6FXbZSrtHg6creF6xaRDc9C3qkyidza","KxFLJ2n76i2W9WB2YdJd1zCL2Kmgpk1vfB2XEynSpQWsYCe4bfqn"]

Phase two - coinb.in

I tried to do it the easy way using Electron Cash - there's an option there to import multi sig addresses but it doesn't work. I had to sign the transaction manually and broadcast it to the BCH main network. coinb.in is an awesome tool to do that, however at the moment the pull request for using BCH isn't merged yet, I deployed a version of the tool here :

http://galed.codus.net/coinbin/

Alternatively, If you want to be extra cautious you can run the tool on your local machine by running these commands :

git clone https://github.com/dabura667/coinbin.git
cd coinbin
git checkout bitcoincash
open index.html

Phase three - signing a transaction and braodcasting

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WATCH THE INSTRUCTIONS in this youtube video to get a better sense of what needs to happen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUSVmLegj8k - If you're dealing with large sums of BCH you could end up losing everything, so please be careful!

The one difference is that you need to be careful to choose the bitcoin cash network, otherwise you'll be broadcasting transactions on the BTC network:

Click New -> Transaction
Enter the redeem HEX that you received from block.io in the first box (Address, WIF key or Redeem Script)
Click on "Advanced options" and change the network to "Bitcoin Cash mainnet"
Put in the amount you want to transfer and the address, make sure that the fee is not too high
Click submit, you will get a long HEX string. copy it
Go to "Sign" , paste the string, paste the first private key from the file that block.io sent you, click "Submit", Copy the string
Paste the string into the second box, copy paste the second private key from the block.io file, click Submit, copy the output
Go to "Broadcast", paste the string and submit.

so you can claim bch :wink:

Well, not for every BTC addy.  This is my first time seeing this and I have been around since years with the cryptoworld.

Agreed but isn't peculiar that there are 2 identical addies with the original and a fork of
BTC?

Months back they've started wallet for Bitcoin Cash as well for ethereum. Now that have got some integration, and I don't see this to be an issue. For every bitcoin address you'll find this.

there is no balance in this address that you linked here. and there should not be any, BCash has implemented a well working replay protection which prevents from things like that (a transaction being replayed in another chain) from happening.

the address being valid on other copies of bitcoin is just because they copied bitcoin without thinking and have been causing a lot of problems during the years starting from litecoin (copied P2SH) and has been going on until today with all these nonsense forks.

lol.  This is my receiving addy and this is what the explorer spit out as I was trying to see where my btc was at.  I have never seen this before.  Scary and awesome at the same time.  lol

Hello folks. I received some BTC but after checking it on the Luxembourg  explorer, this came up:

All Blockchains
There are 2 blockchains with result(s) to your search '3Jt57eZZoxhw1z8CndcDpQA2K6ubBfGsL1' :
BTCAddress
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3Jt57eZZoxhw1z8CndcDpQA2K6ubBfGsL1
BCHAddress
https://www.blockchain.com/bch/address/3Jt57eZZoxhw1z8CndcDpQA2K6ubBfGsL1


How awesome is this and scary at the same time?