Topic: SatoshiDice odds wrong? (Read 887 times)
pardon any replies from my account...I did not post on this thread...some bastard hacker did. I am deleting his mess. hopefully no one traded with this bastard and my name remains untarnished.
SatoshiDice is not lying, you just made a simple mistake in your calculations. Specifically, you forgot that SatoshiDice pays you a small amount (0.5% of your wager) if you lose, that way you always get something back whether you win or not (unless something's gone wrong), allowing you to easily tell the difference between a loss and a failure to pay out a win due to technical problems.
Great, that was the information I was searching for. I didn't read about the lose payouts. So back to the spreadsheet 
Thanks, best regards.
SatoshiDice is not lying, you just made a simple mistake in your calculations. Specifically, you forgot that SatoshiDice pays you a small amount (0.5% of your wager) if you lose, that way you always get something back whether you win or not (unless something's gone wrong), allowing you to easily tell the difference between a loss and a failure to pay out a win due to technical problems.
In the case of lessthan 32768, you will win 1.957x your wager 50% of the time, and 0.005x your wager the other 50%, giving an expected return of (1.957x0.5 + 0.005x0.5) = 0.981 for a house edge of 1.9%.
In the case of lessthan 32768, you will win 1.957x your wager 50% of the time, and 0.005x your wager the other 50%, giving an expected return of (1.957x0.5 + 0.005x0.5) = 0.981 for a house edge of 1.9%.
You are not wrong. satoshidice is just using another way to calcualte it
I suggest playing just dice.
Thanks, do you know how SD calculates? To me it looks like they lie to their customers. I suggest playing just dice.
First, hello I'm new here 
I did some calculations on the table shown in Satoshidice:
It states, it will keep 1.9% house edge on most bets. If my calculations are right, this is wrong.
I didn't bet until now, I want to know the correct values first.
Example:
let's take the 50% odds for easy explanation:
http://www.anonmgur.com/up/a7a79e1f0b69c1438597a4719108f870.jpg
Winning odds are 50%, wich is correct: 65536/32768*100=50
House edge should be 1.9%,
Price multiplier is given as 1.957x
Here I think, this is wrong.
On 0% house edge, I should get 2x on a 50% odds.
If I have to pay 1.9% house edge on both (my capital and winning) I should get:
2/100*(100-1.9) = 1.962x multiplier
Or the other way around: given the multiplier of 1.957x, the house edge calculates to:
100-(1.957/2*100) = 2.15% house edge
The transaction fee isn't included in any calculations here.
Am I doing something wrong or is SatoshiDice bad in math?
king regards,
KgBC
I did some calculations on the table shown in Satoshidice:
It states, it will keep 1.9% house edge on most bets. If my calculations are right, this is wrong.
I didn't bet until now, I want to know the correct values first.
Example:
let's take the 50% odds for easy explanation:
http://www.anonmgur.com/up/a7a79e1f0b69c1438597a4719108f870.jpg
Winning odds are 50%, wich is correct: 65536/32768*100=50
House edge should be 1.9%,
Price multiplier is given as 1.957x
Here I think, this is wrong.
On 0% house edge, I should get 2x on a 50% odds.
If I have to pay 1.9% house edge on both (my capital and winning) I should get:
2/100*(100-1.9) = 1.962x multiplier
Or the other way around: given the multiplier of 1.957x, the house edge calculates to:
100-(1.957/2*100) = 2.15% house edge
The transaction fee isn't included in any calculations here.
Am I doing something wrong or is SatoshiDice bad in math?
king regards,
KgBC
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