*SCAMMED* $100 by GREEN TRUST Member! User = kirch || UID = 92027

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Quote from: Leave on January 18, 2017, 01:20:23 PM

Quote from: 0x0010 on January 18, 2017, 12:57:42 PM

In this case I'm going to side with Kirch.

Gift rockets will be reverse 98% of the fucking time.

Good luck kirch.

It wasn't reversed.

can you let the support of gift rockets confirm that? since the proof kirch published says it was.. how was it obtained anyway?

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Quote from: 0x0010 on January 18, 2017, 12:57:42 PM

In this case I'm going to side with Kirch.

Gift rockets will be reverse 98% of the fucking time.

Good luck kirch.

It wasn't reversed.

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In this case I'm going to side with Kirch.

Gift rockets will be reverse 98% of the fucking time.

Good luck kirch.

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Quote from: flooren on October 30, 2016, 05:59:54 AM

I confirmed kirch big scammer.
He scam guys for 8k

his scam method:

He will withdraw money to bank, after he will say his bank blocked money because is money is dirty.
for many people he doing this scam method

here also scam report: https://exchangecurrencyzone.com/showthread.php/234556-kirch123-scammer

You never posted proof here in the scam accusation section.

Quote from: Leave on January 18, 2017, 12:39:55 PM

Bump, why the hell is his trust green again?

Eh, probably was given the benefit of the doubt though it's hard to tell who's the guilty party here. I would like to see proof of the above accusation.

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Bump, why the hell is his trust green again?

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I confirmed kirch big scammer.
He scam guys for 8k

his scam method:

He will withdraw money to bank, after he will say his bank blocked money because is money is dirty.
for many people he doing this scam method

here also scam report: https://exchangecurrencyzone.com/showthread.php/234556-kirch123-scammer

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Quote from: KWH on July 10, 2016, 10:42:34 AM

Kirch is ready to or has deposited funds to cover this accusation into escrow. Solid proof needs to be presented one way or the other as this needs to be resolved. If there is no other proof within a few days, I will remove my Negative.

Is there any update to this?

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In Collateral I Trust.

Kirch is ready to or has deposited funds to cover this accusation into escrow. Solid proof needs to be presented one way or the other as this needs to be resolved. If there is no other proof within a few days, I will remove my Negative.

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Quote from: cryptohustla on July 04, 2016, 08:17:35 AM

so did you guys settled? i mean has this issue been resolved or what?

Doubt it. Kirch still has his negative trust and there is no further updates for now.

Hopefully a conclusion can be made soon.

It's hard for us to conclude which is a scammer.
Kirch also seems to have placed his evidence in an previously created message which they have edited so it is unnoticable if you just skip past it like I did and proably many others!

Here's the evidence Kirch posted though:

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Quote from: cryptohustla on July 04, 2016, 08:17:35 AM

so did you guys settled? i mean has this issue been resolved or what?

Doubt it. Kirch still has his negative trust and there is no further updates for now.

Hopefully a conclusion can be made soon.

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Look at the brighter Side

so did you guys settled? i mean has this issue been resolved or what?

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Quote from: kirch on June 30, 2016, 04:32:18 PM

Quote from: Xenophoto on June 30, 2016, 07:05:36 AM

Just because the account had a green trust on doesn't mean you should trust him. Anyone can scam you any time. The only reason he had a green trust was because of favdesu's rating and it was just a simple deal a year ago. But anyway, him being a green trust member shouldn't be a big deal in this conversation. It just seems to me that OP trusted him because of his trust rating.

Pls check my updated post here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15406931
I have NOT scammed any one..but infact the OP sold me carded gift card which eventually cancelled by the issuer
See the screenshot of the email sent from the card issuer

Aha well that makes a lot more sense! What the hell is going on here?! Everybody just give everyone else their money back.

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Quote from: Xenophoto on June 30, 2016, 07:05:36 AM

Just because the account had a green trust on doesn't mean you should trust him. Anyone can scam you any time. The only reason he had a green trust was because of favdesu's rating and it was just a simple deal a year ago. But anyway, him being a green trust member shouldn't be a big deal in this conversation. It just seems to me that OP trusted him because of his trust rating.

Pls check my updated post here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15406931
I have NOT scammed any one..but infact the OP sold me carded gift card which eventually cancelled by the issuer
See the screenshot of the email sent from the card issuer

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Quote from: Xenophoto on June 30, 2016, 07:05:36 AM

Just because the account had a green trust on doesn't mean you should trust him. Anyone can scam you any time. The only reason he had a green trust was because of favdesu's rating and it was just a simple deal a year ago. But anyway, him being a green trust member shouldn't be a big deal in this conversation. It just seems to me that OP trusted him because of his trust rating.

Light green trust accounts are being sold for affordable prices on the forum so they should never be used as an indicator of trust.

Even Dark green trust accounts are being sold too. (Not for an affordable price)

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Just because the account had a green trust on doesn't mean you should trust him. Anyone can scam you any time. The only reason he had a green trust was because of favdesu's rating and it was just a simple deal a year ago. But anyway, him being a green trust member shouldn't be a big deal in this conversation. It just seems to me that OP trusted him because of his trust rating.

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Quote from: kirch on June 29, 2016, 05:52:22 PM

Quote from: erpbridge on June 29, 2016, 05:05:10 PM

Just saw this thread and remembered the guy. 2 months back I bought a starbucks card from him. It was already claimed. It actually happened twice, but since Starbucks can block cards , he wouldn't have got anything by scamming me.

here is the thread; https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14655290
While my matter was resolved, this thread seems to be a similar case.

LOL..You know that you used the cards and wanted to get free cards..I know it but still refunded you !
I have sold over 100 x$10 SB cards that I got from a promotion and NOT carded or cracked cards..I still have the cards with proofs.I not even know who has really bought them cos I sold them on slut.io.But as CLAIMED that you bought card..i replaced first time as good will..I checked the card before sending ..but still again you came back saying that it has not worked..I refused to replace..and you were threatening me that you will open scam thread (and opened too)..I then refunded you again (eve though you asked for a replacement)

NOW go and shit some where !

I will .. on your face. I can't help it if your site where you hosted your cards scammed you. But seeing this thread and almost a similar trend, I am now more sure it was you who was trying to do a quick scam then and refunded because you didn't want to see that green trust turn red. I am not even going to reply to your immature rant here, so go cry somewhere else. I am obviously ignoring you from now on.

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Quote from: erpbridge on June 29, 2016, 05:05:10 PM

Just saw this thread and remembered the guy. 2 months back I bought a starbucks card from him. It was already claimed. It actually happened twice, but since Starbucks can block cards , he wouldn't have got anything by scamming me.

here is the thread; https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14655290
While my matter was resolved, this thread seems to be a similar case.

LOL..You know that you used the cards and wanted to get free cards..I know it but still refunded you !
I have sold over 100 x$10 SB cards that I got from a promotion and NOT carded or cracked cards..I still have the cards with proofs.I not even know who has really bought them cos I sold them on slut.io.But as CLAIMED that you bought card..i replaced first time as good will..I checked the card before sending ..but still again you came back saying that it has not worked..I refused to replace..and you were threatening me that you will open scam thread (and opened too)..I then refunded you again (eve though you asked for a replacement)

NOW go and shit some where !

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Just saw this thread and remembered the guy. 2 months back I bought a starbucks card from him. It was already claimed. It actually happened twice, but since Starbucks can block cards , he wouldn't have got anything by scamming me.

here is the thread; https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14655290
While my matter was resolved, this thread seems to be a similar case.

kirch

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Quote from: celot on June 29, 2016, 03:31:04 PM

@leave and @kirch The problem you both , resolve your problem on the PM , can not hear the word dirty word here Wink

"hear" LOL..close your ears !
There is nothing else to be resolved .I have already made my point and proved ..Scammer scammed me opened a scam accusation thread and calling me Scammer .
Even after showing all official proofs ,the OP is not shutting up and accepting the truth !

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@leave and @kirch The problem you both , resolve your problem on the PM , can not hear the word dirty word here Wink

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Quote from: Leave on June 29, 2016, 02:33:01 PM

Quote from: fiscorcle on June 29, 2016, 09:56:27 AM

carded giftcard, this explains why the OP was so i hurry to get the BTC. OP is a newbie account selling carded giftcards which are 100% not going to be cashed out. OP is scamming people with this method and even he is opening scam reports against his victims Shocked

Not carded at all! kirch is still a scammer

LOL..WTF !
Are you out of your mind Huh

You or any mod can teamview my email account

PROVE ME THAT YOU HAVE NOT SCAMMED ME..
You are really shameless fucking scammer..I showed you all proofs and I am even ready to l deposit 200% in escrow ..but you have backed out

Have life ..go beg..don't steal !

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Quote from: fiscorcle on June 29, 2016, 09:56:27 AM

carded giftcard, this explains why the OP was so i hurry to get the BTC. OP is a newbie account selling carded giftcards which are 100% not going to be cashed out. OP is scamming people with this method and even he is opening scam reports against his victims Shocked

Not carded at all! kirch is still a scammer

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carded giftcard, this explains why the OP was so i hurry to get the BTC. OP is a newbie account selling carded giftcards which are 100% not going to be cashed out. OP is scamming people with this method and even he is opening scam reports against his victims Shocked

kirch

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This is the official email I have received from gift rocket after intense follow up.

It says that they have cancelled the card (for obvious reasons ) and informed the sender,the day I contacted gift rocket (June 18th)

IF OP WAS THE GENUINE RECIPIENT,HE WOULD HAVE GOT THE EMAIL FROM GIFT ROCKET ON 18TH JUNE

Now ,everyone know who's the scammer !

BTW,I am open to show the email on teamviewer to any mod or OP

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Quote from: kirch on June 17, 2016, 01:24:26 PM

Quote from: Leave on June 17, 2016, 01:12:35 PM

Just about 4 full days and no payment!

I am not going anywhere..the funds are not in my bank account yet
I will wait for end of the day .I would appreciate if you can call giftrocket and find out the status

Yea.. no. It's cool, this scam report is staying up. It's clear that you'll just ditch the account if the trust stays, which shows untrustworthy behaviour in and of itself. You would not payback unless trust gets removed? That's a joke.

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Quote from: Leave on June 17, 2016, 01:12:35 PM

Just about 4 full days and no payment!

I am not going anywhere..the funds are not in my bank account yet
I will wait for end of the day .I would appreciate if you can call giftrocket and find out the status

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Just about 4 full days and no payment!

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Quote from: kirch on June 16, 2016, 05:07:36 PM

Quote from: Leave on June 16, 2016, 04:35:14 PM

Quote from: kirch on June 16, 2016, 03:22:02 PM

Quote from: Benoit2 on June 16, 2016, 01:11:42 PM

hey kirch why you can response here and not my PMs?
This guy is ignoring me since 2 days i sended him alot of PMs waiting for a response dont know what i did wrong.
i guess this user is a Big BIG Timewaster and apparently a scammer.

Shut the fuck up..have I bought anything from you ??
you offered me to sell chaturbate account with 4000 tokens and told me that it was your own account and want to sell as you need urgent cash..but when I asked you to send me order proofs,you bought tokens and send me the screenshot..and you have admitted that you have bought with a stolen credit cand assured that they will not be reversed..I said I I am not interested in carded stuff..still you were begging to buy it..I told you to contact me later as I was not interested..you have PMed me begging to buy..I chose to IGNORE..

I have not bought anything from you nor sold any.NOW shut the fuck up and don't bug me again

How about you stay on topic and repay the $80 Bitcoin you owe me?

Yes,you will get it once it s confirmed by the bank
But mind..once it is confirmed..I will not send directly to you ..but to a escrow and before releasing it and you will be contacting everyone you told to leave me neg rep and asking them to remove it

My first condition for the deal was ,payment only only confirmation from my bank or release after confirmation with escrow
You have not waited and chose to open a scam report.I don't mind it.But as it has gone far..I will be paying only when the funds are in my account

I'm good. All the people who left you trust, including me, are active users who will promptly remove their neg rep upon payment.

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Quote from: Leave on June 16, 2016, 04:35:14 PM

Quote from: kirch on June 16, 2016, 03:22:02 PM

Quote from: Benoit2 on June 16, 2016, 01:11:42 PM

hey kirch why you can response here and not my PMs?
This guy is ignoring me since 2 days i sended him alot of PMs waiting for a response dont know what i did wrong.
i guess this user is a Big BIG Timewaster and apparently a scammer.

Shut the fuck up..have I bought anything from you ??
you offered me to sell chaturbate account with 4000 tokens and told me that it was your own account and want to sell as you need urgent cash..but when I asked you to send me order proofs,you bought tokens and send me the screenshot..and you have admitted that you have bought with a stolen credit cand assured that they will not be reversed..I said I I am not interested in carded stuff..still you were begging to buy it..I told you to contact me later as I was not interested..you have PMed me begging to buy..I chose to IGNORE..

I have not bought anything from you nor sold any.NOW shut the fuck up and don't bug me again

How about you stay on topic and repay the $80 Bitcoin you owe me?

Yes,you will get it once it s confirmed by the bank
But mind..once it is confirmed..I will not send directly to you ..but to a escrow and before releasing it and you will be contacting everyone you told to leave me neg rep and asking them to remove it

My first condition for the deal was ,payment only only confirmation from my bank or release after confirmation with escrow
You have not waited and chose to open a scam report.I don't mind it.But as it has gone far..I will be paying only when the funds are in my account

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Quote from: Leave on June 16, 2016, 04:35:14 PM

Quote from: kirch on June 16, 2016, 03:22:02 PM

Quote from: Benoit2 on June 16, 2016, 01:11:42 PM

hey kirch why you can response here and not my PMs?
This guy is ignoring me since 2 days i sended him alot of PMs waiting for a response dont know what i did wrong.
i guess this user is a Big BIG Timewaster and apparently a scammer.

Shut the fuck up..have I bought anything from you ??
you offered me to sell chaturbate account with 4000 tokens and told me that it was your own account and want to sell as you need urgent cash..but when I asked you to send me order proofs,you bought tokens and send me the screenshot..and you have admitted that you have bought with a stolen credit cand assured that they will not be reversed..I said I I am not interested in carded stuff..still you were begging to buy it..I told you to contact me later as I was not interested..you have PMed me begging to buy..I chose to IGNORE..

I have not bought anything from you nor sold any.NOW shut the fuck up and don't bug me again

How about you stay on topic and repay the $80 Bitcoin you owe me?

It sucks, but talking to him wont help you get the btc back.

Just hope you have btc to buy in now or have btc still and make up the loss of difference when the halving hits to make up the scammed loss.

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Quote from: kirch on June 16, 2016, 03:22:02 PM

Quote from: Benoit2 on June 16, 2016, 01:11:42 PM

hey kirch why you can response here and not my PMs?
This guy is ignoring me since 2 days i sended him alot of PMs waiting for a response dont know what i did wrong.
i guess this user is a Big BIG Timewaster and apparently a scammer.

Shut the fuck up..have I bought anything from you ??
you offered me to sell chaturbate account with 4000 tokens and told me that it was your own account and want to sell as you need urgent cash..but when I asked you to send me order proofs,you bought tokens and send me the screenshot..and you have admitted that you have bought with a stolen credit cand assured that they will not be reversed..I said I I am not interested in carded stuff..still you were begging to buy it..I told you to contact me later as I was not interested..you have PMed me begging to buy..I chose to IGNORE..

I have not bought anything from you nor sold any.NOW shut the fuck up and don't bug me again

How about you stay on topic and repay the $80 Bitcoin you owe me?

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Despite the trust, if you notice on the right its only +1 marker.

Usually if youre making a deal with low trusted rep like that - its still for escrow. Anyone trusted known will have minimum of +14 rep or more.

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Quote from: kirch on June 16, 2016, 03:22:02 PM

Quote from: Benoit2 on June 16, 2016, 01:11:42 PM

hey kirch why you can response here and not my PMs?
This guy is ignoring me since 2 days i sended him alot of PMs waiting for a response dont know what i did wrong.
i guess this user is a Big BIG Timewaster and apparently a scammer.

Shut the fuck up..have I bought anything from you ??
you offered me to sell chaturbate account with 4000 tokens and told me that it was your own account and want to sell as you need urgent cash..but when I asked you to send me order proofs,you bought tokens and send me the screenshot..and you have admitted that you have bought with a stolen credit cand assured that they will not be reversed..I said I I am not interested in carded stuff..still you were begging to buy it..I told you to contact me later as I was not interested..you have PMed me begging to buy..I chose to IGNORE..

I have not bought anything from you nor sold any.NOW shut the fuck up and don't bug me again

Dont be disrespectful just because your a scammer.
I did not say you have bought anything from me just made my point that your a big timewaster. Defend yourself right!
Even if your not buying it you should have PMed me back to let me know that your not buying but appearently your were to busy with scamming people.
You said himself that your buying it in 2days if the tokens are still on the account and its still is and it will forever. (and look you dont mention this one haha) got screenshots from skype. So why you fucking waste my time instead of letting me know that your not buying?

Again a big timewaster here who doesnt care shit about peoples Pms.
Hopefully you get banned for scamming people.
Dont you think ignoring people is enough? Now you steal money,giftcards whatever from others and ignoring them too.
Scum.

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Quote from: Benoit2 on June 16, 2016, 01:11:42 PM

hey kirch why you can response here and not my PMs?
This guy is ignoring me since 2 days i sended him alot of PMs waiting for a response dont know what i did wrong.
i guess this user is a Big BIG Timewaster and apparently a scammer.

Shut the fuck up..have I bought anything from you ??
you offered me to sell chaturbate account with 4000 tokens and told me that it was your own account and want to sell as you need urgent cash..but when I asked you to send me order proofs,you bought tokens and send me the screenshot..and you have admitted that you have bought with a stolen credit cand assured that they will not be reversed..I said I I am not interested in carded stuff..still you were begging to buy it..I told you to contact me later as I was not interested..you have PMed me begging to buy..I chose to IGNORE..

I have not bought anything from you nor sold any.NOW shut the fuck up and don't bug me again

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hey kirch why you can response here and not my PMs?
This guy is ignoring me since 2 days i sended him alot of PMs waiting for a response dont know what i did wrong.
i guess this user is a Big BIG Timewaster and apparently a scammer.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 16, 2016, 12:32:14 AM

Take a look all over this section of the forum and youll see many of the same types of deals happening. Your 1st mistake was not using an escrow. Your second mistake(as if the 1st 1 wasnt bad enough) was automatically trusting a user just because he is a hero member.

You should always use an escrow when making these types of trades as people buy ad sell accounts all the time here. You could also try and do a little research on a user and see if hes always been active or has any other recent trades that were successful.

Yup, I did exactly this earlier this year. Just because someone has a hero or legendary account or green trust doesn't mean you can trust them. Accounts are sold here all the time. Sorry for your loss OP.

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Quote from: Leave on June 16, 2016, 10:59:37 AM

Message from OP

Kirch is most likely scamming, although I'll give him until tomorrow before this is final. The giftrocket was cashed out 3 days ago. Bank transfer take no longer then 4 days. If tomorrow I do not receive the money, this stays up for good.

We agreed that he pays $70 of the $100 if he pays instantly, or $80 if I wait for the money to arrive in his bank. Kirch now owes me $80 instead of $70 for waiting for the money to arrive, even though he communicated to me clearly that he can pay within max 24 hours.

i hope this matter gets settled for you

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Kirch is most likely scamming, although I'll give him until tomorrow before this is final. The giftrocket was cashed out 3 days ago. Bank transfer take no longer then 4 days. If tomorrow I do not receive the money, this stays up for good.

We agreed that he pays $70 of the $100 if he pays instantly, or $80 if I wait for the money to arrive in his bank. Kirch now owes me $80 instead of $70 for waiting for the money to arrive, even though he communicated to me clearly that he can pay within max 24 hours.

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Quote from: kirch on June 16, 2016, 08:22:13 AM

Quote from: EcuaMobi on June 16, 2016, 07:50:42 AM

Quote from: kirch on June 16, 2016, 06:12:45 AM

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So you're waiting for a while before paying the BTC? Did you redeem the card or not?
Do you realize how poor your communication is? You had to clearly tell him whether or not you redeem the card and how long he'll have to wait for his payment before even starting the deal.
So how are things standing now? Are you still waiting? Will you pay OP?

And one last thing: if you suspect someone is selling carded stuff just don't deal with that person at all.

I did this before and the money is deposited to bank ,the next day or some times shows as pending /processing in my account if it done during bank hrs
But even after 24 hrs,I have not received into my bank.I contacted the bank and they told to find out with sender..I don't have any info from senders part..expect a link to redeem.So I have to wait till I see the transfer in the bank.I don't know if it will come through or blocked by sending inst.
I have told the OP till I get confirmation

I have not said I suspected ..I just want to be sure it is not carded as there are many instances of people getting scammed with carded gift cards

ya you got busted scamming, now your trying to make up the cash to save face.
damage is done dude, even if you pay him back you basically took a loan under false pretense here.
too bad game over, 70$ worth your account? apparently.
i see alot of "green trust" members with ratings so old and obscure, escrow guys, or cry later ;\

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Quote from: EcuaMobi on June 16, 2016, 07:50:42 AM

Quote from: kirch on June 16, 2016, 06:12:45 AM

...

So you're waiting for a while before paying the BTC? Did you redeem the card or not?
Do you realize how poor your communication is? You had to clearly tell him whether or not you redeem the card and how long he'll have to wait for his payment before even starting the deal.
So how are things standing now? Are you still waiting? Will you pay OP?

And one last thing: if you suspect someone is selling carded stuff just don't deal with that person at all.

I did this before and the money is deposited to bank ,the next day or some times shows as pending /processing in my account if it done during bank hrs
But even after 24 hrs,I have not received into my bank.I contacted the bank and they told to find out with sender..I don't have any info from senders part..expect a link to redeem.So I have to wait till I see the transfer in the bank.I don't know if it will come through or blocked by sending inst.
I have told the OP till I get confirmation

I have not said I suspected ..I just want to be sure it is not carded as there are many instances of people getting scammed with carded gift cards

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Doing a $70/BTC Trade is uite expensive and not wort the value of that account (I don't think, based on an idea that a Sr Member account with good trust is worth around 0.1BTC and $70 is around 0.15BTC).

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Quote from: kirch on June 16, 2016, 06:12:45 AM

...

So you're waiting for a while before paying the BTC? Did you redeem the card or not?
Do you realize how poor your communication is? You had to clearly tell him whether or not you redeem the card and how long he'll have to wait for his payment before even starting the deal.
So how are things standing now? Are you still waiting? Will you pay OP?

And one last thing: if you suspect someone is selling carded stuff just don't deal with that person at all.

kirch

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Quote from: KenR on June 16, 2016, 06:41:39 AM

Rule Number 1: Don't deal with green trusted members just because they have a green trust.You know the accounts are heavily sold here regardless of their trust.

Rule Number 2 : Why haven't you used an escrow ? Over confidence much ?

Rule Number 3 : Gift card trades are risky.You should have never went first.

Pls check my reply again..I have updated
The OP is not sure of the card and he wanted me to 'Take a Chance' !

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Rule Number 1: Don't deal with green trusted members just because they have a green trust.You know the accounts are heavily sold here regardless of their trust.

Rule Number 2 : Why haven't you used an escrow ? Over confidence much ?

Rule Number 3 : Gift card trades are risky.You should have never went first.

kirch

hero member

Activity: 658

Merit: 500

I have NOT scammed any one..I told him that I need to confirm the deposit before paying..
The moment he sent me the card..he starting bugging me that he will open scam report and not even waited for me to respond

The OP should have considered the time zone difference and waited enough for response

I INSISTED OP TO USE ESCROW.BUT HE HAS NOT.I HAVE NOT SCAMMED ANY ONE AND I WANTED TO BE SAFE COS MOST GIFT CARDS SOLD HERE ARE CARDED AND I HAVE ALREADY BEEN SCAMMED COUPLE OF TIMES HERE

All thise who commented here and left a neg rep..

Check the skype Screeshot and come to opinion if I have intention of scamming.I see redflags and be sure /protect by self from getting scammed

bazar165g

sr. member

Activity: 500

Merit: 250

a guy from 2013 , woo..so sad , that they are scamming in-spite of being trusted. That is why i dont trust these guys even if they have green trust , ever if i need to trade then i will use escrow and only with Ognasty , vod Or Monbux.
Sorry For your Loss OP!

KWH

legendary

Activity: 1904

Merit: 1045

In Collateral I Trust.

You made the trade, you didn't follow basic trading guidelines and were scammed. Bitcointalk had nothing to do with your trade or actions but seems reasonable to blame the forum? Roll Eyes

yahoo62278

legendary

Activity: 3766

Merit: 4554

Contact @yahoo62278 on telegram for marketing

Quote from: immangrace on June 16, 2016, 04:40:39 AM

Scammed by a green trust member is really bad, although I always say escrow should have been used, green trust is a sign thet this user is trusted enough to bypass escrow.
Still OP's fault, should have used escrow, but the blame is also on user kirch for abusing his green trust status

Are you serious LMFAO? Huh

Green numbers dont mean a damn thing around here man. Means at some point the person had a few ppl trust the account but you dont know if theyre the original owner nowdays. As i stated before unless its someone super trusted and extremely active its always best to use escrow.

FYI even legendary and DT accounts are being auctioned off now days. DO NOT TRUST ANYONE unless you know for sure theyre legit and even then use escrow just for the protection.

immangrace

full member

Activity: 196

Merit: 100

Scammed by a green trust member is really bad, although I always say escrow should have been used, green trust is a sign thet this user is trusted enough to bypass escrow.
Still OP's fault, should have used escrow, but the blame is also on user kirch for abusing his green trust status

janggernaut

legendary

Activity: 2394

Merit: 1131

Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 16, 2016, 12:32:14 AM

Take a look all over this section of the forum and youll see many of the same types of deals happening. Your 1st mistake was not using an escrow. Your second mistake(as if the 1st 1 wasnt bad enough) was automatically trusting a user just because he is a hero member.

You should always use an escrow when making these types of trades as people buy ad sell accounts all the time here. You could also try and do a little research on a user and see if hes always been active or has any other recent trades that were successful.

His account still Sr.Member and i think the reason why OP didnt use escrow because kirch's account has green trust, so no need escrow ( but im agree 95% with yahoo's statement if we must always using escrow when dealing with someone (except hes very very trusted person))

yahoo62278

legendary

Activity: 3766

Merit: 4554

Contact @yahoo62278 on telegram for marketing

Take a look all over this section of the forum and youll see many of the same types of deals happening. Your 1st mistake was not using an escrow. Your second mistake(as if the 1st 1 wasnt bad enough) was automatically trusting a user just because he is a hero member.

You should always use an escrow when making these types of trades as people buy ad sell accounts all the time here. You could also try and do a little research on a user and see if hes always been active or has any other recent trades that were successful.

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newbie

Activity: 47

Merit: 0

User: kirch - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kirch-92027

Deal: $100 Giftrocket for $70 in Bitcoin. I had the giftrocket, was trading for his BTC.
What is a giftrocket?: A gift card which is straight money, that you can cashout straight to your bank account.

What went wrong?: kirch cashed out my Giftrocket and never sent me BTC. He said 3-24 hours and its been well past 48 hours. Kirch has been online yet has not responded to my PM's.

1) Giftrocket was cashed out at around 6 PM EST on June 13. I noticed around 7 PM and instantly PM'd him, asking if he just cashed out my $100. He denies it. Proof: https://gyazo.com/035870ec88d22739a87b4bc1c87fec87

2) I PM him again, asking again if he just cashed it out. I threatened to open a scam report, because he just clearly cashed it out right after I sent it to him, and now he is denying claiming. He responds with: https://gyazo.com/d9b8aea9d1abe18353dd39dd2cdbe692

3) I say ok.. I won't open it. I'll wait the 3-24 hours and see if you pay up. I PM him again, no response. 3 PM's now and nothing: https://gyazo.com/912e7e72e4f141a2701e1e18d614ea43

Proof Giftrocket is claimed: https://gyazo.com/5e8ddd821ed8470d115a20e7faaa49e3

Someone please tag with - trust. User is obviously scamming me and I needed that money. Good job bitcointalk, endorsing scammers by giving them green trust.

Topic: *SCAMMED* $100 by GREEN TRUST Member! User = kirch || UID = 92027 (Read 2867 times)

Topic: SCAMMED $100 by GREEN TRUST Member! User = kirch || UID = 92027 (Read 2867 times)