Topic: Scammed for brand new $200 Google Play Gift card on Paxful (Read 163 times)
Just curious if you guys have ever read about this type of scam on Paxful being resolved in favor of the buyer before?? I can't find anything but perhaps you may have...looking for a little optimism is all...Also Google has a privacy policy on releasing any details on how,where or when a Google Play card has been redeemed. So that pretty much sums up why the vendor chose this method.
I guess this is the reason why LBC removed all gift card trades. It's simply too hard to judge whether or not the buyer or the seller is in the wrong, because it is difficult to be certain in whose possession the gift card was actually redeemed.
A lot of people see Paxful/LBC escrow as something that guarantees they won't get scammed, so they let off their guard. Freak incidents like these do happen. Accounts can be bought/sold so even reputation doesn't count for much.
I doubt this thread is gonig to do much apart from warn others of the same time of scam, because Paxful and bitcointalk are completely unrelated platforms. You could potentially contact google to see whether they are willing to give info as to who redeemed the card, and launch an investigation that way; but the chances of that is extremely slim.
A lot of people see Paxful/LBC escrow as something that guarantees they won't get scammed, so they let off their guard. Freak incidents like these do happen. Accounts can be bought/sold so even reputation doesn't count for much.
I doubt this thread is gonig to do much apart from warn others of the same time of scam, because Paxful and bitcointalk are completely unrelated platforms. You could potentially contact google to see whether they are willing to give info as to who redeemed the card, and launch an investigation that way; but the chances of that is extremely slim.
Sorry for your loss, but unless you can tie this paxful account to a Bitcointalk account, there really isn't a lot anyone here can actually do to help.
I hope that the the opportunity to vent your frustrations has made you feel slightly better tho... best of luck with the paxful dispute.
I hope that the the opportunity to vent your frustrations has made you feel slightly better tho... best of luck with the paxful dispute.
I'm not familiar w/privacy rules on btctalk but to start with I was blatantly scammed on Paxful by a seller named zhu440. So first & foremost avoid this seller @ all costs. On 10/9 I found a seller offering an even rate for btc in exchange for Google Play physical gift card...I purchased a $200 card at the Speedway gas station after making an atm withdrawal to make sure it was paid for w/cash. I've been stuck w/green dot cards in the past on local btc because I would purchase w/debit & the vendors only accepted gift cards paid for with cash..when I returned home I pulled up the listing for zhu440 who has +124/-0 reputation..I then scratched the code & took pics of the receipt, card front/back, & the cardboard packaging..I then asked the seller if he wanted images of all the above & seller just replied "upload card" twice w/in 30 sec then "faster" 30 sec later while I'm retrieving the pic files I just took..telling me to hurry was the 1st red flag but I brushed it off as I was just focused on finding the files...no more than 1 min later I found the pics & uploaded, marked paid, then the pathetic tactics started..1st line "
" 2nd line "WHY" 3rd line "THIS IS USED"...so I reply like nice try buddy but I just scratched that & walked a few miles in the rain & still have the receipt so release or I'll dispute...they reply "Please dont play games with me" "THIS IS USED"..I said show me proof its used, I just bought that card & then they just keep saying " THIS IS USED" THIS IS USED" & never upload any screenshot proving so regardless of the fact thats not proof since he has time to redeem then reenter to get that error message w/in the timeframe given....then they say "I believe what I saw in my eyes. This is indeed a second-hand card. I swear." "Please check your card as soon as possible"....I say you can't scam me w/escrow & how do I check it, I have no google play account... then they reply "I don't understand why you want to upload a used card." I said its brand new please just release my coin....they reply "@Moderator This person uploads a second-hand card Please handle it as soon as possible Thank you"
Keep in mind I'm panicking now because I realize whats taken place as it's happened to me on local btc in the past for physical cards.. the +124/-0 reputation of the scammer & the +10/-0 for myself didn't exactly ease my mind either...although I've been a member 3 months longer than the scam seller it's not reassuring..the only thing reassuring was escrow but after reading a couple threads on this technique it seems it's a lose/lose situation for myself as far as the dispute outcome goes. Leading me to create this thread.
Following him requesting a mod, I went on a tirade explaining he couldn't pull off this desperate attempt & to do the right thing stop wasting my time...then he replies "Don't leave, let the moderator enter the transaction investigation" I said I'm not going anywhere I'm waiting until my 3 hr timer on the left hand side of the screen expires to dispute as I just paid $200 for this card & wasn't going to donate it to them.. I said you obviously redeemed my card & the claim its "used"..I then uploaded the receipt as more documentation on my behalf then they reply " ARE YOU KIDDING ME" "The receipt can only be how the card is yours. It does not mean that no one has used him."...makes alot of sense right?? lol. I told scammer speak english & then explain in dummy terms to them what it is they're doing so he knows im completely onto his pathetic attempt to scam me..he runs out of lines & continues repeating "THIS IS USED" then "You still don't understand? You uploaded a used card."
As im reporting the the issue below given the fact I still cant dispute for 2 1/2 hrs my report automatically closes out & the chat reads the scammer initated dispute. Go f#$%ing figure...I took multiple images upon request from mod & the entire time while filing dispute making my case to Paxful mod, said scammer continues pasting go-to line "You still don't understand? You uploaded a used card."saying repeatedly "This is not the reason you upload a used card. OK?"...I suppose idiot thought he could convince me I actually sent a used card despite all my evidence or he ran out of lines....needless to say its been 5 days now. Mod had me update & retake images of the card to make sure it was w/in the chat etc etc.....I can only expect the worse from what I've read on here but I wanted to go on record to provide the truth of the situation at hand so it can possibly be resolved in my favor & to warn poeple of this individual & the tactics being used. It seems this is very common unfortunately..extremely unfortunate given I thought I was protected on Paxful from this kind of stuff & the fact I'd been using seller reputation to determine the legitimacy of the seller..I've had 2 successful low volume trades for Amazon ecards in exchange for BTC since this dispute started while the seller has been offline until 7 hrs ago to check & see if their scam was successful... I dread the outcome & cringe at the thought of this lowlife being awarded my $200 that I'm in absolutely no financial to lose. I've had a string of bad luck this yr starting w/my mom being diagnosed w/ stage 4 melanoma cancer & my Youtube channel w/ 155k subscribers being demonetized in the very same day. This would be a rotten cherry on to top it off.
" 2nd line "WHY" 3rd line "THIS IS USED"...so I reply like nice try buddy but I just scratched that & walked a few miles in the rain & still have the receipt so release or I'll dispute...they reply "Please dont play games with me" "THIS IS USED"..I said show me proof its used, I just bought that card & then they just keep saying " THIS IS USED" THIS IS USED" & never upload any screenshot proving so regardless of the fact thats not proof since he has time to redeem then reenter to get that error message w/in the timeframe given....then they say "I believe what I saw in my eyes. This is indeed a second-hand card. I swear." "Please check your card as soon as possible"....I say you can't scam me w/escrow & how do I check it, I have no google play account... then they reply "I don't understand why you want to upload a used card." I said its brand new please just release my coin....they reply "@Moderator This person uploads a second-hand card Please handle it as soon as possible Thank you" Keep in mind I'm panicking now because I realize whats taken place as it's happened to me on local btc in the past for physical cards.. the +124/-0 reputation of the scammer & the +10/-0 for myself didn't exactly ease my mind either...although I've been a member 3 months longer than the scam seller it's not reassuring..the only thing reassuring was escrow but after reading a couple threads on this technique it seems it's a lose/lose situation for myself as far as the dispute outcome goes. Leading me to create this thread.
Following him requesting a mod, I went on a tirade explaining he couldn't pull off this desperate attempt & to do the right thing stop wasting my time...then he replies "Don't leave, let the moderator enter the transaction investigation" I said I'm not going anywhere I'm waiting until my 3 hr timer on the left hand side of the screen expires to dispute as I just paid $200 for this card & wasn't going to donate it to them.. I said you obviously redeemed my card & the claim its "used"..I then uploaded the receipt as more documentation on my behalf then they reply " ARE YOU KIDDING ME" "The receipt can only be how the card is yours. It does not mean that no one has used him."...makes alot of sense right?? lol. I told scammer speak english & then explain in dummy terms to them what it is they're doing so he knows im completely onto his pathetic attempt to scam me..he runs out of lines & continues repeating "THIS IS USED" then "You still don't understand? You uploaded a used card."
As im reporting the the issue below given the fact I still cant dispute for 2 1/2 hrs my report automatically closes out & the chat reads the scammer initated dispute. Go f#$%ing figure...I took multiple images upon request from mod & the entire time while filing dispute making my case to Paxful mod, said scammer continues pasting go-to line "You still don't understand? You uploaded a used card."saying repeatedly "This is not the reason you upload a used card. OK?"...I suppose idiot thought he could convince me I actually sent a used card despite all my evidence or he ran out of lines....needless to say its been 5 days now. Mod had me update & retake images of the card to make sure it was w/in the chat etc etc.....I can only expect the worse from what I've read on here but I wanted to go on record to provide the truth of the situation at hand so it can possibly be resolved in my favor & to warn poeple of this individual & the tactics being used. It seems this is very common unfortunately..extremely unfortunate given I thought I was protected on Paxful from this kind of stuff & the fact I'd been using seller reputation to determine the legitimacy of the seller..I've had 2 successful low volume trades for Amazon ecards in exchange for BTC since this dispute started while the seller has been offline until 7 hrs ago to check & see if their scam was successful... I dread the outcome & cringe at the thought of this lowlife being awarded my $200 that I'm in absolutely no financial to lose. I've had a string of bad luck this yr starting w/my mom being diagnosed w/ stage 4 melanoma cancer & my Youtube channel w/ 155k subscribers being demonetized in the very same day. This would be a rotten cherry on to top it off.
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