Topic: Scammer and blackmailer - loljosh (Calling trusted members) (Read 5882 times)

Quote from: tocoolforschool on May 03, 2014, 12:56:31 PM

I think the biggest problem is/was communication.

For me, working as an IT specialist, it is 100% clear, that if seomeone is going to create sth for just 0.2 BTC (85$ or 63€), that he rly CANT provide a first class service support. Thats just not possible.
Even for a free worker, like the BCCtalkcoin programmer, it is just to less money.

But its wrong of him, asking for more money now after he did the job.

For me, the Windows Wallet is working stable.
Same for the Linux wallet, its running since more than 2 full days now without any crash.

Also my linux wallet has more than 27 Connections, sometimes it goes up to more than 40 Connections. So i think, the programmer did a good work by the time, because as i said, its running very stable.

You 2 guys should go to skype/teamspeak or whatever, trying to talk in person.

Some ppl mentioned it before: speaking a foreign language, can be hard for some ppl. Even if you think you speak perfect english, the other person might not speak perfect english, is asking for sth but for real, the tryed to say sth totally different.

Maybe sth like this happend for you two guys also. I would talk about it instead of typeing unfriendly stuff

I never asked him to pay me more BTC. Here is the screenshot in which he is offering me more BTC:

I see, you didnt but he offered it.
Rly seems like u have a communication problem!!
Dunno if its from the foreign language or why, but:

Shouldnt now be everything ok again?
U got your 0.2 BTC and BCCdev got a working coin.

There are sometimes wrong virus messages, especially on virustotal.com
If you create sth, and check it vs an immaginarry unlimited amount of different virus scanners, one of them will say its a virus for 100%.

It would have been bad, if loljosh would have compiled the wallet with lets say 30% if all virustotal.com scanners, but he didnt.

I got paid 0.2 BTC as we decided. But what about the later payment that he promised about after providing him update. You can clearly see on the thread that the new update is live and working perfect.

Well it's up to you two and not rly my business,but:

If the part of the 0.2BTC wasnt the coin being a PoS after x days, then i think loljosh should get a little bonus from BCCdev.

But as a reminder for everyone: Don't setup any "contracts" without haveing an escrow.

loljosh is again trying to confuse everyone by posting just 1 screenshot and trying to get it out of context. Too bad everyone here is not dumb!
Please check: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6516862

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Quote from: SomeRelax on May 03, 2014, 12:07:57 PM

Quote from: tocoolforschool on May 03, 2014, 12:04:33 PM

lol so many cheap scumbags on these forums

who you talking about?

I have to say the same, surprisingly. They both seemed to want to 'cheat' the other of something.

You guys just need to solve it. Either fixing or via a refund.

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Quote from: SomeRelax on May 03, 2014, 12:07:57 PM

Quote from: tocoolforschool on May 03, 2014, 12:04:33 PM

lol so many cheap scumbags on these forums

who you talking about?

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Quote from: loljosh on May 03, 2014, 11:53:04 AM

Quote from: SomeRelax on May 03, 2014, 11:45:57 AM

so, everything is ok between you two?
is the problem solved or you want to accusing each other again?
i've invested some btc on this coin
light me up what is your plan

I want him to apologize to this community and refund all the btc to investors.

you can ask apologize after refund, no before. because this money isn't your.

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Quote from: tocoolforschool on May 03, 2014, 12:04:33 PM

lol so many cheap scumbags on these forums

who you talking about?

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lol so many cheap scumbags on these forums

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Quote from: SomeRelax on May 03, 2014, 11:45:57 AM

so, everything is ok between you two?
is the problem solved or you want to accusing each other again?
i've invested some btc on this coin
light me up what is your plan

I want him to apologize to this community and refund all the btc to investors.

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so, everything is ok between you two?
is the problem solved or you want to accusing each other again?
i've invested some btc on this coin
light me up what is your plan

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Quote from: loljosh on May 03, 2014, 09:11:17 AM

Quote from: testbug on May 03, 2014, 09:04:10 AM

Quote from: testbug on May 03, 2014, 09:04:10 AM

I think the biggest problem is/was communication.

For me, working as an IT specialist, it is 100% clear, that if seomeone is going to create sth for just 0.2 BTC (85$ or 63€), that he rly CANT provide a first class service support. Thats just not possible.
Even for a free worker, like the BCCtalkcoin programmer, it is just to less money.

But its wrong of him, asking for more money now after he did the job.

For me, the Windows Wallet is working stable.
Same for the Linux wallet, its running since more than 2 full days now without any crash.

Also my linux wallet has more than 27 Connections, sometimes it goes up to more than 40 Connections. So i think, the programmer did a good work by the time, because as i said, its running very stable.

You 2 guys should go to skype/teamspeak or whatever, trying to talk in person.

Some ppl mentioned it before: speaking a foreign language, can be hard for some ppl. Even if you think you speak perfect english, the other person might not speak perfect english, is asking for sth but for real, the tryed to say sth totally different.

Maybe sth like this happend for you two guys also. I would talk about it instead of typeing unfriendly stuff

I never asked him to pay me more BTC. Here is the screenshot in which he is offering me more BTC:

I see, you didnt but he offered it.
Rly seems like u have a communication problem!!
Dunno if its from the foreign language or why, but:

Shouldnt now be everything ok again?
U got your 0.2 BTC and BCCdev got a working coin.

There are sometimes wrong virus messages, especially on virustotal.com
If you create sth, and check it vs an immaginarry unlimited amount of different virus scanners, one of them will say its a virus for 100%.

It would have been bad, if loljosh would have compiled the wallet with lets say 30% if all virustotal.com scanners, but he didnt.

I got paid 0.2 BTC as we decided. But what about the later payment that he promised about after providing him update. You can clearly see on the thread that the new update is live and working perfect.

Well it's up to you two and not rly my business,but:

If the part of the 0.2BTC wasnt the coin being a PoS after x days, then i think loljosh should get a little bonus from BCCdev.

But as a reminder for everyone: Don't setup any "contracts" without haveing an escrow.

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I think the biggest problem is/was communication.

For me, working as an IT specialist, it is 100% clear, that if seomeone is going to create sth for just 0.2 BTC (85$ or 63€), that he rly CANT provide a first class service support. Thats just not possible.
Even for a free worker, like the BCCtalkcoin programmer, it is just to less money.

But its wrong of him, asking for more money now after he did the job.

For me, the Windows Wallet is working stable.
Same for the Linux wallet, its running since more than 2 full days now without any crash.

Also my linux wallet has more than 27 Connections, sometimes it goes up to more than 40 Connections. So i think, the programmer did a good work by the time, because as i said, its running very stable.

You 2 guys should go to skype/teamspeak or whatever, trying to talk in person.

Some ppl mentioned it before: speaking a foreign language, can be hard for some ppl. Even if you think you speak perfect english, the other person might not speak perfect english, is asking for sth but for real, the tryed to say sth totally different.

Maybe sth like this happend for you two guys also. I would talk about it instead of typeing unfriendly stuff

I never asked him to pay me more BTC. Here is the screenshot in which he is offering me more BTC:

I see, you didnt but he offered it.
Rly seems like u have a communication problem!!
Dunno if its from the foreign language or why, but:

Shouldnt now be everything ok again?
U got your 0.2 BTC and BCCdev got a working coin.

There are sometimes wrong virus messages, especially on virustotal.com
If you create sth, and check it vs an immaginarry unlimited amount of different virus scanners, one of them will say its a virus for 100%.

It would have been bad, if loljosh would have compiled the wallet with lets say 30% if all virustotal.com scanners, but he didnt.

I got paid 0.2 BTC as we decided. But what about the later payment that he promised about after providing him update. You can clearly see on the thread that the new update is live and working perfect.

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I think the biggest problem is/was communication.

For me, working as an IT specialist, it is 100% clear, that if seomeone is going to create sth for just 0.2 BTC (85$ or 63€), that he rly CANT provide a first class service support. Thats just not possible.
Even for a free worker, like the BCCtalkcoin programmer, it is just to less money.

But its wrong of him, asking for more money now after he did the job.

For me, the Windows Wallet is working stable.
Same for the Linux wallet, its running since more than 2 full days now without any crash.

Also my linux wallet has more than 27 Connections, sometimes it goes up to more than 40 Connections. So i think, the programmer did a good work by the time, because as i said, its running very stable.

You 2 guys should go to skype/teamspeak or whatever, trying to talk in person.

Some ppl mentioned it before: speaking a foreign language, can be hard for some ppl. Even if you think you speak perfect english, the other person might not speak perfect english, is asking for sth but for real, the tryed to say sth totally different.

Maybe sth like this happend for you two guys also. I would talk about it instead of typeing unfriendly stuff

I never asked him to pay me more BTC. Here is the screenshot in which he is offering me more BTC:

I see, you didnt but he offered it.
Rly seems like u have a communication problem!!
Dunno if its from the foreign language or why, but:

Shouldnt now be everything ok again?
U got your 0.2 BTC and BCCdev got a working coin.

There are sometimes wrong virus messages, especially on virustotal.com
If you create sth, and check it vs an immaginarry unlimited amount of different virus scanners, one of them will say its a virus for 100%.

It would have been bad, if loljosh would have compiled the wallet with lets say 30% if all virustotal.com scanners, but he didnt.

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Quote from: dzarmush on May 02, 2014, 10:19:28 PM

I think the biggest problem is/was communication.

For me, working as an IT specialist, it is 100% clear, that if seomeone is going to create sth for just 0.2 BTC (85$ or 63€), that he rly CANT provide a first class service support. Thats just not possible.
Even for a free worker, like the BCCtalkcoin programmer, it is just to less money.

But its wrong of him, asking for more money now after he did the job.

For me, the Windows Wallet is working stable.
Same for the Linux wallet, its running since more than 2 full days now without any crash.

Also my linux wallet has more than 27 Connections, sometimes it goes up to more than 40 Connections. So i think, the programmer did a good work by the time, because as i said, its running very stable.

You 2 guys should go to skype/teamspeak or whatever, trying to talk in person.

Some ppl mentioned it before: speaking a foreign language, can be hard for some ppl. Even if you think you speak perfect english, the other person might not speak perfect english, is asking for sth but for real, the tryed to say sth totally different.

Maybe sth like this happend for you two guys also. I would talk about it instead of typeing unfriendly stuff

I never asked him to pay me more BTC. Here is the screenshot in which he is offering me more BTC:

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I think the biggest problem is/was communication.

For me, working as an IT specialist, it is 100% clear, that if seomeone is going to create sth for just 0.2 BTC (85$ or 63€), that he rly CANT provide a first class service support. Thats just not possible.
Even for a free worker, like the BCCtalkcoin programmer, it is just to less money.

But its wrong of him, asking for more money now after he did the job.

For me, the Windows Wallet is working stable.
Same for the Linux wallet, its running since more than 2 full days now without any crash.

Also my linux wallet has more than 27 Connections, sometimes it goes up to more than 40 Connections. So i think, the programmer did a good work by the time, because as i said, its running very stable.

You 2 guys should go to skype/teamspeak or whatever, trying to talk in person.

Some ppl mentioned it before: speaking a foreign language, can be hard for some ppl. Even if you think you speak perfect english, the other person might not speak perfect english, is asking for sth but for real, the tryed to say sth totally different.

Maybe sth like this happend for you two guys also. I would talk about it instead of typeing unfriendly stuff

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I just lost time and money because of your stupidity (I mean both of you) and yet I'm not asking for refund and not calling you SCAMMERS so please stop the bitching and work for your money...again, both of you ... Angry

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Quote from: BCCdev on May 02, 2014, 10:04:00 PM

^ Agreed!

And loljosh has absolutely no proof that we are scamming anyone! Then why is he trying to destroy the image of the coin by posting its a scam? Any logical reason? NO!

Yes. That's what confused me. If he's not happy about your way of doing business he needs to take a deep breath and tell about it, instead of trying to convince people that you'll scam everybody and dump all coins.

Yes that is what is called threatening and blackmailing!

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Quote from: BCCdev on May 02, 2014, 10:04:00 PM

^ Agreed!

And loljosh has absolutely no proof that we are scamming anyone! Then why is he trying to destroy the image of the coin by posting its a scam? Any logical reason? NO!

Yes. That's what confused me. If he's not happy about your way of doing business he needs to take a deep breath and tell about it, instead of trying to convince people that you'll scam everybody and dump all coins.

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^ Agreed!

And loljosh has absolutely no proof that we are scamming anyone! Then why is he trying to destroy the image of the coin by posting its a scam? Any logical reason? NO!

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I've read all of it over and over again and finally understood what happaned! Fuck, loljosh you really have to put your minds together before posting anything.

First of all let me take all my occusations (except non-woring wallet) back, coz I wrote them based on false info. So I'm not saying you're a scammer and a blackmailer anymore. Ok?

Second. It's an employer-employee issue and you should have talked about them from that angle. Your relationship with BCCdev says nothing about the whole idea, but you're started from "stop mining, it's a scam!!!!". So, basically there were some misuderstandings between an employer and freelancer. It happens a lot. You showed yourseld an aweful freelancer. You agreed to do a lot of job for a very small price and delievered broken software. All issues started because of that. BCCdev wanted more work you agreed to and was ready to pay you extra but you as many other lazy freelancer started acting weird. BCCdev also started acting weird and asking his money back. And then you started posting lots and lots of bullshit instead of explianing in a few clear words what has happened. Anyway you acted very stupid and posted some accusations that have nothing to do with the reality. So I'm blaming you for all this bullshit.

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Quote from: BCCdev on May 02, 2014, 09:29:40 PM

Quote from: haggis on May 02, 2014, 09:28:13 PM

You expect a complex software with zero(!!) bugs for .2 Bitcoin? Shame on you!
Even big software companies can reach that goal.

Did his code have anywhere close to zero bugs? Huh

And the price was agreed upon mutually; cribbing about it after making the deal just proves the point that he is a scammer!

It just proves none of you is a professional in any way.

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Quote from: haggis on May 02, 2014, 09:28:13 PM

You expect a complex software with zero(!!) bugs for .2 Bitcoin? Shame on you!
Even big software companies can reach that goal.

Did his code have anywhere close to zero bugs? Huh

And the price was agreed upon mutually; cribbing about it after making the deal just proves the point that he is a scammer!

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Quote from: tins on May 02, 2014, 09:26:11 PM

Quote from: BCCdev on May 02, 2014, 09:23:00 PM

You

You seriously think it is okay to have paid someone roughly $90 for probably over 50 hours of work and then ask the person for the money back?

Did we put a gun to his head to do it? He happily agreed to the price! Maybe it was his intention from day 1 to do part of the work for the price! That's even more sad!

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You expect a complex software with zero(!!) bugs for .2 Bitcoin? Shame on you!
Even big software companies can't reach that goal.

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Quote from: BCCdev on May 02, 2014, 09:23:00 PM

You

You seriously think it is okay to have paid someone roughly $90 for probably over 50 hours of work and then ask the person for the money back?

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Quote from: loljosh on May 02, 2014, 08:59:31 PM

Quote from: dzarmush on May 02, 2014, 08:55:11 PM

What's wrong with you? Forgot your own words? Let me remind you: "Guys this coin is a scam... I request the owner to refund the IPO money...
...he didn't pay me my fee for changing rewards and making it pure PoS after some time."

Why the hell he should have been paid you fee? Are you out of your mind? You got paid for the job, that's it, good bye.

I think you missed it:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6515943

Again think before you speak. You are just supporting a scam

Maybe you can't read it!

"You shouldn't have said you will provide 24x7 support/node etc in low amount in first place and kept your TOS transparent."

And as for why you should not be paid you greedy prick:

You had to deliver a "working" coin. Do you know the meaning of "working"?

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Quote from: tins on May 02, 2014, 09:05:45 PM

After reading all those PM's I think Loljosh deserved to be paid 100 times what he got for having to deal with all that.

Loljosh more than did what he agreed to...and it was a pretty damn cheap fee.

+1 I strongly agree.

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After reading all those PM's I think Loljosh deserved to be paid 100 times what he got for having to deal with all that.

Loljosh more than did what he agreed to...and it was a pretty damn cheap fee.

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Quote from: dzarmush on May 02, 2014, 08:55:11 PM

What's wrong with you? Forgot your own words? Let me remind you: "Guys this coin is a scam... I request the owner to refund the IPO money...
...he didn't pay me my fee for changing rewards and making it pure PoS after some time."

Why the hell he should have been paid you fee? Are you out of your mind? You got paid for the job, that's it, good bye.

I think you missed it:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6515943

Again think before you speak. You are just supporting a scam

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Quote from: loljosh on May 02, 2014, 08:51:32 PM

Quote from: dzarmush on May 02, 2014, 08:42:56 PM

Um, let me get this straight.

1. Loljosh agreed to create a coin for 0.2 Btc.
2. He delievered and got got paid.
3. Now he's bitching about IPO, because "he don't know there will be an IPO".

Nobody gives a slightest fuck about what you were thinking. You were hired for the the job and got paid. Now fuck off.

Some other asshole says that he's ready to back Loljosh up, but he says absolutely different things. Is there anybody here is ready to believe that BCCdev would start such mess for taking back 0.2 BTC? What a nonsence.

Quote from: BCCdev on May 02, 2014, 07:48:37 PM

Ask polo about it! I dont lie like you greedy scammer! Send them an email and see what they answer.........ask them why it was frozen so many times even after the update? You will know the reality of your dev skills!

And I had donated you the 0.2 btc but now since you threaten me again and want to extort money out of me, I have changed my mind. You have 24 hours to issue a refund to "1ERoKXXLVT2pzd73TXfBTUrBwWbZgqYpVo". If I don't get the refund I'm going to post all the facts in the forum and let them decide what is right!

Think before you speak.

What's wrong with you? Forgot your own words? Let me remind you: "Guys this coin is a scam... I request the owner to refund the IPO money...
...he didn't pay me my fee for changing rewards and making it pure PoS after some time."

Why the hell he should have been paid you fee? Are you out of your mind? You got paid for the job, that's it, good bye.

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Quote from: dzarmush on May 02, 2014, 08:42:56 PM

Um, let me get this straight.

1. Loljosh agreed to create a coin for 0.2 Btc.
2. He delievered and got got paid.
3. Now he's bitching about IPO, because "he don't know there will be an IPO".

Nobody gives a slightest fuck about what you were thinking. You were hired for the the job and got paid. Now fuck off.

Some other asshole says that he's ready to back Loljosh up, but he says absolutely different things. Is there anybody here is ready to believe that BCCdev would start such mess for taking back 0.2 BTC? What a nonsence.

Quote from: BCCdev on May 02, 2014, 07:48:37 PM

Ask polo about it! I dont lie like you greedy scammer! Send them an email and see what they answer.........ask them why it was frozen so many times even after the update? You will know the reality of your dev skills!

And I had donated you the 0.2 btc but now since you threaten me again and want to extort money out of me, I have changed my mind. You have 24 hours to issue a refund to "1ERoKXXLVT2pzd73TXfBTUrBwWbZgqYpVo". If I don't get the refund I'm going to post all the facts in the forum and let them decide what is right!

Think before you speak.

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Um, let me get this straight.

1. Loljosh agreed to create a coin for 0.2 Btc.
2. He delievered and got paid.
3. Now he's bitching about IPO, because "he don't know there will be an IPO".

Nobody gives a slightest fuck about what you were thinking. You were hired for the the job and got paid. Now fuck off.

Some other asshole says that he's ready to back Loljosh up, but he says absolutely different things. Is there anybody here is ready to believe that BCCdev would start such mess for taking back 0.2 BTC? What a nonsence.

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Bitcoin to the moon!

Just finish this already. We've all got more important things to do than blame each other.

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The saddest thing of the whole story:

One guy offered .2 BTC for a whole state of the art coin. Another one accepts this.
This makes me so sad in many different ways Cry

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★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!

Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:23:22 PM

if you trust everyone blind you will loose everthing.
if you don't trust anyone you will change nothing.
but if you trust everyone with caution, you will get rich in this forum.

wow, you've nailed it on the head there, so true.

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All the screenshots prove that BCC dev is not a good guy. Josh never make coins for that cheap for anyone even if he is making coins for the sake of community. This forum is full of greedy people.

P.S: The coin is working here even the wallet is not getting crashed.

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@loljosh stop trying to confuse everyone by posting single PMs which don't give the entire picture.

First of all, we said we will pay extra after getting fedop of you not providing support (which you promised)

Secondly, it was if there were no issues with your update!

Thirdly you were asking for more money till today before we told you we are posting this!

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quote author=escrow.ms link=topic=593562.msg6515873#msg6515873 date=1399073915]

Quote from: escrow.ms on May 02, 2014, 07:38:35 PM

Well I'm confused.

@BCCdev (Oh you are not even dev) How much you have paid to josh till now and how much he's asking now?

Paid 0.2 BTC for a working coin. Don't know how much he wants more, just says pay me or ill post on your threads.

A question to you though:

Suppose you were the escrow in this transaction.
What would you do if loljosh failed to give a working coin without any issues and refused to fix it? Would you issue a refund? If yes, he is not refunding (actually asking for more money) and that makes him a clear scammer!

Well It's you two's fault.

@BCCdev you need to understand that, You just paid him 0.2 BTC so he can't provide you Instant support and you didn't needed to abuse him.

@loljosh, You shouldn't have said you will provide 24x7 support/node etc in low amount in first place and kept your TOS transparent.
If people are getting issues there must be some problem with source and did BCCdev said he will give you fees for fixing problems?

Alot PM's are missing btw like
1. You claimed loljosh knew about IPO, but he's saying he didn't knew.
2. PM from loljosh saying he will provide support etc. (Currently you have quoted your pm in screenshot)
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Yes we know abusing anybody is not good but we had to call him a scammer and an idiot after like 10 days of harassing by him.

And as for the 0.2 BTC price, loljosh agreed to it and it was totally clear about the Linux wallet, nodes, 24x7 support etc.

Also for the missing PMs we have given all relevant details but can send you the account password for you to check all the PMs.

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Well I'm confused.

@BCCdev (Oh you are not even dev) How much you have paid to josh till now and how much he's asking now?

Well It's you two's fault.

@BCCdev you need to understand that, You just paid him 0.2 BTC so he can't provide you Instant support and you didn't needed to abuse him.

@loljosh, You shouldn't have said you will provide 24x7 support/node etc in low amount in first place and kept your TOS transparent.
If people are getting issues there must be some problem with source and did BCCdev said he will give you fees for fixing problems?

Alot PM's are missing btw.

Paid 0.2 BTC for a working coin. Don't know how much he wants more, just says pay me or ill post on your threads.

A question to you though:

Suppose you were the escrow in this transaction.
What would you do if loljosh failed to give a working coin without any issues and refused to fix it? Would you issue a refund? If yes, he is not refunding (actually asking for more money) and that makes him a clear scammer!

I never asked him to pay me more BTC. Here is the screenshot in which he is offering me to pay more BTC:

You can get the source checked by any developer of this community that the coin is working perfectly.

escrow.ms

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Well I'm confused.

@BCCdev (Oh you are not even dev) How much you have paid to josh till now and how much he's asking now?

Paid 0.2 BTC for a working coin. Don't know how much he wants more, just says pay me or ill post on your threads.

A question to you though:

Suppose you were the escrow in this transaction.
What would you do if loljosh failed to give a working coin without any issues and refused to fix it? Would you issue a refund? If yes, he is not refunding (actually asking for more money) and that makes him a clear scammer!

Well It's you two's fault.

@BCCdev you need to understand that, You just paid him 0.2 BTC so he can't provide you Instant support and you didn't needed to abuse him.

@loljosh, You shouldn't have said you will provide 24x7 support/node etc in low amount in first place and kept your TOS transparent.
If people are getting issues there must be some problem with source and did BCCdev said he will give you fees for fixing problems?

Alot PM's are missing btw like
1. You claimed loljosh knew about IPO, but he's saying he didn't knew.
2. PM from loljosh saying he will provide support etc. (Currently you have quoted your pm in screenshot)

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Well I'm confused.

@BCCdev (Oh you are not even dev) How much you have paid to josh till now and how much he's asking now?

Paid 0.2 BTC for a working coin. Don't know how much he wants more, just says pay me or ill post on your threads.

A question to you though:

Suppose you were the escrow in this transaction.
What would you do if loljosh failed to give a working coin without any issues and refused to fix it? Would you issue a refund? If yes, he is not refunding (actually asking for more money) and that makes him a clear scammer!

If the coin wasn't working, any exchange wouldn't accept it. You have already earned a lot of profit by selling the coins. You lied about the picture being photoshoped and now trying to escape.

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Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:53:56 PM

Well I'm confused.

@BCCdev (Oh you are not even dev) How much you have paid to josh till now and how much he's asking now?

Paid 0.2 BTC for a working coin. Don't know how much he wants more, just says pay me or ill post on your threads.

A question to you though:

Suppose you were the escrow in this transaction.
What would you do if loljosh failed to give a working coin without any issues and refused to fix it? Would you issue a refund? If yes, he is not refunding (actually asking for more money) and that makes him a clear scammer!

escrow.ms

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Well I'm confused.

@BCCdev (Oh you are not even dev) How much you have paid to josh till now and how much he's asking now?

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Quote from: acs267 on May 02, 2014, 06:50:48 PM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:53:56 PM

thanks @evilish
oh god, my eyes are burning

I know right? I barely read most of it because of the small text.

I don't see the point for this topic.
It's like a 14 year old pupil goes to the teacher because the other pupil didn't make his homework right for the lolly he gave him...

yeah, me too
maybe i missed something but there wasn't anything in it to bring to community
dammit, you two could just handle it by pm

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Quote from: acs267 on May 02, 2014, 06:50:48 PM

Quote from: acs267 on May 02, 2014, 06:50:48 PM

thanks @evilish
oh god, my eyes are burning

I know right? I barely read most of it because of the small text.

I don't see the point for this topic.
It's like a 14 year old pupil goes to the teacher because the other pupil didn't make his homework right for the lolly he gave him...

I have to agree. Not to mention, trying to take credit for somebody's development of a coin? And then say HE fixed the problems, even though he didn't?

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thanks @evilish
oh god, my eyes are burning

I know right? I barely read most of it because of the small text.

I don't see the point for this topic.
It's like a 14 year old pupil goes to the teacher because the other pupil didn't make his homework right for the lolly he gave him...

acs267

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Quote from: BCCdev on May 02, 2014, 06:28:47 PM

thanks @evilish
oh god, my eyes are burning

I know right? I barely read most of it because of the small text.

BCCdev

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You tried to get it out of context!

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http://i.imgur.com/Mu2Rf9R.png

The picture was not photoshoped. You can clearly see that in Evilish's screen

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thanks @evilish
oh god, my eyes are burning

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Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:27:08 PM

Quote from: BCCdev on May 02, 2014, 06:25:18 PM

We have finished our teamviewer meeting. Evilish will post the screenshots soon.

how can in your messages stand something else?

He tried to get it out of context. Evilish will post everything soon.

guys you only have a communication problem.
if you are talking in a foreign language, there are so many differences in the way you say it, and also in culture.
Just be a little more kind, then there is no problem...

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Bitcoin to the moon!

Sorry was busy in some work. Took some screenshots.

Now it's up to the community to decide.

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Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:23:22 PM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:15:34 PM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:10:25 PM

so exiting, what will happen now? ;-)

yeah, it's exciting
but somehow i like this coin
and this will kill it

i don't think so. if the devs are honest, they can proof it, and the coin only gets attention. that is not bad ;-)

but what if he doesn't honest?
then boom, i will fucked up Cheesy

most people are honest. but of course you have to be a little careful.

if you trust everyone blind you will loose everthing.
if you don't trust anyone you will change nothing.
but if you trust everyone with caution, you will get rich in this forum.

yeah, agree
i didn't invest much in BCC
but as i said, somehow i like it and like to see its grow and progress

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Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:27:08 PM

Quote from: BCCdev on May 02, 2014, 06:25:18 PM

We have finished our teamviewer meeting. Evilish will post the screenshots soon.

how can in your messages stand something else?

He tried to get it out of context. Evilish will post everything soon.

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Quote from: BCCdev on May 02, 2014, 06:25:18 PM

We have finished our teamviewer meeting. Evilish will post the screenshots soon.

how can in your messages stand something else?

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Quote from: MsCollec on May 02, 2014, 06:21:48 PM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:15:34 PM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:10:25 PM

so exiting, what will happen now? ;-)

yeah, it's exciting
but somehow i like this coin
and this will kill it

i don't think so. if the devs are honest, they can proof it, and the coin only gets attention. that is not bad ;-)

but what if he doesn't honest?
then boom, i will fucked up Cheesy

It doesn't matter. People will lose interest in this coin anyways due to the way the dev is handling the situation.

easy said...
accusing is easy. proofing the opposite not...

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We have finished our teamviewer meeting. Evilish will post the screenshots soon.

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Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:15:34 PM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:10:25 PM

so exiting, what will happen now? ;-)

yeah, it's exciting
but somehow i like this coin
and this will kill it

i don't think so. if the devs are honest, they can proof it, and the coin only gets attention. that is not bad ;-)

but what if he doesn't honest?
then boom, i will fucked up Cheesy

most people are honest. but of course you have to be a little careful.

if you trust everyone blind you will loose everthing.
if you don't trust anyone you will change nothing.
but if you trust everyone with caution, you will get rich in this forum.

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Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:15:34 PM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:10:25 PM

so exiting, what will happen now? ;-)

yeah, it's exciting
but somehow i like this coin
and this will kill it

i don't think so. if the devs are honest, they can proof it, and the coin only gets attention. that is not bad ;-)

but what if he doesn't honest?
then boom, i will fucked up Cheesy

It doesn't matter. People will lose interest in this coin anyways due to the way the dev is handling the situation.

SomeRelax

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@Evilish, you are killing me man
say something...

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Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:15:34 PM

Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:10:25 PM

so exiting, what will happen now? ;-)

yeah, it's exciting
but somehow i like this coin
and this will kill it

i don't think so. if the devs are honest, they can proof it, and the coin only gets attention. that is not bad ;-)

but what if he doesn't honest?
then boom, i will fucked up Cheesy

lordoliver

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Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:10:25 PM

so exiting, what will happen now? ;-)

yeah, it's exciting
but somehow i like this coin
and this will kill it

i don't think so. if the devs are honest, they can proof it, and the coin only gets attention. that is not bad ;-)

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Oh how I've missed the old days.

I missed the drama.

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Quote from: lordoliver on May 02, 2014, 06:10:25 PM

so exiting, what will happen now? ;-)

yeah, it's exciting
but somehow i like this coin
and this will kill it

lordoliver

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so exiting, what will happen now? ;-)
will one of the guys edit the html-source code to show wrong messages?
ladies and gentlemen, stay tuned...

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PMed

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Quote from: SomeRelax on May 02, 2014, 06:00:39 PM

THE ABOVE POST BY LOLJOSH IS PHOTOSHOPPED! WE ARE READY TO GIVE ANY TRUSTED MEMBER OUR PASSWORD TO CHECK THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE POST.

Password? Josh already allowed me to view the conversation between you and him through Team Viewer.

Lying isn't a good thing, BCCdev.

you can do the same BCCdev
let Evilish read your PMs through teamviewer

Yes. BCCdev, please PM me with your Team Viewer ID and Password.

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We are willing to share screen on teamview with Evilish! Send us the meeting id!

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THE ABOVE POST BY LOLJOSH IS PHOTOSHOPPED! WE ARE READY TO GIVE ANY TRUSTED MEMBER OUR PASSWORD TO CHECK THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE POST.

Password? Josh already allowed me to view the conversation between you and him through Team Viewer.

Lying isn't a good thing, BCCdev.

you can do the same BCCdev
let Evilish read your PMs through teamviewer

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THE ABOVE POST BY LOLJOSH IS PHOTOSHOPPED! WE ARE READY TO GIVE ANY TRUSTED MEMBER OUR PASSWORD TO CHECK THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE POST.

Password? Josh already allowed me to view the conversation between you and him through Team Viewer.

Lying isn't a good thing, BCCdev.

I suggest giving BCCdev a bad trust on his profile Angry

For false accusation

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THE ABOVE POST BY LOLJOSH IS PHOTOSHOPPED! WE ARE READY TO GIVE ANY TRUSTED MEMBER OUR PASSWORD TO CHECK THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE POST.

Password? Josh already allowed me to view the conversation between you and him through Team Viewer.

Lying isn't a good thing, BCCdev.

All the trusted members of this community are welcome to join my desktop via teamviewer to see his conversation.

BCCdev

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@Evilish give us a teamview meeting id. We will show you the truth.

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