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Topic: SCAMMER: TradeFortress! Blackmailed me with dox to install Teamviewer (Read 16074 times)

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Some guy claims to have developed software that breaks certain encryption, will only sell to "neutral countries" and wants BTC loans, I ask for eproof that he knows what he's talking about at least and gets accused of been part of the Defense Signals Directorate or something.


No, I claimed that I have invented the technology and need loans to bring it to life. Also, you asked for a proof of concept, which is easy to reverse engineer.

I hear you don't even know which function to use for password encryption. I have invented a better-than-currently-best-publically-known-password encryption function worth several milion Swiss francs (CHF) in early November, 2011, but I don't have the money necessary to patent it.

In relation to your lack of expertese, you could only want a proof of concept to provide it to someone knowledgeable. In your country, this would — very obviously — be the Defense Security Directorate (DSD) or a defence contractor providing technology to them.
vip
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TradeFortress is not a scammer. He just wants to persuade everyone to share their inventions with him, without any covert action on his part. For instance, he will lend you e.g. an amount of Bitcoins (BTC) equivalent to several thousand Swiss francs (CHF) if you share inventions worth several million Swiss francs (CHF) with him. He is kind of like Satan – you will truly get what he promised, but the catch lies outside of the deal at hand. That is considerably different from a scammer, even though the other party might be "slightly" shocked. Cheesy Cheesy

Wait, what?

Some guy claims to have developed software that breaks certain encryption, will only sell to "neutral countries" and wants BTC loans, I ask for proof that he knows what he's talking about at least and gets accused of been part of the Defense Signals Directorate or something.
hero member
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TradeFortress is not a scammer. He just wants to persuade everyone to share their inventions with him, without any covert action on his part. For instance, he will lend you e.g. an amount of Bitcoins (BTC) equivalent to several thousand Swiss francs (CHF) if you share inventions worth several million Swiss francs (CHF) with him. He is kind of like Satan – you will truly get what he promised, but the catch lies outside of the deal at hand. That is considerably different from a scammer, even though the other party might be "slightly" shocked. Cheesy Cheesy

Wait, what?
legendary
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quack
Sometimes, I can disagree with TradeFortress' way to do things, and I seriously doubt his judgment over some topics, but as far as I know, he's been fairly careful with security and he's neither a scammer nor a petty blackmailer. Though it doesn't certainly make you look too good taking the bait like this on scamming accusations...  Huh

True.

I must add to this that TF's server got hacked because of a script made by him. Also someone (yes, might be just shill/troll/untrue) accused TF to be a scammer because he was hired to do a web site development and he did it poorly.

The account access requesting at IRC was also very very shady from a guy who is expected to know things about security (as he's a software/website developer). He asked for access to others' #bitcoin-otc accounts.

That's about it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

TF: if you're being accused without a reason, drop the bullshit when replying to them. It makes things complicated and looks like you're trying to hide something.
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TradeFortress is not a scammer. He just wants to persuade everyone to share their inventions with him, without any covert action on his part. For instance, he will lend you e.g. an amount of Bitcoins (BTC) equivalent to several thousand Swiss francs (CHF) if you share inventions worth several million Swiss francs (CHF) with him. He is kind of like Satan – you will truly get what he promised, but the catch lies outside of the deal at hand. That is considerably different from a scammer, even though the other party might be "slightly" shocked. Cheesy Cheesy
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The scammer section of this forum just keeps getting better and better.
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Certified fox posing as a cat posing as a human
Sometimes, I can disagree with TradeFortress' way to do things, and I seriously doubt his judgment over some topics, but as far as I know, he's been fairly careful with security and he's neither a scammer nor a petty blackmailer. Though it doesn't certainly make you look too good taking the bait like this on scamming accusations...  Huh
vip
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I've noticed myself that a lot of people enjoy trolling Trade Fortress. My two satoshis: The guy has always been quite straightforward with me, even went out of his way to help me fix what was a simple mistake on my part on one of his sites. Your mileage may vary, but I have a pretty keen eye for scammers, etc. and he does not strike me as the type to risk his reputation over skiddie shenanigans. I also question why most of the people slinging mud are either tagged as scammers or have very low reputations on this site. Until I am proven wrong, I feel I have no need not to trust someone that is making obvious contributions to the bitcoin community.

Ok due to certain events getting banned from coinchat today I am forced to retract my above statements. A guy that will not stand up for even his little members deserves it I suppose organized trolling and disrpution group. I look forward to seeing what information you can provide, and I am researching all the other leads you provided me in the email. My apologies. I'm really mad that I got banned before I was able to disrupt even more

Strange how quickly people you think you can trust leave you pissing in the wind in this business. banned for doing something wrong.

Best regards. Have fun on coinpr0n, I don't even ..
sr. member
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I was lying

I don't get this thread.
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I don't either, I'm so confused at this point that I'm just going to write this thread off.
vip
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newbie
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1. Buy alt accounts
2. Sell them to you
3. Leave negative reputation

Pretty easy.

Actually it was like this:

1. Buy alt accounts
2. Impersonate a person who was a regular buyer of our accounts and not a seller
3. Use a bitmessage address which that person does not use and send us a message from a different address (obviously)
4. Have absolutely no clue who the person was - he is a hacker lol! of course any accounts he would be selling would be hacked! yet you said you knew nothing about hacking
5. We wonder what your game is knowing its TF and co, so contact you back looking to buy accounts rather than sell them to you to see what your reaction is
6. We buy your accounts for 0.07 (nice deal btw) to see what your trying to pull here
7. We have extra troll accounts and more info on you as the end result, you out 3 alts that you gave us in the first place.

Our plan was to keep in contact with pizza and keep this going we had an actual plan unlike you, but since you want to play it like that then meh!

What were you trying to achieve exactly?
vip
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I'm getting bored. I think I'm going to eat some pizza now.

You think we didn't cop that one from the beginning? We knew 'something' was up, hence why we did what we did with the account just to see what your reaction would be. Thanks for giving that one away so easily!

1. Buy alt accounts
2. Sell them to you
3. Leave negative reputation

Pretty easy.
newbie
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More alts.

var altcount = 9000

altdetect.addEventListener(ALTPHISHER.CREATE, REPFUCK) {
   repfuck;
}

Inb4 someone whines about how it is not proper AS code, yes it is a joke ._.


Your altcount is tad low there Wink
legendary
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More alts.

var altcount = 9000

altdetect.addEventListener(ALTPHISHER.CREATE, REPFUCK) {
   repfuck;
}

Inb4 someone whines about how it is not proper AS code, yes it is a joke ._.
newbie
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http://iplogger.org/1hcq3.jpg
I'm getting bored. I think I'm going to eat some pizza now.

You think we didn't cop that one from the beginning? We knew 'something' was up, hence why we did what we did with the account just to see what your reaction would be. Thanks for giving that one away so easily!
full member
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I'm not on anyone's side here...

Is it just me or does TradeFortress get a lot of Scam Accusations?  What keeps happening that all these pissed off people keep posting these?

Like we have said before, we will be launching a website that explains everything about tradefortress.

We're waiting for him to post what he has on us first, then we will post what we have on him.
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Former curator of The Bitcoin Museum
I'm not on anyone's side here...

Is it just me or does TradeFortress get a lot of Scam Accusations?  What keeps happening that all these pissed off people keep posting these?
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
member
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all those short acronym/abbreviation loaded sentences..

why dont you talk chinese ?

thats not even fun to read
legendary
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How did I not find this earlier?

OP is a faggy alt, kthx
vip
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I'm getting bored. I think I'm going to eat some pizza now.
vip
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Try hacking inputs.io or coinlenders actually.

Oh wait Cheesy

FYI, that's not actually for any of my projects, but I'll let you think whatever you want.

I don't care I already know your a failure, but the public doesn't. If your going to ignore something like that then people are going to fear the worst... Your 'investors' will need to know about this plus many of the other 'incidents' that have happened. Wink

See my previous response Smiley
vip
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Why would I do that? If you got it, post it here!

Lol! why would I do that? Tongue

scotaloo:
25% Google fu skills
50% bluffing
24% hot air
1% chicken
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Try hacking inputs.io or coinlenders actually.

Oh wait Cheesy

FYI, that's not actually for any of my projects, but I'll let you think whatever you want.

I don't care I already know your a failure, but the public doesn't. If your going to ignore something like that then people are going to fear the worst... Your 'investors' will need to know about this plus many of the other 'incidents' that have happened. Wink
vip
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Try hacking inputs.io or coinlenders actually.

Oh wait Cheesy

FYI, that's not actually for any of my projects, but I'll let you think whatever you want.
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TradeFortress, can I ask you where the disclosure of that attack was made? Was it one of your bitcoin websites?
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Why would I do that? If you got it, post it here!

Lol! why would I do that? Tongue
vip
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Why would I do that? If you got it, post it here!
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Sneak preview, check out his OTC, you'll see one in particular that stands out (no that is not us I swear!): http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=tradefortress

Sneak preview number 2: from #ubuntu-server on IRC:

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TradeFortress   I believe my server has being compromised. Apache access.log and error.log is missing Jan 12th   01:04
=== Malediction_ is now known as Malediction
TradeFortress   How do I see if someone actually logged onto my server? access.log has a lot of disconnects from an IP in china   01:07
=== ejnahc_ is now known as ejnahc
ikonia   TradeFortress: then they have not logged in   01:12
TradeFortress   ok, thanks. is there any reason for missing Jan 12th in Apache logs? other than an attacker removed them?   01:13
patdk-lap   isn't the default only weekly rotates?   01:13
PryMar56   TradeFortress, see if they are parsing for php* (blogs,wordpress,sql) setup config files... they will try to get credentials   01:14
TradeFortress   ahh, I'm not running a custom script, I'm running a self developed one (which was hacked)   01:15
ikonia   TradeFortress: if you have any reason to suspect comrpomise, re-install your whole OS resetting all passwords   01:15
TradeFortress   ikonia: I'll do that, but then I'll get attacked again.. can't see how they did it with the logs.   01:16
ikonia   TradeFortress: no,   01:16
patdk-lap   the longs won't show much   01:16
ikonia   TradeFortress: you seem to know what it was already, your script   01:16
patdk-lap   and it might show 1 issue, but not all issues you have   01:16
patdk-lap   expecially if they used POST requests   01:17
TradeFortress   okay, but the attacker somehow got root access..   01:17
ikonia   TradeFortress: delete your OS - re-install   01:18
ikonia   TradeFortress: that is the answer   01:18
patdk-lap   if they got root access you have many levels of issues to correct   01:18
patdk-lap   and the logs won't show that   01:18
TradeFortress   thanks everyone, I'm going to reinstall & look for a pentester

You want this idiot managing your money?
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Yeah, you have my IP address. I'm so scared!

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Have phun bro! hint: you suck at this, like real bad.

I'd say the same for yourself.

Wish all you like, we have more than that sorry to say. If you put up a 100BTC bounty into escrow we will prove it. 100BTC in escrow for full dox, you interested?

I can't wait until you post! seriously!
vip
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Yeah, you have my IP address. I'm so scared!

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Have phun bro! hint: you suck at this, like real bad.

I'd say the same for yourself.
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I'm going to be having some fun adding more of your alts to the mega thread!

Have phun bro! hint: you suck at this, like real bad when you post the thread our response will be "inspirational". I can't wait to tell you what we've been up to.
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No, you don't. You've got quite a few things wrong, but I'm not about to do you the courtesy of pointing them out.

Perhaps, but we got some of it right and this you know.

If I blackmailed ironcross with dox to install teamviewer, then get him to post the evidence Wink - which tells a very different story.

He will post it all when he's up don't worry.
vip
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No, you don't. You've got quite a few things wrong, but I'm not about to do you the courtesy of pointing them out.

If I blackmailed ironcross with dox to install teamviewer, then get him to post the evidence Wink - which tells a very different story.

I'm going to be having some fun adding more of your alts to the mega thread!
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Oh this guy is one sneaky son of a bitch at times! we know what you did, props again bro, thats twice you've done something that would actually help you catch us, now you've got a little bit more information. I'd tip you but boss is gone with the BTC.

It's useless anyways the game is up. We have leverage nao and you know this! Cheesy
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Why would you be so concerned about him posting your dox when they've already been posted months ago? Unless you're not the original heart_mons...

What thread have you been reading? that fact has been well established by now lol! I made the op its a lie, but the rest of the thread isn't... Cheesy
legendary
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brb keeping up with the Kardashians
TradeFortress attempted to force me to install Teamviewer on my PC so that he could and I quote "conduct an investigation". He used my personal information as leverage to try and make me do this. No way was I doing that, he could have installed spyware on my PC.

Mods please ban this guy he's nuts!

Why would you be so concerned about him posting your dox when they've already been posted months ago? Unless you're not the original heart_mons...
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I think I just gave away some of my hand by accident, sneaky trade, I think TradeFortress just realized how many people we were spying on Wink you were warned about IRC in the beginning yet you didn't heed the warning.
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Yes, and your ignore button just got one shade darker. Time for you to create more sockpuppets so you can waste even more of our time.

Make them? it would take too long to build up rep...
donator
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Oops! lol.

BTW, I know this doesn't sound so credible coming from me, but I haven't lied yet and everything (except the occasional troll posting) that I post is the truth, we didn't expect to find all this when we looked into this guy we thought he was pretty legit actually, turns out he's got a very colorful past....


Honesty doesn't seem to be a quality you have or ever will have, welcome to my ignore list.

Before you ignore, question do you trust TradeFortress? keep in mind that what I have said about the kid is completely true and he operates all of his websites with complete anonymity and we have spoken to people who can prove he hes commited fraud using ID's they submitted to coinlenders for loans?


Yes, and your ignore button just got one shade darker. Time for you to create more sockpuppets so you can waste even more of our time.
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This just in: tomorrow a call will be received to Australian police from a man with a distorted voice. He will claim to have planted bombs in his area and have taken hostages, he will demand $15,000 in cash and an armored car, what happens after won't be pretty...

Also, you know when you link people to IRC webchat? make sure you use https and not http Wink that one was too easy if you ask me.
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Then get ironcross360 to post the "evidence" cause I don't extort / blackmail people, unlike you.

Oh it wasn't just him you did this too!
vip
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Keep going wherever you're going, because you're on the wrong track! Grin

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Yeah we figured out you hacked tormail.org too, we're contacting the owner for information to hand over to the AFP.

I must be a 1337 hax0r then Roll Eyes

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And you know the last bit is a complete fucking lie.

Then get ironcross360 to post the "evidence" cause I don't extort / blackmail people, unlike you.
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I don't use IDs to commit fraud except email one of them to your address, [email protected] which you deleted (just like tfinvestigate) Smiley

I don't blackmail people - the most I go is "either you reveal it yoyrself or I'm revealing it".

So all the PayPal accounts you created with various names all belong to you?

Yeah we figured out you probably hacked tormail.org too, we're contacting the owner for information to hand over to the AFP, we're also asking Virwox to be extra vigilant for you because we know what you are up to. When linking to IRC webchat, make sure you link to the https version Wink

And you know the last bit is a complete fucking lie.
vip
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I don't use IDs to commit fraud except email one of them to your address, [email protected] which you deleted (just like tfinvestigate) Smiley

I don't blackmail people - the most I go is "either you reveal it yoyrself or I'm revealing it".
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Is this the account you use for cashing in ASICMINER shares?

Go post the bit messages, that's very funny cause I haven't talked to him through BM ever!

Nah it was a freshie that I exposed by accident. Check the previous rep, no scams here. Oh well.

The kid has the evidence, I thought it was BM, but if you threaten him again I will make life tough for you, thats not cool at all he's an innocent kid!

He will post all the evidence when he wakes up.
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Oops! lol.

BTW, I know this doesn't sound so credible coming from me, but I haven't lied yet and everything (except the occasional troll posting) that I post is the truth, we didn't expect to find all this when we looked into this guy we thought he was pretty legit actually, turns out he's got a very colorful past....


Honesty doesn't seem to be a quality you have or ever will have, welcome to my ignore list.

Before you ignore, question do you trust TradeFortress? keep in mind that what I have said about the kid is completely true and he operates all of his websites with complete anonymity and we have spoken to people who can prove he hes commited fraud using ID's they submitted to coinlenders for loans?
vip
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Is this the account you use for cashing in ASICMINER shares?

Go post the bit messages, that's very funny cause I haven't talked to him through BM ever!
KWH
legendary
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In Collateral I Trust.
Oops! lol.

BTW, I know this doesn't sound so credible coming from me, but I haven't lied yet and everything (except the occasional troll posting) that I post is the truth, we didn't expect to find all this when we looked into this guy we thought he was pretty legit actually, turns out he's got a very colorful past....


Honesty doesn't seem to be a quality you have or ever will have, welcome to my ignore list.
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Yes, he had to post from other accounts as ironcross360 is banned.

I've never blackmailed him. I offered him coins for information, aka a voluntary exchange, and my conditions was that I want messages.DAT or TeamViewer.

He already deleted his messages.dat. We told him to uninstall, remove keys.dat and messages.dat and reinstall because you were 'spying'.

Not like there was anything of use there in the first place so no loss to you...

And thats not what the bitmessages say, you doxxed him and threatened him with his dox, and likely told btcoxygen to say you were dangerous too.

You know he was 14? his parents told the police about this...
vip
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Yes, he had to post from other accounts as ironcross360 is banned.

I've never blackmailed him. I offered him coins for information, aka a voluntary exchange, and my conditions was that I want messages.DAT or TeamViewer.
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Oops! lol.

BTW, I know this doesn't sound so credible coming from me, but I haven't lied yet and everything (except the occasional troll posting) that I post is the truth, we didn't expect to find all this when we looked into this guy we thought he was pretty legit actually, turns out he's got a very colorful past....
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If he did this over PM, please report the PMs and we'll look into it. Thanks!

It wasn't over PM, I was lying it wasn't me, but he did this to a 14 year old, it was over bitmessage so there is cryptographic proof that the messages are real and likely forum PM's from TF giving the guy his BM. I'm going to ask the kid to come forward when he gets online, TF won't do anything silly now that we have him pinned against a wall, we have contacted the AFP but haven't given them everything yet and I'm sure he knows this by now...
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
I don't think this is a scammer case, he didn't trick you in any way that damaged you financially.

*I'm not a mod in this section, the title just caught my attention*
legendary
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Mods please ban this guy he's nuts!
If he did this over PM, please report the PMs and we'll look into it. Thanks!
member
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Someone never heard of user agent switchers Cheesy

Have you looked at my useragent yet? haha, it's pretty phunny if you ask me.
vip
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Someone never heard of user agent switchers Cheesy
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I see you are just dripping with credibility.  Roll Eyes

I don't need credibility, I want him to see that message. He will know if its credible or not.

Anonymous APN's? ugh, please.  Roll Eyes
KWH
legendary
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In Collateral I Trust.
He lives in Thornleigh NSW just outside Sydney and he is a Microshit user. He runs Windows 7 64 bit.

AFP have already been informed all about this person.

I see you are just dripping with credibility.  Roll Eyes
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He lives in Thornleigh NSW just outside Sydney and he is a Microshit user. He runs Windows 7 64 bit. His favorite browser is Firefox though so thats something at least.

AFP and Optus have already been informed all about this person.
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Another alt of BTCTalkAccounts / scotaloo.
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TradeFortress attempted to force me to install Teamviewer on my PC so that he could and I quote "conduct an investigation". He used my personal information as leverage to try and make me do this. No way was I doing that, he could have installed spyware on my PC.

Mods please ban this guy he's nuts!
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