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Topic: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested (Read 5165 times)

sr. member
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Co-Owner Of DCMCo-Op Mining Farm at 3.5 th/s
I live in the Tampa, FL area which is not Far from NPR area maybe an Hour, If people would like I would be Willing to Go to the address listed and Try and make personal Contact with this person, and even Video record the WHOLE event so that he cant say that i threatened him or anything i would just tell him that the site was his and that since the site was his property reguardless if the servers were mikes that because the site was his that it makes him responsible for ALL LOSSES on the site, and that by Hiring Mike's servers that mike is now in his employ and also makes him responsible for anything that mike does, and that unless he takes the steps to take legal action against mike then he is SOLELY responsible for ALL LOSSES



But I will not do this for FREE as gas and my time do Cost
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
Gresham's Lawyer

Also, someone (or someones) ought to take the task of writing up a clear, concise and supported "timeline and fact summary" to brief these folks and speed the process.
Preponderance of evidence in civil matters is important.

Both sides are going to need to do this.  Without it getting legal assistance is going to cost you a lot more as you pay for the time, including the time it takes to explain it all.
sr. member
Activity: 465
Merit: 254
legendary
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Merit: 1002
Waves | 3PHMaGNeTJfqFfD4xuctgKdoxLX188QM8na
waste of time Sad
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1050
Mike (Micheal?) Burns
9600 Spanish Steps Lane
Las Vegas

Could be an old adres though. Mike is proving harder to track down due to his common name.
sr. member
Activity: 465
Merit: 254
Also, someone (or someones) ought to take the task of writing up a clear, concise and supported "timeline and fact summary" to brief these folks and speed the process.
Preponderance of evidence in civil matters is important.

Feel free to use whatever you want from my original Phenix scam thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/exposing-phenixcoin-the-hype-and-possible-scam-267301

Even though we had some arguments I am truly sorry for all of you who ended up in this mess and I hope you catch these momos.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1050
The status of the tracking now says " NOTICE LEFT "

Im guessing he wasnt home and USPS left a notice saying he can pick it up at the post office.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
He is probably enjoying the stolen BTCs + the BTCs from premine dump and enjoying the BTC boom.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Whoa, there are a lot of cats in this wall.
Turns out I grossly over-estimated the US Postal Service. It takes them a FULL WEEK to deliver a first class, certified letter.
According to the tracking info, it's still in the sorting station.

My plan was to allow John a week to get the funds together to pay us back, starting from the moment he got the letter. So I;m thinking about giving him a week from today. What do you guys think ?

I recommend doing that.  That's the correct thing to do. 
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1050
Turns out I grossly over-estimated the US Postal Service. It takes them a FULL WEEK to deliver a first class, certified letter.
According to the tracking info, it's still in the sorting station.

My plan was to allow John a week to get the funds together to pay us back, starting from the moment he got the letter. So I;m thinking about giving him a week from today. What do you guys think ?
sr. member
Activity: 938
Merit: 255
SmartFi - EARN, LEND & TRADE
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.

How can we help?

I imagine that John will come to this thread after he reads the leter that I've sent him. Showing willingness to go after him should help. I want him to see that we're not going to let them keep our money. Willingness to sue and willingness to spread the word that he can't be trusted ( and preventing him from scamming others that way ! ) should be a strong insensitive to pay us back, if keeping a clear conscience is not enough reason.

So post about what you are willing to do if we get nothing from him after the deadline runs out.
Should be interesting to see what comes of this.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
0.0018733 BTC
8000 SXC

BTC: 1NmWTFjFgxd9jPu7fVcZ6YoZ53BHSXL2hr
SXC: SLDMAZRJy4QU2EmWfw8Rdcnu46pqL4g29c
Cryptsy tradekey: 285891dce6538716b917c7d42c1fe7c00d4fb1c

After losing almost 0.25 BTC worth of PXCs at coins-e I had decided not to use any more dodgy exchanges. But PhenixEx was the only one trading SXC at that time  Sad

I have refunded your 8000 SXC, because I think sex should never be a bad experience. If any of the devs want to donate a refund:S16zpr18SugJcemZQTgzWbMhwpzddnt8ic

Thanks for that Smiley

I saw it come in and thought these guys are now refunding. Now I see the scammers are still at large.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
Gresham's Lawyer
I've a very good law firm in FL.
PM me if you want contact info.

Also, someone (or someones) ought to take the task of writing up a clear, concise and supported "timeline and fact summary" to brief these folks and speed the process.
Preponderance of evidence in civil matters is important.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1050
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.

How can we help?

I imagine that John will come to this thread after he reads the leter that I've sent him. Showing willingness to go after him should help. I want him to see that we're not going to let them keep our money. Willingness to sue and willingness to spread the word that he can't be trusted ( and preventing him from scamming others that way ! ) should be a strong insensitive to pay us back, if keeping a clear conscience is not enough reason.

So post about what you are willing to do if we get nothing from him after the deadline runs out.
hero member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 577
0.0018733 BTC
8000 SXC

BTC: 1NmWTFjFgxd9jPu7fVcZ6YoZ53BHSXL2hr
SXC: SLDMAZRJy4QU2EmWfw8Rdcnu46pqL4g29c
Cryptsy tradekey: 285891dce6538716b917c7d42c1fe7c00d4fb1c

After losing almost 0.25 BTC worth of PXCs at coins-e I had decided not to use any more dodgy exchanges. But PhenixEx was the only one trading SXC at that time  Sad

I have refunded your 8000 SXC, because I think sex should never be a bad experience. If any of the devs want to donate a refund:S16zpr18SugJcemZQTgzWbMhwpzddnt8ic
full member
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Merit: 100
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.

How can we help?
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1050

Taking that first step may also be an innocent way to show your seriousness of intent.

Good idea.

John lives in New Port Richy, FL.
Mike's in Las Vegas, NV


The letter should be in John's mailbox any time now, by the way.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
Gresham's Lawyer
The last time I had contact with John was more then a week ago. I have his personal phone number. Last time we spoke he promised he would check up on Mike again. I then had a short conversation with Mike on Skype in which he only kept repeating he's working as fast as he can and that I can ask questions via email, using [email protected].

He has, however, not responded to my emails since. Also, John has changed his phone number, and the email adres he gave me ( [email protected] ) is not accepting incoming mail at all.

Both John and Mike are now completely ignoring or actively blocking any attempt for anyone in the crypto world to contact them.

They are trying to hide behind a veil of anonymity. Cowards.

I'm not going to allow them to run away from their responsibilities. Mike messed up in a big way, but the exchange, and all assets concerning it belong to John. So he can't simply blame Mike and get on with his life. Ignoring us does not make the problem go away.

The thing is : I know exactly who they are. Their real names, adresses, everything. So here's my plan :

I'm going to send them a letter by old fashioned airmail, in which I demand the coins to be refunded to their respective owners. I will give them a ten day period in which they get the chance to put the money together, in case Mike ran off with it. If they fail to comply I will then post their full identities here and assist everyone to report them to the authorities.  

To be absolutely clear ; I DO NOT want anyone to threaten them with violence, or have anyone bother their families. Lets keep this civil, but let's get what we deserve.

I'll post the letters tomorrow.

If this is your proposed course of action... You can start by simply posting the relevant jurisdiction so that remote folks can start spinning up their "Small Claims" documents or contacting the local solicitor to them, and then just fill in the details when the rest of the information is made available.

One of the sometimes unfortunate benefits of crypto is that when folks run off, they can move quickly, so attaching illiquid assets with liens and such has to be done with some alacrity and justice tends to be slow at times.

Taking that first step may also be an innocent way to show your seriousness of intent.
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
www.multipool.us
I don't think they are gonna care at all if they get a scammer tag. They haven't logged in in almost two weeks. After the 22nd I'm going to post their real names and addresses though, so we can name and shame them as well as sue them.
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.

They'll eventually come back.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1050
I don't think they are gonna care at all if they get a scammer tag. They haven't logged in in almost two weeks. After the 22nd I'm going to post their real names and addresses though, so we can name and shame them as well as sue them.
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
www.multipool.us
I withdrawd most of my coins a week before after my CAPs deposit never showed but this is still what is owed so glad i removed the bulk of my btc/ltc,
what left is not much but thats really beside the point.  after site announce closure, withdrawls not longer work there and stay in pending state :\

BTC 0.00549919   
CAP 14.73801400   + 100 CAP sent to my deposit address but never credited EmrpBBmbZKTdPFihP3QJhpdTa7Gs8DR9Va
FRK 0.1
WDC 99.0
CDC 34.925
LTC 0.0190000

Can we get a scammer tag for the involved parties please?  I believe we've given them plenty of time to refund users.
legendary
Activity: 1672
Merit: 1010
I withdrawd most of my coins a week before after my CAPs deposit never showed but this is still what is owed so glad i removed the bulk of my btc/ltc,
what left is not much but thats really beside the point.  after site announce closure, withdrawls not longer work there and stay in pending state :\

BTC 0.00549919   
CAP 14.73801400   + 100 CAP sent to my deposit address but never credited
FRK 0.1
WDC 99.0
CDC 34.925
LTC 0.0190000

edit: Addresses for refund if it ever happens
BTC: 18hMe9SugXD4rVPk8fn6WzVQ5QRu6sEooE
LTC: LRbe5c7mXnoKHLoPefVDN4TmybhMb6vBME
CAP: F4M6W6VoB4gasf4HGKUrAYYw4EGFGZPARh
FRK: FN8yCzastyGhCgPJc3L1yresG9Gu8uSPDk
WDC: WUGisyTreyQYHiGnLyufGixrtMA21vA9EX
CDC: BxEjiovT66AzvYJoQQaY2CLW5quH3K9koe


legendary
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Merit: 1000
ADT developer
bumping
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
0.34724388 BTC

Address 1K3upBWPsEXgAJismuB9QTkaEqtka5yY3B
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
0.0018733 BTC
8000 SXC

BTC: 1NmWTFjFgxd9jPu7fVcZ6YoZ53BHSXL2hr
SXC: SLDMAZRJy4QU2EmWfw8Rdcnu46pqL4g29c
Cryptsy tradekey: 285891dce6538716b917c7d42c1fe7c00d4fb1c

After losing almost 0.25 BTC worth of PXCs at coins-e I had decided not to use any more dodgy exchanges. But PhenixEx was the only one trading SXC at that time  Sad
legendary
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Merit: 1000
ADT developer
just over 500,000,000 ADT and a small amount of other coins will update asap
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 251
1 BTC...
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1060
May the force bit with you.
~.27btc
full member
Activity: 187
Merit: 100
They owe me 103,779.14064843 SXC

They did return my BTC, although it was a very trivial amount.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1050
We found proof that Mike saw the premine as his personal property, eventhough he always said it was for promotional purposes only.

http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2013/07/17#l1374048699 scroll down to 08.13 or do a search for iamatrix.

Quote
08:09   iamatrix   I play in Alt coins.. then convert to BTC
08:10   allban   yeah did like 60% profit on some dgc couple of days ago, would have been more if i didnt get scammed at the time to load up some coin hehe
08:10   iamatrix   lol.. have you played with PXC?
08:11   allban   i put the btc back in btc-e when the rally began on pxc/xmp :/
08:11   allban   and now 100% fiat on btc-e
08:11   iamatrix   its gonna happen again monday/tuesday
08:11   iamatrix   PXC is mine
08:11   allban   thinking of re-buying some 50k+ alphacoin also, should not be much lower, so only upside
08:12   iamatrix   seen this? http://www.coindesk.com/feathercoin-phenixcoin-and-worldcoin-partner-to-form-unocs-the-united-ope...
08:12   allban   hehe have 27.8 pxc from multipool i see now
08:12   iamatrix   I have 800K Wink

This was recorded 7/17. He felt entitled to profit. This is probably why he has no problems at all with taking our money, he feels like he deserves it. This is how people  anti-social personality disorders think.

I very much regret not digging into his background  a little bit more before trusting him and John with so much of my money, time and  energy. 6 months and 5k euro down the drain.

But I learned a lot from it Wink
hero member
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Whoa, there are a lot of cats in this wall.
I am owed just under 100LTC.  Actual amount is 99.75 LTC that I am owed from this exchange. 
sr. member
Activity: 459
Merit: 250
BTC address   1B9nT6Y65U4q15QzuhwWCkRYjU7YW8ApSj
0.32480000    BTC
+ ~0.12 BTC from canceled orders (i can't see exact amount)


LTC address   LeDuZK74FJC4sMxhUVLT1jWwkzs261A8ov
82.84000000 LTC
legendary
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Merit: 1050
Everybody, please post the ammount of your  coins that are still on PhenixEx in this thread, so we have it all in one place.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
I know its not much, but its not the amount that troubles me.

PhenixEx.com owes me
0.22176913BTC

bitcoin address
156HoZbqmDsAqTcESuSQAMWz9feJh1xmtc
full member
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Do as I say to do--But don't. (Mind Blown)
Bravo!!!! Bout time we see someone with some balls stick up to these scamming f$%ks. Hopefully they read this and shit their pants and return the money to those of us who got gypped. If not, well, sucks to be them...
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1050
I'm still waiting for 9.9 BTC and 16k WDC. That's  12.28 BTC, worth 1243.13 euro.

My BTC can be send to the following adres : 15bRKXbZbQQJKRa7mR5XJ131WrfxxcxxFT
WDC :                                                    WbtPFEidRYGCX7vH7DkhazGcDAJmHftEit

Payment in Euro's to my paypal account is also acceptable. My paypal account is known by John.
member
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Site now says "PhenixEx is now closed. Please send all refund requests to phenixexrefunds at gmail.com, please include your username and refund requested."

Anyone requested or received any refunds yet?

I didnot receive anything yet.
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
www.multipool.us
Site now says "PhenixEx is now closed. Please send all refund requests to phenixexrefunds at gmail.com, please include your username and refund requested."

Anyone requested or received any refunds yet?
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
www.multipool.us
Waiting 2 days for BTC withdrawal. Scam for sure it seems. Please tag so others do not fall victim.
I removed coins today. Admittedly a tiny amount, with no problem.
Correction, none received "transaction processing" after 24 hours

It's been almost a week for me.
sr. member
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Trident Protocol | Simple «buy-hold-earn» system!
Waiting 2 days for BTC withdrawal. Scam for sure it seems. Please tag so others do not fall victim.
I removed coins today. Admittedly a tiny amount, with no problem.
Correction, none received "transaction processing" after 24 hours
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
I added these guys to bitcoinscammers.com and relayed your msg.
legendary
Activity: 999
Merit: 1000
Few coins on their poker site which closed down with no warning as well on my end
sr. member
Activity: 771
Merit: 258
Trident Protocol | Simple «buy-hold-earn» system!
Waiting 2 days for BTC withdrawal. Scam for sure it seems. Please tag so others do not fall victim.
I removed coins today. Admittedly a tiny amount, with no problem.
sr. member
Activity: 782
Merit: 258
Betking.io - Best Bitcoin Casino
Waiting 2 days for BTC withdrawal. Scam for sure it seems. Please tag so others do not fall victim.
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1118
* DiamondCardz sighs

I saw this coming from a mile away.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
Can anybody provide the user profile links of the devs who have bailed?
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
I also did some PR for PXC, operated a pool for the coin. I could withdraw my coins, however it was below 1 BTC and 10 LTC. Only small amount left in balance there.

legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
User profile links?
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1002
Waves | 3PHMaGNeTJfqFfD4xuctgKdoxLX188QM8na
Link to the user profiles of those involved with PhenixEx?

I did PR and support for PhenixCoin / PhenixEx.

Not sure what the status for PhenixEx is right now, can't contact the devs atm.

I have 1.288 BTC stuck in a withdrawal for over a week.

Hope it gets sorted.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
Link to the user profiles of those involved with PhenixEx?
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
www.multipool.us
I think at least a scam warning is warranted on their posts at the moment so new people don't see it and deposit funds thinking that everything is OK.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
Such crap, if there is not a huge objection I think these folks should be investigated.
NWO
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
It looks like the devs have gone running, nothing is working out for them with the PXC price crashing, UNOCS and the shady exchange.

If you still have PXC or coins on phenixex I suggest you get out now before the storm arrives!
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1060
May the force bit with you.
True I am out .28 BTC
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
www.multipool.us
Do not deposit any digital currencies into PhenixEx.com.  They are currently not servicing BTC withdrawals and some deposits are not showing up either.  I myself have been waiting over 5 days for a BTC withdrawal and many others are in the same boat.

UPDATE: At this point I believe a scammer tag is warranted for the involved parties.  How do we go about requesting this?
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