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Topic: [SCAMMED BY DER KLOMANN] Exchange 100€ Paysafecard - Bitcoin (or skrill) (Read 3403 times)

KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
This was the same guy that scammed me, na on skype.

He was then using the names Schnudelu and visualelite.

someone needs to permban this piece of scum.

Won't make any difference as a new account will be made in minutes. What people need to do is stop the Skype and "back room deals" and use escrow where possible. Usually it's greed that fuels these "deals" and the scammers know and use it to the fullest.
newbie
Activity: 35
Merit: 0
This was the same guy that scammed me, na on skype.

He was then using the names Schnudelu and visualelite.

someone needs to permban this piece of scum.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
JohnyCL = Bitcoin-Police

you made me laugh so hard when i saw this  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
That one was a good one you made my day dickhead Cheesy

Catch me if you can muahahahhahahahahahaha
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
Bitcoin-Police - Your friend and helper
No i not admit to scam him i am fully avalible to help this matter

the fact his that his psc card was just 0.37 euro cents



*EDIT*

THIS LAST SCREENSHOT IS A BIG FAKE


well op if you are not honest here i will just make a new account and start over no worries

Admit the code was used at least !


Der Klomann is a well known scammer from Berlin in Germany. We have opened a case with the Police department in Berlin. They are working on it and it's only a matter of time until Der Klomann will be procecuted.

Der Klomann = SCAM-POTENTIAL = 100%

Bitcoin-Police - Your friend and helper
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
FYX
full member
Activity: 120
Merit: 100
BitVestors.com Community Manager
Contact the Paysafecard support, cause if the card had been used for Poker, Casino etc. (as he said at least), you can also contact the Casino shown in the transaction's statement on Paysafecard.com

Then they can freeze the funds of this thief (and may refund the money)

newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
How pathetic  Grin You stole 98 euros.

At least have some respect and  admit it publicly.

And no it's not fake, i can even record a video or do Teamviever session.

Close your pathetic website while you can.
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1064
besided this, i really not care this PSC code was used so i not got any bucks  Grin

You are admitting to scamming him?

He is, that is why I am very suspicious when newbie account start giving advice or suggest to other newbie account.

OP did a lot of things wrong here. If you don't protect yourself, you will get burned.

Agree, I never understand why newbie trust to another newbie, why they don't use escrow.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
No i not admit to scam him i am fully avalible to help this matter

the fact his that his psc card was just 0.37 euro cents



*EDIT*

THIS LAST SCREENSHOT IS A BIG FAKE


well op if you are not honest here i will just make a new account and start over no worries

Admit the code was used at least !
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
besided this, i really not care this PSC code was used so i not got any bucks  Grin

You are admitting to scamming him?

He is, that is why I am very suspicious when newbie account start giving advice or suggest to other newbie account.

OP did a lot of things wrong here. If you don't protect yourself, you will get burned.
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1064
besided this, i really not care this PSC code was used so i not got any bucks  Grin

You are admitting to scamming him?

He is, that is why I am very suspicious when newbie account start giving advice or suggest to other newbie account.
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
besided this, i really not care this PSC code was used so i not got any bucks  Grin

You are admitting to scamming him?
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
besided this, i really not care this PSC code was used so i not got any bucks  Grin
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1064
That skype log is COPY past do screenshot the half of this is faked !

You did not said this before that log is faked. So much flag from your side.
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
And you scam artist better show more because your code was used and just 34 CENTS left

You dirty liar. https://i.imgur.com/GUJbhrO.png

I can do full wideo with whole skype chatlog...
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
That skype log is COPY past do screenshot the half of this is faked !
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1064
And you scam artist better show more because your code was used and just 34 CENTS left

He scammed other means you have license to scammed him. And where is proof he scammed artist.
BTW who is artist.

P.S. where is your 45 feedbacks.

[2014-09-22 22:44:30] na: i have ober 45 feedbacks lol
[2014-09-22 22:44:39] na: you may not see it maybe as newbie .. :/
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
And you scam artist better show more because your code was used and just 34 CENTS left
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
You need to start a thread in Scam Accusations.
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
Well, that's it i lost my money.

Full log here. Can you ban this liar?

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[2014-09-22 22:40:51] na: Hello
[2014-09-22 22:41:09] thagft: Hi xdav80, I'd like to add you as a contact.
[2014-09-22 22:41:25] *** xdav80 wymienił się szczegółowymi danymi z na. ***
[2014-09-22 22:41:31] na: Are you from the states ?
[2014-09-22 22:41:38] xdav80: Hello
[2014-09-22 22:41:46] na: I just wonder how you have PSC in EURO if you are american Cheesy
[2014-09-22 22:41:55] xdav80: Nope, not really
[2014-09-22 22:42:15] na: oh where u from Smiley
[2014-09-22 22:42:52] xdav80:  EU
[2014-09-22 22:42:54] xdav80: Poland
[2014-09-22 22:42:59] na: oh ok
[2014-09-22 22:43:04] xdav80: Sometimes i travel  to my girlfriend in denver but i live in EU
[2014-09-22 22:43:06] na: well i can give you 81 euro
[2014-09-22 22:43:07] na: skrill ..
[2014-09-22 22:43:23] xdav80: Well, sounds cool. Escrow?
[2014-09-22 22:43:47] na: No who guartantee me the code work Wink check my trust
[2014-09-22 22:43:48] na: ^^
[2014-09-22 22:44:21] xdav80: Hmm you have only one point Cheesy sorry
[2014-09-22 22:44:28] xdav80: I got my card from www.wertkartenverkauf.com
[2014-09-22 22:44:30] na: i have ober 45 feedbacks lol
[2014-09-22 22:44:39] na: you may not see it maybe as newbie .. :/
[2014-09-22 22:44:43] na: well good luck than Smiley
[2014-09-22 22:44:49] xdav80: I paid for some junk, but i cannot use it in PL with mypaysafecard
[2014-09-22 22:44:54] na: oh
[2014-09-22 22:44:54] na: :/
[2014-09-22 22:45:28] xdav80: but i paid succesfully on some other sites with it. No idea whats wrong
[2014-09-22 22:45:43] na: you paid this card via credit card ?
[2014-09-22 22:45:56] xdav80: Nope, bank transfer
[2014-09-22 22:46:07] na: one more red flag for me sorry
[2014-09-22 22:46:11] na: you could reverse that
[2014-09-22 22:46:16] na: anyone on the forum will say same
[2014-09-22 22:46:17] xdav80: bank transfer??
[2014-09-22 22:46:22] na: a lot scam going on
[2014-09-22 22:46:23] na: oh yes
[2014-09-22 22:46:27] na: even bank transfer
[2014-09-22 22:46:29] xdav80: lol Cheesy
[2014-09-22 22:46:34] na: you lol
[2014-09-22 22:46:37] na: but is sadly true
[2014-09-22 22:46:50] xdav80: Mate, you cannot reverse wire bank transfers, at least in PL.
[2014-09-22 22:46:55] xdav80: check in google
[2014-09-22 22:47:06 | Edytowano 22:47:09] na: i do not know is just safety
[2014-09-22 22:47:43] xdav80: It's more safe than credit card and chargeback.
[2014-09-22 22:47:46] xdav80: Anyway, i'll wait for somebody who can do escrow
[2014-09-22 22:47:59] na: no one doing ESCORW :
[2014-09-22 22:48:14] na: Vhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14632.0
[2014-09-22 22:48:23] na: - Paysafecards
[2014-09-22 22:48:28] xdav80: Hmm well then i'll wait for somebody who have bigger trust ratio. No offence Wink
[2014-09-22 22:48:48] na: no one will buy it if you not find anyone let me know
[2014-09-22 22:49:21] xdav80: FYI if you want to use it on skrill it won't work
[2014-09-22 22:49:36] xdav80: You need german PSC account
[2014-09-22 22:49:36] na: i not use it on skrill
[2014-09-22 22:49:39] na: i have
[2014-09-22 22:49:44] na: i am german\
[2014-09-22 22:49:45] na: lol
[2014-09-22 22:50:00] na: ein echter deutscher Wink
[2014-09-22 22:50:34] na: you know www.virwox.com ?
[2014-09-22 22:50:40] na: you could just exchange it there
[2014-09-22 22:50:44] na: is instead Smiley
[2014-09-22 22:51:16] xdav80: Nope their PSC system requires PSC account
[2014-09-22 22:51:24] na: oh :/
[2014-09-22 22:51:32] xdav80: And i cannot add this card to polish account
[2014-09-22 22:51:39] na: strange
[2014-09-22 22:51:41] na: (worry)
[2014-09-22 22:51:44] xdav80: It's fucked up
[2014-09-22 22:52:11] na: well i am not here to cheat you, psc can be reversed thats a fact if you not find anyone let me know
[2014-09-22 22:52:47] xdav80: Wait
[2014-09-22 22:53:07] xdav80: If PSC card can be reversed i can reverse it at any time after your purchase Cheesy
[2014-09-22 22:53:15] na: yes
[2014-09-22 22:53:20] xdav80: no way mate
[2014-09-22 22:53:32] xdav80: Skype says that you're from taiwan
[2014-09-22 22:53:34] na: ok anyone on the forum lies
[2014-09-22 22:53:37] xdav80: or thailand
[2014-09-22 22:53:40] na: no it says thailand
[2014-09-22 22:53:46] na: and that account i did on vacation
[2014-09-22 22:53:47] xdav80: yeah sorry
[2014-09-22 22:53:50] na: lets talk german Wink
[2014-09-22 22:53:57] xdav80: Ja
[2014-09-22 22:54:04] na: dann sag was
[2014-09-22 22:54:18] na: ich gebe dir das geld per skrill aber nicht sofort
[2014-09-22 22:54:18] na: ..
[2014-09-22 22:54:48] xdav80: Heh mate i can speak in english and chineese but nod german Sad
[2014-09-22 22:54:57] xdav80: Well idk what to do... shit
[2014-09-22 22:54:58] na: was just to proof i am german Cheesy
[2014-09-22 22:55:02] xdav80: it's 100 euro
[2014-09-22 22:55:09] na: 98 Tongue
[2014-09-22 22:55:22] xdav80: yeah, still, a lot of cash for me
[2014-09-22 22:55:29] na: but you are right i do understanding you
[2014-09-22 22:55:29] xdav80: especially now
[2014-09-22 22:55:32] xdav80: anyway wait
[2014-09-22 22:55:41] na: but you will have 99,99 % no luck on the forum ^^
[2014-09-22 22:55:51] xdav80: Do you have german phone number?
[2014-09-22 22:55:55] na: yup
[2014-09-22 22:56:36] na: you dont belive me hu ?
[2014-09-22 22:56:37] na: wait
[2014-09-22 22:56:56] *** na wysłano IMG_20140914_004329.jpg ***
[2014-09-22 22:57:00] na: not share that around ...
[2014-09-22 22:57:54] xdav80: Man
[2014-09-22 22:58:01] xdav80: wtf i'm supposed to do? Cheesy
[2014-09-22 22:58:06] na: ..
[2014-09-22 22:58:10] na: do what you like
[2014-09-22 22:58:20] na: i have nothing to hide Smiley
[2014-09-22 22:59:35] xdav80: mind blown
[2014-09-22 22:59:36] xdav80: wait
[2014-09-22 22:59:43] na: take your time
[2014-09-22 23:01:26] xdav80: Do another photo with your id card and skype nick on a piece of paper
[2014-09-22 23:01:31] xdav80: the i'll believe you
[2014-09-22 23:01:33] xdav80: Cheesy
[2014-09-22 23:01:54] na: i am not here to share my id's around the world i am not in an extremly need of it
[2014-09-22 23:02:16] xdav80: Well, you already shared it
[2014-09-22 23:02:29] xdav80: not that i'm gonnapost it somewhere
[2014-09-22 23:02:38] xdav80: i just want your nick ona paper
[2014-09-22 23:02:41] xdav80: on a*
[2014-09-22 23:02:49] na: if you not accept wht i showed you forget it
[2014-09-22 23:03:14] na: once more : www.virwox.com
[2014-09-22 23:03:23] na: change it there is easy and quick Smiley
[2014-09-22 23:04:48] xdav80: I'm not gonna change anything, like i said you sent me a photo of ID card,  but i have 0 guarantee that it's your ID card. You can do another photo with your id card, and piece of paper with your skype name. Then i'll be sure
[2014-09-22 23:04:51] xdav80: No offense.
[2014-09-22 23:04:59] na: [22 września 2014 23:02] na:

<<< once more : www.virwox.com
[2014-09-22 23:05:11] na: i am not in a desperate need of it ^^
[2014-09-22 23:06:15] xdav80: Virvox needs PSC account from the same country as PSC card (in this case germany) so i cannot do that. But thanks anyway Wink
[2014-09-22 23:06:23] na: do an account
[2014-09-22 23:06:27] na: is quick
[2014-09-22 23:06:31] na: use a german proxy/vpn
[2014-09-22 23:06:31] na: Wink
[2014-09-22 23:06:43] xdav80: I don't have german phone number
[2014-09-22 23:06:48] na: il lend you mine
[2014-09-22 23:06:49] na: Cheesy
[2014-09-22 23:06:53] na: my number
[2014-09-22 23:06:54] xdav80: AYK
[2014-09-22 23:06:59] na: ayk?
[2014-09-22 23:07:06] xdav80: Are you Kidding? Cheesy
[2014-09-22 23:07:11] na: na
[2014-09-22 23:07:12] na: why
[2014-09-22 23:07:19] na: if it helps you ..
[2014-09-22 23:07:19] xdav80: idk...
[2014-09-22 23:07:38] xdav80: Well i can give you some euros after that Cheesy
[2014-09-22 23:07:44] na: not need..
[2014-09-22 23:07:49] na: i am not that poor
[2014-09-22 23:07:50] na: ^^
[2014-09-22 23:07:56] xdav80: Doesnt' matter
[2014-09-22 23:08:09] na: i just wanted to buy it for some games becaus i need 1 card tomorrow anyway
[2014-09-22 23:09:45] xdav80: Well you can do what i said before and get 100 euro card for 85 euros  or lend  me your phone number for PSC's SMS verification, i'll give you for that 10 euros on a PSC card or in Bitcoins
[2014-09-22 23:09:54] xdav80: 98,3*
[2014-09-22 23:09:55] na: i not need your free money
[2014-09-22 23:09:57] na: last time
[2014-09-22 23:10:14] na: maybe you got scammed before
[2014-09-22 23:10:18] na: but i am NOT a scammer
[2014-09-22 23:10:20] na: ..
[2014-09-22 23:10:20] xdav80: 3 times
[2014-09-22 23:10:23] na: ok bye
[2014-09-22 23:10:37] xdav80: Wait. What about phone number? Sad
[2014-09-22 23:11:08] na: Not intressted anymore
[2014-09-22 23:11:12] xdav80: Ok
[2014-09-22 23:11:31] na: +4917695370242
[2014-09-22 23:11:34] na: ..
[2014-09-22 23:11:43] na: lol you delete me so quick
[2014-09-22 23:11:54] na: that proofs how you are a poor scammer :/
[2014-09-22 23:12:03] xdav80: ?
[2014-09-22 23:12:11] na: why you removed me from skype
[2014-09-22 23:12:12] na: lol
[2014-09-22 23:12:18] na: poor kid
[2014-09-22 23:12:19] xdav80: You said you're not interested anymore
[2014-09-22 23:12:20] na: Sad
[2014-09-22 23:12:27] na: 1 sec after i gave you the number
[2014-09-22 23:12:34] na: make quick i whant to go ..
[2014-09-22 23:12:34] xdav80: before that
[2014-09-22 23:12:37] na: +4917695370242
[2014-09-22 23:12:49] xdav80: You kno what
[2014-09-22 23:12:50] xdav80: Ok
[2014-09-22 23:13:06] xdav80: I'll give you that damn card
[2014-09-22 23:13:15] *** xdav80 wysłano pscard.gif pscard.gif ***
[2014-09-22 23:13:16] na: for skrill right ?
[2014-09-22 23:13:34] xdav80: Yeah, 80 euros
[2014-09-22 23:13:54] na: ok give me 1 sec
[2014-09-22 23:14:34] na: add me on skype pls
[2014-09-22 23:14:38] na: i see you as offline
[2014-09-22 23:14:45] na: that make me nervous
[2014-09-22 23:15:13] na: so 98 is remaning ?
[2014-09-22 23:15:22] xdav80: Yeah, you can check it
[2014-09-22 23:15:40] na: i belive you let me funding skrill
[2014-09-22 23:15:43] na: whats your skrill id ?
[2014-09-22 23:15:48] xdav80: [email protected]
[2014-09-22 23:16:09] na: ok it takes MAX 5 minutes to funding it
[2014-09-22 23:16:14] xdav80: Hmm okay
[2014-09-22 23:16:20] na: and not forget my feedback later pls
[2014-09-22 23:16:33] xdav80: Don't worry Smiley
[2014-09-22 23:17:25] na: i am here just moved the pc for skrill Cheesy
[2014-09-22 23:18:49] xdav80: np
[2014-09-22 23:21:12] na: funded
[2014-09-22 23:21:15] na: Smiley
[2014-09-22 23:21:17] na: will send now
[2014-09-22 23:21:29] xdav80: 80
[2014-09-22 23:21:35] na: eur
[2014-09-22 23:21:38] na: yup
[2014-09-22 23:22:00] na: na man i am not a thief i send 90 .. not whant to profit from you
[2014-09-22 23:22:08] xdav80: 80
[2014-09-22 23:22:10] xdav80: isaid it
[2014-09-22 23:22:13] xdav80: Smiley
[2014-09-22 23:22:20] na: ok your choice (worry)
[2014-09-22 23:22:23] xdav80: It's stupid that i cannot use this card on polish acc.
[2014-09-22 23:22:41] na: why you even bought it
[2014-09-22 23:22:52] xdav80: I wanted to fund my Skrill Cheesy
[2014-09-22 23:22:59] xdav80: But my CC expired
[2014-09-22 23:23:07] na: oha
[2014-09-22 23:27:45] xdav80: Smiley
[2014-09-22 23:27:47] na: check skrill
[2014-09-22 23:28:33] xdav80: I don't see anything
[2014-09-22 23:28:41] xdav80: Just my 2PLN
[2014-09-22 23:29:51] xdav80: Sad
[2014-09-22 23:30:01] na: i check no wrry
[2014-09-22 23:32:04] xdav80: and?
[2014-09-22 23:32:24] na: Transaction id 3048955
[2014-09-22 23:32:32] na: you did not accepted yet
[2014-09-22 23:32:43] xdav80: where you sent it?
[2014-09-22 23:32:58] na: is unclaimed here
[2014-09-22 23:32:59] na: Smiley
[2014-09-22 23:34:00] *** xdav80 wysłano Bez tytułu.png Bez tytułu.png ***
[2014-09-22 23:35:31] xdav80: Nothing here. It should be wisible by now. IDK
[2014-09-22 23:35:56] na: i not used psc yet let me cancel and resend
[2014-09-22 23:36:25] xdav80: you said you funded your skrill account with it...
[2014-09-22 23:36:59] na: na i said i funed
[2014-09-22 23:37:06] na: i not said how Cheesy
[2014-09-22 23:37:13] xdav80: Yhm ok
[2014-09-22 23:38:23] xdav80: you can send it thru bitcoin if skrill hangs
[2014-09-22 23:39:36] xdav80: 1mwxUGoXadTtZrCLLgp44xfBgNTVQ4i3G
[2014-09-22 23:41:23] xdav80: Are you there? Sad
[2014-09-22 23:41:36] na: here i just check this skrill matter
[2014-09-22 23:41:43] na: i not use the card till is fixed
[2014-09-22 23:41:53] na: give me 5 minutes or i send BTC
[2014-09-22 23:42:08] xdav80: well i would prefer BTC at this time anyway
[2014-09-22 23:42:39] xdav80: So if if you can send me 80 eur throughBTC that would be great
[2014-09-22 23:45:52] na: ehm hello ?
[2014-09-22 23:49:40] xdav80: Yeah i'm here
[2014-09-22 23:49:48] na: i touighy you was gone
[2014-09-22 23:49:52] na: Cheesy
[2014-09-22 23:49:58] xdav80: I was busy for a while
[2014-09-22 23:50:19] xdav80: So, can you send me VTC?
[2014-09-22 23:50:22] xdav80: BTC*
[2014-09-22 23:51:19] na: ok just where i can check the balance again to be sure ?!
[2014-09-22 23:51:29] xdav80: Balance of what?
[2014-09-22 23:52:32] xdav80: Hello?
[2014-09-22 23:52:33] xdav80: https://www.paysafecard.com/en-lt/check-balance/
[2014-09-22 23:54:19] xdav80: Can you speed it up? i don't have whole hour, it's been 20 minutes already
[2014-09-22 23:54:48] xdav80: Skrill didn't worked so send it thru BTC please
[2014-09-22 23:54:59] na: the balance is not even right
[2014-09-22 23:55:08] na: i knew it was fishy
[2014-09-22 23:55:11] xdav80: what?
[2014-09-22 23:56:17] xdav80: 0.37 EUR!
[2014-09-22 23:56:24] xdav80: YOU FUCKING THIEF
[2014-09-22 23:56:33] na: yes the thief is you
[2014-09-22 23:56:37] na: the balance is false
[2014-09-22 23:56:43] na: i will report you
[2014-09-22 23:56:44] xdav80: Why man why you did this for me
[2014-09-22 23:57:00] xdav80: that was my last 100 euros you fucking liar Sad
[2014-09-22 23:57:12] xdav80: i'm gong to starve, are you happy?
[2014-09-22 23:57:24] xdav80: ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?
[2014-09-22 23:57:35] xdav80: i even wanted to give you 20 euros but no
[2014-09-22 23:57:40] xdav80: you stole it all
[2014-09-22 23:58:20] xdav80: I have full logs and i'm gonna call PSC for full transaction histroy
[2014-09-22 23:58:45] xdav80: Now i know why you were so busy
[2014-09-22 23:58:49] xdav80: tailand POS
[2014-09-22 23:59:15] xdav80: Police will find you. I hope you'll get what i'm gonna get Sad
[00:01:01] na: omg
[00:01:12] na: it was a joke man ^^ and once more i am GERMAN
[00:01:15] na: not thai
[00:01:28] na: watch your skrill in the next 5 minutes .. i did gmai.com
[00:01:34] xdav80: WHAT THE HELL
[00:01:44] na: calm down Wink
[00:01:49] xdav80: DON'T do this again man...
[00:02:07] xdav80: I almost got heart attack...
[00:02:10] na: it was a mail typo this why it showed as pending/ not accepted
[00:02:11] na: Cheesy
[00:02:13] xdav80: That's my last 100 euros
[00:02:23] na: regive me the mail pls
[00:02:29] xdav80: at least until 29.09
[00:02:34] xdav80: [email protected]
[00:03:03] xdav80: jesus...
[00:08:55] xdav80: Well i still don't see anything.
[00:09:25] xdav80: Are you SURE you put correct email this time?
[00:09:36] xdav80: I must go soon
[00:10:34] xdav80: Hello?
[00:10:36] xdav80: :/
[00:13:10] xdav80: Are you there??
[00:17:26] xdav80: Looks like i got scammed for sure...
[00:17:27] xdav80: Damn
[00:27:16] xdav80: Well
[00:28:01] xdav80: That was my last 100euros. Are you happy man? no kidding,  now i won't even buy a fucking bread :/
[na removed you from his friendlist]
[00:28:18] xdav80: Yupremoved

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I will give you 70 Euro BTC for 100 Euro Paysafecard.
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Hi

I want to exchange one 100€ Paysafecard (well, currently 98€ heh)   for Bitcoins or 85-80€ on Skrill Account.

PM me if interested. I Can do Escrow
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