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January 12, 2016, 01:56:52 PM
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Saudi Arabia, of course, is a world champion of human-rights abuse. Freedom, in all of its manifestations, is absent from the country.

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Saudi Arabia sits on the UN Human Rights Council and is even part of the committee that helps choose the council’s human-rights experts.

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Providing Saudi Arabia with a leadership role in this group is an affront to morality and good sense.

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So, the United State welcomes the leadership of Saudi Arabia on a body meant to expose the human-rights violations of countries like Saudi Arabia.

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I’m sure that Saudi Arabia will itself benefit from membership on the Human Rights Council. It will no doubt learn new and exciting torture techniques from its fellow members, some of whom might be able, for reasons of public relations, to guide Saudi Arabia away from crucifixion, and toward less outre forms of punishment.

Read more http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/09/saudi-arabia-beheading-crucifixion-nimr/407221/ and share what is your thought.

saudi arabia will never head to human rights ... human rights are only for its king and for his family..
legendary
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September 27, 2015, 03:15:40 AM
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As the article says, the US loves dictators / human-rights-abusers who "cooperate".
Regime change is only for unfriendly regimes.
Human rights records (or weapons of mass destruction) are just excuses to further the agenda of the US.

The biggest advantage with the United States is that they control the mainstream media all over the world. Even in countries such as India and China, western news channels such as BBC and CNN are widely watched. This gives the Americans a huge advantage, and it allows them to spread their lies and imaginations about the other regimes.
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September 27, 2015, 02:18:30 AM
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I had to laugh had when i heard this announced. What next North Korea as head of Amesty International, maybe China or India on the board  of abolishing slave labour.  Cheesy

It will be funny if the DPRK manages to secure the Secretary-General post in Amnesty International. Who is worse in human rights records? Saudi Arabia or the North Korea? That said, the Saudis will have no issues in getting good positions, due to their close friendship with the United States. In case of DPRK, it will be next to impossible.

As the article says, the US loves dictators / human-rights-abusers who "cooperate".
Regime change is only for unfriendly regimes.
Human rights records (or weapons of mass destruction) are just excuses to further the agenda of the US.
legendary
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September 27, 2015, 02:13:36 AM
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I had to laugh had when i heard this announced. What next North Korea as head of Amesty International, maybe China or India on the board  of abolishing slave labour.  Cheesy

It will be funny if the DPRK manages to secure the Secretary-General post in Amnesty International. Who is worse in human rights records? Saudi Arabia or the North Korea? That said, the Saudis will have no issues in getting good positions, due to their close friendship with the United States. In case of DPRK, it will be next to impossible.
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September 27, 2015, 02:10:08 AM
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The UN by itself is a toothless organization.
This latest mockery of an announcement shouldn't surprise anyone.
legendary
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September 26, 2015, 09:54:14 AM
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Last week’s announcement that Saudi Arabia — easily one of the world’s most brutally repressive regimes — was chosen to head a U.N. Human Rights Council panel provoked indignation around the world. That reaction was triggered for obvious reasons. Not only has Saudi Arabia executed more than 100 people already this year, mostly by beheading (a rate of 1 execution every two days), and not only is it serially flogging dissidents, but it is reaching new levels of tyrannical depravity as it is about to behead and then crucify the 21-year-old son of a prominent regime critic, Ali Mohammed al-Nimr, who was convicted at the age of 17 of engaging in demonstrations against the government.

Most of the world may be horrified at the selection of Saudi Arabia to head a key U.N. human rights panel, but the U.S. State Department most certainly is not. Quite the contrary: its officials seem quite pleased about the news. At a State Department briefing yesterday afternoon, Deputy Spokesperson Mark Toner was questioned by the invaluable Matt Lee of AP, and this is the exchange that resulted:

QUESTION: Change topic? Saudi Arabia.

MR. TONER: Saudi Arabia.

QUESTION: Yesterday, Saudi Arabia was named to head the Human Rights Council, and today I think they announced they are about to behead a 21-year-old Shia activist named Muhammed al-Nimr. Are you aware of that?

MR. TONER: I’m not aware of the trial that you — or the verdict — death sentence.

QUESTION: Well, apparently, he was arrested when was 17 years old and kept in juvenile detention, then moved on. And now, he’s been scheduled to be executed.

MR. TONER: Right. I mean, we’ve talked about our concerns about some of the capital punishment cases in Saudi Arabia in our Human Rights Report, but I don’t have any more to add to it.

QUESTION: So you —

QUESTION: Well, how about a reaction to them heading the council?

MR. TONER: Again, I don’t have any comment, don’t have any reaction to it. I mean, frankly, it’s — we would welcome it. We’re close allies. If we —

QUESTION: Do you think that they’re an appropriate choice given — I mean, how many pages is — does Saudi Arabia get in the Human Rights Report annually?

MR. TONER: I can’t give that off the top of my head, Matt.

QUESTION: I can’t either, but let’s just say that there’s a lot to write about Saudi Arabia and human rights in that report. I’m just wondering if you — that it’s appropriate for them to have a leadership position.

MR. TONER: We have a strong dialogue, obviously a partnership with Saudi Arabia that spans, obviously, many issues. We talk about human rights concerns with them. As to this leadership role, we hope that it’s an occasion for them to look at human rights around the world but also within their own borders.

QUESTION: But you said that you welcome them in this position. Is it based on [an] improved record? I mean, can you show or point to anything where there is a sort of stark improvement in their human rights record?

MR. TONER: I mean, we have an ongoing discussion with them about all these human rights issues, like we do with every country. We make our concerns clear when we do have concerns, but that dialogue continues. But I don’t have anything to point to in terms of progress.

QUESTION: Would you welcome as a — would you welcome a decision to commute the sentence of this young man?

MR. TONER: Again, I’m not aware of the case, so it’s hard for me to comment on it other than that we believe that any kind of verdict like that should come at the end of a legal process that is just and in accordance with international legal standards.

QUESTION: Change of subject?

MR. TONER: Sure.

That’s about as clear as it gets. The U.S. government “welcomes” the appointment of Saudi Arabia to a leadership position on this Human Rights panel because it’s a “close ally.” As I documented two weeks ago courtesy of an equally candid admission from an anonymous “senior U.S. official”: “The U.S. loves human-rights-abusing regimes and always has, provided they ‘cooperate.’ … The only time the U.S. government pretends to care in the slightest about human rights abuses is when they’re carried out by ‘countries that don’t cooperate.'”

It’s difficult to know whether Mark Toner is lying when he claims ignorance about the case of al-Nimr, the regime critic about to be beheaded and crucified for dissident activism, which he engaged in as a teen. Indeed, it’s hard to know which would be worse: active lying or actual ignorance, given that much of the world has been talking about this case. The government of France formally requested that the Saudis rescind the death penalty. Is it really possible that the deputy spokesperson of the U.S. State Department is ignorant of this controversy? Either way, the reluctance of the U.S. government to utter a peep about the grotesque abuses of its “close ally” is in itself grotesque.

But it’s also profoundly revealing. The close U.S./Saudi alliance and the massive amount of weapons and intelligence lavished on the regime in Riyadh by the West is one of the great unmentionables in Western discourse. (The Guardian last week published an editorial oh-so-earnestly lamenting the war in Yemen being waged by what it called the “Saudi-led coalition,” yet never once mentioned the rather important fact that the Saudis are being armed in this heinous war by the U.S. and U.K.; it took a letter to the editor from an Oxfam official to tell The Guardian that the West is not being “complacent” about the war crimes being committed in Yemen, as The Guardian misleadingly claimed, but rather actively complicit.)

It’s not hard to understand why so many of the elite sectors of the West want everyone to avert their eyes from this deep and close relationship with the Saudis. It’s because that alliance single-handedly destroys almost every propagandistic narrative told to the Western public about that region.

As the always-expanding “War on Terror” enters its 14th year, the ostensible target — radical, violent versions of Islam — is fueled far more by the U.S.’s closest allies than any of the countries the U.S. has been fighting under the “War on Terror” banner. Beyond that, the alliance proves the complete absurdity of believing that the U.S. and U.K.’s foreign policies, let alone their various wars, have anything to do with protecting human rights or subverting tyranny and fanaticism. And it renders a complete laughingstock any attempts to depict the U.S. government as some sort of crusader for freedom and democracy or whatever other pretty goals are regularly attributed to it by its helpful press.


https://theintercept.com/2015/09/23/u-s-state-department-welcomes-news-close-ally-saudi-arabia-chosen-head-u-n-human-rights-council-panel


legendary
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September 26, 2015, 01:09:51 AM
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I had to laugh had when i heard this announced. What next North Korea as head of Amesty International, maybe China or India on the board  of abolishing slave labour.  Cheesy
I guess it would be a lot more funny if it wasn't so serious.
legendary
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September 26, 2015, 01:06:50 AM
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WTF? Rather the having the Saudis head the United Nations Human Rights Council, they should disband it. Can you even believe it? It is like putting Adolf Shitler as the president of the The Jewish Leadership Council.
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September 26, 2015, 12:58:10 AM
#1
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Saudi Arabia, of course, is a world champion of human-rights abuse. Freedom, in all of its manifestations, is absent from the country.

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Saudi Arabia sits on the UN Human Rights Council and is even part of the committee that helps choose the council’s human-rights experts.

Quote
Providing Saudi Arabia with a leadership role in this group is an affront to morality and good sense.

Quote
So, the United State welcomes the leadership of Saudi Arabia on a body meant to expose the human-rights violations of countries like Saudi Arabia.

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I’m sure that Saudi Arabia will itself benefit from membership on the Human Rights Council. It will no doubt learn new and exciting torture techniques from its fellow members, some of whom might be able, for reasons of public relations, to guide Saudi Arabia away from crucifixion, and toward less outre forms of punishment.

Read more http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/09/saudi-arabia-beheading-crucifixion-nimr/407221/ and share what is your thought.
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