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Topic: SCAMMER: Fancyhash. He refuses to pay me for some service done by me. (Read 3545 times)

legendary
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Every negative feedback has been removed. Please, fancyhash, remove your negative feedback into my profile.
legendary
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Negative feedback has been removed, it will be turned into a positive feedback once Stemby will post here his correction. Will tell to shorena and mexxer-2 to do the same. Once Stemby will post here his corrected version and everyone has checked, this thread will be closed.

Thank you. Thank you to Stemby for the collaboration and mainly thank you to Shorena and mexxer-2 that has allowed to me and fancyhash to reach a good compromise.

Hope that this sort of misunderstanding will not happen anymore, and why not, to work together in the next future. I'm available for all type of purposes.

PS: mexxer-2, you're more fast than the wind !
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legendary
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I'm a bit amazed by question about "missing full stop ". It makes me sure that Stemby's work will be done more then correctly. So i see no reason not to pay.
Gianluca95, write here your btc address for payment.


The best thing is when you work with the best, and Stemby is one of them.

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Thanks, once payment will be received I'll remove negative feedback and tell to shorena and mexxer-2 to do the same. Please, remove also the yours.

Thanks.
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I'm a bit amazed by question about "missing full stop ". It makes me sure that Stemby's work will be done more then correctly. So i see no reason not to pay.
Gianluca95, write here your btc address for payment.
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Quote from: Stemby link=topic=1371069.msg14047295#msg14047295
@fancyhash: what do I do when I find typos in the original English version?
Ping.

I can't do a perfect work if there are typos in the original files.

For example,  here, missing full stop at the end of the third sentence.

Hello,
Surely the better way will be correcting in Italian and informing me about them .
legendary
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Up...

Quote from: Stemby link=topic=1371069.msg14047295#msg14047295
@fancyhash: what do I do when I find typos in the original English version?
Ping.

I can't do a perfect work if there are typos in the original files.

For example,  here, missing full stop at the end of the third sentence.
legendary
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Quote from: Stemby link=topic=1371069.msg14047295#msg14047295
@fancyhash: what do I do when I find typos in the original English version?
Ping.

I can't do a perfect work if there are typos in the original files.
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A day without a buzz is like a day that never was
I've sent a PM to fancyhash with the solution that Stemby has purposed. Nothing to do, he doesn't answer me.

So, guys, what I have to do?

You should have done your job correctly from the start. Delivering it with so many mistakes and going back and forth about it was the reason for not getting paid.

Learn from it and move on.


Yes, but fancyhash not replying in an attempt to resolve the issue is unprofessional!
The guy has spent time translating,modifying & re-modifying. He [fancyhash] should have ask him to STOP during the modification/re-modification process!


Thanks
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A day without a buzz is like a day that never was
As i see everything in the first post from gianluca
fancy has to pay him,its not okey ...there is all the proof in the first post


Stemby was right, from the look of thing's (the posted thread by Gianluca94 and context of the translated text there seems to have visible error)

@Gianluca, i understand that you are an italian who probably speak english fluently but, that does nor make you a translator!

When it comes to translating phrases, doc ..ecc in english  certain command need to be consistent otherwise, you will end up uttering the message of the original writer.

Finally, i will like to compliment Gianluca94 for his motivation because i know how difficult it takes to translate from english into italian vice-versa. In such a situation,a partial payment will be ideal to solve the issue because  Gianluca94, has spent  time translating these phrases (site's)


Thanks
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legendary
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I'll send him the other files, don't worry.
Received.

@fancyhash: what do I do when I find typos in the original English version?
legendary
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We are in deal so need to find a solution.
Isn't the following a fair solution?

You pay the fees for someone to recheck and format his work, and the rest according to your deal would go to Gianulaca


I have paid fee for Stemby in way to speed up process and shake off this louse.
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Move On !!!!!!
We are in deal so need to find a solution.
Isn't the following a fair solution?

You pay the fees for someone to recheck and format his work, and the rest according to your deal would go to Gianulaca
legendary
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If you want, I can tell to people that hired me for some work to post here and express its opinion, your face will become totally white.


Instead of begging for feedbacks you 'd better to think and do your work .
For now, Stemby, said that you forgot to give him one file to check - file with initial post from my thread.

But if there is a problem?!  Sure not! I understand that you do your best. And now will send him file. Im always at your service to help find fails and correct them. You can fuck my brains  as much as you like. We are in deal so need to find a solution.

I totally hate you. If I had only 1 cents to play on roulette, I'll surely not play it on your site !

Stemby hasn't told me nothing, I have only told to him to take files on the main thread (here) and check for it. But ok, I'll send him the other files, don't worry.

You're fucking my brain, not the inverse, and you're really lucky that you're under a PC and not in front of my face.

Go and speak with Betcoin.tm, vegascasino.io, bikinidice and other people and asks in which way I work. Everyone is satisfied, you're the only one that have problems.


PS: We're in deal thanks to Shorena and mexxer-2.
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If you want, I can tell to people that hired me for some work to post here and express its opinion, your face will become totally white.


Instead of begging for feedbacks you 'd better to think and do your work .
For now, Stemby, said that you forgot to give him one file to check - file with initial post from my thread.

But if there is a problem?!  Sure not! I understand that you do your best. And now will send him file. Im always at your service to help find fails and correct them. You can fuck my brains  as much as you like. We are in deal so need to find a solution.
legendary
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Haven't you beg people that has worked for you in the past to come here and post a comment where they say that with you have worked in very well way? I don't doubt about this, but please, you're ridicolous, if shorena would haven't left you a negative feedback maybe we will not have found a solution.

If you want, I can tell to people that hired me for some work to post here and express its opinion, your face will become totally white.

I haven't beg any italian people to come here and post, I've only told: Please guy, go on that thread, read it and express your opinion. I haven't said "Go on that thread and say that translation is good". There is a difference between this two thing.
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You hired someone, the deal went not as expected, dont play the victim. Its a shame that I even have to make you finish this. We will soon seen how good the work by Gianluca95 was.


Excuse me , but the main thing is HOW "the deal went not as expected":
As you can see from the topic , all evidence are here, more then five times i got work with errors. Moreover, Gianluca95 every time corrected ONLY errors which i found for him. He didnt care about his work at all. He didnt check his work. Every time he wrote to me his btc address and warranted me that work done 100% correctly asking for payment = cheating me. The only reason i was not scammed by him is that i was forced every time to check what he sent me. Every time divert attention away from my work.

After fifth failed attempt i decided not to waste time any more. I   have complete confidence that 90% ppl will do the same much earlier.
Im sure that it is quite fair as on the part of business relations as on the part of human relations.
He failed to do job, im not his parent, as you said.
We do not need to " see how good the work by Gianluca95 was." I can send you his 1-2-3-4-5 versions . All of them with errors. Surely from version to version he corrected some which i pointed him to.  

I have one more example for you which describes the situation:
You hire pipe man to build plumbing system in your home. He did work.
U: -All is ok?
P: -Sure, man . Dont worry. All is perfect. Can you please pay for work.
U: Ok . I will check and pay.
In the evening you see that there is hot water in toilet bowl. You are calling to pipe man
U: Hello. We have some problems. water in toilet bowl is hot instead of cold.
P: Opps. I'm really sorry for that. Im Italian and it is ok here. Some Italians like it. But anyway OK. I will correct it. Do not worry! Can you please pay!
U: OK. Please check all other work.
Pipe man corrects bowl.
U: Now all is OK?
P: Sure. All is 100% good. Im the best!
U: Ok . I will check and pay.
Next day flow from the kitchen awakes you. You swim to the telephone
U: Hello. We have some problems here. House is knee-high with water.
P: Oh. Sorry for that. I will correct it. No problem. Do not worry! Btw can you please pay me for work!
U: Ok. Now you checked all?
P: Do not worry. 100% perfect.
U: Ok i will check and pay.
Next day douche falls to your wife.
U: Hello. We have problems here again.
P: Dont worry.  I will come and correct all.
...
As i understood fair and middle ground in this situation is to say:
OK. Never mind. Im sure, sooner or later work will be done great. Everybody can mistake. You can come and repair as much as you like. It's only 5 times for now?! Its about nothing. I will wait.


As about "Several Italian native speakers" you can look at thread in which he begging Italians to write here because of he is Italian too and Italians must be all together combat for him with other nations.

Moreover as you can see from the thread, his last version which he sent to me was with errors too! Thats why he wants Stemby to get version which he loaded to google.

NO. Deal is this:
1) You'll send ONLY original english files to Stemby
2) Stemby will catch the italian translation that I've posted on the OP. (Because it is the last version, this is the 2nd time that I say this).

So, the truth is that im really a victim in this situation and generally speaking your fair position might be:
Gianluca95 you dealt with Fancyhash to do work. You have had more then 5 failed attempts to do this work. What do you want now? Are you friends with him. Why should he stand your slapdash attitude ?
You have other opinion. Ok. Im here finding "solution".
I think that now, at the least, there are no grounds for negative feedbacks from you and other judge. Can you, please, remove them.
 
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No I dont escrow anymore.

Again "TS"? If you are refering to Gianluca95, I havent left them a negative rating because they are willing to find a solution, they are willing to find a compromise, a middle ground.


TS i mean "topic starter"

I see, thanks.

I did react instantly and wrote my opinion is that Gianluca95 is ugly worker and wasted my time and it is fair that after 5 attempts he was unable to do work correctly i will not pay him and will not use his translation.
I do not see something negative in this . this is exactly middle ground. It is fair.

and afterwards you did not react for 5 days, so I left a rating. A middle ground is where neither gets what they want. It is your decision to make this lengthy, dont blame others for your own priorities.

But you think that it is not fair, you think that if he "did something no matter what exactly" i need to find "solutions".

Several italian native speakers have attested it to be a good translation.

-snip-
Using your trust status, you forsing me pay individual who wasted my time for a month unable to do work. Ok . I have nothing to do in this case but find solution as you wish .

You hired someone, the deal went not as expected, dont play the victim. Its a shame that I even have to make you finish this. We will soon seen how good the work by Gianluca95 was.
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Fancyhash, please, send to Stemby the original files.

sent
legendary
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Fancyhash, please, send to Stemby the original files.
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Dude quote properly...lmao I never said that  Undecided Undecided

Corrected , Sir . As i can see you also do not like errors.. when concerning you personal ?   Undecided
legendary
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As discussed, 25% of the total amount of translation has been paid to Stemby in advance:

https://blockchain.info/tx/dd8242b294f63f3f6c506230f01d281cc3de72a76a62239c05dbede2b8fce828

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Dude quote properly...lmao I never said that  Undecided Undecided
legendary
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I do agree, I'll check and fix all files (Italian language and file structure). For openness I'll post here the diff between Gianluca95's translation and mine.

See you soon! (via PMs and e-mails)
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Again "TS"? If you are refering to Gianluca95, I havent left them a negative rating because they are willing to find a solution, they are willing to find a compromise, a middle ground.



TS i mean "topic starter"
I did react instantly and wrote my opinion is that Gianluca95 is ugly worker and wasted my time and it is fair that after 5 attempts he was unable to do work correctly i will not pay him and will not use his translation.
I do not see something negative in this . this is exactly middle ground. It is fair.

But you think that it is not fair, you think that if he "did something no matter what exactly" i need to find "solutions".
Not all here thinks the same.
I already wrote example here . Seems you think that situation is quite ok ? :

Both are extremities ....why don't you chose a median way ?

So what is "median way" ? Can you please suggest ?

As i understand it is quite ok for you and valid for the contest to take work . make something , something not , something wrong. Send it to employer and beg payment saying " i did something - pay me" .
If employer find errors - you correct them. Only them . you do not check and correct something more . Then again beg payment saying "i did something - pay me" .
And again and again.

Can you, please , put yourself in my place?
Every time correcting errors i spend my time! Every time i see that worker not care at all about what he do .
So how many times it can be continued to be the "median way" ?
For now it is more then five times i got work with errors. And forced to read here from you that im retard
Should i tolerate five more attempts (Every time correcting errors and spending my time) or ten or how many ?

For example, you bought ticket to plane . You get it with errors and was unable to get to plane.
Lost many time to get to airport and back .You come to operator who sold ticket and tell him that your ticket is not valid.
Operator answer: No problem, bro! Sorry for that. Here is new one. Have a nice day.
You get another one and situation repeated - ticket is not valid again.
Again you come to operator and he tells you: No problem, bro! Sorry for that. Here is new one. Have a nice day.
You are trying to say : Stop, i wanna moneyback i will buy ticket from another operator . I m tied of this!
And as answer you hear: Are you retard??! Here is new ticket. take it and shutup ! And have a nice day

Using your trust status, you forsing me pay individual who wasted my time for a month unable to do work. Ok . I have nothing to do in this case but find solution as you wish .
legendary
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Reputation first.
I can check the structure too: I'm skilled in software development.

Btw, sorry for asking but, are you translator , did you translated something for somebody here? Will you take some financial responsibility for your work (if later will happen that you missed some errors) ?
I will be glad if yes.

And as for the structure: all tabs and tags must be in place. Original and translated files structure must be completely identic.
You wrote that you need escrow and i need escrow too because in other case Gianluca95  will say "dont worry. it's ok. this error is "Valid for the contest". here is corrected version"..
Do you really think that i have to correct errors endlessly?
So it must be understandable for all : every error matter. one error - no payment and no more iteration  



Stemby, are you agree to check files ? In this case i will send you original files to check with .


Stemby has agreed, don't worry.

PS: Stemby will receive file that are posted on the OP, not other.


I do not care what you have posted . I have original files to which i will check translated files and for sure Stemby need them to be able to check translation . He can diff them with your files if he wants .


You can give to him original files of your site, for translated files he has to take it on the OP, because the last version of translation has been posted on the OP. Understood?

Why you asking me about understanding? Look and see that you wrote the same  i wrote to Stemby:
Stemby, are you agree to check files ? In this case i will send you original files to check with .

So ask yourself is it Understood or not.


NO. Deal is this:

1) You'll send ONLY original english files to Stemby
2) Stemby will catch the italian translation that I've posted on the OP. (Because it is the last version, this is the 2nd time that I say this).
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No I dont escrow anymore.
Hi!

Didn't saw the thread until now. I translated the site to Spanish, and i got paid 24H~ after i sent the files. My translation contained a few errors, that i solved and everything was fine imo. So, aleast in from my experience, fancyhash is not an scammer.

If anyone have any question regarding my work/transaction feel free to ask, i'll reply asap Smiley

I assume fancyhash asked you to post here as some sort of witness of character, but its derailing the thread. If you think your deal went great leave a positive rating with a good reference.
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Hi!

Didn't saw the thread until now. I translated the site to Spanish, and i got paid 24H~ after i sent the files. My translation contained a few errors, that i solved and everything was fine imo. So, aleast in from my experience, fancyhash is not an scammer.

If anyone have any question regarding my work/transaction feel free to ask, i'll reply asap Smiley
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I can check the structure too: I'm skilled in software development.

Btw, sorry for asking but, are you translator , did you translated something for somebody here? Will you take some financial responsibility for your work (if later will happen that you missed some errors) ?
I will be glad if yes.

And as for the structure: all tabs and tags must be in place. Original and translated files structure must be completely identic.
You wrote that you need escrow and i need escrow too because in other case Gianluca95  will say "dont worry. it's ok. this error is "Valid for the contest". here is corrected version"..
Do you really think that i have to correct errors endlessly?
So it must be understandable for all : every error matter. one error - no payment and no more iteration  



Stemby, are you agree to check files ? In this case i will send you original files to check with .


Stemby has agreed, don't worry.

PS: Stemby will receive file that are posted on the OP, not other.


I do not care what you have posted . I have original files to which i will check translated files and for sure Stemby need them to be able to check translation . He can diff them with your files if he wants .


You can give to him original files of your site, for translated files he has to take it on the OP, because the last version of translation has been posted on the OP. Understood?

Why you asking me about understanding? Look and see that you wrote the same  i wrote to Stemby:
Stemby, are you agree to check files ? In this case i will send you original files to check with .

So ask yourself is it Understood or not.
legendary
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Reputation first.
I can check the structure too: I'm skilled in software development.

Btw, sorry for asking but, are you translator , did you translated something for somebody here? Will you take some financial responsibility for your work (if later will happen that you missed some errors) ?
I will be glad if yes.

And as for the structure: all tabs and tags must be in place. Original and translated files structure must be completely identic.
You wrote that you need escrow and i need escrow too because in other case Gianluca95  will say "dont worry. it's ok. this error is "Valid for the contest". here is corrected version"..
Do you really think that i have to correct errors endlessly?
So it must be understandable for all : every error matter. one error - no payment and no more iteration  



Stemby, are you agree to check files ? In this case i will send you original files to check with .


Stemby has agreed, don't worry.

PS: Stemby will receive file that are posted on the OP, not other.


I do not care what you have posted . I have original files to which i will check translated files and for sure Stemby need them to be able to check translation . He can diff them with your files if he wants .


You can give to him original files of your site, for translated files he has to take it on the OP, because the last version of translation has been posted on the OP. Understood?
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I can check the structure too: I'm skilled in software development.

Btw, sorry for asking but, are you translator , did you translated something for somebody here? Will you take some financial responsibility for your work (if later will happen that you missed some errors) ?
I will be glad if yes.

And as for the structure: all tabs and tags must be in place. Original and translated files structure must be completely identic.
You wrote that you need escrow and i need escrow too because in other case Gianluca95  will say "dont worry. it's ok. this error is "Valid for the contest". here is corrected version"..
Do you really think that i have to correct errors endlessly?
So it must be understandable for all : every error matter. one error - no payment and no more iteration 



Stemby, are you agree to check files ? In this case i will send you original files to check with .


Stemby has agreed, don't worry.

PS: Stemby will receive file that are posted on the OP, not other.


I do not care what you have posted . I have original files to which i will check translated files and for sure Stemby need them to be able to check translation . He can diff them with your files if he wants .
legendary
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Reputation first.
I can check the structure too: I'm skilled in software development.

Btw, sorry for asking but, are you translator , did you translated something for somebody here? Will you take some financial responsibility for your work (if later will happen that you missed some errors) ?
I will be glad if yes.

And as for the structure: all tabs and tags must be in place. Original and translated files structure must be completely identic.
You wrote that you need escrow and i need escrow too because in other case Gianluca95  will say "dont worry. it's ok. this error is "Valid for the contest". here is corrected version"..
Do you really think that i have to correct errors endlessly?
So it must be understandable for all : every error matter. one error - no payment and no more iteration 



Stemby, are you agree to check files ? In this case i will send you original files to check with .


Stemby has agreed, don't worry.

PS: Stemby will receive file that are posted on the OP, not other.

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I can check the structure too: I'm skilled in software development.

Btw, sorry for asking but, are you translator , did you translated something for somebody here? Will you take some financial responsibility for your work (if later will happen that you missed some errors) ?
I will be glad if yes.

And as for the structure: all tabs and tags must be in place. Original and translated files structure must be completely identic.
You wrote that you need escrow and i need escrow too because in other case Gianluca95  will say "dont worry. it's ok. this error is "Valid for the contest". here is corrected version"..
Do you really think that i have to correct errors endlessly?
So it must be understandable for all : every error matter. one error - no payment and no more iteration 



Stemby, are you agree to check files ? In this case i will send you original files to check with .
legendary
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Reputation first.

May you stop to say "begging money"? Please, you're ridicolous. For around 30$ I want to keep my hands clean. I'm start to think that you're stingy and find every way to not pay.


YES. Once Stemby will check files and ONCE you'll have given funds to OGnasty you'll be able to check.

Terms is this:
Once Stemby has checked file and correct eventually errors (I don't think that there are other errors, but, let him check), from that moment you have 24 hours to check and tell to OgNasty to pay me or not.

Is it ok for you?




Ok.

Terms is this:
Quote
Once Stemby has checked file and correct eventually errors (I don't think that there are other errors, but, let him check), from that moment you have 24 hours to check and tell to OgNasty to pay me or not.
If i will find error in file structure that will mean that we stop debates . You agree not to be paid and will close this case with asking money.



Perfect. Now is better if we stop controversy and start to work !
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May you stop to say "begging money"? Please, you're ridicolous. For around 30$ I want to keep my hands clean. I'm start to think that you're stingy and find every way to not pay.


YES. Once Stemby will check files and ONCE you'll have given funds to OGnasty you'll be able to check.

Terms is this:
Once Stemby has checked file and correct eventually errors (I don't think that there are other errors, but, let him check), from that moment you have 24 hours to check and tell to OgNasty to pay me or not.

Is it ok for you?




Ok.

Terms is this:
Quote
Once Stemby has checked file and correct eventually errors (I don't think that there are other errors, but, let him check), from that moment you have 24 hours to check and tell to OgNasty to pay me or not.
If i will find error in file structure that will mean that we stop debates . You agree not to be paid and will close this case with asking money.

yes , for sure removing negative feedbacks,
Btw ppl who posted feedbacks didnt write here a word. It is interesting why they did that . I think because they didnt read thread 

legendary
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I'm really tired. Stop to be a children, you're saying the same thing on this last 4 messages. If you open file that I've posted, you'll check that:


Im tired of you fucking my brains during long time and now tying to explain ppl my position.
And trying to stop this . I do not want to check and check and check.
So will you be so kind to stop begging money for your "work" if i will find errors again??  



I'm not in need to beg money, don't worry, my work is better than yours and I earn 2 and maybe also 3x of your earnings from your site. You're really lucky that you aren't in front of me, everyone under a PC can be a lion.

What do you think about terms that I've purposed? Are you agree with this?


I do not see answer to my question which is the main question in this debate: How long you will continue to beg money for incorrect work?
Will you stop it if i will find errors in your next version or you plan to correct them and continue begging?
Can you please say YES or NO?

If YES . Then i will check files . And pay you if there will be no errors.



PS: For the last time, I'm not responsible for the code, we have done a deal for a translation, stop.


It is not a code . It is file structure . And one more time : You are responsible for file structure coz you applied to order
And we do not "done a deal for a translation"
The deal was : translate files and keep file structure!  
 What is the problem with this ?


May you stop to say "begging money"? Please, you're ridicolous. For around 30$ I want to keep my hands clean. I'm start to think that you're stingy and find every way to not pay.


YES. Once Stemby will check files and ONCE you'll have given funds to OGnasty you'll be able to check.

Terms is this:
Once Stemby has checked file and correct eventually errors (I don't think that there are other errors, but, let him check), from that moment you have 24 hours to check and tell to OgNasty to pay me or not.

EACH NEGATIVE FEEDBACK WILL BE REMOVED.. And I think that this is better for you than me.

Is it ok for you?


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I'm really tired. Stop to be a children, you're saying the same thing on this last 4 messages. If you open file that I've posted, you'll check that:


Im tired of you fucking my brains during long time and now tying to explain ppl my position.
And trying to stop this . I do not want to check and check and check.
So will you be so kind to stop begging money for your "work" if i will find errors again??  



I'm not in need to beg money, don't worry, my work is better than yours and I earn 2 and maybe also 3x of your earnings from your site. You're really lucky that you aren't in front of me, everyone under a PC can be a lion.

What do you think about terms that I've purposed? Are you agree with this?


I do not see answer to my question which is the main question in this debate: How long you will continue to beg money for incorrect work?
Will you stop it if i will find errors in your next version or you plan to correct them and continue begging?
Can you please say YES or NO?

If YES . Then i will check files . And pay you if there will be no errors.



PS: For the last time, I'm not responsible for the code, we have done a deal for a translation, stop.


It is not a code . It is file structure . And one more time : You are responsible for file structure coz you applied to order
And we do not "done a deal for a translation"
The deal was : translate files and keep file structure!  
 What is the problem with this ?
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I'm really tired. Stop to be a children, you're saying the same thing on this last 4 messages. If you open file that I've posted, you'll check that:


Im tired of you fucking my brains during long time and now tying to explain ppl my position.
And trying to stop this . I do not want to check and check and check.
So will you be so kind to stop begging money for your "work" if i will find errors again??  



I'm not in need to beg money, don't worry, my work is better than yours and I earn 2 and maybe also 3x of your earnings from your site. You're really lucky that you aren't in front of me, everyone under a PC can be a lion.

What do you think about terms that I've purposed? Are you agree with this?


PS: OgNasty has been contacted, I've offered him 2% of total amount in escrow.

And please, stop this discussion as soon as possible, I'm tired.
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I'm really tired. Stop to be a children, you're saying the same thing on this last 4 messages. If you open file that I've posted, you'll check that:


Im tired of you fucking my brains during long time and now tying to explain ppl my position.
And trying to stop this . I do not want to check and check and check.
So will you be so kind to stop begging money for your "work" if i will find errors again?? 
legendary
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I'm really tired. Stop to be a children, you're saying the same thing on this last 4 messages. If you open file that I've posted, you'll check that:

- Tab, structure, ecc. is correct
- Italian translation has been made in very good way.

I'll not find an escrow that will require a fee. I'll choice OGnasty, and if he charge some fee for me is ok. I just want to let you know who will be the escrow.

PS: I think that you have to stop your children cries, because you said to me "this is the last term, if translation is good, I'll pay for it, ecc." Translation was PERFECT as the structure, etc. But you haven't answered me and you're disappeared. So, try to be honest for only one time and stop to cry. When I've worked for other people, work was perfect in every case and no one have had any complaints for my works and you can check my trust rating to see this.

If stemby agree, I'll send to him translations and 25% of the total amount.


PS: For the last time, I'm not responsible for the code, we have done a deal for a translation, stop.


PPS: Another term is this:

You'll remove negative feedback into my profile, and I'll do the same in yours, ok?

I'll contact mexxer-2 and shorena (once everything will be finished) and will tell to them to remove negative feedback from your profile.
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Both are extremities ....why don't you chose a median way ?

So what is "median way" ? Can you please suggest ?

As i understand it is quite ok for you and valid for the contest to take work . make something , something not , something wrong. Send it to employer and beg payment saying " i did something - pay me" .
If employer find errors - you correct them. Only them . you do not check and correct something more . Then again beg payment saying "i did something - pay me" .
And again and again.

Can you, please , put yourself in my place?
Every time correcting errors i spend my time! Every time i see that worker not care at all about what he do .
So how many times it can be continued to be the "median way" ?
For now it is more then five times i got work with errors. And forced to read here from you that im retard
Should i tolerate five more attempts (Every time correcting errors and spending my time) or ten or how many ?

For example, you bought ticket to plane . You get it with errors and was unable to get to plane.
Lost many time to get to airport and back .You come to operator who sold ticket and tell him that your ticket is not valid.
Operator answer: No problem, bro! Sorry for that. Here is new one. Have a nice day.
You get another one and situation repeated - ticket is not valid again.
Again you come to operator and he tells you: No problem, bro! Sorry for that. Here is new one. Have a nice day.
You are trying to say : Stop, i wanna moneyback i will buy ticket from another operator . I m tied of this!
And as answer you hear: Are you retard??! Here is new ticket. take it and shutup ! And have a nice day
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Both are extremities ....why don't you chose a median way ?
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one error - no payment and no more iteration  
You seem to be a retard ?

So you think that i should continue taking files with errors . Check them . Find errors . Points TS to them . Then taking files again . Check them . Find errors . Points TS to them . and so on . Right?
How many times you think is enough?
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one error - no payment and no more iteration  
You seem to be a retard ?
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I can check the structure too: I'm skilled in software development.

Btw, sorry for asking but, are you translator , did you translated something for somebody here? Will you take some financial responsibility for your work (if later will happen that you missed some errors) ?
I will be glad if yes.

And as for the structure: all tabs and tags must be in place. Original and translated files structure must be completely identic.
You wrote that you need escrow and i need escrow too because in other case Gianluca95  will say "dont worry. it's ok. this error is "Valid for the contest". here is corrected version"..
Do you really think that i have to correct errors endlessly?
So it must be understandable for all : every error matter. one error - no payment and no more iteration 

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I can check the structure too: I'm skilled in software development.
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Rational time? But If you asked me to correct something on the translation and this was sent to you almost instantly, what do you want? Please, don't change roles, keep in mind that the man that has tried to take time in every way was you and not me, and PM talks in very clear way.


More then 5 times you sent me files with errors claiming that work was done! Cheating me.
That means exactly that more then 5 times you tried to scam me : work was not done but you asked for payment.
Every time you have corrected ONLY errors which i found !  

EVERY TIME CONTINUE SENDING ME FILES WITH ERRORS = TRYING TO SCAM ME = GET PAYMENT FOR WORK WHICH WAS NOT DONE.

MAY BE YOU WISH TO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, AND COMPENSATE ME MY TIME  FOR DEALING WITH YOU?



I've said you that I'm not a coder, so is not my responsibility to check if structure and other things are correct, if you're noob that you aren't able to check it I can not do nothing.

I've said you that my order was :
I need to get this files exactly the same structure after translation. (tabs, tags etc )

May be you do not understand what i wrote in order ?
Coz you are  "not english and I can misunderstand something." (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13936435)
If order is not understandable for you i can try to explain:  IT IS EXACTLY YOUR WORK to check if structure and other things are correct.


And for the first 4 times your complaints was concerned about the code and NOT for translations.

After 4 times concerned about the code and NOT for translations it turn out that you didnt translate some text at all .
After that you sent me files with translated words which i show you but AGAIN with some untranslated parts!


Code:
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Re: Translation English-->Italian
« Sent to: fancyhash on: February 12, 2016, 03:15:01 PM »
Reply with quoteQuote ReplyReply Remove this messageDelete
Please, note that is impossible that there are some errors, because I've downloaded your file for another time and then I've worked with a MASSIVE attention in way to avoid to create any problem to your structure. I've used notepad++.

So, I'm really sure that I haven't wrong nothing. I have checked it for 2-3 hours before to sent it to you.
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Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 14, 2016, 01:55:58 PM
Hope that tomorrow you'll pay me. I wouldn't want to take some proceedings, so, hope that everything will be good.


I found more mistakes in your translation
for example u didnt translate phrases :
 100% live fair play. Get in the game.
Login
Password
Waiting
and many others .
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And then again:

Code:
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Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 15, 2016, 05:40:33 PM
Listen, note that in italian Login, password, Waiting and other sentence are not translated because they are also used in italian. That's a universal form of language, don't worry.


live fair play. Get in the game.
send_btc_to_address: Send btc to address

this ones too ? ))
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Re: Translation English-->Italian
« Sent to: fancyhash on: February 15, 2016, 05:49:35 PM »
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Live fair play is also valid for the contest.
"Get in the game": Entra nel gioco
Send BTC to address: Is also valid for the contest but if you want, substitute with: Invia BTC all'indirizzo:
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LOL "Valid for the contest" may be said for all english texts coz many Italians know english and can understand it.  (but as we can see here .. not all of them ) )
So you may send me text without translation at all . why not?  

So what we can do now:
1. You will ask (and pay if needed) Stemby to check and warrant  that translation is correct in connection with language grammar and    punctuation.
2. You will find paid escrow (not free) and will pay fees . I will send him original files and you will send to me and to escrow translated files . I will check them . If at least only one tab or tag or something else in files will differ this will be the end . You will not be paid and will have no more attempts.
If files will be ok you will get 90%


legendary
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I get tied of correcting his errors and waste my time. Probably this work should be paid too? Not only your correction. What do you think?
In fact my proposal is 25% + 65% = 90% of the stipulated amount (10% is for your annoyance). And you would get a really perfect work: my punctiliousness is legendary  Tongue


25% of the amount will be paid in ADVANCE by me, so, 35% sales for the translation is a good deal. I don't want to add other thing, I'm trying to do my best in way to conclude in the best way this sort of misunderstanding.

legendary
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I get tied of correcting his errors and waste my time. Probably this work should be paid too? Not only your correction. What do you think?
In fact my proposal is 25% + 65% = 90% of the stipulated amount (10% is for your annoyance). And you would get a really perfect work: my punctiliousness is legendary  Tongue
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Guys,what you say??? fancyhash  always paid for jobs and offers Smiley I want to work with fancyhash in the future too:) Thank you fancyhash !!!:) All the best wishes for fancyhash:)
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Rational time? But If you asked me to correct something on the translation and this was sent to you almost instantly, what do you want? Please, don't change roles, keep in mind that the man that has tried to take time in every way was you and not me, and PM talks in very clear way.


More then 5 times you sent me files with errors claiming that work was done! Cheating me.
That means exactly that more then 5 times you tried to scam me : work was not done but you asked for payment.
Every time you have corrected ONLY errors which i found !  

EVERY TIME CONTINUE SENDING ME FILES WITH ERRORS = TRYING TO SCAM ME = GET PAYMENT FOR WORK WHICH WAS NOT DONE.

MAY BE YOU WISH TO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, AND COMPENSATE ME MY TIME  FOR DEALING WITH YOU?



I've said you that I'm not a coder, so is not my responsibility to check if structure and other things are correct, if you're noob that you aren't able to check it I can not do nothing.

And for the first 4 times your complaints was concerned about the code and NOT for translations.

So, expand your creativity and invent other excuses. You have checked translation the last time? (when you have said me: You have the last possibility) I guess no. File IS perfect and also translations. So, if you want to recover your face, you have some time to do it, but if you don't want to do it, I'm glad to let community know that you're a scammer.

My equation is this:

EVERY TIME CONTINUE WASTE TIME WITH SOME EXCUSES = TRYING TO SCAM ME = AVOID PAYMENT FOR WORK WHICH WAS DONE.
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Rational time? But If you asked me to correct something on the translation and this was sent to you almost instantly, what do you want? Please, don't change roles, keep in mind that the man that has tried to take time in every way was you and not me, and PM talks in very clear way.


More then 5 times you sent me files with errors claiming that work was done! Cheating me.
That means exactly that more then 5 times you tried to scam me : work was not done but you asked for payment.
Every time you have corrected ONLY errors which i found ! 

EVERY TIME CONTINUE SENDING ME FILES WITH ERRORS = TRYING TO SCAM ME = GET PAYMENT FOR WORK WHICH WAS NOT DONE.

MAY BE YOU WISH TO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, AND COMPENSATE ME MY TIME  FOR DEALING WITH YOU?

legendary
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After tons of fails, you tell us that translation is ok. I do not believe and i have no time to check and i do not wish to check.
I can do it for you, and I'm maniacally punctilious. Obviously I can't do it for free, but my proposal should be reasonable. Escrow required.

Ciao!

Hmm, put yourself in my place. Is it OK to deal with someone who don't give a hoot on his job, on what he do for you? But begging payment.
I get tied of correcting his errors and waste my time. Probably this work should be paid too? Not only your correction. What do you think?

Instead to be a children, check translation and see if there are other errors ! I haven't understood yet what do you want from me ! I've made my work for you, what is your problem? You have given to me last possibility (check the last PM) and translation was made in very good way, what do you want right now? Why don't you want to pay me?

If you don't want to pay me for me is ok, but community have to know the person that you're.

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After tons of fails, you tell us that translation is ok. I do not believe and i have no time to check and i do not wish to check.
I can do it for you, and I'm maniacally punctilious. Obviously I can't do it for free, but my proposal should be reasonable. Escrow required.

Ciao!

Hmm, put yourself in my place. Is it OK to deal with someone who don't give a hoot on his job, on what he do for you? But begging payment.
I get tied of correcting his errors and waste my time. Probably this work should be paid too? Not only your correction. What do you think?
legendary
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After tons of fails, you tell us that translation is ok. I do not believe and i have no time to check and i do not wish to check.
I can do it for you, and I'm maniacally punctilious. Obviously I can't do it for free, but my proposal should be reasonable. Escrow required.

Ciao!
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I've sent a PM to fancyhash with the solution that Stemby has purposed. Nothing to do, he doesn't answer me.

So, guys, what I have to do?

You should have done your job correctly from the start. Delivering it with so many mistakes and going back and forth about it was the reason for not getting paid.

Learn from it and move on.

Listen, first, I'm not a coder and is not my responsibility to check code under some text.
Second, translation has been done in very good way, translation was disputed only for one time, so, shut up and check it instead to say false things.
Third, I've done several translation works and I don't never had any problem. I'm here for have a comparison with fancyhash, but it seems that he is disappeared.
Fourth, I've sent a PM to him yesterday with Stemby's purposal and I haven't received any response.

So, what do you want? Tell to fancyhash to come here, everyone is waiting for him.


Listen, first, the order was:
Code:
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[i]Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 06, 2016, 05:38:52 PM
I'm interested. Can I do this work for you?

Great . I can send u lang files to view and calculate price.[b] I need to get this files exactly the same structure after translation. (tabs, tags etc )[/b]
give me your email, please [/i]
-----

So that's the main things: you tried to scam me applied for work which you unable to do! And waste and continue wasting my time!  
You do not know english well , you are not coder and do not know what is "tag" "tab" "structure" .. you can only begging money here.



Listen, Second:
Translation was made ugly!

Code:
[i]
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1. Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 09, 2016, 04:16:08 PM
Sir, but I haven't received any PM from you :/

What I have to correct?

ooops. sorry.
The problem is that:
1. i do not see translated en.yml file
2. I need files exactly the same structure as i gave u. So rtf format doesnt fit coz file consists of unnecessary symbols
----------------------

Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 09, 2016, 09:17:54 PM
Ok, translation in yml format has been sent. We're ok now

1Keobr25pfnsgVsokKVLTqRVueymaQS92K

it.partners.yml - is incorrect

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 10, 2016, 12:16:32 PM
is it ok now?

no. it is not ok.
As i wrote to you in initial post :
 I need to get this files exactly the same structure after translation. (tabs, tags etc )
give me your email, please

your files are incorrect . some tabs do not closed . files are with outsider symbols

------------------------

Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 10, 2016, 08:22:41 PM
I'm waiting for 4 days, I want to let you know only this.

Ok, will also wait for tomorrow.


I checked files and found more errors . for example:
    p>

    

Come è determinato il numero vincente?


    

          
  1. Nel blocco, saltiamo tutti i caratteri nulli da sinistra più uno diverso da zero.

  2.       
  3. I seguenti due caratteri sono presi come numeri esadecimali.li>
          
  4. Il numero è convertito in base-10.

  5.       
  6. Se il risultato del numero è minore di 222, poi il numero vincente sarà il resto del dividendo del numero uscito per 37, poi esso sarà il numero risultante esso
          
  7. Se il numero risultante è migliore di 222,poi i 2 caratteri nel punto 2 sono saltati e saranno utilizzati i sugenti invece.li>
          
  8. Per qualsiasi blocco, possono esserci diversi numeri vincenti che dipendono dall'importo della scommessa che è stato giocato in quel dato blocco.li>
        



You can open original file and see how tags should be located  . symbol missing like here li>    p>
Without correct structure im unable to get translation working
And it is not my work to correct errors . I have no time to do it for now, sorry

one more
./it.yml:  total_wins: Vincite totali
./it.yml:  total_wins: Vincite toali

and so on..

--------------------[/i]

Even after that (4-5 tries) you continue sending me files with errors accompany them with message "dont worry" and correcting only errors to which your nose was sticked in.

Supposing i put your translation with tons of errors on site, what ppl will think about it?
Surely you do not care. You couldn't care less. Coz you tried to scam me , get money and go away.

After tons of fails, you tell us that translation is ok. I do not believe and i have no time to check and i do not wish to check.
It's doesnt matter now. You can have a ticket on train but train goes away already.

You are totally ignorant irresponsible scandalous individual. You applied to english - italian translation even not knowing english well. Made a lot of mistakes and was unable to correct them in rational time claiming me that there is no mistakes. Instead of working you prefer begging money.
You can continue asking ppl to write dirt in my trust it will not help you to scam me.

legendary
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I've sent a PM to fancyhash with the solution that Stemby has purposed. Nothing to do, he doesn't answer me.

So, guys, what I have to do?

You should have done your job correctly from the start. Delivering it with so many mistakes and going back and forth about it was the reason for not getting paid.

Learn from it and move on.

Listen, first, I'm not a coder and is not my responsibility to check code under some text.
Second, translation has been done in very good way, translation was disputed only for one time, so, shut up and check it instead to say false things.
Third, I've done several translation works and I don't never had any problem. I'm here for have a comparison with fancyhash, but it seems that he is disappeared.
Fourth, I've sent a PM to him yesterday with Stemby's purposal and I haven't received any response.

So, what do you want? Tell to fancyhash to come here, everyone is waiting for him.
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I've sent a PM to fancyhash with the solution that Stemby has purposed. Nothing to do, he doesn't answer me.

So, guys, what I have to do?

You should have done your job correctly from the start. Delivering it with so many mistakes and going back and forth about it was the reason for not getting paid.

Learn from it and move on.
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lol AFAIK theymos was promoting his site for free,could be wrong though.
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legendary
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I've sent a PM to fancyhash with the solution that Stemby has purposed. Nothing to do, he doesn't answer me.

So, guys, what I have to do?
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In my opinion Gianluca95 didn't deserve such a treatment like "i don't like your work, bye"... Stemby proposal is nice and surely fancyhash need to be less harsh on judgments.
legendary
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I'm in agree with the 2nd purposal of Stemby. If fancyhash wants, we can split the amount (would be 0.01 BTC each one) in way to fix eventually errors.


@Stemby: All of that mistakes has been fixed. Final version has been sent on 18th February.
legendary
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Screenshots posted in this discussion show lots of mistakes. I haven't looked at the final version, so I can't judge the quality of the total work; actually I can't do free jobs.

What do you think about this proposal?

1) paying Gianluca95 65% of 0.075 XBT
2) paying someone (I can do it) 25% of 0.075 XBT for checking and fixing mistakes

Ciao!
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As i see everything in the first post from gianluca
fancy has to pay him,its not okey ...there is all the proof in the first post
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You're very ridicolous.

1) What if an italian user has checked translation and told to you that is good? Why don't you want to pay me?
2) I'm not English, I'm Italian. Are you able to read? Please, read in good way that sentence, if you're able to read.
3) I have done many translation before the yours and no one had any complaints. Everyone was satisfied about my works. (check my trust list, please)
4) Don't you want to pay? Ok, but as I seen you're only a Jr.Member and you have to know that this community confide so much on trust rating, so, I don't think that is very good your strategy to shill me for not pay 0.075 BTC (that not changed my life, but I want to be paid for my work).
5) Data is public. Everyone, italians and not, can check and write here if translation is good or not. In italian section you have received the first reply from an italian user that said to you that translation is good.
6) I've fixed the last errors. Do you remember about our last deal? Check PM that I've showed above, you'll find it if your brain is fucked (as you said).

I WANT TO BE PAID FOR THE WORK THAT I'VE DONE ! I'm going to leave a negative feedback which will be removed only once you have paid me.
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So, what I have to do guys?


You do not have to apply for work which you unable to do.

I have translated site to 4 languages . 2 translates are from this forum:
This man:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/atsuky-33845
And this man:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/atsuky-33845

Both were paid AFTER i got translation. Both did it very well! We have no problems .

I ordered banner from this great man:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/roslinpl-158505
He made cool banner and got payment AFTER work was done.  We have no problems .

And i can continue this list of normal ppl .

As for you, you did not work . It is not my duty to find errors and poke down you to each one. I did it one , second , third time. But now I am tied of it.
I will not use your translation . Because to use it i need to hire new translator to verify all that you did.
You will never be paid for it.


Look at what you post :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13936435


If you do not know english well then wherefore you fucked my brains and waste my time with translation from english?



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Hi guys, as subject as mentioned, I want to open a scam accusation against fancyhash.

What's happened?: This guy, something like 2-3 week ago come on the italian section and asks for a translation of its site. So, I PMed him and we have concluded deal for 0.075 BTC. He sent me the original text through e-mail (will paste it here if necessary). Then, he asked me to translate text without changing tag and code(that's ok). When I've sent translation to him for the first and 2nd time, something on tag/code was wrong and naturally he said to me "Please fix the error with structure because I can not load translation on the site" and I've done it (but I'm a translator, not a coder, anyway  Roll Eyes). Then, once code/tag was fixed, he tried to take time and send me only 1 PM everyday to say me "this is wrong, that is wrong, etc. etc." So, 3 weeks are passed but I haven't seen my money. Everytime that I've delivered my translation to him his reply always was: "Now I haven't time to check". And after one-two days he asked to me to fix other strange thing. I'm really tired guys and I can paste here every proof without any problem, translation has been done in very good way and I've done many translation works since I'm here.

Translation that I've done:
- Betcoin.tm
- Provablyfair.casino
- BikiniDice



He asked in the italian section for an opinion about the translation, and reply was this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13905106

Anyway, text of site has many truncated sentence and he asked to me to fix it (totally absurd !!!). Last time that I've heard him was on 18th February and contact started in 6th February.

Translation is here (in english and in italian in way that everyone can compare)
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5jaVeZtgNMDaTJMcldWNzl1WU0&usp=sharing

This was the opinion, with some errors that I've fixed, and everyone can check:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13905106

Never received a response here, is clearly what he wants to do with me:






Check proof here:










So, what I have to do guys?


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