Topic: Saudia Arabia helped 9/11 hijackers (Read 1840 times)

It feels like all discussions here turn to god or racism,kind of sad that so many threads get hijacked in that matter.

Would really like this to be addressed,are they pushing this back till after the election maybe?
Bet Obama does not want to talk about it and rather dance with storm troopers instead till end of term.
Hilary will for sure brush it under the rug,Trump I think would do the same but a little less sure of it.

It's called "Turn it to the subject of the Evil Jews" and it occurs whenever someone starts talking about those "Evil Muslims."  In other words, the Muslims would rather you be talking about Evil Jews than Evil Muslims.  But you know what?  The lawsuit and the question of law is about Muslims in Saudi Arabia being Evil Muslims behind 9/11.

Unless.....there are some Saudi Princes who are secretly Jews? 

Hmm....

Hitlers work?

How do we go from the hijack connection to Hitler!

The connection between these hijackers and the Saudis needs to be put out in the open. Which tells me it will be shut down and hidden under a stack somewhere just like any info that they got out of the Panama raid.

Well, that's very interesting.

I'm not Muslim at all. I'm an awaken Christian, fighting for the restauration of our Glorious race and the extermination of the Jewish World Government. My life is really good. I have objectives and someday, Hitler's work will be finished.

LOl, now I get it.  I didn't bother to listen to the garbage from him.

i completely share same ideas with you.. we cant blame whole nation because of  horrible acts of some of its citizen.. saudi arabia is a powerful country and dont need to such conspriacy theories to beat usa up..

it wasn't my point, i was paraphrasing obama's  bs (with a touch of sarcasm) but you're off on your rant so by all means.

You really sound like a good muslim.

How's life in your world of hate?

Lol... you are funny. What next? Consider these: you can argue that all hook-nosed people are evil, because Hitler claimed so. You can put forth the argument that Kim Jong Un is the best head of state in the world, because that is what the DPRK authorities claim. Or you can say that Gambia is the land of milk and honey, since the Gambian president had claimed so.

Jury nullification has been so hidden lately.

Remember in the past (50 to 80 years ago) when other nations were afraid to attack an American citizens? Jury nullification can overrule all codes and statutes, and even other court cases. But it can't be done if the jurors don't know about it.

I have been studying this big lie for several days non-stop, and I came to that conclusion : this was organised by the americano-sionists. This isn't the sole group that I hate, but one of the ones which deserves the more hate. That to Lord, nothing particularely wrong went in my life yet, so I can't blame something inexistant to the Jews.

Interesting I read it as a slag and you read it as validation. Perception really is what makes the world go round.
Bet if you blamed the Jews for stuff you eventually would be able to blame them for everything wrong in your life and the world.
Imagine the relief of being able to blame all your worries and pain on one group. Man I wish I had that going for me,sadly I know most of the garbage going on in my life is self inflicted.

What is a pure truth? Interesting choice of words.

That's the pure truth. Every modern problem on Earth is close or far related to the Jews. They're mass-murderers, they deserve to die. Adolf did not had the time to finalise his great work since he had to escape, but soon a new hero will come and finish this task, definitly.

Hey, the Evil Jews!  I was wondering how long before that monster lie would crop up.

Feed it to your muslim friends, please.

There wasn't any plane, so no hijacker at all. This is a Jewish-made explosion, from the interior of the building.

Relevant part bolded.  Read the Schillinger case.

It is very interesting that you missed the part about "If the nation didn't appeal it ..."

Jury rules if there is no appeal, and maybe even after, if the appeal fails.

It's amazing how you would promote anti-freedom by suggesting that the jury doesn't have power.



EDIT: In addition, do you think that Saddam Hussein invited the U.S. into his country to take him to America to be tried and executed? "We" went in there and did what we did against all kinds of our own laws and international laws.

i do not think that saudia arabia is helped the 9/11 hijackers. because saudia arabia has nothing to do with these terror attacks. and they have openly said many times that they did not help the hijackers. how can saudia will help the hijackers? the hijackers have no links with saudia arabia.

Saudi Arabia is home to the Wahibbi brand of Islam, and subsects of Wahibbi are most of violent Islam.  For example, Sayyad Qutb and his sect formed the Muslim Brotherhood.  Bin Laden came from that basic group.

It's not unreasonable to think if some few princes in Saudi believed in these extreme ideas, they may have directly or indirectly helped in the 911 events.

I don't believe any evidence of this has ever been presented, though.  It's also possible that a Saudi prince might give money to a group and not know of it's actual evil intentions.

I agree with U. That,s miens  someone is background and he helped 9/11 hijackers. And he tried to incline Saudia Arabia. 

Is it my imagination or do we suddenly have a Saudi propaganda group in this forum. Have counted three Jr. members so far that pretty much seem off topic and the point is always America is wrong in some way. Just a thought now back on topic.
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So individuals can not sue a Country but big companies will be able to do so under these new trade agreements!
Does this not make things clear that government is not for the people and is toxic at the core;its disgusting the route we are going now.
Think its in the publics interest to see these documents because it could give a lot of countries reason to pull out of the middle east and let the middle east settle their own issues. Some of the reason we are there in the first place stems from Iraq and then this 9/11 aspect. So Iraq is done with and if the Saudis are responsible they can pay for all the damages and proceed to clean up their own mess,instead of hiding behind other groups.
Imagine all the postivie that could come from this as we could out the Saudis for who they really are!
They would face restrictions as a terrorist country and it would strangle them to the effect of losing all sway.

i never hear about this,if this true,so why country like indonesia who have so many resources and oil,not free from hijackers,its can be some weird fact if this true.

A jury can require a country to go to war.



It's a very interesting alternate universe you live in.

Doctrine of Sovereign Immunity

    The traditional rule is that the government or sovereign cannot be sued without its consent. This doctrine prevented citizens from bringing actions against the government to redress wrongs allegedly committed against them by the government.

    The government retains sovereign immunity in order to protect the Treasury and its discretionary governmental functions.

    Waiver of sovereign immunity and consent to be sued can only be granted by an act of Congress. In giving its consent, Congress may impose such conditions and restrictions as it deems proper. Schillinger v. United States, 155 U.S. 163 (1894).

In America, Canada, Britain, and Australia, and a few other countries that have juries, any person can bring any claim before the court in jury trial. The jury has the right and duty to judge according to its conscience. The jury could require damages from another country, and require the nation to go to war to retrieve those damages. If the nation didn't appeal it and get it changed by another jury, it would be against the law to not go to war after the damages.

it's not a waffle, and your point seemed to be that damage from war could be solved with lawsuits, which is ridiculous on it's face value.

It,s not helping. Everyone knows America want a issue to attack Saudia Arabia. sometimes I think hijackers are inside of America.

It,s not help you. everywhere some good and some bad. What are you proving? Saudia Arabia help 9/11 hijackers or they hijack 9/11?

sorry but your waffle missed my entire point 

Business as usual.

No, it doesn't "open the USA up" or any such thing. 

Sovereign nations under English common law have immunity from lawsuits.  This carries over and down into states, and even counties and cities having similar immunities.

What is interesting is a question about the immunity of (hypothetical) a single Saudi Prince. 

I think he's not able to piggyback on the immunity from lawsuits enjoyed by his nation.

Simplifying it a bit.

Say a Saudi prince goes to England, shoots a man in cold blood, then returns to Saudi Arabia.

Is he immune from prosecution in England?

I'm not an attorney but I think NO.

summary; Obama doesn't want the Saudi sued over the few thousand killed in 9/11 as it opens the USA to being sued buy the millions its recently and currently killing or displacing in protecting its own interest; makes sense.

Right! After all, the NSA, CIA, and FBI wouldn't have allowed any of us to help Al Queda, right?

 

It's only a guess, but my idea is that "some or a few" of the "royal family" helped Al Queda.  Problem is there are some 10,000 princes in that bunch.  Assume for an example that just one of those was actively pro Al Queda and was unabashedly helping them.

Should that enable the families to sue the Saudi government? 

It's a valid question.

i do no know that why everyone is targeting the saudia arabia for 9/11 attacks and thay say that saudia helped hijackers in those attacks but there governament has already explained that they have nothing to do with those attacks.

I heard and read a lot regarding this theory and still didn't find or see one concrete evidence for such claim.
Of course, this conspiracy theory sounds interesting and people like to talk about it but we can't judge whole country based on speculations only.
Yes, Bin Laden and some other attackers was from Saudi Arabia and probably some people from this country like terrorist and supporting them but still this is not enough to say that Saudi Arabia is behind this attack.
After all, what will be their motivation, their goal for something like this?

What is a State? What is a foreign State, like Saudi Arabia?

States are simply states of mind. Sometimes they are written down, like the U.S. Constitution, and the various Constitutions of the various American States. Why are they written down? So that the people can maintain a "correct" State attitude.

States, themselves do nothing. It is always people who do something.

Saudi Arabia did nothing regarding 9/11. It was some people who did it. Some of the people may have held in their minds the writings of the State of Saudi Arabia. It was still people that did it.

The thing that we do not know about Obama is, is the State of America or the State of Saudi Arabia strongest in his heart? Same said about Bush or anyone else.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/look-inside-europes-largest-foreigner-ghetto  

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/seymour-hersh-saudis-paid-pakistan-hold-bin-laden-prevent-us-interrogation

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/1-out-every-5-american-families-nobody-has-job

If nobody is working in one out of every five U.S. families, then how in the world can the unemployment rate be close to 5 percent as the Obama administration keeps insisting? The truth, of course, is that the U.S. economy is in far worse condition than we are being told. Last week, I discussed the fact that the Federal Reserve has found that 47 percent of all Americans would not be able to come up with $400 for an unexpected visit to the emergency room without borrowing it or selling something. But Barack Obama and his minions never bring up that number. Nor do they ever bring up the fact that 20 percent of all families in America are completely unemployed. The following comes directly from the Bureau of Labor Statistics…        

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/first-time-us-deploys-two-f-22-raptors-close-russia-deter-aggression

Putin realizes the American Empire is bankrupt, morally, and financially.  Whose going to fight for the United States?  Obese teenagers?  Kids that have lived in their parents basements their entire lives? Grown ups basically act like children and collect star wars figurines. We're a nation of soft boogers without a rudder, we don't trust our leadership and we certainly don't trust our government.  The countries in NATO don't even like us, except for our free military, they wouldn't want anything to do with us.
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Looks like the EU has a death wish. Russia has circa 5000 tactical nuclear weapons on its western border with Europe. Any US/NATO attack on Russia will result in Europe being incinerated in 30 minutes. Is this what the EU politburo in Brussels wants? Did they learn anything from Europe’s experiences in WWI and WWII? It would appear they did not.

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logically country(Usa) with hidden debt 250 trilions usd and despair for future retirees need a world war and to give sanctions they want.

They abused eastern european countries when they are admitted to NATO only to take advantage of them. as brussels abuse all now..

Volkswagen pays compensation to Americans and Europeans are *ucked. *uckin Nazis. Do not buy the German brand!

It was plan of  Israel, as no one from that country was present in office that day

It,s right. But why they helped 9/11? there some incurred people. but not all. I request u to see full document of 9/11.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FLXiH45wi4Y

you are perfectly right .. united states  just wants to have their oil resources..  us dont want to make a deal with saudi arabia but it has only one desire to invade middle east for its horrible desires..

lolololol

No...

Not s surprise. US Govt needs to answer to their people!! Why they kept is secret from their own people?

That's incredible to see how some nazis managed to survive WWII ^^

Saudia Arabia is good country. They can,t help 9/11 hijackers. Someone behind that. It will need more Investigation.

some news for you, the jews who run america don't care if a few thousand of your citizens have to get killed to further their interests, your blood doesn't matter to them unless they're drinking it. the saudis are your allies because they help perpetuate a dark age ideology that keeps arabs and muslims backward and stupid and they help destabilise moderate regimes in the region who were making real progress against the global zionism rather than just preaching sermons about how much they hate the west and causing the odd explosion here and there to stay in the news

the neocons in bush's cabinet said they wanted a new pearl harbour and the saudis gave them it

i do not think that saudia arabia is helped the 9/11 hijackers. because saudia arabia has nothing to do with these terror attacks. and they have openly said many times that they did not help the hijackers.

Saudia Arabia people told that they don,t want to destroy toin-tour. But some people destroy it. But Saudia Arabia don,t help them.

I don't think Saudia Arabia helped 9/11 hijackers. But some people of saudia Arabia helped them. They destroy not a building that destroy them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utRKKOUHA4A

Its good for America to have the Saudis a little on edge and propping up Iran would be beneficial for getting the Saudis off balance.
You get these two going to proxy war town all over the middle east and you can now pit them against one another and profit.
This seems to be the agenda as most other aspects make little sense when you start breaking it down.

This 9/11 aspect is interesting though and I imagine it will have to be addressed instead of shoved under the rug.

Big Oil. Big Bank. Big War. Big Drugs.  Those are the powers that be in the world and it has been this way for a long time.  USA and SA could be called allies but really they are just two entities tied at the hip through the petrodollar.  After WW2 the international monetary system was based upon Bretton Woods agreement.  Nixon blasted the gold based dollar and effectively ended BW.  The Sauds got pissed and held back their oil.  The US came up with a deal with them to buy their oil and guarentee protection to the kingdom and their part was to have them sell their oil only in dollars.  The rest of the world had to fall in line or get left behind.  That system has passed. Now SA holds trillions of dollars many other players are trying to wash their hands of US dollars.  It wouldn't surprise me if the neocons and CIA company made a conspiratorial type of deal concerning 911 so they could began trying to establish a permanent presence in Iraq and places like that aka protecting the royal house of Saud.  The axis of evil and all of that.  

So there you go TS...no we aren't friends...and our leaders and other allies are not 'our' friends either.  They are protecting their interests.  The problem is they are finally losing their grasp on all of it.

JFK was a coup de etat.  Big Oil, Big Bank, Big MIC, and Big Drugs.  They are the buggers who took over the driver's seat way back in 63.  They are finally about to crash...hopefully Pappy will live to see the BS he is responsible for and I think he does indeed see it.  The USA and the rest of the world we have known for so long is in a huge transition right now and I am not so sure the results will be to your average Americans liking.  It will be interesting to see how all the patriotism sh!t plays out then.  It doesn't look very good from where I sit.

They are not allies of the US, but they have the oil.

the US wants to make a deal with Iran and cut Saudi's off. That made Saudi's a bit angry, since the only thing they got to sell is their oil.

Saudi's soon experience some serious shit.

Why are these guys considered allies of the US?  They sell us oil?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/senior-leadership/valerie-jarrett

Why are these guys considered allies of the US?  They sell us oil?


Obama Reveals Why Terror Victims Can’t Sue Saudi Arabia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZXq9w5CCmw