Topic: Saving economy at the cost of what? (Read 1206 times)

I think that many governments, weakening quarantine measures, act correctly in accordance with the current situation. We can continue to maintain quarantine measures, save thousands of lives and at the same time destroy the country's economy, the consequences of which will be the deaths of millions of people. Therefore, everything needs to be measured and look at the solution to the problem more widely. In each country, much more people die in road traffic crashes than from coronavirus. A lot more people die from alcoholism and drug addiction than from coronavirus.
There are many more areas where many more people are dying than the coronavirus pandemic is taking. Moreover, we consider this almost in the order of things.
Governments have already realized that if they continue to adhere to strict quarantine measures, then hunger riots will swept away the government in the future, and finally destroy that part of the economy, which has survived so far.

More people are now complacent with the corona virus hence some lock-downs has been lift off and that's the scary part of it, people are not cautious anymore and they became more relax even if positive persons are rising everyday as we seen on the news.  Governments are always reminding people to practice social distancing and wear mask always as precautionary measures when going outside our houses.  This is a big gamble for the government just for people to survive  until vaccine is available and no other way to save our economy by doing whatever it takes to save peoples lives and the economy through the new normal routines.

Short term versus long term is a very important thing and that is what the older generations missed out that we shouldn't. If we have to live very very very poorly for the next 10 to 20 years, if we have to give up so much that we basically become like Venezuela and do not eat properly, if we turn out to be really not even living but just surviving, I will be fine with all of that in exchange of having an insanely good future in the end.

If we have to put it on a grading scale, I would rather have 10/100 life for 20 years and then have 100/100 instead of living at 80 now and 75 in 10 years and 70 10 years after that and 65.. continue like that. In the end if we continue this system, poor will not survive, we are killing people who can't afford to live and that is unsustainable, so in the end it will be break down and fixed eventually anyway.

Of course, quarantine is required to prevent viral infection. But we must also understand that people cannot be at home all the time. We need to work to make money and lead a normal life. We must not allow ourselves to return to primitive society. Today, the main goal for us is to find a vaccine against the virus. By this we can prevent a recurrence of the disease.

Better increase the hospital beds and ventilators before the restriction relaxation because using mask is no longer save ourselves from this corona virus so when people starts to live their normal life the more cases will be there,in that time if hospitals are lacking the treatment then it will increase the mortality rate.

Here in our country, the government is not that responsible and we already have a huge debt in a lot of organization even in the World Bank. They do not allocate the proper budget and most of our government officials are corrupt and they only think of their own wealth. They are not thinking of the community's situation on how they deal with this pandemic.

It is given that the economy of a country will surely go down due to the damages brought by this pandemic to the small and large businesses. Hoping that government will be responsible on helping most of the families who are struggling in this pandemic. Also, i'm hoping that they make a proper plan about the opening of businesses for them to pay taxes.

I agree with the government's actions to remove the quarantine in order to save the economy. There really is a risk that may occur,
The actual risk that is feared if removing the quarantine is to increase the number of infected corona viruses. But the thing can be
minimized by applying strict health protocols. Because if you wait until the vaccine is found the risk is even greater in my opinion.
However the people needs to work to make money, because not all work can be done from home.

People are the way for economic recovery but how can people help the economy if the peoples lives are getting worst caused of covid19 virus. Our government are now implementing new rules as a new normal which cause a rapid increase of covid-19 positive now, because many people are now going back to work and many business establishment are now operating just to open the economy and help it not to collapse. Sometimes i don't understand what really the plan of the government to the people against covid 19 pandemic.

If the people are ready to strictly follow the government directives on wearing masks and social distancing, this issue won't be there. If that was the case, then economy could open without any spike in new infections. But where I live (India) people are going out without masks and everyday I am seeing those who were advised home quarantine roaming around in the streets. What the government can do, under these circumstances? I envy countries such as South Korea and Japan, where people follow the government orders.

It all depends on our perspective of seeing this pandemic, by accident or by design. If a pandemic is considered an accident, the government will only respond to disasters and depend on mutual support between countries on a humanitarian basis. But if we look at a pandemic by design and a journalist, then the government will be more free to take policies so as not to become victims or at least minimize the risk of losing sovereignty.

Survival mode when a crisis strikes is different from survival mode when wartime. Economic policy during the crisis and during a war is certainly different, this is where the war between the government and the head of state is very important to overtake the corner. Destruction is the real CEO job. Great leaders are those who can damage their own system to be replaced with a new system without losing the benefit of returning to the track for something to aim for. Pandemic provides an opportunity for many countries to escape from attachment and dependency, by following the ways of Germany, Germany, China, the US in achieving the interests of his country.

Well saving the economy is not really the big subject this time, life is more important than economy and i believe that saving economy this time of pandemic will maybe risk our life, staying at home is all we can do this time to save the economy or maybe to save life, we can still stand after this pandemic if we still have a healthy life, but if we get infected we can make everything worst and the pandemic will maybe last long.

I think I got so distracted with the failing world economy due to some other countries use of the misfortune caused by the pandemic. They trade for the need in health, food, technology and other necessities in the lock-down. I was not looking at the improvement of the health facilities, culture and personal health precautions around the world which is relapsing with relax of the lock-down. Since no vaccines had been discovered the second waves is bound to happen possibly in higher capacity, so we might need more to save the economy.

Frankly speaking this pandemic has brought the entire world on its toes and steeped in distress. However, there has to be a double edged solution or else if we decide to kill it at one front the other front will over power us. First of all, total lock down will bring any country on its knees, even the developed countries could not handle it how much more developing ones. So yeah, restrictions have to be lifted so that economic productivity can go on whiles people take care of themselves to prevent catching the disease.

This is why it is important to try to make people aware that the end of the lockdown period does not mean the end of the precautions necessary to protect ourselves from the virus, many people are acting as if everything is over and this is dangerous, if most people act like that then it is almost inevitable that a second wave of the pandemic will come in full force during the winter, this will make the transmission even easier under those weather conditions and could force another lockdown which will be even more deadly for the economy.

Life or economy will have to make a well-thought-out decision If people live, the economy will survive When the economy collapses again, it is a big disaster for the people So there is no direct answer here We have to make a decision considering the maximum benefit And people are at the center of the decision The decision has to be made for the people, to survive.

Its the sad truth now. Just like here in our country, the Government are slowly lifting up the enhanced community quarantine to General community quarantine on selected places, where people can start going out but with a mask of course. And some businesses and transportation were operating as long as they follow social distancing.
It made me sad to realized that when covid19 started to enter here in our country, with only just 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 cases of infected or positive individuals, we are forced to just stay home to stop the virus from spreading, and implemented hard lockdown for over 4months. And now, that the cases arises and reach 36, 438 infected individuals as of today...they are slowly lifting the quarantine, and many people can be seen anywhere, not following social distancing anymore. I understand that our Government cannot provide everything for all the people because of its limited resources, and to revive the losses and the dying economy, they are now giving permission to some businesses and industries to operate, and the people became more at risk. Saving the economy is necessary but the lives of many people are the most important.

The problem is what happens if the company is in debt so that they cannot restart the work again after a three month layoff and i am sure many companies are facing that situation, i am not talking about multinational companies but small and medium sectors and they will find it diffcult to restart the work and the people who work in those places suddenly have no job and the question would be, will be government help in reducing their debt and funding them and most of the time it is highly unlikely the government will bail these small and medium industries.

It is not that easy to revive the economy because the debt starts increasing and what will the government do to ignore that, pump more money and what happens is inflation if they keep on printing and pumping money, maintaining a healthy diet and using mask is one thing you need to follow but it would have been great if we followed that from the start.

The number of infected people has dropped, many have been cured and recovered
 That's why the government is trying to slowly restore everything, because they can't provide all the needs of their citizen.they have to do that because many are hungry.

Demonstrations that took place in the United States and did not lead to a second wave of the epidemic confirm that wearing masks and observing hygienic measures will mitigate the repercussions of the pandemic.
Adherence to these procedures and teaching the people to start with fear of the virus and that it may lead to human death and the destruction of the economy is the solution.
When people stop fear, they become less cautious and fail.

Yeah, there is really nothing else we can do. Do you know what’s more annoying with the lockdown? We went on a lockdown with hope that the virus will stop spreading, but guess what? It kept spreading and numbers increasing. So, what’s the need for a lockdown when it’s not solving any matter? And yet people are going hungry and losing their jobs? Nah, we better stop the lockdown and let people go back to their work, it doesn’t make any sense.

A lot of companies tried the work-from-home, but you do know that a cleaner and a security can’t work from home right? A cleaner might end up losing their job because they can’t work from home.

If only masks were able to stop the virus. Most of it is transmitted through touching your face or mouth with dirty hands. A mask won't save you if you don't know how to behave.

I still think it's good they're trying to make things go back to normal. The virus kills 1% of the infected but the suicides in case of a global recession will kill more than that.

Starting again with a new normal life will provide an opportunity for everyone to restart their lives and their economy. The company will be re-operated and workers will return to work for money that will support them. During quarantine there is a lot that must be sacrificed and it affects everyone. The government is temporarily helping the community, but not until the Pandemic ends. A new normal life and coexist with covid-19 virus is the right choice for now. The most important thing is to maintain yourself by always maintaining cleanliness, using masks and according to the protocol set. The economy will recover if we together try to rebuild it.

Economy needs to move it's a hard decision to every leaders but it can't take away the fact that more damages will be done if government will not work it out, taking all the precautions and strengthen the fight against this pandemic virus by implementing all safety measures.

It's needed to be more strict will all the government rules regarding to social distancing as it will lessen the chance of spreading the virus, if things will materialized well the cost of reopening will be much productive with lesser chances of more infected citizens,.

Current situation is one of the hardest in human history - most of us have all information available online, we are not in war, you can connect literally anyone online, yet thousands of people are dying.
If we choose to sit home to prevent corona deaths - we are going to face real economy depression and you should understand that poor people are going to rob, kill, destroy and etc.
On the other hand if we choose to go out and work - our economy is going to be fine after some months of constant work, but people are going to die more due to corona.
We can't estimate losses without making this decision so we gotta hope for the best and try not to loose current economical state I guess

I can see the point that we should always consider the healthcare of everyone, it's a must because "Health is Wealth", but we can't also consider the fact that in order for us to be healthy, we need to eat a proper meal and not just foods that are offered by the government. Here in my country, the government gives food and assistance for many poor and middle class familiies when we're still in enhanced community quarantine and imagine that many people they have to give assistance to, that's a lot yet their assistance is still not enough for a whole month. People are still forced to go out and make money in order for them to avoid starving. Yes, health should always be considered but we can't rely to the government always, most especially those people that can't work at home like drivers, street vendors, etc..

It's a good thing that people can now go out to work, in my opinion, but we all have to be extra careful for us to be safe. Always wear a mask and always wash your hands and use alcohol. Our health now depends on ourselves, be extra careful and always follow social distancing. We have to bear with that until the day comes the vaccine will be discovered. Till that day comes, let's all be safe.

It is really hard since they made a lot of mistakes to start with.

I know that they are doing their best but my countrymen are such perfectionists and they argue with every wrong mistake the government has made. I can understand that since they are the leaders and as long as they can, they should really avoid making mistakes since they are holding the lives of a lot of people with those decisions or plans. I hope we can all get through this.

Restrictions are removed for the reason that few countries can afford to be in isolation for months.
New outbreaks will be but at least humanity now knows about masks.  In any case, the crisis will be stronger and more destructive if you continue to keep everyone at home.

balancing is better than one is high and the other is low , atleast people will somehow calm down and wont complain if ever they fall on the low side and get heavily affected on the situation .

 course they wont just sit there watch us people panicking or watch the economy and the people dying but govts role is to help and fix the known issues . ill be pissed off to think that virus can win over us when infact virus is only a virus with no brain that can think .

Lockdown won't last forever but either way there's still a risk of losing people hence saving the economy in order to protect the people is a tough choice since the risk is still present. But, with the right procedure on how to minimize the risk of getting infected is still a chance that we should have to work in order to protect the economy or else let a single country be wiped out since the results also reveals that if the economy dropped then everything will going to drop soon.

People think that governments choose between economy and health of citizens but in fact it isn't so.
By responsible behaviour of everyone both options are possible.
Lockdown can't last forever, that would mean the end of our societies and we have to continue with our lives and that includes economy, production, social activities. If we obey recommendations and rules made by epidemiologists all activities can continue and we can still protect our health. Besides constant fear and panic from virus don't lead anywhere, thus you could spend your life in fear from any other diseas and where would that lead you.

The government is doing everything to balance the situation, they can’t just stopped working and let the virus killed the economy. I know there are so many irregularities but I believe every government is doing their best, its hard to run a country where people have no coordination at all. They’ll save many as much as they can, and I sure the economy must continue to work so they can still face many challenges in the future.

One way or another, sooner or later, everything happens to be about money.

Your education, your job, your marriage, your kids, your parents, your health, your hobbies, your vacations etc etc.

Every choice you make has a financial logic behind it.

Smart people figured this out before the rest of the world and even though some people try to resist capitalism, everybody still plays by its rules.

In my opinion we shouldn't discuss enough/not enough value of the decision 've made us govs.
We rather should think in terms of it economy and inner culture of capitalism.
Capital is worth more than some lives in US, I don't think thats debatable.
Debatable is whether other countries should do the same or not

When this virus appeared it took everyone by surprise and it began to spread very rapidly so I think the lockdowns ordered by the governments were justified, this slowed down the virus and it give us time to try to figure out a treatment, while the vaccine will not be available until the next year it seems there are many ways to treat the symptoms and help to raise the survival rate of those that are severely ill, this is saving lives and it is slowly dropping the mortality rate of the virus and this is why we can open the economies again, but we still need to be careful because if we are not the second wave could be so big that hospitals will not be able to deal with it and more people will begin to die for the lack of specialized healthcare.

I disagree. Because this is not the case of most developed countries. Only on some countries, due to improper governments and its laws, they are not caring about each and every individual's life. A true republic will definitely care about their citizen the most than anything else.

I do see many government has already started allowing their people to get back to working place so that they could save their economy. Now the responsibility of protecting against pandemic just shifted to individuals that it is supposed to be government's.

Rising your economy must be the secondary option for most governments right now because they are right now working on saving it from not deeply falling down. Yes, people must need to adopt the "new normal" to live in social life so that they could save their lives as well as their nation's economy.

OP what do you think, did you write anything meaningful?
Wear that mask on your face even when you fall asleep, I don't care but personally I can't breath in those masks and I am responsible on myself and my behaviors, will never ask to get treatment if I get covid but I'm going on pretty well.

And anyone who really says that why the fuck to care about economy when our health is danger, I want to remind those people that: At first you can get immune to any virus but not to hunger and then - Your health/life/existance is fuckin linked to economics and without it you can't fuckin survive. See economic situation in Africa, see how children and adults live and then come here argue with me that economics has nothing to do with our health and life.

What do you think, can you destroy virus by lockdown? Even current lockdowns were a waste of time, Sweden and Belarus are going well without lockdowns and regulations and there are less victims of virus in these countries.
Humanity had a lot of viruses and diseases, including Black Death but we survived. There will be nothing that will abandon mankind.

Don't you think about people who live alone at home? Don't you think about people who have depression? Don't you think about people who have other mental illness? Don't you think about people who have anemia and need blood transfusion? Don't you think about people who need other medical services to live?

Just try to stay at one room/home alone without food (no work = no economics = no food) for 1 month and then came here and explain how good that journey was and how mentally satisfied you feel after that.

AGAIN, I don't care, stay at home, wear mask and do whatever you want to keep yourself safe! I need to work!!! And I am responsible on my own health!!! I amn't going to bury alive because of you!

And the most curious thing here is that some people who have wealth suggest poor people: stay at home to lessen the spread of virus. But these people don't care whether poor people die because of hunger or not, because you can't get affected by hunger when you have money.

The reason why less and less people are dying is because we figured out some sort of treatment. Not that it is fully treatable right now and we just give one medicine and puff, it is gone type of deal. However we know how to approach it a lot better. Doctors didn't know what to do with the patients for a long time, there was tests made on what makes the infected better but there was no guaranteed answer.

Nowadays we know whats good for them and what to do and how to heal them, still not a permanent solution but at least it could save more people. Hence, right now death rate is dropping, and it will continue to drop even more if there is less infected because when hospitals have less infected that means they have to give their attention better to less people instead of less attention to more people.

The cost of restarting the economy is people's lives.
We cannot stop the Infections if we want the economy to work.
It is the one way or the other... And it seems that the governments decide to risk people's lives.

We have to learn how to deal with problems. Virus is the problem, but we can't abandon everything because there is a virus, we have to eat too! We need to pay bills to not stay on the street. I am aware of the risk, but I am not for lock down, in long run it will hurt more than virus!
Even for older and weak someone has to work and provide food. People die every day, safety first, for older and weak this applies even more, but locking down all of us is just crazy in my opinion, but that happened and some people feel the consequences already.

There is no clear picture against the cruelty of current pandemic because the death rate of covid19 is falling below level of pre-assumed 2% and we are seeing a lot of people are recovering from it in less than 14 days as well. So, governments may think about relaxing the restrictions of lockdown so that they could start building their economy back. I mean I'm not seeing any of risk on planning about saving economic of a country. This could be the reason why governments are reopening all their business.

Governments cannot keep people within their home for longer than currently they are into. People must need some money to live which is possible for more than 50% people by going job. Only very few people must be having saving to lead their life and some other people are having the chances to work from home but most other people must need to go out to earn their life.

I think this is the right thing to do but I do not know if people will actually listen, we need to get back to our normal activities but this does not mean doing so in a way that put our lives at risk, we need to take all the necessary precautions and yet that is not what I see in my country, many people are not wearing face masks anymore and this could be very problematic as most likely this means the second wave of the pandemic it is going to be even worse than the first wave.

This pandemic really brought us huge changes on how we act or communicate with other people. There are a lot of factors that are affected, especially the economy of our country. The government implemented a new set of rules and regulations that must be followed in order to have a more safer surroundings.

There are new laws that will make us become more comfortable on how we engage with our environment. Hoping that this what we called "new normal" should help us recover from economic crisis as the government allow some businesses to open once again to have profits and recover from all the damage that this pandemic brought to us.

What is health if you have no foods in our table?what is health concern if you are slowly dying because of starvation?

we are too different in ways of living,yeah we are online person so we can make money inside internet but what about those people that needs physical just to do a living?lets be realistic,this Virus is stopping our future now,we must not afraid of this instead let us just do the precautionary measures to keep safer but life must go on,even wi or without this virus.


As what i've said above,Life must go on and let the government claim their profit because they have invested too much in this Pandemic and all of the resources has been spent so this time of payback,and this Corona must be face seriously but without Pausing our living.

You are totally right. We need at this time to save lives and not expose them. We must follow health controls to prevent the virus from spreading. If we manage to stay healthy, we gain time not to invest them in health centers. We also need to be patient, scientists are working hard to find a cure, but we must wait. Our mission is to follow the norm and use the masks, we take care of ourselves and others.

I believe that in this situation, when the world is faced with new challenges, including the coronavirus pandemic, to save the global economy, as well as the economy of each country individually, all governments must resort to non-standard solutions to solve the problems associated with a balanced the work of the state system and business. in my opinion, a very good step by the government will be an amnesty of capital and certain benefits for a particular business sector. the fact that today they are trying to solve the problem by reducing people and not paying salaries to these people, with these methods you can only achieve the opposite result and can not solve the problem.

these are the things that the government is doing right now, it is just that the things are not easy to handle especially it needs a full cooperation from all of us. Some govenrment is trying to open up the economy, they are trying to not let the economy decline as we are facing this pandemic and finding for the solution simultaneously.

Public vehicles are already rolling, what the problem is a huge number of people going to work. I think going to work with bicycle will be the new normal as safety precaution to the virus.

The death during the pandemic is inevitable, what we can do is to lessen the life expense.

I think what the government should do is to balance life and economy. Prioritize saving lives and saving the economy. It is their job to provide their people the safety they need going to work. In my country, when they ease the lockdowns, workers need better transpo with social distancing, more testing, and etc. As long as all the safety precautions are being followed, life and economy will be save. However, there are still some issues who aren't being prioritize. Some workers still have problems with transpo, so what can they do, they go for a long walk, or bike to work, then they need safer streets to go to work. Slow contact racing is a problem too, we still can't even flatten the curve.

Covid 19 problems should be the priority. We prioritize life during the lockdowns, now that they ease it for the economy, I hope life will not be the cost of it.

We need to recover from economic crisis that we are experiencing right now because it can affect how we live in the next few years. The good thing that the government here are giving chances to those small and big businesses to operate with the "new normal". There are new set of rules and regulations that they must follow in order to open and operate safely.

Huge businesses like universities, corporations, and etc, they are the most affected sectors of the economy as they are not allowed to open because they have huge volumes of customers.

Each and every governments should make an effective plan which they will use to make their economy recover and become stable. Some countries are now in a process of recovery and their economy is now moving well, so that they can retrieve all their budget that they've spent during lockdown. That's how they save their economy from this pandemic.

All pending activities, event and tournament has had a chance to operate again.Through the help of our good government and most especially our hero front liner's ,so far i saw the largest modification and the invironmental subject is probably turn to a cool and getting free but it doesn't mean that we will confirmed as confiding after they said that it is a real dealing of time for rebooting on economy that's because those specific decision is so unclear and I think it is basically allow to all unrestricted country of Free from pandemic.

I do not know what kind of population mistakes you are talking about. There are very poor countries where people have worked for a day and received money. There are no savings in these countries. The state did not support them. And what should they do? Do not starve to death? And I think it’s not worth blaming them for the ease of actions. They can also be quarantined and watch TV shows.

Exactly. If every people in a country knows how to collaborate with their government, even they make an awful mistakes. No one would be suffering in this situation of the pandemic because there are some people who are only good on putting all the blame to their government, but in reality they also make big mistakes in this current situation.

It is really difficult to overcome the current situation but the government is not able to do anything here because of how long people can sit idle like this That's why everything is restarted Adequate savings and opening up everything will lead to the expansion of business and the economy will improve very fast. But if people move freely the number of virus attacks will increase so we have to be careful as a development version of the economy.

That's true but i think government decide to reopen some business stablishment and transportation because of many people are arguing with the goverment and many hardheaded people that always disobey the rules of the government. They always said that they would not die of virus but starve. This current situation cause by the pandemic is really difficult both on the side of the people and government. The only one thing for me to prevent virus spreading if people collaborate with the government despite of difficulty .  We need to suffer now for a short time rather than many can die.

Unfortunately, the economic crisis with pandemic has had a very bad impact on both businesses and many states. For this reason, many countries have now decided to relax the measures and we see that many strict rules are not valid. I think a second wave will emerge as a result of these decisions and no measures will be taken this time. Yes, the businesses have started to be opened as mandatory because no contribution has been made by the governments, but this is not a very good thing. If there is a comment that needs to be taken from these decisions and events, it is actually that the economies of the country and money are more valuable than human life. I wish all the countries of the world were caught prepared for this situation and we would not witness the days like this.

Saving enables the production of capital goods, saving is obviously at the heart of the economic growth that raises people's living standards. Another important role of money is to serve as a medium of saving. Good for the economy because it increases productivity. No matter the savings rate, more savings will translate into more capital.

The percentage of people who die from coronavirus is so little.
It is not that businessman care about their money, but just consider how many people cannot live because they are not have money when they stop working and being on unemployment due to coronavirus. Rich will live but poor will not.

I believe the government took the decision to remove the quarantine is not easy, because there are risks that must be risked.
And I believe the government's decision is the best for now, because it's been more than 3 months there is no certainty about vaccines.
It is impossible to extend quarantine time, while the peoples has run out of money for living expenses. And not all work can be done
at home. So the choice of saving the economy is the best decision in my opinion.

When the global lock down broke out I was not convinced that it would be the solution. In the USA some weeks before the lockdown saw high level of shopping activities -all in preparation for the stay at home- but even at the lockdown cases was rising.
Areas such as
+ Business -small and large scale
+ Education
+  Tourism
+ Individual recreational schedule. -outing, dates, hangout etc-

And other areas will feel the heat, it was just only a matter of time before the lockdown would be easy -and not the finding out of the vaccine- total lockdown was not the solution as we could see now, other measures aimed at reducing the spread but not crippling individual and the nation economy

Save the economy at the expense of additional budged health and additional funeral expenses. Because in reality with the presence or absence of quarantine, the number of positive covid-19 patients continues to increase, and in the end, for the community, the number of sufferers and the death rate is only a number.

The end of quarantine is also an implied language that "the ability of the government to sustain the deficit budged is enough to end here". Education during quarantine is enough to make people wise to behave and respond to corona. Starting from the origin to the effects ranging from mild to deadly. The deadly surge that occurred in Italy with health facilities that are not supportive and the practice of prioritizing patients who might be able to be saved who are treated, is considered to have a horror effect for the people.

The socialization of standardization of behavior during the pandemic has been given. Start using masks, diligently wash hands, and use hand sanitizers, not crowding, and keep a distance. So now people from the level of individuals, institutions, entertainment and recreation facilities, companies, schools to places of worship are considered to have been intelligent and well educated about covid-19. For healthy choices, sickness, or ending in a grave, the choice is left to the people. This is also a pandemic management strategy using semi herd immunity (ignoring the availability of adequate health services). So which one is your choice?

We can't afford to just stay and hope and wait for the support of the government, the vaccine as per news will be available next year, so that means we need to wait for 6 months or more and staying at home would help to minimize the virus spread but it has bigger negative effect on the economy.

The law has to be strictly implemented as we have protocol in place already, that's what the government has to do, but then, it will not be fully successful if we, people are not responsible and supportive of the measures implemented by the government.

We have no choice at this moment, though health is our first priority but if our economy will struggle, slowly we will all die and that's the sad reality.

We are not ready for this pandemic, the OP has a point when it comes to the welfare and survival of the citizens, but the problem is that we do not know how to cope our system with the revival of economy while simultaneously ensuring the well being of the masses, I agree that we should prioritize the lives of our people but how can we make sure that they will survive in the long run if the government do not open the economy, more lives will suffer in the long run if the continouos closure of economy due to the pandemic, the collapse of economy will ensue hunger if not threated early, remember when West Berlin was dying of starvation because they lost the war and they are held by USSR, it is a different circumstance but the pattern is the same, be it war or pandemic, economy will collapse if there is no circulation.

I agree with you, many poor countries cannot support their population. And people work to provide for themselves and their loved ones. But maybe the virus is not so dangerous, because it is more real to die from hunger than from a virus that you might not get infected.

You have a very good and reasonable advice. I know that everyone has a personal life and has a lot of work to solve, but if we are too personal, it will affect the community greatly. As he mentioned above, we should have a habit of wearing a mask, washing hands before touching the face and especially avoiding the road when there is no need. Those are the actions that we need to take if we want corona virus to be controlled early. sacrifice your time, you will save the economy of the world in the future. Hope everyone here is well aware of that.

Yes thats right vaccine is only cure to the virus but still not existed and we dont know when its make. Yes quarantine is really not solution to stop the spreading virus and if we want to work too we need mask as a little protection to us . But its not safe and the one that i know is to find a some work online , so that i make some  cash even i stay home and also my family are safe in pandemic.

Saving the economy of a nation at the cost of our life. Yes, in many developing to underdeveloped countries people started starving due to lockdown hence there could be no other solutions for those governments except lifting the lockdown restrictions along with the instructions of mandatory social distancing and masks wearing. Fortunately the rate of death due to covid19 is not significant compared to most other new diseases of last few decades which could be the another reason governments started risking our lives for saving economy .

It seems we might need to lead our usual life among this virus and patients of covid by wearing masks and by using sanitizers on hands and our touchable everyday things. Tier1 countries may support people by feeding them to keep them staying within home but that is not possible for most other countries hence we cannot expect to continue lockdown.

The virus will never go away unless somebody comes up with a very effective medicine. Masks won't prevent the virus from spreading neither.

It is impossible to quarantine the major cities forever and It is not wise to stop the economy neither because people die from hunger.

Long story short, there isn't a solution to this problem, yet.

Since we try to do them both, quarantine and work at the same time, we will suffer from both. Die from the virus and the hunger at the same time.

I am sure people will find a way to survive because we can use the internet to be more creative. Maybe that will work and help people to solve their problem in the finance side, but yes, that will be hard to apply for all people since not all people can use the internet. I think by we staying at home, and try to search for what we can do to survive, it is changing our habit, and we are forced to do something new that is out from our expectation. We will try many things to have our daily needs, and I am sure that we can pass this hard moment.

Most countries have already lifted their quarantine days and allowed their citizens already to go back to their respective jobs. But even if the government allowed this to happen, we should still follow strictly those restrictions that will keep us safe from not spreading corona virus. Wearing face mask and bringing hand sanitizers are a must but we should not still be comfotable with this since the best medicine which is the vaccine is still not out in the market.

The lockdown should be over to make economic sectors recover. There is no way to improve the economy by only staying at home. I cannot imagine if the lockdown lasts till a year, how can we survive to live. Even if it is still not the right time to go out, but I think as long as we follow the guide to prevent Covid-19, then it is no problem going out. Not all people can work from home, some only can work outside. Not all people have the same skills to work online and even some never know about online jobs. The situation is quite complicated but the only way to survive is by changing our habit, NOT staying at home forever.

in Europe alone the auto industry alone provides 5 million jobs, those people will not be able to work from home for too long. Yeah, a part might work from home in design, accounting, promotion, but if you don't produce the actual cars there is no need for that anymore. And that's one part of the industry, what are you going to with the petrochemical branch, without that there are no plastic derivates (meaning no bags, no packages, no masks!!) it means no fertilizer, it means no food!

And what about the people that must go to their daily job!
You still need electricity, you need water, you need medics and firemen, and ...employees at chain stores and delivery men.
Oh, those can be sacrificed, right? You might be able to stay at home but only with other people leaving their homes for work.

No, a continuous quarantine the sam ewe had in March-April in the EU would be impossible for the entire year.
Besides...look at Sweden!
It had far more relaxed measures and its mortality rate is still below the UK, Spain or Belgium.
  

The thing people are forgetting about is the fact that people can't just stay at home forever, there is no way humanity could survive not only economically but emotionally as well by staying at home for years, and we do not know when the vaccine will be ready. So, the best case we have right now is making people stay at home at a length, then curing the sick people we have, when everything looks better we will let people go outside again, they will get sick again and we will lockdown once again and cure the sicks we have.

That way instead of just putting everyone at home until vaccine, you are making sure that we are going outside at a rate where the sick people number doesn't go beyond the hospital capacity numbers. Its a calculated risk that we need to accept in order to continue life.

Countries need to take the risk for them to move forward. The world can't afford to just let remain idle while waiting for the vaccine to be made which is currently still on testing and the projected timeline might take a year or two. The fall of the economy is way more critical in the long-run.

I also didn't consider a continued lockdown as a solution to slow down the virus spread. Even at home and following the strict measures, other people got surprised how they became infected with the virus. The good thing is, some able to survive it without medications as they just continue their healthy lifestyle while being in quarantine. It does mean that the virus is curable without the actual medicine for it. Because of that, we can go back to business slowly as long as we are following the safety protocol which is now part of the new normal living.

The world is not clueless now on what the virus capable of. We do now have information about how to deal with the virus, at least. That's the subject of the lockdown. It's time now to take the risks, embrace the new normal, follow safety measures, and come back slowly into the business.

Countries and their leadership are more conscious of the benefits some countries are enjoying from the lockdown while taking their market and getting new ground. It is believed that the advent of the pandemic was with the mind of an economic war and the trend had not proved otherwise. However, new discovery have been helping to make better decision on treatment and prevention. Some of this measure will reduce the government spending on equipment such as ventilator that didnt give the desired result. Especially in USA more cases are seen in area of lockdown and familiar drug are advised to control the disease while everyone improve their immunity.

Well not at all, I saw that movie this year (though released in 2011) and covid-19 pandemic just seemed to be reacting everything that was acted in that movie, except on a deadlier/fatal basis.

The recovery rate worldwide is far higher than mortalities, that means the virus can be managed, and people can recover or also die, just the same possibilities with other diseases like Cancer, Tuberculosis, Cirrhosis etc. The reason why governments locked down their countries was cause of how fast the virus can spread. With the curve coming down in quite a lot of countries I don't see why they should not ease off the lockdowns.

The awareness has been created, everyone is now conscious of the presence of the virus. People have to go to work, businesses reopened and life reenacted again, the government locked down their countries then as they tried to get a clue of what was going on, now that there are effective preventive measures, life must and should go on.

The solution to this is the physical distancing and public provided shuttles. It's really a hard thing to go to work if you're far from it and there's no means of transportation. The transportation sector should be clear in providing help to the coming back workers as they're both striving to help not just for their families but also to the economy.

With regards to those guidelines, everyone should coordinate and help themselves too. Discipline will help each other to overcome this hardship. The cooperation that everybody will contribute is a big thing not just for the government but for every citizen.

The governments have no choice op. Extending lockdowns in many countries will only lead to more chaos which is why they are lifting them carefully.

Certain countries like New Zealand have found the optimal way to control the spread of the virus at present which is impressive and other governments can learn from them. World governments need to optimally control the spread of the virus and kickstart their economy.

This situation will probably stay this way until the middle of next year after which the vaccine would probably solve the problem worldwide.

Well for my community, it seems to me that things are getting worse. We already opened half of the economy bringing back the half of the jobs to the people whose inclined with the essential and basic job that we find safe as of now but the public transportation is not that well planned at all. I see people complaining in social media sites, those people who work from city to city needs to walk a very long road just to get on their workplace and I find it unsafe coz we know that the virus is attached any where. They might just caught it then spread it that way. New normal is slightly non-reliant for me now.

That's the problem facing by the government now, but totally closing the economy will just worsen the situation. What we need now is a strict implementation of rules and guidelines.
New norms shall be implemented wisely.

Governments have taken a calculated decision, at the beginning when there was almost no information of the virus they took the decision to protect the lives of their citizens regardless of the costs until they had a better understanding of the lethality of the virus, after 6 months it seems they have decided the damage to the economy caused by these measures will be greater than the damage the virus will cause by itself, still it is not as is everything has returned to normal, many business are still closed and people are still encouraged to take the preventive measures we all know by now.

So it is not like governments are prioritizing the economy above all we are still trying to figure out the optimal spot to take care of the health of people while still maintaining the economies of the world healthy as well.

currently economy of a country can only come down due to the level of their economy, secondly economy of country reduced due to management, thirdly economy of country can only reduces due to political crisis, fourthly economy of a country can come down due to disease, finally economy can come down due to war in the country.

1.economy of a country come down due to a level of the product or production of the country, this is the area a country need to diversified their economy for example a country that base on agricultural product and it happen that crude oil come up to the country and government of such country abandoned what was generating revenue to the country been agricultural industry and focus on natural mineral crude oil, that shows that the country is not diversefy in terms of economy,therefore anytime price of crude oil is down in exchange market automatically that country economy has come down,this is one of the major thing that brings economy down.

2.Second point,economy of a country come down because of management, management is one of the major thing in area of economy management, if people in control of the managing resources fails base on lack of policies it will contribute immensely to the down fall of the country, so any country have to take much measure to manage their country to avoid down fall of economy.

3. third point, political crisis is another problem causing down fall of a country economy, when there is a political problem in a country no of the leaders will protect the interest of the country all will be conscious of party affairs and some of government amenities that generate revenue can be sold out in other to maintain their positions, assuming that the country has only one sector that generate revenue and it has to sold out by pass leaders, what ease can generate income in such country.
All these is because of political crisis.

4.disease causes down fall of  a country economy currently corona virus pandemic is one of diseases that can bring down economy of a country down, because this pandemic Carrie's both shutdown of industries and increase in death rate in a country if their is no adequate treatment apply to the masses.
Because this disease can eliminate the country including the board of director's of country economy, and when it happens mismanagement of economy will take place therefore country economy will start going down.

5. Finally war causes down fall of a country economy,
When there is war in a country it Damage's many thing in a country before such will regain their economy it will take period of time.
Therefore leaders of a country have create policies that will enhance the growth of a country economy for the betterment of the country.

With the exemption of Vietnam you will see that most of the countries didn't risk to have an early lockdown or quarantine due to the hit their economy will take when most of their activity will be shutdown. Now they are risking the health of their own citizens by lifting the lockdown prematurely just to save the economy and keep it up and running so this time I don't think most of the governments have a choice but to lift the lockdown. I do think their only gameplan now is wait for a cure to arrive rather than contain it further now judging on how I read the news. Your statement about disposable masks isn't entirely correct, yeah the whole country might be wearing protective masks but if they always touch their face as well as move around their face masks they are just as good as wearing without them.

We are heading to the new normal. I've seen this post about the month of July which most of the international airports will be back in business and opening once again. Being an individual, as much as we want to stop the businesses back in operation, they have to.

A lot of jobs were already frozen during the quarantine period and we're in the middle of choosing what's best for us. Many will die of starvation if the government will run out of funds to sustain for the aid of its people. Not all of us have enough savings to fund our food until the virus is gone. There's no other choice for the governments but to push the economy to restart.

They reasoned we shouldn't be afraid of covid forever and that we should reopen the business for we all die anyway were just influenced by the big businessmen and politicians being influenced by these businessmen. These big businesses need to reopen their business because they only care for their money.

Life can go on without reopening yet because there are lives to save. Whats a government and business has to work on if there are no people left?
To live is not easy when infected already and a person with a family can contaminate everyone in a family and the next family who live nearby.

I believe, sadly, that the truth behind the spike in any country's number of infected cases of Coronavirus is that, the costs are so damn high that people don't even go to hospitals for a check-up unless someone else calls the emergency and gives their details so to save their own lives and others' too. That's a fact that people fear a lot to be found a positive of Coronavirus as they believe they should better die instead of being treated as the costs would give them a heart-attack (just like what happened in that $1.1 million bill case). Another thing is that, they get treated like animals in government hospitals if they are shifted at such hospitals due to not having the capability to pay the expenses.

It might be a little too soon, but we can't be locked up in our houses forever, not working and watching the world come to a stop.  If the virus was deadlier than it is, I'd say it's way too soon to reopen businesses and so forth, but we're not talking about a virus that's as deadly as the one in the movie Contagion.  If people keep their distance from one another, wash their hands, and wear face masks I think it'll work out just fine--or as good as it can be at least.

Everything is a risk in life, and this is no different.  Nor is this the first time in history a global epidemic has occurred; it's just the first one in about 100 years, so most people alive now don't recall the flu outbreak of 1918. 

Exactly.

Work from home isn't really a suitable solution for some work out there. Simple examples would be work regarding infrastructures and the like. Ofc, they could postpone that, but then again just like why they opened up the quarantine, it's because a lot would become jobless if it happens. Honestly, if there was a solution so that the economy would flow once again while letting the residents of their countries retain their safety, then the government would have probably done so, sadly, this was the best solution they could come up with temporarily.
Not really, nope. If it could, then the number of infected every day wouldn't have spiked up so much, especially for countries that were relatively prepared for the outbreak. Most of the countries that are done with the pandemic and are opening up nicely are those that actually actively tested and quarantined anyone that was infected. They immediately went for the root of the problem which was the spread of the virus, so they tried to find the sources or the infected, and so they did, which basically caused the number of infections to spike down.

I think most governments have these two major options, it's either they continue strict lockdown and might result in an economic recession, or start reopening businesses to save the economy even with the risk and just implement a protocol. No matter what they pick, there is still a big consequence and it's hard to make a decision since it involved millions of people in a single country. As for your suggestion, unfortunately, those who badly need income, can't work from home because the nature of their job requires physical skills such as construction workers, drivers, janitors, and more.

In my place, if you're going to a grocery or other shops, you can't enter without wearing a mask. But I think it will be harsh to penalize someone without a mask because what if they can't afford it? Instead of implementing a penalty, if authorities can see people without a mask, they should give them a free mask and talk to them about the importance of wearing a mask.

It's difficult for the government to make a wise decision because there are many factors to be considered that's why we also need to start to be more careful about ourselves and the environment. Getting infected or not starts with you if you are being careful or not. It's not just about what the government is trying to save, we are also responsible for taking care of ourselves.

The thing is very simple, you have the option to continue to aggressively protect human health while literally destroying your own economy, and I think there is no country in the world that can function in the long run without getting things back to normal. What is also meant by normal is the collection of taxes that fill the state treasuries, which in turn finance everything that is needed in everyday life.



I don't think that's the case, life must go on, even if it means that some people will die, but they also die every day from the common flu, traffic accidents, various diseases. What you may not be aware of is one very good news regarding the vaccine, and according to the latest information, it should be ready this fall for almost 400 million EU residents, and then for the rest of the world. This vaccine along with some others being developed gives new hope in the possible prevention of a second wave.


Did you know that the price of one package of 50 disposable masks is around 40-50 EUR in EU? Such masks are actually more of a cosmetic accessory because the virus passes through them without any problems. Masks that somewhat protect against viruses (not 100%) are marked FFP2/FFP3, and the price of one such mask is in retail between 4-5 EUR. Would you punish a man who has lost his job, has a family to feed and a loan to repay because he can’t afford a mask?

Not every business can be done from home. So like it or not, they need to go out to make money. I can understand the penalty thing if government also provide the masks for those who can't afford it (if there's any). They can also require every office, public place etc have a "sterilization" place.

Some people won't believe that it is really dangerous though, and will probably got COVID later on. Sometimes experience is the only thing that could change them.

Actually, that is not worth to do, but the government can not do anything unless they start to use a new rule for people who will go out of their home. People need money to survive, and we know that many of them lost their job in this pandemic, and that makes them search for the new job.

I am afraid if people are not concerned with their health while they are out there, that can trigger the second wave of Covid-19 because I see that many people now careless with their health. I already see many people don't use a mask while they drive with the vehicle, and even in the shopping market, people do not use social distancing when they pick any product.

I hope that the government can handle that, and I am sure that there will be some people who will still care about other people health and life so they will always remind people who have careless.

This is saving the economy at the cost of a lot of people possibly exposed to the corona virus.

I can still remember when my country implemented a national lockdown when the number of infection was still around 50. That was said to contain the spread of the virus. The number of infection was already reaching to the thousands when they finally decided to allow people to come out and go back to their works.

With that, my government is already giving up, at least economically. We haven't defeated the virus yet but the nation's economy is already raising the white flag.

And now, the process of natural selection seems to have taken over the wheel. Unfortunately, in this process among humans economic status plays a very vital role.

Look, we literally need to understand that this has now become something we need to live with, at least till a few more years or until a working vaccine takes place in the market. And for that, even if these bans have been lifted, there are still a lot more restrictions to be followed where temperature checks, wearing masks, sanitizing hands by washing them, washing your face after coming back from some place, etc. and many more measures are being taken by governments in order to save their citizens from getting infected.

Yes, it is true that coronavirus has made the economic side of the economy unusable and people are facing a lot of problems and because of this schools and colleges have been closed, the wheel of the economy has become stagnant and we have been able to keep the wheel of the economy moving.

I do think we do realize that the most important thing one should be concerned right now about is actually : Well being, Good health of his family and himself too.

When I go through the news I do realize that the government is prematurely removing the Quarantine , which might cost life of a lot of people .

• Bans on many Casinos was lifted
• The Flights have started operating
• Schools are going to start again

And much more !

I do think we should realize that even though we are moving forward to save the economy of the world , we are actually less concerned about COVID-19 now.

Is it worth it ?

Because even though we have strict regulations, even though people have been given strict rules to follow , they will still mess up !

I am aware of the counter argument : If this is not done people will still die ..Hungry , without being able to pay for the basic necessities

But I do think there should be some way , such as Quarantine is extended but still the Sectors Instead of asking people to come to the office continues to work from Home.

There should be Penalty on people for not wearing masks, might sound ridiculous for some but please understand that :

The second or Third wave of the virus can be prevented by 100% usage of masks .

With Risks increasing and possible economic collapse where are we headed to ?