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Quote from: ndnh on October 18, 2015, 09:59:23 PM

Quote from: deadley on October 18, 2015, 02:08:13 PM

I don't think OP is framing wrong JameRD what is the benefit of OP for framing him, he said that he gave his skype to jameRD through pm and after some minutes he got request in Skype so it's clear JameRD added him in skype.

I dealt with op before and today too, so I know OP is genuine and do trade doesn't matter he is newbie.

Not exactly. the other possible scenario is, ThatDZGuy (as erikalui said) PMs JameRD, adds him on Skype. Next he creates another Skype account with his own name and talks with himself etc. or just edits the image, and post it as scam accusation.
That is, whether the person OP talked to do exists or is OP himself or is it JameRD?

But I do agree that it is extremely likely that JameRD did scam OP and I am of the opinion that he did.

Lol, I don't think this is the scene we know no scammer return anything even they caught. Op is just newbie we know there nothing even Op taking revenge from JameRD for something.

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Quote from: deadley on October 18, 2015, 02:08:13 PM

I don't think OP is framing wrong JameRD what is the benefit of OP for framing him, he said that he gave his skype to jameRD through pm and after some minutes he got request in Skype so it's clear JameRD added him in skype.

I dealt with op before and today too, so I know OP is genuine and do trade doesn't matter he is newbie.

Not exactly. the other possible scenario is, ThatDZGuy (as erikalui said) PMs JameRD, adds him on Skype. Next he creates another Skype account with his own name and talks with himself etc. or just edits the image, and post it as scam accusation.
That is, whether the person OP talked to do exists or is OP himself or is it JameRD?

But I do agree that it is extremely likely that JameRD did scam OP and I am of the opinion that he did.

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I don't think OP is framing wrong JameRD what is the benefit of OP for framing him, he said that he gave his skype to jameRD through pm and after some minutes he got request in Skype so it's clear JameRD added him in skype.

I dealt with op before and today too, so I know OP is genuine and do trade doesn't matter he is newbie.

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Question. Reply by PMing me.

To OP.
What is the Skype ID of the person who contacted you?

Top JameRD
What is your Skype ID?

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Yeah, the only way of proving it to get access to their Skypes. btw, why didn't you even consider escrow?

Note that JameRD does not use all lower case anywhere in his forum posts. So it could be that OP framed him, and used all lower case to make it such that members will not consider them to the same person.

Or JameRD intentionally changed his style so that it would appear different to others, which is quite probable.

tl;dr, I think JameRD scammed OP (imo a ~~70%~~ 80% probability). But it is also possible that it is a false accusation. Only possible way of proving it is getting a trusted third party to access the Skype accounts of both parties.

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Quote from: erikalui on October 18, 2015, 12:04:56 PM

This chat message makes it seem legit as the user claims to be Jamerd: http://prntscr.com/8sl5v8

An imposter needs to atleast get an idea that the OP has contacted jamerd on BCT and here jamerd himself admitted to being contacted by the OP. If the OP has another main account and he holds a grudge against jamerd because of which he is making this scam accusation against him by faking those chat messages which I highly doubt, this scam accusation is fake. I've seen QS and TC having imposters but not Jr. Members. It's unfortunate what happened with you though.

This leaves it to two options : 1) JameRD did scam 2) The skype conversation is fake , either photoshopped or made with a name seeming the same as Jame's. The second one can be verified if Jame gives his personal skype(can be verified by contacting the last member he dealt with) and OP gives the person's skype, the one who claims is jame. At any rate I am getting too biased on Jame, I will leave this to other members.

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Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 18, 2015, 11:26:01 AM

Quote from: erikalui on October 18, 2015, 11:21:34 AM

I doubt why would a Jr. Member have an imposter? And it's weird that the person sent him the skype address and at the same time he was contacted on skype with the same username.

It is shady at best, and as for the imposter question, people here try scamming for even $1 I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone actually exploited Jame's reputation . I too have encountered a situation where my own account got compromised(an alt of mine, newbie) and got away with 0.325 of my funds. @OP did Jame actually confirm that he was the one that was contacting you on skype?

This chat message makes it seem legit as the user claims to be Jamerd: http://prntscr.com/8sl5v8

An imposter needs to atleast get an idea that the OP has contacted jamerd on BCT and here jamerd himself admitted to being contacted by the OP. If the OP has another main account and he holds a grudge against jamerd because of which he is making this scam accusation against him by faking those chat messages which I highly doubt, this scam accusation is fake. I've seen QS and TC having imposters but not Jr. Members. It's unfortunate what happened with you though.

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Quote from: JameRD on October 18, 2015, 11:38:55 AM

Quote from: ThatDZGuy on October 18, 2015, 11:33:54 AM

Quote from: JameRD on October 18, 2015, 11:29:26 AM

Quote from: erikalui on October 18, 2015, 11:21:34 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 18, 2015, 09:10:09 AM

If this scam accusation is true this just proves my point of trust farming here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12569592 . And another thing, if you are a newbie to the forum you should've at least bothered to read the basic precautions against scamming(stickies) and that is always use an escrow however trusted a member may seem.
And lastly, do you actually have any evidence of payment and that the person who scammed you was indeed JameRD?

The same thing even I thought of. Why do DT members leave trust ratings for such small trades that can make members look trustworthy? This is clear misuse of the DT position.

I doubt why would a Jr. Member have an imposter? And it's weird that the person sent him the skype address and at the same time he was contacted on skype with the same username.

I understand your thinking. But maybe he's just a man without a job and is trying to go troll someone.

Nope, not trolling for shit.

Do not try to increase your post count with nonsense.

Ahh the irony.

pjsonowal

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OP doesnt has any proof that James scammed him.... Moreover u didnt provided the dealings link....

JameRD

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Quote from: ThatDZGuy on October 18, 2015, 11:33:54 AM

Quote from: JameRD on October 18, 2015, 11:29:26 AM

Quote from: erikalui on October 18, 2015, 11:21:34 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 18, 2015, 09:10:09 AM

If this scam accusation is true this just proves my point of trust farming here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12569592 . And another thing, if you are a newbie to the forum you should've at least bothered to read the basic precautions against scamming(stickies) and that is always use an escrow however trusted a member may seem.
And lastly, do you actually have any evidence of payment and that the person who scammed you was indeed JameRD?

The same thing even I thought of. Why do DT members leave trust ratings for such small trades that can make members look trustworthy? This is clear misuse of the DT position.

I doubt why would a Jr. Member have an imposter? And it's weird that the person sent him the skype address and at the same time he was contacted on skype with the same username.

I understand your thinking. But maybe he's just a man without a job and is trying to go troll someone.

Nope, not trolling for shit.

Do not try to increase your post count with nonsense.

ThatDZGuy

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Quote from: JameRD on October 18, 2015, 11:29:26 AM

Quote from: erikalui on October 18, 2015, 11:21:34 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 18, 2015, 09:10:09 AM

If this scam accusation is true this just proves my point of trust farming here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12569592 . And another thing, if you are a newbie to the forum you should've at least bothered to read the basic precautions against scamming(stickies) and that is always use an escrow however trusted a member may seem.
And lastly, do you actually have any evidence of payment and that the person who scammed you was indeed JameRD?

The same thing even I thought of. Why do DT members leave trust ratings for such small trades that can make members look trustworthy? This is clear misuse of the DT position.

I doubt why would a Jr. Member have an imposter? And it's weird that the person sent him the skype address and at the same time he was contacted on skype with the same username.

I understand your thinking. But maybe he's just a man without a job and is trying to go troll someone.

Nope, not trolling for shit.

JameRD

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Quote from: erikalui on October 18, 2015, 11:21:34 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 18, 2015, 09:10:09 AM

If this scam accusation is true this just proves my point of trust farming here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12569592 . And another thing, if you are a newbie to the forum you should've at least bothered to read the basic precautions against scamming(stickies) and that is always use an escrow however trusted a member may seem.
And lastly, do you actually have any evidence of payment and that the person who scammed you was indeed JameRD?

The same thing even I thought of. Why do DT members leave trust ratings for such small trades that can make members look trustworthy? This is clear misuse of the DT position.

I doubt why would a Jr. Member have an imposter? And it's weird that the person sent him the skype address and at the same time he was contacted on skype with the same username.

I understand your thinking. But maybe he's just a man without a job and is trying to go troll someone.

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Quote from: erikalui on October 18, 2015, 11:21:34 AM

I doubt why would a Jr. Member have an imposter? And it's weird that the person sent him the skype address and at the same time he was contacted on skype with the same username.

It is shady at best, and as for the imposter question, people here try scamming for even $1 I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone actually exploited Jame's reputation . I too have encountered a situation where my own account got compromised(an alt of mine, newbie) and got away with 0.325 of my funds. @OP did Jame actually confirm that he was the one that was contacting you on skype?

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Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 18, 2015, 09:10:09 AM

If this scam accusation is true this just proves my point of trust farming here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12569592 . And another thing, if you are a newbie to the forum you should've at least bothered to read the basic precautions against scamming(stickies) and that is always use an escrow however trusted a member may seem.
And lastly, do you actually have any evidence of payment and that the person who scammed you was indeed JameRD?

The same thing even I thought of. Why do DT members leave trust ratings for such small trades that can make members look trustworthy? This is clear misuse of the DT position.

I doubt why would a Jr. Member have an imposter? And it's weird that the person sent him the skype address and at the same time he was contacted on skype with the same username.

JameRD

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Quote from: ThatDZGuy on October 18, 2015, 11:17:08 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 18, 2015, 11:13:17 AM

Quote from: ThatDZGuy on October 18, 2015, 11:08:55 AM

Who else could have added my skype at that time lol?

Thats something you have to take care of.

Quote from: ThatDZGuy on October 18, 2015, 11:08:55 AM

Also you're saying that you got the message with my skype and didn't want to complete? What? Are you telling me you wanted the deal and then you didn't? Hmm, seems a bit weird.

Not at all, I sometimes too cancel a deal at the last minute if I have good reasons to do so. Please come up with better proofs than this, the address that you claim to be from JameRD has never been associated with Jame.

That was a rhetorical question, Holy shit.

Seriously here. I can not seem to know you cheated (or not) but I do not want to spend time with your false claims.

ThatDZGuy

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Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 18, 2015, 11:13:17 AM

Quote from: ThatDZGuy on October 18, 2015, 11:08:55 AM

Who else could have added my skype at that time lol?

Thats something you have to take care of.

Quote from: ThatDZGuy on October 18, 2015, 11:08:55 AM

Also you're saying that you got the message with my skype and didn't want to complete? What? Are you telling me you wanted the deal and then you didn't? Hmm, seems a bit weird.

Not at all, I sometimes too cancel a deal at the last minute if I have good reasons to do so. Please come up with better proofs than this, the address that you claim to be from JameRD has never been associated with Jame.

That was a rhetorical question, Holy shit. Also, Yeah, Creating new Bitcoin adress is now impossible lol.

JameRD

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Quote from: ThatDZGuy on October 18, 2015, 11:08:55 AM

Who else could have added my skype at that time lol? I didn't post it in puplic. Also you're saying that you got the message with my skype and didn't want to complete? What? Are you telling me you wanted the deal and then you didn't? Hmm, seems a bit weird.

Do not waste my time bro. I never add you on my skype. I have many transactions on the forum with larger amounts. I can see you up a topic exchange. Someone has to know your skype then impersonating me to trick you. Or this is a topic set up with the purpose only to lower my prestige.

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Quote from: ThatDZGuy on October 18, 2015, 11:08:55 AM

Who else could have added my skype at that time lol?

Thats something you have to take care of.

Quote from: ThatDZGuy on October 18, 2015, 11:08:55 AM

Also you're saying that you got the message with my skype and didn't want to complete? What? Are you telling me you wanted the deal and then you didn't? Hmm, seems a bit weird.

Not at all, I sometimes too cancel a deal at the last minute if I have good reasons to do so. Please come up with better proofs than this, the address that you claim to be from JameRD has never been associated with Jame.

ThatDZGuy

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Who else could have added my skype at that time lol? I didn't post it in puplic. Also you're saying that you got the message with my skype and didn't want to complete? What? Are you telling me you wanted the deal and then you didn't? Hmm, seems a bit weird.

JameRD

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Quote from: ThatDZGuy on October 18, 2015, 10:59:52 AM

Quote from: subSTRATA on October 18, 2015, 10:50:42 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 18, 2015, 10:43:09 AM

Quote from: subSTRATA on October 18, 2015, 10:38:03 AM

Quote from: JameRD on October 18, 2015, 10:29:29 AM

Hello. I dont know why ? I don't have any trade with you. Just sent you a pm with rates.

that doesnt explain how that address seems to have a transaction of .28 BTC going into it. seems to me there was an agreement for a trade and op sent you the money.

Just to make it sure, where exactly has Jame posted this addy? AFAIK any scammer could take his name , scam someone and Jame's reputation would come under doubt, at any rate the OP still hasn't provided enough proof of him being actually scammed. For all I know he could be a troll trying to mess with someone's reputation

that's pretty much what im thinking, theres no solid evidence for or against either side, i was just pointing it out. there is no way to link that the skype convo was between op and the accused, and there's no way to prove it wasnt either. this accusation is baseless until op provides info.

Yeah, i sent him a PM telling him to add me on skype after he said he can do the trade, will post the PM in a sec. I can' believe he actually replied here lol.

I received your message with skype. But I've never been more complete. Those who know your skype on bitcointalk ?

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Quote from: subSTRATA on October 18, 2015, 10:50:42 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 18, 2015, 10:43:09 AM

Quote from: subSTRATA on October 18, 2015, 10:38:03 AM

Quote from: JameRD on October 18, 2015, 10:29:29 AM

Hello. I dont know why ? I don't have any trade with you. Just sent you a pm with rates.

that doesnt explain how that address seems to have a transaction of .28 BTC going into it. seems to me there was an agreement for a trade and op sent you the money.

Just to make it sure, where exactly has Jame posted this addy? AFAIK any scammer could take his name , scam someone and Jame's reputation would come under doubt, at any rate the OP still hasn't provided enough proof of him being actually scammed. For all I know he could be a troll trying to mess with someone's reputation

that's pretty much what im thinking, theres no solid evidence for or against either side, i was just pointing it out. there is no way to link that the skype convo was between op and the accused, and there's no way to prove it wasnt either. this accusation is baseless until op provides info.

Yeah, i sent him a PM telling him to add me on skype after he said he can do the trade, will post the PM in a sec. I can' believe he actually replied here lol.

http://prntscr.com/8smkxg
http://prntscr.com/8sml5u

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Quote from: subSTRATA on October 18, 2015, 10:38:03 AM

Quote from: JameRD on October 18, 2015, 10:29:29 AM

Hello. I dont know why ? I don't have any trade with you. Just sent you a pm with rates.

that doesnt explain how that address seems to have a transaction of .28 BTC going into it. seems to me there was an agreement for a trade and op sent you the money.

I see. But i don't have any transaction with him on skype.

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Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 18, 2015, 10:43:09 AM

Quote from: subSTRATA on October 18, 2015, 10:38:03 AM

Quote from: JameRD on October 18, 2015, 10:29:29 AM

Hello. I dont know why ? I don't have any trade with you. Just sent you a pm with rates.

that doesnt explain how that address seems to have a transaction of .28 BTC going into it. seems to me there was an agreement for a trade and op sent you the money.

Just to make it sure, where exactly has Jame posted this addy? AFAIK any scammer could take his name , scam someone and Jame's reputation would come under doubt, at any rate the OP still hasn't provided enough proof of him being actually scammed. For all I know he could be a troll trying to mess with someone's reputation

that's pretty much what im thinking, theres no solid evidence for or against either side, i was just pointing it out. there is no way to link that the skype convo was between op and the accused, and there's no way to prove it wasnt either. this accusation is baseless until op provides info.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on October 18, 2015, 10:38:03 AM

Quote from: JameRD on October 18, 2015, 10:29:29 AM

Hello. I dont know why ? I don't have any trade with you. Just sent you a pm with rates.

that doesnt explain how that address seems to have a transaction of .28 BTC going into it. seems to me there was an agreement for a trade and op sent you the money.

Just to make it sure, where exactly has Jame posted this addy? AFAIK any scammer could take his name , scam someone and Jame's reputation would come under doubt, at any rate the OP still hasn't provided enough proof of him being actually scammed. For all I know he could be a troll trying to mess with someone's reputation

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Quote from: JameRD on October 18, 2015, 10:29:29 AM

Hello. I dont know why ? I don't have any trade with you. Just sent you a pm with rates.

that doesnt explain how that address seems to have a transaction of .28 BTC going into it. seems to me there was an agreement for a trade and op sent you the money.

JameRD

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Hello. I dont know why ? I don't have any trade with you. Just sent you a pm with rates.

mexxer-2

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If this scam accusation is true this just proves my point of trust farming here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12569592 . And another thing, if you are a newbie to the forum you should've at least bothered to read the basic precautions against scamming(stickies) and that is always use an escrow however trusted a member may seem.
And lastly, do you actually have any evidence of payment and that the person who scammed you was indeed JameRD?

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