Topic: scientific truth in Qur'an (the sea and the river) (Read 566 times)
Why are you people constantly trying to prove holy booka scientificaly? Just let it be and keep it at that, you just look ridiculous saying things like this, and I always find it stupid...
There are nothing scientific in Quran. It is just a bible re-written by Arabs. Just like Torah rewritten by Jews.
It is just a basic ethics book for the standards of those past days, which is obselete by now.
It is just a basic ethics book for the standards of those past days, which is obselete by now.
The qur'an also talks about Mohamed riding a winged horse to heaven. Is that science too?
All holly books is BS then you read them and not just cherry picking
All holly books is BS then you read them and not just cherry picking
But they will claim it was "a miracle!"
It's really bizarre, the way this whole "pick and choose" thing works in religion. The obvious conclusion to this thread being, the book is vague and can be interpreted in many ways, however, you have a clear bias that cannot be hid when you claim that a book written centuries ago would be in terms with modern science.
The qur'an also talks about Mohamed riding a winged horse to heaven. Is that science too?
All holly books is BS then you read them and not just cherry picking
All holly books is BS then you read them and not just cherry picking
i dont belive such thing. some people must have added such verses to koran. I am sure that koran contains lots of doctored verses like that. humanity must believe scientific truths not so called holy verses in koran, bible or any other religious books.
Hello Hirose,
I want to let you know that I am a former Muslim who has done extensive research in this area, and, like you, at one point, wrote a lot of internet articles about it as well. The reason why these verses sound "miraculous" or "magical" is because of the value you give to them because of your attachment to the Qur'an as a significant religious and cultural text of yours. Occam's Razor would tell us to assume no more than what is stated in the verse. We wouldn't know if its referring to surface tension unless it specifically refers to surface tension. Furthermore, there are numerous instances where the Qur'an was not scientifically consistent, but such verses are neglected or attributed to mistranslations.
I want to let you know that I am a former Muslim who has done extensive research in this area, and, like you, at one point, wrote a lot of internet articles about it as well. The reason why these verses sound "miraculous" or "magical" is because of the value you give to them because of your attachment to the Qur'an as a significant religious and cultural text of yours. Occam's Razor would tell us to assume no more than what is stated in the verse. We wouldn't know if its referring to surface tension unless it specifically refers to surface tension. Furthermore, there are numerous instances where the Qur'an was not scientifically consistent, but such verses are neglected or attributed to mistranslations.
And a broken clock is right twice a day.
Hello Hirose,
I want to let you know that I am a former Muslim who has done extensive research in this area, and, like you, at one point, wrote a lot of internet articles about it as well. The reason why these verses sound "miraculous" or "magical" is because of the value you give to them because of your attachment to the Qur'an as a significant religious and cultural text of yours. Occam's Razor would tell us to assume no more than what is stated in the verse. We wouldn't know if its referring to surface tension unless it specifically refers to surface tension. Furthermore, there are numerous instances where the Qur'an was not scientifically consistent, but such verses are neglected or attributed to mistranslations.
I want to let you know that I am a former Muslim who has done extensive research in this area, and, like you, at one point, wrote a lot of internet articles about it as well. The reason why these verses sound "miraculous" or "magical" is because of the value you give to them because of your attachment to the Qur'an as a significant religious and cultural text of yours. Occam's Razor would tell us to assume no more than what is stated in the verse. We wouldn't know if its referring to surface tension unless it specifically refers to surface tension. Furthermore, there are numerous instances where the Qur'an was not scientifically consistent, but such verses are neglected or attributed to mistranslations.
Qur’ān on Seas and Rivers
Modern Science has discovered that in the places where two different seas meet, there is a barrier
between them. This barrier divides the two seas so that each sea has its own temperature, salinity,
and density.10 For example, Mediterranean sea water is warm, saline, and less dense, compared to
Atlantic ocean water. When Mediterranean sea water enters the Atlantic over the Gibraltar sill, it
moves several hundred kilometres into the Atlantic at a depth of about 1000 meters with its own
warm, saline, and less dense characteristics. The Mediterranean water stabilises at this depth11.
Although there are large waves, strong currents and tides in these seas, they do not mix or trans-
gress this barrier.
The Qur’ān mentioned that there is a barrier between two seas that meet and that they do not
transgress. God has said:
“He released the two seas, meeting [side by side]; Between them is a
barrier [so] neither of them transgresses.”
Translation of
Qur’ān 55:19-20
But when the Qur’ān speaks about the divider between fresh and salt water, it mentions the exis-
tence of “a forbidding partition” with the barrier. God has said in the Qur’ān:
"And it is He who has released [simultaneously] the two seas, one fresh and sweet
and one salty and bitter, and He placed between them a barrier and prohibiting
partition.”
Translation of Qur’ān 25:53
One may ask, why did the Qur’ān mention the partition when speaking about the divider between
fresh and salt water, but did not mention it when speaking about the divider between the two
seas?
Modern science has discovered that in estuaries, where fresh (sweet) and salt water meet, the
situation is somewhat different from what is found in places where two seas meet. It has been
discovered that what distinguishes fresh water from salt water in estuaries is a “pycnocline zone
with a marked density discontinuity separating the two layers.”12 This partition (zone of separa-
tion) has a different salinity from the fresh water and from the salt water.
This information has been discovered only recently, using advanced equipment to measure tem-
perature, salinity, density, oxygen dissolubility, etc. The human eye cannot see the difference be-
tween the two seas that meet, rather the two seas appear to us as one homogeneous sea. Like-
wise, the human eye cannot see the division of water in estuaries into the three kinds: fresh water,
salt water and the partition (zone of separation).
Allahu Akbar. Wallahu a'lam.
Modern Science has discovered that in the places where two different seas meet, there is a barrier
between them. This barrier divides the two seas so that each sea has its own temperature, salinity,
and density.10 For example, Mediterranean sea water is warm, saline, and less dense, compared to
Atlantic ocean water. When Mediterranean sea water enters the Atlantic over the Gibraltar sill, it
moves several hundred kilometres into the Atlantic at a depth of about 1000 meters with its own
warm, saline, and less dense characteristics. The Mediterranean water stabilises at this depth11.
Although there are large waves, strong currents and tides in these seas, they do not mix or trans-
gress this barrier.
The Qur’ān mentioned that there is a barrier between two seas that meet and that they do not
transgress. God has said:
“He released the two seas, meeting [side by side]; Between them is a
barrier [so] neither of them transgresses.”
Translation of
Qur’ān 55:19-20
But when the Qur’ān speaks about the divider between fresh and salt water, it mentions the exis-
tence of “a forbidding partition” with the barrier. God has said in the Qur’ān:
"And it is He who has released [simultaneously] the two seas, one fresh and sweet
and one salty and bitter, and He placed between them a barrier and prohibiting
partition.”
Translation of Qur’ān 25:53
One may ask, why did the Qur’ān mention the partition when speaking about the divider between
fresh and salt water, but did not mention it when speaking about the divider between the two
seas?
Modern science has discovered that in estuaries, where fresh (sweet) and salt water meet, the
situation is somewhat different from what is found in places where two seas meet. It has been
discovered that what distinguishes fresh water from salt water in estuaries is a “pycnocline zone
with a marked density discontinuity separating the two layers.”12 This partition (zone of separa-
tion) has a different salinity from the fresh water and from the salt water.
This information has been discovered only recently, using advanced equipment to measure tem-
perature, salinity, density, oxygen dissolubility, etc. The human eye cannot see the difference be-
tween the two seas that meet, rather the two seas appear to us as one homogeneous sea. Like-
wise, the human eye cannot see the division of water in estuaries into the three kinds: fresh water,
salt water and the partition (zone of separation).
Allahu Akbar. Wallahu a'lam.
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