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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

Nothing like that will happen, the reason is because Satoshi's identity will not be revealed.

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

More likely Satoshi will be given a Nobel Prize in Economics. He will be so popular that he might be more popular than any celebrities. While, I do not think that there is a reason for the US authorities to put him in prison, if ever he might get assassinated even before the public knows who Satoshi is. Since his creation is a threat to centralized financial authority.

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Quote from: Ale88 on August 13, 2023, 12:27:53 PM

Why should the US put Satoshi in prison? He never did anything illegal, he just created something, that's it. If what Satoshi created was somehow illegal probably many countries would have already banned it several years ago but nothing happened except in some countries with particular governments like China or some middle eastern countries. I just don't understand why people keep thinking that bitcoin is somehow illegal or wrong.

The US government created Tor, one of the most important privacy tools, because they wanted to use it by themselves. So indeed, why would they put Satoshi in prison? Did they ever put any creator of a privacy tool into prison? And yet the idea that they would do so is so common in Bitcoin community, because most Bitcoiners subscribe to the "government bad" libertarian mindset.

I don't see why would Satoshi be nominated for a Nobel prize in economics. Bitcoin didn't change the world. And Bitcoin is just a payment network, the creators of Visa, which is used by billions of people, didn't get one either.

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?

On what grounds would he/they be arrested ? Seeing that no founders of other alternative coins have been arrested for same reason then Satoshi has nothing on him/them to be put in jail. But why the US?

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Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

I don't think Satoshi would be bothered about winning a Nobel Prize.
Sotoshi's anonymity is fine that way, for what is worth, bitcoin is doing great and I think satoshi's anonymity could just be part of the reason why the currency BTC is standing tall.

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Why would he be in prison?

Vitalik outed himself as the co-founder and chief creator of Ethereum, and we literally depended our livelihoods under the technology that he built. No one goes out there hating on Vitalik, let alone threatening him with incarceration. If Satoshi outs himself (and I doubt it would even be possible since lmao everyone who ever said they are Satoshi got clowned by the whole forum and the internet), I think he won't get anything but claps and praises from the people whose lives were changed thanks to bitcoin. No Nobel nor Pulitzer prize, no incarceration or arrests happening. Just us being very happy that there's a face now behind the moniker, which we can thank for and support.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on August 13, 2023, 12:37:31 PM

I wonder why satoshi will be taken to jail? that if we look carefully, aiy has helped to increase the percentage of the economy of each country that has recognized Bitcoin, besides it has provided oppprtunidad to the unemployed and employed community.

And in addition to that, he has helped many people to develop and become rich in the conduct of Bitcoin business in this industry. That's why Satoshi is recognized as a reputable and respectable founder celebrity in the Bitcoin world.

We already have too many Faketoshis and it will be difficult for anyone now to prove that he is real satoshi. There are few ways one can prove he is actual satoshi, like moving bitcoin from sleeping wallets of Satoshi.

One thing is very clear that government and other agencies won't spare him and will definitely come after him. Its better for satoshi not to disclose his real ID at the moment.

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 12:37:23 PM

Quote from: Ale88 on August 13, 2023, 12:27:53 PM

Why should the US put Satoshi in prison? He never did anything illegal, he just created something, that's it. If what Satoshi created was somehow illegal probably many countries would have already banned it several years ago but nothing happened except in some countries with particular governments like China or some middle eastern countries. I just don't understand why people keep thinking that bitcoin is somehow illegal or wrong.

He would owe back taxes on the coins he mined

Are you sure about that? As per the IRS, holding cryptocurrency in a wallet or transferring cryptocurrency between your own wallets is considered a non-taxable event. Satoshi would need to sell some of his bitcoin before being required to pay taxes. Moreover, owing taxes does not automatically result in going to jail.

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

No, the US authorities wont put him in prison because it's made for the criminals only and Satoshi isn't a criminal but a hero who has given us the gift of Bitcoin. Many people have claimed to be Satoshi and none of them is in prison and even if real Satoshi claims to be Satoshi then still people will reject that claim. A genius like Satoshi knows very well that if he reveals his true identity then his 1 Million Bitcoin would be in trouble, and he would never do anything that could cause him financial harm.

The Satoshi deserves a Nobel Price in economics for the asset he has given to the world. He's the one who opened our eyes in this technological age. It's because of Satoshi we understood that we can have a currency which isn't controlled by governments. He's the mastermind who has shown us the power of decentralization in the form of Bitcoin and such a person deserves a Nobel Price for his innovation. I believe that Satoshi is also one of the most influential people of this century and they best thing about him is that nobody has seen or listened to the voice of this amazing guy.

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

have authority putted in prison other coin creator like vitalik Ethereum founder, Charles Hoskinson Cardano owner yet? if these founders are not jailed then i believe that Satoshi would also be saved from jail. Infact he didn't did any wrong and just provide a new technology , a new vision to the world which was much required in this modern era.

Just like AI which has been appreciated and supported by many firms and countries i believe that Satoshi also deserve noble prize for founding Blockchain and btc idea.

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It's not that easy because no one recognizes his face or anything, and there have been many people or anyone claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto the creator of Bitcoin, but that's just a claim.
And if one day Satoshi Nakamoto does appear, I don't think most people will believe it, and assume he or they are not the real Satoshi Nakamoto because there is no accurate evidence.
Satoshi Nakamoto will remain a mystery forever, and if US authorities had the ability to pull it off, they would have done it a long time ago. Cheesy

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From my own thinking if something like this happens well I won't argue if bitcoin will not be at risk because because of government trying to control bitcoin, but his anonymity makes bitcoin indestructible and uncontrollable by anyone. This is another good reason why bitcoin soaring highly today because government is not in control and no authority would ever bring down bitcoin to their own man power or will. So if satoshi is being revealed there will be a great threat to bitcoin progression.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on August 13, 2023, 12:37:31 PM

Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

I wonder why satoshi will be taken to jail? that if we look carefully, aiy has helped to increase the percentage of the economy of each country that has recognized Bitcoin, besides it has provided oppprtunidad to the unemployed and employed community.

And in addition to that, he has helped many people to develop and become rich in the conduct of Bitcoin business in this industry. That's why Satoshi is recognized as a reputable and respectable founder celebrity in the Bitcoin world.

He would owe back taxes on the coins he mined

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

I wonder why satoshi will be taken to jail? that if we look carefully, aiy has helped to increase the percentage of the economy of each country that has recognized Bitcoin, besides it has provided oppprtunidad to the unemployed and employed community.

And in addition to that, he has helped many people to develop and become rich in the conduct of Bitcoin business in this industry. That's why Satoshi is recognized as a reputable and respectable founder celebrity in the Bitcoin world.

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Quote from: Ale88 on August 13, 2023, 12:27:53 PM

Why should the US put Satoshi in prison? He never did anything illegal, he just created something, that's it. If what Satoshi created was somehow illegal probably many countries would have already banned it several years ago but nothing happened except in some countries with particular governments like China or some middle eastern countries. I just don't understand why people keep thinking that bitcoin is somehow illegal or wrong.

He would owe back taxes on the coins he mined

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

Why should the US put Satoshi in prison? He never did anything illegal, he just created something, that's it. If what Satoshi created was somehow illegal probably many countries would have already banned it several years ago but nothing happened except in some countries with particular governments like China or some middle eastern countries. I just don't understand why people keep thinking that bitcoin is somehow illegal or wrong.

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

Why they will? As if not many business benefits of his creation, also just like other said altcoin creators are still there and wasn't imprisoned. Even the creator of monero which is a privacy coin that many uses for alleged crimes is still there and was employed on some company.

Satoshi getting a nobel prize is a huge possibility but it dont think will matter to him/her anymore.

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Most likely neither of those two options would happen.

I do hope that Satoshi identity never gets revealaed as I think its one of the (many) advantages Bitcoin has over other cryptocurrencies and I honestly don't understand why bitcoiners like to deal with that subject. I mean, majority of bitcoiners thought about it at one point (most likely when they just got into it) but other than that, I see no point.

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Am very sure Satoshi would win a Nobel price for the remarkable success of the BTC cryptocurrency. Since his idea enforced the creation of other decentralized coins, it would cause a serious cause for concern if any government were to arrest him for having such a brilliant idea and seeing it to implementation and adoption.

I hardly doubt this would happen because the name Satoshi is more of an acronym rather a real identity of an individual.

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 08:58:23 AM

Quote from: dimonstration on August 13, 2023, 08:54:34 AM

Quote from: legendbtc on August 13, 2023, 07:05:54 AM

What reason could the government put him in jail? If they can do it with Satoshi, why don't they put Vitalik Buterin or CZ in jail?

Because Vitalik and CZ is not from US. The only reason why CZ is having trouble with US Sec is because he accepts US customer to his exchange. US Sec jurisdiction is not globally and they can't sue anyone that is not their citizen or doesn't operate under their jurisdiction.

This precisely proves that Satoshi is a US citizen. In any other case, he would most likely have revealed his identity.

If that's the case, Satoshi will certainly change nationality that has nothing to do with the US country Grin

This would make him unable to be prosecuted by the US government.

But I didn't think Satoshi would reveal his identity. What did he do it for? Money, popularity or seeking the thrill that he is the real Satoshi?

Satoshi will remain anonymous, and we only know who he really is once he tells the world that he is the real Satoshi.

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Quote from: dimonstration on August 13, 2023, 08:54:34 AM

Quote from: legendbtc on August 13, 2023, 07:05:54 AM

What reason could the government put him in jail? If they can do it with Satoshi, why don't they put Vitalik Buterin or CZ in jail?

Because Vitalik and CZ is not from US. The only reason why CZ is having trouble with US Sec is because he accepts US customer to his exchange. US Sec jurisdiction is not globally and they can't sue anyone that is not their citizen or doesn't operate under their jurisdiction.

This precisely proves that Satoshi is a US citizen. In any other case, he would most likely have revealed his identity.

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

I don't think it's as easy as it sounds to just arrest anyone out of the blues, especially that he isn't
a US citizen ..Besides on what grounds would this arrest be based on?? Is he some terrorist or international criminal...don't think so!!
Let the man enjoy his freedom!!!

Btw, arresting Satoshi will be as good as arresting any car manufacturer's CEO because one of its car brands was involved in a heist or something which doesn't even make any sense, you break the law using BTC...you are on your own!

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Quote from: icalical on August 13, 2023, 06:45:04 AM

I don't think there is any law that can be use to put Satoshi in jail, and there is no motive to for the US Government to throw satoshi in jail. Bitcoin is decentralized, Satoshi has no control over it. What more likely to happened is that he will be hunted by cartel or mafia so they can take his supposedly 1M Bitcoin.

He would owe back taxes on the coins he mined

It depends if Satoshi is a US citizen or not. US has a lot to file case against Satoshi in case he is a US citizen and I doubt Satoshi will reveal himself if he is indeed from US.

Quote from: legendbtc on August 13, 2023, 07:05:54 AM

What reason could the government put him in jail? If they can do it with Satoshi, why don't they put Vitalik Buterin or CZ in jail?

Because Vitalik and CZ is not from US. The only reason why CZ is having trouble with US Sec is because he accepts US customer to his exchange. US Sec jurisdiction is not globally and they can't sue anyone that is not their citizen or doesn't operate under their jurisdiction.

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

There is no reason for the government to imprison him, Satoshi did nothing wrong, he never asked anyone to use Bitcoin, the fact that Bitcoin began to be adopted in parts of the world voluntarily. Satoshi will win the Nobel Prize in Economics, even more than that. Bitcoin issued by Satoshi is very useful for the whole world, the convenience offered by Bitcoin has exceeded other institutions issued by the government. If Satoshi reveals his identity, the government will send representatives to learn more about blockchain from him.

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

Did you read the article about Craig Wright? Actually, he is Craig False and he is not a Satoshi Nakamoto, he is an Aussie liar.

Quote from: _act_ on August 13, 2023, 06:22:24 AM

Satoshi is worth Nobel Prize in economics.

People know Ethereum founders and most other altcoins. They are not in prison today but they are reputed people and celebrities.

Satoshi did not commit any crime but helped the world to discover blockchain which is useful all over the world as of today. He deserves Nobel prize in economics.

He worth it but he may not get it because for majority of people, Bitcoin is seen as evil, a currency that's used to fund terrorism and illegal activities, governments try to make it look appear like this, so, while it's true that he didn't commit any crime and if anything, really helped the world to discover blockchain technologies and made steps that gave us possibility to integrate decentralized system, no, he won't get a Nobel Prize in economics, at least in near future (let's assume he appears). But I'm afraid he is dead or if not, his appearance will be the news of the century.

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Good and bad things can happen in that case. Big institutions are already thriving on the concept of blockchain and Bitcoin either separately, sideways, or together. There is no way such VIP will be arrested just right away and there is no reason because he just created a technology and it's being used by various organizations today and this also includes various government authorities.

If they come to an agreement of arresting Satoshi then they would have to shut down all their official operations that run on a blockchain and may take down every CEO and owner of the crypto project around the world. I think happening of this has got really tiny chance. If it does then the public would stand against this decision and there would be riots everywhere from the fans of Satoshi/bitcoin.

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Quote from: icalical on August 13, 2023, 06:45:04 AM

I don't think there is any law that can be use to put Satoshi in jail, and there is no motive to for the US Government to throw satoshi in jail. Bitcoin is decentralized, Satoshi has no control over it. What more likely to happened is that he will be hunted by cartel or mafia so they can take his supposedly 1M Bitcoin.

He would owe back taxes on the coins he mined

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

I do not think Satoshi would ever reveal his identity ever. If he does, for sure he’ll be a priority target of various governments and banks.

Worse is that the criminals will do a massive hunt on Satoshi if he were able to reveal himself in the future. They might force him to hand over his “keys of the kingdom” and take advantage of the entire Bitcoin network.

We do not even know if Satoshi still exists until today. For sure the halving period was already programmed by him the day it was deployed and cannot be stopped until the last BTC is mined.

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?

What reason could the government put him in jail? If they can do it with Satoshi, why don't they put Vitalik Buterin or CZ in jail? I don't think they will put him in jail but instead they will make him work for them with his wits. But whatever theory is put forward, it won't happen because I believe he will never appear again. It is good for him as well as for the future of bitcoin, Bitcoin would be more perfect without Satoshi even though he is the creator of it.

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

Why exactly the US? Maybe he's not there. I think this is one of many reasons why he will never reveal himself. Too many people, including big ones, will want to ask him questions.

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I don't think there is any law that can be use to put Satoshi in jail, and there is no motive to for the US Government to throw satoshi in jail. Bitcoin is decentralized, Satoshi has no control over it. What more likely to happened is that he will be hunted by cartel or mafia so they can take his supposedly 1M Bitcoin.

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

Both of them is what will happen to him,because if the problem and head ache that bitcoin has put the government into by making people to see that fiat is not to be trusted or relied on.
1. He will be put to jail because the government must have called him to give them access to be able to manipulate bitcoin,that is making a back door for access and if he refuses, this is where the problem will start from. He might have been killed by now.
2. He will be given a noble price is the government allows him to live freely amongst citizens,because what he created gives financial freedom to people,if they can give altcoins devs noble prizes. Satoshi own will be more than a noble price.

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Quote from: tw0.625 on August 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM

Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

Satoshi is worth Nobel Prize in economics.

People know Ethereum founders and most other altcoins. They are not in prison today but they are reputed people and celebrities.

Satoshi did not commit any crime but helped the world to discover blockchain which is useful all over the world as of today. He deserves Nobel prize in economics.

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Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options? Grin

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