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Quote from: queennathalia on November 20, 2018, 09:20:14 AM

Hello, Do you believe satoshi sold his BTC today so that is the reason why BTC price falls at the moment?

Or some big holder dumped his BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

No, its not Satoshi. The man has maintained his anonymity so let this argument rest.

Quote from: queennathalia on November 20, 2018, 09:20:14 AM

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Could be anyone, from a exchange to a early adopters, or whales. Perhaps he just wanted to secure all his coins because that's a huge amount. Yes, it could be the person behind wanted to get a free fork coin like Bitcoin Cash for all we know.

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Quote from: Adriano2010 on December 17, 2018, 07:33:42 PM

No this is not satoshi wallet, satoshi didn't sell any bitcoin and i think he will never sold any bitcoin. This is possible an exchange wallet or maybe someone who bought bitcoin over time. But the price will not drop, i read somewhere that this price drop happen always in past and after always bitcoin grow higher than before.

Of course this is not Satoshi's wallet. The man is intelligent enough, so if there's a best time to dump everything its during the all time high in December 2017 and not last month. The OP perhaps didn't know that there's a Bitcoin Cash war ongoing during November that causes the price to plummet to all time lows.

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No this is not satoshi wallet, satoshi didn't sell any bitcoin and i think he will never sold any bitcoin. This is possible an exchange wallet or maybe someone who bought bitcoin over time. But the price will not drop, i read somewhere that this price drop happen always in past and after always bitcoin grow higher than before.

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Why is the topic named "Satoshi sold his BTC." rather than "Did Satoshi sell his bitcoins?"

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If satoshi moved any of this bitcoins the whole of social media would light up. Even CNN news would be broadcasting about it, so it's safe to say that it is not his wallet. Probably one belonging to coinbase or some other exchange

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Quote from: queennathalia on November 20, 2018, 09:20:14 AM

Hello, Do you believe satoshi sold his BTC today so that is the reason why BTC price falls at the moment?

Or some big holder dumped his BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

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The addresses that belong to satoshi are the ones that are the most watched around the world, if the coins moved you could be sure there will be many threads about it and people will discuss the implications about what it is happening, even security agencies will be interested in tracking those coins since they will want to get to satoshi and maybe even arrest him.

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Quote from: BitValve on November 20, 2018, 10:39:57 AM

I dont really think that Satoshi would sell his BTC. Satoshi's vision was further beyond just money. It was an initial idea to change the world. And i say he succeeded.

SV is a whole misuse of the name of the founder taken by someone who is not competent and cant argue technically to any convincing degree. The best way to interpret movements like this is by reading a long standing sites research, who will be able to track the history of ownership for that address properly etc

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on November 20, 2018, 02:43:22 PM

Here's Satoshi' second transaction hours after sending 10 BTC to Hal "Popsicle" Finney: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1DUDsfc23Dv9sPMEk5RsrtfzCw5ofi5sVW. Note that it hasn't been spent. Ergo, Satoshi liquidated ALL its bitcoins except them 10 BTC. Roll Eyes

Check this out Phin, some guy just posted in the main section claiming to be the owner of this address:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/re-the-release-of-satoshis-personal-data-5084077

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he should sell the bitcoin he has at a higher price, the mistake he made was to sell bitcoin continuously (it made the price of bitcoin drop suddenly).

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whoever sells the bitcoin is not a problem for me, but he sells a lot of bitcoin and causes the price of bitcoin to fall it will be a problem for me. it seems like he's a big investor or a hacker Roll Eyes

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Quote from: BitValve on November 20, 2018, 11:07:41 AM

Exactly. It can just be very early adopters of bitcoin, just like the guy who bought one pizza for like 2000 Bitcoins back in 2012, if i remember correctly.

LOL, 10,000 if I'm not mistaken, but it's been a while since I've read that classic thread. If I were that guy, I'd be having some serious regrets today, though I'm sure such a transaction seemed perfectly sane at the time and he's probably rich now anyway.

Satoshi didn't sell his coins. Obviously there's been a huge amount of selling going on in the past few days, but this is bitcoin (remember?). Volatility goes with the territory, which is something apparently people are forgetting--or, in the case of newbies, are just figuring out the hard way. Bitcoin is one of the riskiest assets in existence, which is why it's not a safe haven for investors fleeing the stock market or real estate market, or whatever else.

If you believe in bitcoin's future, you should see the current situation as a fire-sale opportunity to get more coins cheap. If only I had the money to spare. *sigh* Story of my life.

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Quote from: queennathalia on November 20, 2018, 09:20:14 AM

Hello, Do you believe satoshi sold his BTC today so that is the reason why BTC price falls at the moment?

Or some big holder dumped his BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

Any opinions?

How did you believe that Satoshi sold it? There is no evidence that this is Satoshi's address. Even if it was, there is no info about it being sold. Because roughly all of BTCs were sent to an address and it is still on hold. Also, even if it was sold, it was sent to the one adress as it would not affect the price. Therefore we can not see it as a reason of last price decrease.

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Quote from: queennathalia on November 20, 2018, 09:20:14 AM

Hello, Do you believe satoshi sold his BTC today so that is the reason why BTC price falls at the moment?

Or some big holder dumped his BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

Any opinions?

The funding address wasn't used until 2018. This has nothing to do with Satoshi from the looks of it.

The receiving address hasn't been swept, so it's probably not an exchange. This is probably just a large holder or exchange moving around some coins. I don't see any reason to believe they're being dumped.

Supposedly, Craig Wright -- or maybe more accurately, his backers like Calvin Ayre -- are selling lots of BTC to fund their BCH hash war. It's hard to know how much truth there is to that.

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I do not think that Satoshi sold his Bitcoin as if he did it, then we definitely saw the collapse of the entire cryptocurrency

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I don't think it's Satoshi ! The price is falling because of the hard fork of bitcoin cash and I think it will stop soon !

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Quote from: TheLoser on November 20, 2018, 02:57:19 PM

I do not believe that Bitcoin sold Satoshi. This wallet shows that an unknown person sold a lot of bitcoins and no one knows why he did it.

You must mean, someone moved a lot of bitcoins.
What makes you think he sold them?

There are many reasons for moving coins. Eg. getting fork-coins, fearing the safety of your private key etc...

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This might just be a speculation as there is no wallet that is attached to the name of Satoshi, big investors are involve in the price dip, this is really disapointing for a lots of investors as there is an hope for the bull market trend to commence, Satoshi will only sell his BTC when it has been accepted globally as a legal currency, we will keep waiting, the future is here.

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I do not believe that Bitcoin sold Satoshi. This wallet shows that an unknown person sold a lot of bitcoins and no one knows why he did it.

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Quote from: queennathalia on November 20, 2018, 09:20:14 AM

Hello, Do you believe satoshi sold his BTC today so that is the reason why BTC price falls at the moment?

Or some big holder dumped his BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

Any opinions?

What makes you think those were satoshi's BTC?

Is a big amount but they aren't from satoshi. And just as a reminder, Satoshi has 1 million btc, not only 100,000. So please read more before making an accusation like this. Because this kind of fake news brings a bad time for trump LMAO!.

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Here's Satoshi' second transaction hours after sending 10 BTC to Hal "Popsicle" Finney: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1DUDsfc23Dv9sPMEk5RsrtfzCw5ofi5sVW. Note that it hasn't been spent. Ergo, Satoshi liquidated ALL its bitcoins except them 10 BTC. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: queennathalia on November 20, 2018, 09:20:14 AM

Hello, Do you believe satoshi sold his BTC today so that is the reason why BTC price falls at the moment?

Or some big holder dumped his BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

Any opinions?

Now this is done what are we speculating on because this has really made lots of investors sold out of fear and now my question is were are we heading is bitcoin going down for ever or are we ever coming back up.

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Pls be shure about it then write here otherwise some users wouldnt ever checked and would start this info and harm crypto much more which isnt good in this situation.

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Quote from: queennathalia on November 20, 2018, 09:20:14 AM

Hello, Do you believe satoshi sold his BTC today so that is the reason why BTC price falls at the moment?

Or some big holder dumped his BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

Any opinions?

Hey no these are not Satoshi coins these are some exchanges moving their coins, I can understand every time such a huge quantity move happens every one suspects it's Satoshi. I would like you to first see the origin of the coin, here you can see it's from 2018, some research won't harm anyone, but will help fud from start spreading. I also don't think Satoshi will ever sell so relax.

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Quote from: Buzhou on November 20, 2018, 12:24:20 PM

This thought does not make sense and even if it did, leave it in peace.
Whales and smart investors are behind the scenes and you're speculating with the creator?

Whales and smart investors are the real problems for the market the keep manipulating the crypto market, and normal people are getting frightened by the too much uncertainty of the market.

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This thought does not make sense and even if it did, leave it in peace.
Whales and smart investors are behind the scenes and you're speculating with the creator?

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When there's a huge transfer of BTC, a lot of people suspects it is satoshi's Grin

It does not make sense at all. Why would he/she allow bitcoin (his/her own creation) to crash?
If he/she wanted to sell, then at $10K above would have been a better price.

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Where did you get his transaction link? You didn't see it accidentally on a block explorer. Because I am curious to know who this address belong to if it isn't an exchange. Too bad seems Chainalysis turned down their explorer. If the 100 BTC are the real reason of this today crash then I somehow feel me safe.

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though satoshi nakomoto still remain a mystery, but it will take more than just this to convince me that the very brain behind bitcoin will sell off his bitcoin. that's is a fallacy, the reason for the manipulation in bitcoin prices is because of the bch forks, and things will surely bounce back to normal when we scale through this trying times.

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Whoever that is, it's most likely not satoshi. As pointed out by other posters, the majority of his stashes are publicly known and none of these coins point towards satoshi's old addresses.

Quote from: FedorIzmailov on November 20, 2018, 10:35:26 AM

Of course, Satoshi did not sell his Bitcoin as if he wanted to do it, then he would do it at the peak of the price.

Even satoshi wouldn't be able to call the top. But you're right in that satoshi's sell order would like cause the end of a bull run Wink

Quote from: franky1 on November 20, 2018, 10:51:57 AM

peoples wallets do not contain the coins hidden away. the only thing in a wallet is the private key
this is the failure of buzzwords because a "wallet" should actually be called a "keyring"

Oh even if you'd call them "keyrings" people would still find ill-fitted metaphors...

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Quote from: VitKoyn on November 20, 2018, 11:05:29 AM

Quote from: queennathalia on November 20, 2018, 09:20:14 AM

Hello, Do you believe satoshi sold his BTC today so that is the reason why BTC price falls at the moment?

Or some big holder dumped his BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

Any opinions?

Why is it always have to be satoshi whenever there is a huge amount of Bitcoin that has been or being transacted. Not only satoshi can have huge amount of Bitcoin, some people can also invest huge amount of money on it to have that big amount of Bitcoin like those whales or earn it like those cryptocurrency exchanges. And I don't even care who made that transaction, because every one is free to buy or sell their investments anytime. That's the purpose of Bitcoin to have a freedom to use your money.

Exactly. It can just be very early adopters of bitcoin, just like the guy who bought one pizza for like 2000 Bitcoins back in 2012, if i remember correctly.

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Quote from: queennathalia on November 20, 2018, 09:20:14 AM

Hello, Do you believe satoshi sold his BTC today so that is the reason why BTC price falls at the moment?

Or some big holder dumped his BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

Any opinions?

Why is it always have to be satoshi whenever there is a huge amount of Bitcoin that has been or being transacted. Not only satoshi can have huge amount of Bitcoin, some people can also invest huge amount of money on it to have that big amount of Bitcoin like those whales or earn it like those cryptocurrency exchanges. And I don't even care who made that transaction, because every one is free to buy or sell their investments anytime. That's the purpose of Bitcoin to have a freedom to use your money.

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Quote from: joeperry on November 20, 2018, 09:48:03 AM

I agree with this, I don't see any reason why would satoshi himself will sell his Bitcoin at a price like this and there's no way will satoshi will sell his BTC many people will not going to invest in it if that happens.

Also there's no information where's satoshis wallet or any information about his/her wallet and his/her identity.

Yup, it was just little old me transferring coins form address to address Tongue

Most of Satoshis mining addresses are known... And those coins haven't ever moved.

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If Satoshi was spending the market would be in much more of a downfall than it currently is and everyone would be reporting it because it's easy to identify his major wallets. It's probably a large exchange or an institution, perhaps some whale linked to one of the BCH forks.

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Quote from: joeperry on November 20, 2018, 09:48:03 AM

Also there's no information where's satoshis wallet or any information about his/her wallet and his/her identity.

you dont need to know satoshis wallet. or his identity.. just look at the blockchain.
its where everyones coins are.

peoples wallets do not contain the coins hidden away. the only thing in a wallet is the private key
this is the failure of buzzwords because a "wallet" should actually be called a "keyring"

coins are clearly and transparently listed on the blockchain. everyone can see when coins move.
the coins linked in the OP is not coins from the imfamous 2009-2010 stash

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I dont really think that Satoshi would sell his BTC. Satoshi's vision was further beyond just money. It was an initial idea to change the world. And i say he succeeded.

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Of course, Satoshi did not sell his Bitcoin as if he wanted to do it, then he would do it at the peak of the price.

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Quote from: franky1 on November 20, 2018, 09:42:27 AM

Quote from: queennathalia on November 20, 2018, 09:20:14 AM

Hello, Do you believe satoshi sold his BTC today so that is the reason why BTC price falls at the moment?

Or some big holder dumped his BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

Any opinions?

^ nope

the funds are actually an exchange. not a early adopter.

and its very easy to spot if satoshi is spending. because funds from 2009 would be moving.
they havnt moved. so satoshi is not spending

I agree with this, I don't see any reason why would satoshi himself will sell his Bitcoin at a price like this and there's no way will satoshi will sell his BTC many people will not going to invest in it if that happens.

Also there's no information where's satoshis wallet or any information about his/her wallet and his/her identity.

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Quote from: queennathalia on November 20, 2018, 09:20:14 AM

Hello, Do you believe satoshi sold his BTC today so that is the reason why BTC price falls at the moment?

Or some big holder dumped his BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

Any opinions?

^ nope

the funds are actually an exchange. not a early adopter.

and its very easy to spot if satoshi is spending. because funds from 2009 would be moving.
they havnt moved. so satoshi is not spending

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are you trolling or incapable of reading the dates of transaction outputs that are spent? all the previous outputs that link to this transaction have happened in 2018!
not to mention that at first look this is a P2SH address (starting with 3) and this type of address was not even around in Satoshi time Cheesy

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Quote from: queennathalia on November 20, 2018, 09:20:14 AM

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i think this is the first time you are looking at other transactions that take place on bitcoin network.
large size money transfers are pretty common. they don't only occur on price drops. not to mention that you have no way of knowing if it was a "sell" or a "big ass buy" Wink

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Quote from: queennathalia on November 20, 2018, 09:20:14 AM

Hello, Do you believe satoshi sold his BTC today so that is the reason why BTC price falls at the moment?

Or some big holder dumped his BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

This will remain a mystery if who is the owner of this wallet. It could be a huge exchange or firm that shifted to BCH just to get the benefits of the fork.
We should be calm and let this bch drama pass. For sure the price of bitcoin will be back up again. Don't be fooled by these kinds of manipulation.
The weaker hands will always lose. So better take advantage of this very low price and purchase more bitcoin for much more profit in the near future.

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Hello, Do you believe satoshi sold his BTC today so that is the reason why BTC price falls at the moment?

Or some big holder dumped his BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

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