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legendary
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Didn't you saw Satochip already released and offered very interesting limited edition cards with Bitcointalk and The Times Newspaper designs?  Cool

I saw that yes. I mean it would be cool if I could upload an image and get my own personalized Satochip Hardware Wallet (as long as the image is legal, of course)
legendary
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Do you have custom designs as well?
Didn't you saw Satochip already released and offered very interesting limited edition cards with Bitcointalk and The Times Newspaper designs?  Cool

We worked together on this custom design cards and there is a chance for something new to be released if there is enough interest shown.
Basically, almost any design can be made if enough cards are ordered.






legendary
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It's a nice chip card.

Do you have custom designs as well?
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Hardware and open source software solutions.

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Discover more about Satochip
Watch or listen to the Bitcoin TakeOver Podcast from Vlad Costea
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Timeline

  • Introduction (00:00:48)
  • Introducing Bastien and Baudoin, creators of Satochip,.Creation of Satochip (00:02:46)
  • On starting a bitcoin business, the use of smart card technology, and the development of Satochip.Defining the Product (00:06:31)
  • Defining Satochip as a hardware wallet and discussing the security measures and convenience of using it.Comparison with Other Wallets (00:12:02)
  • Differentiating Satochip from Trezor and Ledger, focusing on security and convenience.Product Differences (00:13:41)
  • Explaining the differences between Satochip, Seedkeeper, and Satodime in terms of use and purpose.Security Measures (00:14:46)
  • Detailing the security features of Seedkeeper for storing seed phrases and the benefits of using Satodime.Live Demo (00:18:26)
  • Conducting a live demonstration of initializing and using Satochip with Sparrow Wallet.Seedkeeper Tool (00:25:33)
  • Demonstrating the Seedkeeper tool for generating and importing seed phrases onto the secure element.The secure element and mnemonic phrase (00:29:02)
  • Explanation of how the secure element stores and protects the mnemonic phrase, including the ability to export and backup the phrase.Open source software and firmware (00:32:05)
  • Discussion of the open-source nature of the software and firmware used in Satochip, including the ability for users to compile and load the firmware on their own.Seedkeeper and offline usage (00:33:47)
  • Explanation of the offline usage and support for BIP39 and Electrum seeds in Seedkeeper, emphasizing the security measures in place.Backup solutions and open-source software (00:36:33)
  • The importance of open-source software for long-term maintenance and the need for proper backup solutions for seed phrases.Durability and longevity of smart cards (00:39:15)
  • The potential of smart cards to outlive other hardware wallets with batteries.Comparison with BTCChip and new features (00:40:22)
  • Comparison of Satochip with BTCChip, emphasizing the new features and support for taproot using Schnorr signatures.Sparrow Wallet demonstration with Satochip (00:42:14)
  • Demonstration of setting up a hardware wallet using Sparrow Wallet and Satochip, showcasing the simplicity of the process.Integration with mobile applications (00:49:19)
  • Working to integrate Satochip with mobile applications, aiming to provide a convenient and secure experience for users.Convenience and security of hardware wallets (00:53:36)
  • Hardware wallets' potential for day-to-day transactions and the assurance of true ownership of private keys.Open-source secure element and ongoing efforts (00:56:02)
  • Explanation of the limitations in achieving 100% open source for hardware wallets using secure elements, with a mention of ongoing efforts to develop an open-source secure element.The difference between smartcards and secure elements (00:56:53)
  • Explanation of the standard called java card and interoperability between smartcards vendors.Comparison of Satochip and ledger in terms of open source (00:57:55)
  • Discussion on the open-source nature of Satochip and the ability to build one's own hardware wallet.Updates and firmware support for Satochip (01:00:14)
  • Explanation of the update process for Satochip firmware and the need for firmware updates.Elevator pitch for Satochip (01:03:39)
  • Explanation of how to explain Satochip to someone who is not familiar with hardware wallets.Misconceptions about the use of Satodime for spending Bitcoin (01:05:36)
  • Clarification that Satodime is not for spending Bitcoin but for securely storing it.Support for Taproot and third-party wallets (01:07:23)
  • Backup solutions for Satochip, Satodime, and Seedkeeper (01:12:58)
  • Creative use cases for Satochip, Satodime, and Seedkeeper (01:19:19)
  • Hiding the hardware wallet, plausible deniability, and creating a tip jar.Selling of Bitcoin Heads and potential risks of NFTs on the Bitcoin network (01:22:55)
  • Discussion on the selling of Bitcoin Heads and the potential risks associated with NFTs on the Bitcoin network.Use case for avoiding dishonesty in miners through asset trading (01:24:51)
  • Explanation of how trading assets on physical cards can avoid incentivizing miners to act dishonestly.NFTs and Collectibles (01:25:08)
  • Creating and collecting NFTs on counterparty and Bitcoin, then making them into collectible cards.Device Purchase and Pricing (01:28:36)
  • Information on purchasing Satochip, Satodime, and Seedkeeper from the web shop, including pricing and shipping options.Security and Screen Importance (01:31:18)
  • Satochip's security features and the absence of a screen, along with the option for extra security through a mobile application.Project Updates and Open Source (01:32:35)
  • Platforms to follow for project updates, discussion on the open-source aspect, and access to GitHub repository.Inheritance and Use Cases (01:36:14)
  • Exploration of using Seedkeeper as a secure way to transmit Bitcoin in the event of the owner's death, emphasizing the importance of inheritance.Conclusion (01:37:21)

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Links



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7i_dgRZgBI


https://open.spotify.com/episode/5x8ju9Bu8fFulxFOmdDdjQ?si=1d50c9a1dd694935




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Contact

Telegram: https://t.me/Satochip
Twitter: https://twitter.com/satochip
Website: https://satochip.io
GitHub: https://github.com/Toporin
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPmmfB5PpuwMtha9mbaRNlg



legendary
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Vlad from Bitcoin Takeover is making interesting Bitcoin related videos as well as articles on his website and BTCTKVR Magazine.
In one oft he videos he hosted a show with Bastien and Baudoin from Satochip, S15 E20:
https://youtu.be/B7i_dgRZgBI

Another cool video from Crypto Guide showing how modified SeedSigner can work with SeedKeeper and Satochip cards:
https://youtu.be/Rhs9z5uL7qg
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full member
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💼 #Satochip is now supported by Sparrow Wallet, bridging our secure, user-focused hardware wallet capabilities.
That is amazing.  Congratulations to your team and to Sparrow Wallet.  You have done a phenomenal job ever since I have been following your topic.

Edit.  I have questions.  I keep reading that the code within the chip is Open Source.  Is the chip itself Open Source too?  And what is the worst thing that can happen if I fly out of my country with a Satochip card in my pocket that gets seized at the destination airport?


Hello  Wink
Thank you for the kind words. It boosts us.

The code loaded into the chip is open source, yes. And available here: https://github.com/Toporin/SatochipApplet/releases
The chip itself is, in the other hand, closed sources. We use NXP chips... Unfortunately, there is NO fully open source secure element on the market - yet. We are eagerly waiting the Tropic' chip from Satoshi Labs.


And what is the worst thing that can happen if I fly out of my country with a Satochip card in my pocket that gets seized at the destination airport?

Nothing... First of all, Satochip's products look like a bank card. It's hard to say this is a hardware wallet.
Even if someone seized it, the worst he can do with the card, is blocking it after several wrong PIN attempts.


legendary
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Satochip is now supported by Sparrow Wallet, bridging our secure, user-focused hardware wallet capabilities.
Really good news from Satochip!
Sparrow is probably one of my favorite bitcoin software wallets, right next to Electrum wallet.
hero member
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💼 #Satochip is now supported by Sparrow Wallet, bridging our secure, user-focused hardware wallet capabilities.
That is amazing.  Congratulations to your team and to Sparrow Wallet.  You have done a phenomenal job ever since I have been following your topic.

Edit.  I have questions.  I keep reading that the code within the chip is Open Source.  Is the chip itself Open Source too?  And what is the worst thing that can happen if I fly out of my country with a Satochip card in my pocket that gets seized at the destination airport?
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Sparrow Wallet
Satochip native support
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Exciting news for #Sparrow and Satochip users! 🌐🔐


Dive into financial sovereignty with @SparrowWalletlatest update 1.8.0! 🚀

💼 #Satochip is now supported by Sparrow Wallet, bridging our secure, user-focused hardware wallet capabilities.
🔒 Sparrow Wallet stands for security and privacy, crafted for those who take control of their finances seriously. And now, with Satochip, that control is even stronger.
👛 Expect full-feature support for single and multisig wallets, multiple connection options, and standards-based protocols. Satochip enhances this by adding that extra layer of secure hardware validation.
🪙 Take charge of your coins and fees with comprehensive coin control, and enjoy the usability of detailed transaction labeling.
💡 Sparrow is more than a wallet; it's a journey towards privacy, guiding users from public servers to the cold storage security of private servers, with Satochip as your trusted companion.
🧑‍💻 Advanced users will revel in Sparrow's transaction editor and blockchain explorer, now with the added trust of Satochip's hardware security.
🌐 When open source #Bitcoin wallet meets open source #HardwareWallet 🔥 - Together stronger.

A big thank you to Sparrow's technical team for their dedication and hard work! 🙌

Get ready to take your Bitcoin experience to new heights with Sparrow Wallet and Satochip
 
Download the latest version of Sparrow Wallet: https://sparrowwallet.com/download/
Grab your Satochip hardware wallet: https://satochip.io/product/satochip/

Stay secure, stay safe, stay versatile.


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Uniblow
Satochip native support
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Exciting news for #Uniblow and Satochip users! 🌐🔐


🛠️ Satochip is now natively integrated! Multichain flexibility meets hardware wallet security in one seamless experience.
🪙 Supporting a multitude of blockchains, including #ETH, #MATIC, #TEZOS, #DOGE and more, Uniblow stands out as a universal wallet solution. Whether you're moving tokens or showcasing NFTs, do it with ease and confidence.
🚀 What’s more? No installation hassles! Uniblow's single package design means you're up and running instantly - no logins, no lengthy onboarding.
💡 Version 2.6.0 not only enhances your crypto management but ensures your assets remain secure, thanks this new integration. This wallet is also compatible with popular wallets like #TrustWallet, #Electrum, and #Metamask.
🛡️ Embrace peace of mind with #Satochip's integration, elevating Uniblow's commitment to security alongside major players.
📈 We're all about speed and simplicity - Uniblow's sleek interface is designed for rapid transactions and optimal performance on any desktop.

Download Uniblow now: https://uniblow.org/get
Grab your Satochip hardware wallet here: https://satochip.io/product/satochip/

Stay secure, stay safe, stay versatile.


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But also a lot of progress on our mobile application - Satodime.

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Don't miss your chance to buy them while stocks last.

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Hey @Tibu
I saw you are offering interesting new Satochip blank card in form of SIM card for making our own hardware wallet with Satochip code.
If anything happening if this SIM card is entered in old smartphone, or we still need to use card readers and laptops for this card?
And is there any other difference compared with other Satochip products?

I think this is very cool idea  Cool


https://satochip.io/product/satochip-diy-and-developers-card-sim/

Hey,

Sorry for the long-delayed reply...
Yes, you will need a chip card reader or a sim reader to read the chip. In fact, the phone SIM reader could be enough but I doubt you will be able to interract with it directly from a computer and there is no specific mobile phone application to allow such a use.

Wink



But what about notebooks with a build-in SIM card slot? I think they need a special driver to interact with Satochip  SIM card , is this correct?

I have 10 years old HP Ultrabook with a SIM slot but don't know where can I get such driver either for Windows or Ubuntu to try your product.


Any "SIM" card reader should work. Your 10-years old HP laptop can be perfect as long as you have the driver that comes with.
We do not provide any specific driver as our reader are not thight to Satochip project. You can use any standard chip card reader.

On Linux, the easiest way to get rid of the reader is to install the pcscd driver. It does the job.
Code:
sudo apt-get install python-usb pcscd
sudo systemctl enable pcscd.service
sudo systemctl start pcscd.service
sudo systemctl status pcscd.service

But on Windows, it can be painful. Try the generic one that comes with Windows when you plug a SIM card into the SIM reader. It might work out of the box.

Happy to help.
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I saw you are offering interesting new Satochip blank card in form of SIM card for making our own hardware wallet with Satochip code.
Huh, that is interesting!  I was just playing around with my Satochip when I decided to check out the HW wallet section to do a little research on it after the Ledger debacle, and I came across this old thread.  The SIM format is probably over my head, but I do like the newer products coming out from the developers of the Satochip. 

By the way Tibu, this question was never answered and I'm curious about it myself (though I don't recall ever reading that on the Satochip site:

"The Satochip hardware wallet has full BIP32 and BIP39 support and also supports the import of regular (non-BIP keys) such as vanity keys. Even more, private keys cannot be exported outside of the secure chip. Up to 16 regular keys can be imported on the chip. "

What does it mean? You can import into Satochip single private keys which were exported from, say, Core?
One by one?

One other thing that I hope isn't too far off-topic:  As I was reading the description of the DIY SIM wallet I noticed that it's badly in need of some editing.  As an example:

We already had a talk recently but I will provide a detailed explaination for everyone.
...
...
-> https://wallets.thebitcoinhole.com/
Boy, I missed that link altogether when you posted it, and I'm going to check it out now.  One of the reasons I was browsing this section for Satochip info was to get answers to some of those same questions.

Hello,

Sorry for the delay. I'm not very often here.

Regarding the keys import, your previous assumption regarding Electrum was right. In fact, you can importe BIP39 seedphrase but also other type of seed. Maybe we should rephrase this to be more clear.

I have update the SIM product page: https://satochip.io/product/satochip-diy-and-developers-card-sim/
You are right, we should be more careful with English translation. This one is way better. Thank you!

legendary
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Hello mate...

We already had a talk recently but I will provide a detailed explaination for everyone.
...
...
-> https://wallets.thebitcoinhole.com/
Tibu, the site you linked to is hard to navigate at best, because with the two browsers I used the horizontal scroll bar disappeared--but aside from that, where exactly is that conversation you referred to?

Also:

By the way Tibu, this question was never answered and I'm curious about it myself (though I don't recall ever reading that on the Satochip site:

"The Satochip hardware wallet has full BIP32 and BIP39 support and also supports the import of regular (non-BIP keys) such as vanity keys. Even more, private keys cannot be exported outside of the secure chip. Up to 16 regular keys can be imported on the chip. "

What does it mean? You can import into Satochip single private keys which were exported from, say, Core?
One by one?
It might not be the most important question in the world, but it'd be nice if you took some time and replied and did so in a manner that doesn't make the other party just sit there and scratch his head.  Just saying.
hero member
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Hey @Tibu
I saw you are offering interesting new Satochip blank card in form of SIM card for making our own hardware wallet with Satochip code.
If anything happening if this SIM card is entered in old smartphone, or we still need to use card readers and laptops for this card?
And is there any other difference compared with other Satochip products?

I think this is very cool idea  Cool


https://satochip.io/product/satochip-diy-and-developers-card-sim/

Hey,

Sorry for the long-delayed reply...
Yes, you will need a chip card reader or a sim reader to read the chip. In fact, the phone SIM reader could be enough but I doubt you will be able to interract with it directly from a computer and there is no specific mobile phone application to allow such a use.

Wink

But what about notebooks with a build-in SIM card slot? I think they need a special driver to interact with Satochip  SIM card , is this correct?

I have 10 years old HP Ultrabook with a SIM slot but don't know where can I get such driver either for Windows or Ubuntu to try your product.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 6706
Proudly Cycling Merits for Foxpup
I saw you are offering interesting new Satochip blank card in form of SIM card for making our own hardware wallet with Satochip code.
Huh, that is interesting!  I was just playing around with my Satochip when I decided to check out the HW wallet section to do a little research on it after the Ledger debacle, and I came across this old thread.  The SIM format is probably over my head, but I do like the newer products coming out from the developers of the Satochip. 

By the way Tibu, this question was never answered and I'm curious about it myself (though I don't recall ever reading that on the Satochip site:

"The Satochip hardware wallet has full BIP32 and BIP39 support and also supports the import of regular (non-BIP keys) such as vanity keys. Even more, private keys cannot be exported outside of the secure chip. Up to 16 regular keys can be imported on the chip. "

What does it mean? You can import into Satochip single private keys which were exported from, say, Core?
One by one?

One other thing that I hope isn't too far off-topic:  As I was reading the description of the DIY SIM wallet I noticed that it's badly in need of some editing.  As an example:

We already had a talk recently but I will provide a detailed explaination for everyone.
...
...
-> https://wallets.thebitcoinhole.com/
Boy, I missed that link altogether when you posted it, and I'm going to check it out now.  One of the reasons I was browsing this section for Satochip info was to get answers to some of those same questions.
full member
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Hardware and open source software solutions.
Hey @Tibu
I saw you are offering interesting new Satochip blank card in form of SIM card for making our own hardware wallet with Satochip code.
If anything happening if this SIM card is entered in old smartphone, or we still need to use card readers and laptops for this card?
And is there any other difference compared with other Satochip products?

I think this is very cool idea  Cool


https://satochip.io/product/satochip-diy-and-developers-card-sim/

Hey,

Sorry for the long-delayed reply...
Yes, you will need a chip card reader or a sim reader to read the chip. In fact, the phone SIM reader could be enough but I doubt you will be able to interract with it directly from a computer and there is no specific mobile phone application to allow such a use.

Wink
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 6871
Hey @Tibu
I saw you are offering interesting new Satochip blank card in form of SIM card for making our own hardware wallet with Satochip code.
If anything happening if this SIM card is entered in old smartphone, or we still need to use card readers and laptops for this card?
And is there any other difference compared with other Satochip products?

I think this is very cool idea  Cool


https://satochip.io/product/satochip-diy-and-developers-card-sim/
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Electrum news
Satochip's PR to be natively integrated
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Satochip works in conjunction with open-source, lightweight software client. Why ? Because no need to reinvent the wheel when something already perfectly works.
That's the case with Electrum (https://electrum.org/), the most used #Bitcoin SVP client.

We have made a new PR to ask the Electrum team to accept Satochip as a natively integretad hardware wallet.
Check this out: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/pull/8453

Make your voice count and help us spreading the good words.
A retweet of this would be really appreciated: https://twitter.com/SatochipWallet/status/1662000728330715136?s=20

Thank you.


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