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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on October 19, 2022, 09:48:23 AM

Quote from: Awaklara on October 18, 2022, 09:36:34 PM

Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on October 18, 2022, 09:00:59 PM

Does the forum allow such a service? I mean, I am from Bangladesh and PayPal is not allowed here. You are from Somewhere, verified it for me, and you got some dollars. Is this service like this? Do you think it's ethical? IDK. I didn't get it.

I'm still not sure about this knowledge of mine. but to my knowledge forums do not moderate such services.

That's all I found from the marketplace Rules thread. Suppose PayPal doesn't support my country, is it illegal as well?

Quote from: sirius on February 19, 2011, 12:34:02 PM

1. Trading of goods that are illegal in the seller's or buyer's country is forbidden.

Those who provide these services target crypto users around the world and open threads to provide services. Now that you know what is prohibited in your country, then you yourself will refrain from taking that service. By doing this, you will not have to face major problems in the future. Because what is prohibited in your country, maybe legal in another country.

And it's important to use escrow while doing any kind of transaction so you can avoid getting scammed.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on October 19, 2022, 03:48:52 AM

Quote from: JeromeTash on October 18, 2022, 04:47:31 PM

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Sounds like you are feeling bad for him not pulling a bigger amount 🤣
He only knows what he had in mind. Has anyone PMed him yet? I see his last long in date is 3 days ago.

He is moderate in scamming people, checked his post and he deleted all his announcement and changed it to

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done

maybe that done is he is done scamming people, I tagged the guy we don't know if he will come out again after a few months resolving this issue then scamming again, people should not take that tagged even if he resolve the issue, we know his history.

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Quote from: Awaklara on October 18, 2022, 09:36:34 PM

Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on October 18, 2022, 09:00:59 PM

Does the forum allow such a service? I mean, I am from Bangladesh and PayPal is not allowed here. You are from Somewhere, verified it for me, and you got some dollars. Is this service like this? Do you think it's ethical? IDK. I didn't get it.

I'm still not sure about this knowledge of mine. but to my knowledge forums do not moderate such services.

That's all I found from the marketplace Rules thread. Suppose PayPal doesn't support my country, is it illegal as well?

Quote from: sirius on February 19, 2011, 12:34:02 PM

1. Trading of goods that are illegal in the seller's or buyer's country is forbidden.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on October 18, 2022, 04:47:31 PM

What away to ruin a hero member account!

Sounds like you are feeling bad for him not pulling a bigger amount 🤣
He only knows what he had in mind. Has anyone PMed him yet? I see his last long in date is 3 days ago.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on October 18, 2022, 09:00:59 PM

Does the forum allow such a service? I mean, I am from Bangladesh and PayPal is not allowed here. You are from Somewhere, verified it for me, and you got some dollars. Is this service like this? Do you think it's ethical? IDK. I didn't get it.

I'm still not sure about this knowledge of mine. but to my knowledge forums do not moderate such services. somewhat similar to buying and selling accounts. allowed but not recommended.

I don't think anyone created such a service on the forums. I saw similar cases in social media groups. pay people to verify on certain platforms. for referrals or new user events.

if judging ethical or not, personally of course unethical. we know the goal is to get more profit from the events created by the platform. it looks like a bounty cheater on the forums.

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While everyone thinks about who is a scammer and who is not. I am thinking, is it allowed to create such a service thread? Does the forum allow such a service? I mean, I am from Bangladesh and PayPal is not allowed here. You are from Somewhere, verified it for me, and you got some dollars. Is this service like this? Do you think it's ethical? IDK. I didn't get it.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on October 18, 2022, 04:47:31 PM

I think a red flag is also equally important, especially for newbies and guest users. So I am creating one

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3039

Actually you created a yellow (type 1) flag, which I supported. A red flag should only be created by the individual who was scammed. Interestingly enough, YoYa scammed someone for $65 almost 3 years ago. then showed up 8 months later to make good. Do I see a pattern?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53383932

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on October 11, 2022, 08:30:54 AM

For the record I don't have any sympathy for OP. Both OP and YoYa was doing unethical ID verification. But this case makes me realize that people are at risk to response Yoya's service thread and he will not pay them later. This deserves a tag with warning which I am going to leave on his wall.

I think a red flag is also equally important, especially for newbies and guest users. So I am creating one

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3039

What away to ruin a hero member account!

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Quote from: examplens on October 11, 2022, 03:07:45 PM

Quote from: Stalker22 on October 11, 2022, 02:13:22 PM

YoYa has faced similar accusations before: Scammed by seller YOYA (Hero member) for $65
Interestingly, the dispute was eventually resolved and YoYa returned the money to the buyer, but eight months later!

To be clear, I do not support these kinds of deals, but I am adding another negative to YoYa's account to warn other members who might fall for his scam in the future. It is funny to think that his Hero level account was worth much more than a measly $50 before it was ruined with a negative reputation. Cheesy

Yes, I marked YoYa negatively too.
I thought that maybe he would come here and say something in his defense as a Hero member. however, he does two very bad things here, he does not pay others what he promised and trade with someone's else IDs.

This account unless his tag is showing can scam newbies because he has a legendary account and we all know that a Legendary account without a flag is deemed trusted by the community, a flag should be created on his account so he cannot take advantage again using his rank, I don't know what's going on his mind a legendary account is worth a lot of money but prefer to ruin in for a mere $50, maybe he has a lot of high ranks alt account here that he disregard this one.

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Quote from: Stalker22 on October 11, 2022, 02:13:22 PM

YoYa has faced similar accusations before: Scammed by seller YOYA (Hero member) for $65
Interestingly, the dispute was eventually resolved and YoYa returned the money to the buyer, but eight months later!

To be clear, I do not support these kinds of deals, but I am adding another negative to YoYa's account to warn other members who might fall for his scam in the future. It is funny to think that his Hero level account was worth much more than a measly $50 before it was ruined with a negative reputation. Cheesy

Yes, I marked YoYa negatively too.
I thought that maybe he would come here and say something in his defense as a Hero member. however, he does two very bad things here, he does not pay others what he promised and trade with someone's else IDs.

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YoYa has faced similar accusations before: Scammed by seller YOYA (Hero member) for $65
Interestingly, the dispute was eventually resolved and YoYa returned the money to the buyer, but eight months later!

To be clear, I do not support these kinds of deals, but I am adding another negative to YoYa's account to warn other members who might fall for his scam in the future. It is funny to think that his Hero level account was worth much more than a measly $50 before it was ruined with a negative reputation. Cheesy

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Quote from: examplens on October 10, 2022, 04:36:06 PM

For YoYa this is not the only case, obviously, he needed more verified accounts.

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owes me $100 for an i.d verification. he then delete's his thread; https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/deleted-5416100

For the record I don't have any sympathy for OP. Both OP and YoYa was doing unethical ID verification. But this case makes me realize that people are at risk to response Yoya's service thread and he will not pay them later. This deserves a tag with warning which I am going to leave on his wall.

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Quote from: Pmalek on October 10, 2022, 08:53:12 AM

The thing is, you used Telegram to deal with the other person. Telegram allows any of the two parties to delete the complete conversation history for both sides. If you didn't make screenshots of the conversation with YoYa, you have no proof that you were scammed. Never use Telegram to deal with strangers. If this deal was conducted over the forum's PM system, you would have everything you need to prove you did your part, but YoYa disappeared and didn't pay you.

Use the forum PMs or a trusted escrow whenever in doubt.

this is a trade between two scammers, I don't know if the OP also deserves any support here except for the red tag. Screenshot that robelneo shared here, where OP says "I could help you with some IDs" It looks to me like he is also trading someone else's ID. I really cannot have sympathy for such people.

For YoYa this is not the only case, obviously, he needed more verified accounts.

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=18557

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owes me $100 for an i.d verification. he then delete's his thread; https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/deleted-5416100

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The thing is, you used Telegram to deal with the other person. Telegram allows any of the two parties to delete the complete conversation history for both sides. If you didn't make screenshots of the conversation with YoYa, you have no proof that you were scammed. Never use Telegram to deal with strangers. If this deal was conducted over the forum's PM system, you would have everything you need to prove you did your part, but YoYa disappeared and didn't pay you.

Use the forum PMs or a trusted escrow whenever in doubt.

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Quote from: bets21 on October 06, 2022, 02:04:48 PM

He deleted the thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61069315
Its about verification.
He dont pay me $50
So i sent him PM and my telegram ID then he contact me
He said for paxful account.
After i give verification for paxful he blocked my telegram

It's too careless for you to accept this kind of job without getting an escrow or screenshot all your conversation even on telegram. You are selling your identity for 50$ yet you are not thinking on how to secure first the payment before you will do the job.

I really believe that there is something wrong on this transaction since a user will not delete the service offer thread if he didn't do anything wrong. He should just lock it if he is not interested anymore while deleting it only shows that he is deleting evidence. OP shoild cooperate to help other user to avoid this kind of transactions.

Yoya's trust history is also not that good maybe they shouldn't have removed the negative trust when he payed what he owed. Also he can sell those verified accounts to shady people since its not tied to his identity. I dont know why OP agreed to this deal he can face possible legal prosecution in the future.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on October 06, 2022, 04:18:42 PM

You should include more proof if you want to be believed. Next time, make sure you archive your telegram chat messages before they are deleted or even use and escrow.
Also avoid self-moderated threads looking for services or loans, most scammers hide behind them.

Ok i will attach the proof

I think OP is not interested anymore in the $50 as he is not attaching any proof or updating us on the status of the accusation, Yoya is also not online for the last two days OP should make Yoya be aware of this thread so he can address it, even if it's $50 this is a reference that is attached to his account, people will not transact to Yayo if this issue still exists.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on October 06, 2022, 04:18:42 PM

You should include more proof if you want to be believed. Next time, make sure you archive your telegram chat messages before they are deleted or even use and escrow.
Also avoid self-moderated threads looking for services or loans, most scammers hide behind them.

Ok i will attach the proof

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Quote from: bets21 on October 06, 2022, 02:04:48 PM

He deleted the thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61069315
Its about verification.
He dont pay me $50
So i sent him PM and my telegram ID then he contact me
He said for paxful account.
After i give verification for paxful he blocked my telegram

You can access the deleted thread through ninjastic, I made a screenshot for everyone to see and we'll wait for YoYa to address the issue I also saw one offer in the service section, I think it's his offer, you should include the exchange of message here in Bitcointalk if there is any

https://ninjastic.space/topic/5416106

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You should include more proof if you want to be believed. Next time, make sure you archive your telegram chat messages before they are deleted or even use and escrow.
Also avoid self-moderated threads looking for services or loans, most scammers hide behind them.

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He deleted the thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61069315
Its about verification.
He dont pay me $50
So i sent him PM and my telegram ID then he contact me
He said for paxful account.
After i give verification for paxful he blocked my telegram

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