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I found the ico project is running bounty program, cashbery coin- token CBC. along with another cashbet coin project

web cashbet coin: https://cashberycoin.com/
web cashbery coin: https://coin.cashbet.com/

please discuss. Thank you



What do you mean? Please write more specifically...
We seeing these tokens first time
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hahahahha the project god dead just before it got born LOL
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I found the ico project is running bounty program, cashbery coin- token CBC. along with another cashbet coin project

web cashbet coin: https://cashberycoin.com/
web cashbery coin: https://coin.cashbet.com/

please discuss. Thank you

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Nice! Good job bro! Clear scam! I also have my portfolio of scam projects at shitcoinoffering.com


Well, you know... Both the website of Neo Finance and yours are like birds of a feather)) looking so much awful for perception Undecided
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hahahahha the project god dead just before it got born LOL

We know how to take wit, so thank you for raising our spirits. Pre-sale successfully launched, the project is alive and ready to develop further. Thank you for being with us. We are preparing for the first presentation of Neo Finance in London on 01.09.2018, details in our social networks. Follow the news.
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Nice! Good job bro! Clear scam! I also have my portfolio of scam projects at shitcoinoffering.com


Oh man, your website is as disgusting...as your content is interesting!  Grin (and that's what counts after all! good job)
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Nice! Good job bro! Clear scam! I also have my portfolio of scam projects at shitcoinoffering.com

Just empty words about scam. It looks like you could sell even you mother for a penny having a chance to ad and promote your website for free! Grin
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Nice! Good job bro! Clear scam! I also have my portfolio of scam projects at shitcoinoffering.com
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That is blatant lie, but what else can we expect from shill?

look, If to use the reactive shit-thrower before the ico launch then you can ruin even the most promising and honest project and scare off potential investors! about neo-finance I can just say that I like their innovative idea with a loan service on crypto-currencies bail, no more


That happens for a reason let me explain why this shit shower happens..

Because you are trying to Steal hard earned money/crypto from people that are either gullable or new to crypto and if u keep doing that over and over and over those people getting scammed wont be back and they will tell their friends how they got scammed in Crypto.

That Hurts Everyone thats not trying to scam people as well ,it takes money out of Our collective pockets and the money you scammers take out of crypto will not be invested in other promising crypto projects that will just dissapear in fiat into your pockets.

Thats the reason this "shit shower" is happening because people are sick and tired of scumbags like yourself crippling the buisness we are in.

We are not trying to blackmail anyone we are  trying to stop you and ur buddies from scamming our fellow cryptonians.( sais We but I cant speak for the others but that's what I am doing Smiley

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they usually blackmail ceo of the projects extorting a lot of money from them for their silence.
That is blatant lie, but what else can we expect from shill?
look, If to use the reactive shit-thrower before the ico launch then you can ruin even the most promising and honest project and scare off potential investors! about neo-finance I can just say that I like their innovative idea with a loan service on crypto-currencies bail, no more
Fixed that quote for you.

If you read it again, you will see that your reply doesn't make much sense.
Who is blackmailing fake CEO of a company which doesn't exist and who is extorting money?

Address this:

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At the moment, several organizations are taking up our initial sponsorship.

Which organizations?
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That is blatant lie, but what else can we expect from shill?

look, If to use the reactive shit-thrower before the ico launch then you can ruin even the most promising and honest project and scare off potential investors! about neo-finance I can just say that I like their innovative idea with a loan service on crypto-currencies bail, no more
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hmmmmmm the thread smells like a custom black PR campaign against neofinance.
I smell shill.
heard that there's a kind of mafia at the forum that mixes with shit every new ico preventing it from developing.
Someone call them "forum mafia" but I like to call them "bitcointalk mafia". They are running around forum and exposing scammers for what they are.
they usually blackmail ceo of the projects extorting a lot of money from them for their silence.
That is blatant lie, but what else can we expect from shill?

Don't you have some other place to be?
no i dont vape
Oh we are not alone in this Universe.
I spend lot of my time on the internet but sometimes I like to go off for weeks.
Roll Eyes
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We are glad to welcome you! Thank you for being with us. Despite numerous attempts to doubt our project, we continue to fight for the right to sell our product, because we have the right to do so.
Everyone who spends time trying to find reasons to push investors away from our project, we express our enormous gratitude. we know that all this implies a waste of time and attention to our project, and this is still work. Thanks you! But our goal is clear, the position is clear, the product is in demand, the team is cohesive.
So instead of directly addressing the accusation of using fake profile photos, you break out the corporate PR-speak in broken English no less.  I really want to hear your explanation as to why those people you claim to be team members are actually other people who appear to have had their pictures stolen from the internet.

It'd be really interesting if someone tried to contact the actual people whose pictures were stolen and make them aware of this thread.  I'd love to hear their response.

Edit: Neg trust added to his profile.  This is shady beyond belief.
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hmmmmmm the thread smells like a custom black PR campaign against neofinance. figuratively speaking, neofinance has not caught fire yet but they already smelled the smoke lol
heard that there's a kind of mafia at the forum that mixes with shit every new ico preventing it from developing. they usually blackmail ceo of the projects extorting a lot of money from them for their silence. It also looks like this
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Would you give your money to the bank which can't be found nowhere, with fake directors and fake team, with spelling errors on site (for example - "click here for online benking", "requost credit cerd"), screaming "give me your money and stop asking questions"?

/I ll let you into a secret that you will tell no one : there are so many banks that work online and dont have any offices at all, but they have couriers who deliver credit cards. Will that work for you?? )))0 
No.
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I even like the website of my bank (where I`m a VIP client) less than this one, so what?? Will my bank also get scammed soon??)))0 lol
Would you give your money to the bank which can't be found nowhere, with fake directors and fake team, with spelling errors on site (for example - "click here for online benking", "requost credit cerd"), screaming "give me your money and stop asking questions"?
Sure you are.  Roll Eyes

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see the URL name (not the content) https://neofinance.io/#baunty  ....baunty
see the right menu with "AdwiserCheesy

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Yep, they only tested Ripple algorithm. But now no one use it. Where is Ripple now? Same like other altcoins.  



Oh, boy, really? So, where is so popular and powerful Bitcoin right now? Same like the whole market   Cheesy

You are funny, too. Grin
Did I say something good about bitcoin? No. It's just first crypto. That's why price is still very high (more than $6000)
I see a real use-cases only for smart contracts on the ethereum blockchain. This is what developers around the world use every day to create new projects. Everything else is still not needed by anyone.
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Yep, they only tested Ripple algorithm. But now no one use it. Where is Ripple now? Same like other altcoins.  



Oh, boy, really? So, where is so popular and powerful Bitcoin right now? Same like the whole market   Cheesy

You are funny, too. Grin
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Santander, UniCredit, UBS, ReiseBank, CIBC were among the latest banks that adopted Ripple algorithm.
That`s what a real product mean.
Yep, they only tested Ripple algorithm. But now no one use it. Where is Ripple now? Same like other altcoins. 


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Just the same about Neo Finance.

There can be (as you say) an amazing, highly professional team that sells air, and can be a team that`s  developing a real product. I choose the last one since it's a product that has a real value, not an amazing team.  

Whaaaaaat?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
same about Neo Finance; a product that has a real value
What do you smoke?) It's scam, dude.
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How often do you see people use this comma symbol
Code:
`
instead of a normal apostrophe
Code:
'

Well, it turns out to be very popular... Cheesy







To not be completely off-topic, NEO Finance has postponed the launch of their ICO due to smart contract issues.  Cry
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From sharing about your favorite movie, favorite book, game and how to lose weight or make friends you casually decided to shill for a scam project, now why would you do that, obvious shill is obvious.

Being an ordinary man, I`m interested in everyday life`s topics for discussion. Like you, I also watch movies, read books, play games and take decisions for investments.
Instead of making argumentation and leading a discussion, you`ve just enlisted almost everybody in the shill list. Good of you! Very strong position!  Grin
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@Camir and @Madelott

You are both funny. Deleting all your previous posts in the forum and start to post only here in this thread. Stop to think people are naive because it' s not the case. Your accounts are quite suspicious, I wouldn't be surprised if both accounts are owned by the same person And your arguments have a very low level.

Yes, the website is ugly it's not a secret, it takes 15 minutes to make the same shit. From where the designer learned to design
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From sharing about your favorite movie, favorite book, game and how to lose weight or make friends you casually decided to shill for a scam project, now why would you do that, obvious shill is obvious.


I bought the tokens when they cost $0.02 per one.
After that the price of the Ripple token was more than $3.


So why do you need to create a scam project then? (for reference Camir=Beadieri=Madelott=BlueWhales=Bounty_NEO Finance), my understanding is you sold at ATH.  Grin



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Nobody cares on the product!  

I`ve never heard such a foolhardy thing in my entire life.

The best example of such kind of projects is Ripple and its ICO. I bought the tokens when they cost $0.02 per one. It was last year and they had a real product - a global platform for network of banks that send and receive payments.
Santander, UniCredit, UBS, ReiseBank, CIBC were among the latest banks that adopted Ripple algorithm.
After that the price of the Ripple token was more than $3.

That`s what a real product mean.

Just the same about Neo Finance.

There can be (as you say) an amazing, highly professional team that sells air, and can be a team that`s  developing a real product. I choose the last one since it's a product that has a real value, not an amazing team.  


 
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nothing is done properly, they just created a website in hurry (that's why it'a very ugly one despite their designer follow the "best marketing methods" <=  Cheesy ) created some social network pages and voila!

So what if the site has been recently registered? Have a look at the roadmap! It`s absolutely clear that there was a platform concept development as such from April to July! This is the first step of the project existence to my mind, and Neo Finance doesn’t even hide this! They fairly wrote about this.
It`s unclear why the website should be old enough if the idea itself was born a few months ago.

no matter if there is a product developed later

Really? I have always thought that the product is the main indicator for investing money. No product - no investments. That`s how I see it.

product is the main indicator for investing money
Are you kidding me?  Cheesy Can you give as an example few projects which finished their product after ico and token was increased on exchanges?)
Nobody cares on the product! No one dApp can start due to lack of good(fast+safety) blockchain. No one product for real business can start due to lack of legalization from government, etc. So nobody cares on the product. For now the main indicators are hyip(popularity) score, strong marketing team, strong development team, strong advisers(for the best listings), project thematics and state of the crypto market.
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nothing is done properly, they just created a website in hurry (that's why it'a very ugly one despite their designer follow the "best marketing methods" <=  Cheesy ) created some social network pages and voila!

So what if the site has been recently registered? Have a look at the roadmap! It`s absolutely clear that there was a platform concept development as such from April to July! This is the first step of the project existence to my mind, and Neo Finance doesn’t even hide this! They fairly wrote about this.
It`s unclear why the website should be old enough if the idea itself was born a few months ago.

no matter if there is a product developed later

Really? I have always thought that the product is the main indicator for investing money. No product - no investments. That`s how I see it.
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Which expert would like to have his name tied with the photo of someone else? Using your logic it would be ok to create an ICO using Kardashian selfies.

It`s really a very unusual team`s approach, but I believe that it`s still premature to draw any conclusions if this project is a scam, or not. It will be clear only during the project development. And it`s ridiculous to rely on some photos and weird design in your argumentation. Let`s give the guys a chance to show what they really can! The time will show.

How is it ridiculous? It's a huge red flag, enough to avoid the project, no matter if there is a product developed later. I am used with projects and people using fake photos and steal identity (not related to crypto) Trust me in 99,99999% of the cases it turns out to be just a scam or a pyramid scheme.
This  scam has so many red flags, nothing is done properly, they just created a website in hurry (that's why it'a very ugly one despite their designer follow the "best marketing methods" <=  Cheesy ) created some social network pages and voila!

edit:
see the URL name (not the content) https://neofinance.io/#baunty  ....baunty
see the right menu with "Adwiser"  Cheesy
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Which expert would like to have his name tied with the photo of someone else? Using your logic it would be ok to create an ICO using Kardashian selfies.

It`s really a very unusual team`s approach, but I believe that it`s still premature to draw any conclusions if this project is a scam, or not. It will be clear only during the project development. And it`s ridiculous to rely on some photos and weird design in your argumentation. Let`s give the guys a chance to show what they really can! The time will show.
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I forgot to mention, Beadieri=Madelott, same guy.

I would like to ask, where do you report cyber crime in Russia?
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At least we know the origin of the project - Russia, judging by the last two shill comments.  Grin

Too bad they not gonna make it for Dar Marrakesh meetup, NCA agents would've love to meet you.
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. So according to you, you are fine with stealing identity pictures just because you "do not consider it objectively and not applicable to your project" and you "analyzed" a photo…
As for the photographs allegedly taken from the runoff and their attitude to public coverage of personal life, we already answered earlier. Read the previous posts. Save both our and your time.

Yes, Yes, Yes. I understand you steal photos from someone else on the WWW just because you think it looks great, and you're okay with the consequences! Don't try to spin the problem "Save both our and your time."


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Best marketing techniques? we are in 2018 not in 1990!
Ok, next time we will definitely turn to you for help, in case we need consultations on the topic of "Design". You have a wonderful taste.

Oh man, no way! I don't want to find me listed on your website with a name found with FakeNameGenerator and a personal photo taken from a doctors profile directory or Pixabay.
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Why do you need our exact location? Do you want to come to visit us for a meeting? Well, the headquarters of our project with developers is located in England, in London. If you have a great desire to meet with us personally, then we invite you to the seminar. We are pleased to announce the forthcoming first presentation of Neo MEETing in London on 01.09.2018. Theme of the meeting: product presentation and technical solutions. It was decided to meet in a cozy atmosphere of the restaurant "Dar Marrakesh" located at 422 Edgware Rd, Marylebone. For participation, please send an e-mail to [email protected], indicate "Warm welcome" in the subject line, and provide your contact details in the body of the letter.

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Email: [email protected]
Telephone: 0370 496 7622

Units 1 - 6 Citadel Place,
Tinworth Street,
London SE11 5EF

What time do we expect your presentation to start? I'm sure they will love to meet you.
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Why is not possible to arrange a live AMA with few team members about the ICO ? (It is not required,bit since the ICO as many redflags)

Because they want to collect $60M anonymously, they have CEO, CTO, COO but they don't have company, they don't want to say to investors who their executive officers are although they used fake pictures(names Huh)  of the team , they don't want to make video to show to investors that they are serious, they don't want to say where their office is located but they want to meat in some restaurant in a month from now(but you have to send them email with your contact details  Roll Eyes).

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At the moment, several organizations are taking up our initial sponsorship.

Which organizations?
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Spoiler: we warn in advance, we are not going to answer several times the same questions. Read the previous messages, let's save both your and our time together, but nevertheless, thank in advance the participants of the discussion, for having chosen the time and spent it on our project.
We at once prepared a list of answers to all the previous questions. Unfortunately we can not respond right away, because the working group currently has priority on the marketing component and development.
We begin to catch up. Github and FB begin to fill with news, the life of the project is gaining momentum. The whole working group got acquainted with the incoming questions: during the discussion, they laughed and were cautious, made some conclusions. Did not expect such a hot meeting with experts and critics, but apparently the current situation in the ICO products market makes itself felt.

Let's proceed to the answers:
1. Where is your company registered?
While we are in the developer mode, we have the right to work without registration. At the moment, several organizations are taking up our initial sponsorship.

2. Your official name is Neo Finance LTD, right?
NO! NOT PROPERLY! Why did not you wait for an answer to your question, you started the topic that we are copying the company from England?
We did not state in one source of Crypto-Media, in the documentation and descriptions that we are a registered company with the name "NEO FINANCE Ltd.", or did you make such a conclusion after seeing LTD in LinkedIn? This is a social network in which any person can specify even the potential name of their future company. Or you claim that we will not be able to register an organization called NEO Finance Ltd. it already exists and no one will allow us to do this? And the more so, we did not in any way indicate our attitude to the company NEO Finance, registered in England under number 07165501! Our road map shows the company's registration
Also, we have not used one text or one wording of anything from the site of this organization. We have different types of activities. That is why, the user of the Bitcointalk forum, with the nickname Hellmouth42, we ask you not to relate us to this organization any more and to agitate the other readers of this forum to an expression of negativity in this regard!

3. Where can we find your office?
Why do you need our exact location? Do you want to come to visit us for a meeting? Well, the headquarters of our project with developers is located in England, in London. If you have a great desire to meet with us personally, then we invite you to the seminar. We are pleased to announce the forthcoming first presentation of Neo MEETing in London on 01.09.2018. Theme of the meeting: product presentation and technical solutions. It was decided to meet in a cozy atmosphere of the restaurant "Dar Marrakesh" located at 422 Edgware Rd, Marylebone. For participation, please send an e-mail to [email protected], indicate "Warm welcome" in the subject line, and provide your contact details in the body of the letter.

4. Best marketing techniques? we are in 2018 not in 1990!
Ok, next time we will definitely turn to you for help, in case we need consultations on the topic of "Design". You have a wonderful taste.

5. So according to you, you are fine with stealing identity pictures just because you "do not consider it objectively and not applicable to your project" and you "analyzed" a photo…
As for the photographs allegedly taken from the runoff and their attitude to public coverage of personal life, we already answered earlier. Read the previous posts. Save both our and your time.

6. Their github account is new and empty (and they claim the project is in active development!)
At the moment we will post the work in github that we want, we have several accounts and enough material for further publication, everything has its time. You will no doubt be able to observe the course of action, do not worry.

7. I dare the ICO owner (scammer) to make live video AMA with all the team members to prove that their team and ICO is legit
 Since when did the video with the team become an indispensable condition for the crowdsfunding of the product through ICO?


8. Until then, this is a SCAM ICO for me
We respect the opinion of everyone, regardless of what it is: positive or negative. You are the only user who managed to correctly express their attitude to our project, and not the ratio for the rest.

9. ... about the Fajing Sun, your advisor.This guy looks damn good at investing ("One of the first to invest in Paypal") but also to delete all traces of himself on the web.
I quote the answer that we published earlier: "Take for example the fact: how do you think how many crypto-billionaires try to stay anonymous, because can fall under further pressure from the state authorities of the country of their stay or the country of their business.
No, we do not in any way claim that our team uses extraneous names, surnames, photographs and so on. We simply adhere to the rules of conducting a quality business that can lead our company to success and provide you with a developed product that can change the world and make it richer. "

10. How's the weather in Russia?
We think, judging by the weather forecast - the same as we have at the moment, a little cooler))) And since you can always drive "Find the weather in Russia" in the search bar of your browser and find many websites and online services on this topic. And still there is an opportunity to watch the weather for several days in a row.


You evaded to reply single answer straight forward
You should have atleast posted some verifiable information
Why is not possible to arrange a live AMA with few team members about the ICO ? (It is not required,bit since the ICO as many redflags)
You should have atleast said,we will certainly  try to do it,but instead you want avoid it.

Best of Luck !
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2. Your official name is Neo Finance LTD, right?
NO! NOT PROPERLY! Why did not you wait for an answer to your question, you started the topic that we are copying the company from England?
We did not state in one source of Crypto-Media, in the documentation and descriptions that we are a registered company with the name "NEO FINANCE Ltd.", or did you make such a conclusion after seeing LTD in LinkedIn? This is a social network in which any person can specify even the potential name of their future company. Or you claim that we will not be able to register an organization called NEO Finance Ltd. it already exists and no one will allow us to do this? And the more so, we did not in any way indicate our attitude to the company NEO Finance, registered in England under number 07165501! Our road map shows the company's registration
Also, we have not used one text or one wording of anything from the site of this organization. We have different types of activities. That is why, the user of the Bitcointalk forum, with the nickname Hellmouth42, we ask you not to relate us to this organization any more and to agitate the other readers of this forum to an expression of negativity in this regard!

This is the name of your company that appears in your WP and on your OWN LinkedIn page, what more can you say?
When you created your "brand", nobody took 10 minutes on google to do some checking?

Alternative Universe, somewhere, not in UK, 3 weeks ago:

"Okay guys, I checked, NEO Finance is probably not a good idea...: they already exist and in the UK they're crooks!..." "Damn....Okay! Let's call ourselves Bit Connect (ltd.)!", "brilliant!"






By the way, why did the team's LinkedIn pages disappear?

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9. ... about the Fajing Sun, your advisor.This guy looks damn good at investing ("One of the first to invest in Paypal") but also to delete all traces of himself on the web.
I quote the answer that we published earlier: "Take for example the fact: how do you think how many crypto-billionaires try to stay anonymous, because can fall under further pressure from the state authorities of the country of their stay or the country of their business.
No, we do not in any way claim that our team uses extraneous names, surnames, photographs and so on. We simply adhere to the rules of conducting a quality business that can lead our company to success and provide you with a developed product that can change the world and make it richer. "


WORST. ARGUMENT. EVER

"crypto-Billionaires" who want to stay "anonymous" ....don't become advisors for ICO. Real life.

In short, it is useless to spend more time anyway: you have stolen photos and lied about the identity of your team/advisors, the rest is background.



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Spoiler: we warn in advance, we are not going to answer several times the same questions. Read the previous messages, let's save both your and our time together, but nevertheless, thank in advance the participants of the discussion, for having chosen the time and spent it on our project.
We at once prepared a list of answers to all the previous questions. Unfortunately we can not respond right away, because the working group currently has priority on the marketing component and development.
We begin to catch up. Github and FB begin to fill with news, the life of the project is gaining momentum. The whole working group got acquainted with the incoming questions: during the discussion, they laughed and were cautious, made some conclusions. Did not expect such a hot meeting with experts and critics, but apparently the current situation in the ICO products market makes itself felt.

Let's proceed to the answers:
1. Where is your company registered?
While we are in the developer mode, we have the right to work without registration. At the moment, several organizations are taking up our initial sponsorship.

2. Your official name is Neo Finance LTD, right?
NO! NOT PROPERLY! Why did not you wait for an answer to your question, you started the topic that we are copying the company from England?
We did not state in one source of Crypto-Media, in the documentation and descriptions that we are a registered company with the name "NEO FINANCE Ltd.", or did you make such a conclusion after seeing LTD in LinkedIn? This is a social network in which any person can specify even the potential name of their future company. Or you claim that we will not be able to register an organization called NEO Finance Ltd. it already exists and no one will allow us to do this? And the more so, we did not in any way indicate our attitude to the company NEO Finance, registered in England under number 07165501! Our road map shows the company's registration
Also, we have not used one text or one wording of anything from the site of this organization. We have different types of activities. That is why, the user of the Bitcointalk forum, with the nickname Hellmouth42, we ask you not to relate us to this organization any more and to agitate the other readers of this forum to an expression of negativity in this regard!

3. Where can we find your office?
Why do you need our exact location? Do you want to come to visit us for a meeting? Well, the headquarters of our project with developers is located in England, in London. If you have a great desire to meet with us personally, then we invite you to the seminar. We are pleased to announce the forthcoming first presentation of Neo MEETing in London on 01.09.2018. Theme of the meeting: product presentation and technical solutions. It was decided to meet in a cozy atmosphere of the restaurant "Dar Marrakesh" located at 422 Edgware Rd, Marylebone. For participation, please send an e-mail to [email protected], indicate "Warm welcome" in the subject line, and provide your contact details in the body of the letter.

4. Best marketing techniques? we are in 2018 not in 1990!
Ok, next time we will definitely turn to you for help, in case we need consultations on the topic of "Design". You have a wonderful taste.

5. So according to you, you are fine with stealing identity pictures just because you "do not consider it objectively and not applicable to your project" and you "analyzed" a photo…
As for the photographs allegedly taken from the runoff and their attitude to public coverage of personal life, we already answered earlier. Read the previous posts. Save both our and your time.

6. Their github account is new and empty (and they claim the project is in active development!)
At the moment we will post the work in github that we want, we have several accounts and enough material for further publication, everything has its time. You will no doubt be able to observe the course of action, do not worry.

7. I dare the ICO owner (scammer) to make live video AMA with all the team members to prove that their team and ICO is legit
 Since when did the video with the team become an indispensable condition for the crowdsfunding of the product through ICO?

8. Until then, this is a SCAM ICO for me
We respect the opinion of everyone, regardless of what it is: positive or negative. You are the only user who managed to correctly express their attitude to our project, and not the ratio for the rest.

9. ... about the Fajing Sun, your advisor.This guy looks damn good at investing ("One of the first to invest in Paypal") but also to delete all traces of himself on the web.
I quote the answer that we published earlier: "Take for example the fact: how do you think how many crypto-billionaires try to stay anonymous, because can fall under further pressure from the state authorities of the country of their stay or the country of their business.
No, we do not in any way claim that our team uses extraneous names, surnames, photographs and so on. We simply adhere to the rules of conducting a quality business that can lead our company to success and provide you with a developed product that can change the world and make it richer. "

10. How's the weather in Russia?
We think, judging by the weather forecast - the same as we have at the moment, a little cooler))) And since you can always drive "Find the weather in Russia" in the search bar of your browser and find many websites and online services on this topic. And still there is an opportunity to watch the weather for several days in a row.
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Your official name is Neo Finance LTD, right ?

Definitely, The decision for your brand name was not the idea of the year, (before in addition in UK...before their "mysterious disappearance" the team's linkedin profiles indicated that they were in Great Britain))





When you have 5 minutes, you will also give us additional information about Fajing Sun, your advisor.
This guy looks damn good at investing ("One of the first to invest in Paypal") but also  to delete all traces of himself on the web. Cheesy





Seriously guys, stop now...

Even if you are not another scammer (lol), with your 2-week old website and your ghost LinkedIn profiles, you really want to raise between....23 and 61 million USD?


How's the weather in Russia?



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The profile pics looks like stock images or random pics from internet
The domains registered last month,but the it claims that project is in development from many months
Their github account is new and empty (and they claim the project is in active development !)
The grammer ,writing style is same on all linked in profiles

I dare the ICO owner (scammer) to make  live video AMA with all the team members to prove that their team and ICO is legit

Until then, this is a SCAM ICO for me

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So according to you, you are fine with stealing identity pictures just because you "do not consider it objectively and not applicable to your project" and you "analyzed" a photo that you liked? Which expert would like to have his name tied with the photo of someone else? Using your logic it would be ok to create an ICO using Kardashian selfies.

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do you need to know each member of this team personally?
No, because nobody is interested to know someone using the photo of someone else

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The design for this site is made by the author's method with the use of author's illustrative techniques and the best marketing techniques.
Best marketing techniques? we are in 2018 not in 1990!
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Where is your company registered? Where can we find your office?
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we continue to fight for the right to sell our product, because we have the right to do so.
You have right to show potential investors real pictures of your CEO, COO, CTO with real resume. What happened to their linkeding profiles?

But our goal is clear, the position is clear, the product is in demand, the team is cohesive.
All I can see is this: fake team members, resume stolen from other people, no whitepaper, lending platform with exactly the same name and idea as another lending platform (neofinance.com)...
Btw, where is your company registered at?

1. Regarding the fake team, we wrote above our opinion.
2. Concerning the coincidence of the two lines of summary - similarly, everything is written above, let's save both your and our time and just read carefully.
3. How is it that we do not have WhitePaper? https://neofinance.io/documents/White_Paper.pdf, is located on the site in the Problem / Solution section, there is also OnePager https://neofinance.io/documents/One_pager.pdf and Token sale https://neofinance.io/documents/Token_sale.pdf
4. Coincidence of the company name and activity? NO! The concept of NEO and FINANCE in terms of its semantic load entails innovative activity in the financial sector. The company you are talking about working with traditional currencies, our ideas with them are not similar and do not coincide, the same applies to the financial model.
5. We want to note a little about the phrase above "Children's Design". The design for this site is made by the author's method with the use of author's illustrative techniques and the best marketing techniques. Do not so defiantly react, keep the intelligentsia in communication and ethics.
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we continue to fight for the right to sell our product, because we have the right to do so.
You have right to show to potential investors real pictures of your CEO, COO, CTO with real resume. What happened to their linkeding profiles?

But our goal is clear, the position is clear, the product is in demand, the team is cohesive.
All I can see is this: fake team members, resume stolen from other people, no whitepaper, lending platform with exactly the same name and idea as another lending platform (neofinance.com)...
Btw, where is your company registered at?
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Why do you write all this, what are you trying to achieve? Your excuses are so naive that no investors will be interested in your questionable "project". Once again: the photos are not yours, the site is made by the child, the brand is clearly stolen.

Based on what do you have this question? Based on our foregoing opinion that the quality of the product for us is more important than showing a personal life?

These words are meaningless!
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We are glad to welcome you! Thank you for being with us. Despite numerous attempts to doubt our project, we continue to fight for the right to sell our product, because we have the right to do so.
Everyone who spends time trying to find reasons to push investors away from our project, we express our enormous gratitude. we know that all this implies a waste of time and attention to our project, and this is still work. Thanks you! But our goal is clear, the position is clear, the product is in demand, the team is cohesive.
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11. Regarding your opinion that you should not trust a company that used someone's photo: we do not consider it objectively and not applicable to our project. First: we analyze one photo. The answer was previously stated. Read above.
Secondly: we did not call a special photographer to photograph the team on the same background and so on. We are all people and this is our desire, choose the photo on which we look best. Or are there any mandatory requirements for placing photos in the project?

identity theft ?
How would you feel if someone is using your personal picture and using it for whatever? What about if I edit a porn zoophile video and use your face then show the video to your friends, neighbors, etc, and to the whole www. and it will be in forever. Why do you think some people are working hard to manage their e-reputation and sometimes lawyers are used

Did you ask the permission to someone to use the photos of other people
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Identity theft is the deliberate use of someone else's identity, usually as a method to gain a financial advantage or obtain credit and other benefits in the other person's name,[1][2] and perhaps to the other person's disadvantage or loss. The person whose identity has been assumed may suffer adverse consequences,[3] especially if they are held responsible for the perpetrator's actions
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https://like.doctor/chelyabinsk/vrachi/hakimov-andrey-enesovich

http://vkontakte.info/id4739738

Interesting part is both Aндpeй and Дapья are from Chelyabinsk  Roll Eyes what are the odds... I'd say both pictures are taken from the same photographer/studio.
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Tldr;

So, you don't want to show your team members to investors?


Based on what do you have this question?

Based on you trying to collect 60 million dollars from naive people.

How many people - so many opinions. But getting a negative evaluation from you to the status of trust was superfluous. We also know how to listen to criticism, tomorrow we will raise the question about the developer's video diary, in order to once and for all end up doubting. Thank you for your opinion, we appreciate it and are ready to listen to everyone.
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Tldr;

So, you don't want to show your team members to investors?


Based on what do you have this question?

Based on you trying to collect 60 million dollars from naive people.
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Tldr;

So, you don't want to show your team members to investors?


Based on what do you have this question? Based on our foregoing opinion that the quality of the product for us is more important than showing a personal life? We tried to show our position on this score as clearly as possible. We are perfectly aware that the market for implementing projects through ICO is now full of fraudulent teams, but nevertheless we have posted enough information about the team using material from our personal lives. Criticizing photos is one thing, but to argue that the project deserves the status of SCAM is another. Want to see a detailed report of the team on the work done - you will see, we have prepared a very convenient model for tracking the status of product manufacturing and budget allocation. Right now we are preparing its implementation and will soon produce a technical announcement with demo access.
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Tldr;

So, you don't want to show your team members to investors?
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FOREWORD.
Dear users, critics, current investors, potential investors.
We are glad that you criticize and discuss our project, up to nuances and minor flaws. It is wonderful. You help us to improve and develop.
And now our personal opinion: before launching the development of ICO and our project, we analyzed the market, from the current projects released to the stock exchange, to projects that decided to deceive investors by issuing a fraudulent fund-raising.
At the end of the analysis - we made a decision and declare:
"We are not going to adapt to the system, we are not going to produce a project on a template, the same goes for the compensation program, stories about the personal life of our team and their achievements in society." We gathered a circle of experts and experts capable of producing a really high-quality product and we will show Do you need this to show the quality of the team - do you need to know each member of this team personally? Or do we still look at the product itself? We are not going to involve most of the crypto-general in its implementation We believe that it is not advisable to declare publicly and demonstrate to the state authorities and the ordinary society their financial achievements and estates at the disposal of millions of dollars for the sale of the product, because in the first place - we must provide the product itself, our creation, our achievement. "

1. Another random platform with crypto-fiat.
We are well aware that to date there are several companies that have announced the creation of their own plastic card. This is explained by the desire to optimize and simplify the possibility of urgent transfer of funds without the participation of online exchange offices, which currently regulate the rates and interest for withdrawal, as well as exclude the possibility of fraud from the exchange office. Sometimes it is worth paying a fixed interest rate for the urgency of withdrawal in an ATM, rather than saving on nerves and emotions.

2. The short period of existence of pages of social networks, media sources and journalistic accounts is explained by the fact that we are of the opinion that there is no need in some cases for a public statement on the implementation of collection of such a scale of investment funds. To date, there are many precedents associated with public statements of the estate at the disposal of working capital (it does not matter whether it is a crypto currency or another kind of bank notes).
Take as an example the fact: how do you think how many crypto-billionaires try to keep anonymous, because? can fall under further pressure from the state authorities of the country of their stay or the country of their business.
No, we do not in any way claim that our team uses extraneous names, surnames, photographs and so on. We simply adhere to the rules of conducting a quality business that can lead our company to success and provide you with a developed product that can change the world and make it richer.

3. GITHUB. A linguistic error in the name of the company.
This fact was checked and the relevant persons responsible for content and content were brought to disciplinary punishment! Thank you to our critics, for helping us improve! We appreciate it and perceive it as support!

4. As for our PR-manager, Jessica Anderson. To date, at its disposal more than 3 projects for implementation. Some of them require no time spent on participating in outside projects.

5. The name JOSEF is correct. The general manager of the company comes from the Czech Republic, the name is written without the use of the "PH" signs at the end.

6. NEF TOKEN: We are aware that earlier some companies announced the release of a similar (by name) token. Relations with him we do not have. Our goal: the early release of the token on the exchange, analogues at the moment for linguistics and the origin of the crypto currency in the market - no. We act like an "Arms Race", and we will take pride of place in the top 10 crypto currency. We are sure.

7. We have no relations with organizations with similar names dealing with a similar type of activity. all of them are on the territory of the traditional market, which has nothing to do with the market of crypto-currencies.

8. The early term of creating a website and registering a domain, we consider not an objective reason for identifying doubts. Initially, the project strategy and its further implementation plan are developed. Everyone has their own business model of development.

9. Andy Curtman is our freelance designer, with whom we have been working for more than six months. We published it in the section of our team, not so that you would check how competent it is in this matter, and first of all to show you our performers. This photo was published by him personally, and even if he has to do with the account in the instagram - for us it does not matter its origin, t. first of all we look at the quality of the product, which every member of our team controls.

10. Similarity of descriptions (2-3 sentences) with some sources on the Internet.
Note that the wordings coincide in the description of the position of a specialist. Is it that the copywriter who prepared the text used a template, a ready source and did not pay 2 minutes for rewriting - is there something bad?

11. Regarding your opinion that you should not trust a company that used someone's photo: we do not consider it objectively and not applicable to our project. First: we analyze one photo. The answer was previously stated. Read above.
Secondly: we did not call a special photographer to photograph the team on the same background and so on. We are all people and this is our desire, choose the photo on which we look best. Or are there any mandatory requirements for placing photos in the project?

12. Regarding the presence in the team of investors of early periods: how did the company take it that all investors publicly advertised sources of their investments and relations with the projects? Why should this be published somewhere?
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Looks really like a scam, but no strong proofs, yet.

Just clarify an important moment, please: have they already started an ICO and gathered money?



Really? "not strong proofs" what else do you want? Any HONEST ICO or business should never use a FAKE image of their team.
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Looks really like a scam, but no strong proofs, yet.

Just clarify an important moment, please: have they already started an ICO and gathered money?



A business using the image of someone is a crook and enough to not believe in their project. At least if it was me, I wouldn't look further.
Also, I know it isn't an indicator but WTF their website! It's very ugly, it makes me think about a website design in the 90's, I can do better with Paint.
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To add to your investigation:

I think Andy Curtman is Idris Gitinaev - https://www.instagram.com/idris_iris/ . Amazon Rekognition agrees with me :









https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenserdons/







https://www.scribd.com/document/250391882/Daniel-Nemerciuc-CV




I'm pretty confident 90% of team has stolen photos from Russian photo-sharing websites. Will check later today, but this is without a doubt - scam.
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Their site is ugly and created more recently



Fake Profile Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/NEOFinance/ — original
https://www.facebook.com/neo.fin.963 — counterfeit

Twitter and Reddit are empty...
These guys are the dumbest of all scammers  Grin
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Ann thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4830762.new#new
Bounty Thread : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-airdrop-neo-finance-p2p-decentralized-financial-system-4830773

Website : https://neofinance.io/
WP : https://neofinance.io/documents/White_Paper.pdf

Archives:
http://archive.is/esYWy
http://archive.is/eUbOx

The concept : "Given the rapid growth of the cryptocurrency market, the best way to preserve and increase profits, with the growth of cryptocurrency assets, is to store cryptocurrencies in the long term. In other words, stick to the HOLD strategy."

Another random platform with crypto-fiat card.

All social media pages are a few days old or empty

THE GITHUB


Not really reassuring (and the editor made a spelling mistake on the name of his own company...)



THE TEAM:

All profiles have a few days and between 1 and 13 connections (actually). Even the "PR manager" and the "community manager" worrying for people who must have good networks (not to mention the CEO and the legal advisor, also unknown and untraceable on Google...)

NEO FINANCE Linkedin page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/neo-finance-ltd/





So the profile photos also seem very suspicious to me... but I let professional of the photo theft detection give me their opinion!




I like the CEO profile ! [/b] Grin




THE TOKEN




The NEF token... already exists





And btw, the brand NEO FINANCE too...











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