Topic: Sea Piracy, it's effect on the local economy (Read 735 times)

First, tell us who attacked Yemen and when. Do you mean the events of 2024-2015 and the Arab coalition operation in Yemen? I’m interested in what happened then from your point of view and who had and has the right to self-defense there. After all, then it turns out that bank robbers have the right to self-defense, but the police are stopping them from freely robbing banks and thus fighting for social justice?

The Houthis continue to attack civilian and military ships of different states in the Red Sea and seem to deliberately want a series of good strikes to be carried out on them or a military operation to destroy them, when the civilian population will also suffer from this. After all, they can achieve practically nothing by their actions to impede maritime navigation in this region. But the international community will not tolerate their piracy for long either.

Let's talk about double standards, good topic

1. Ukraine has become a victim of terrorist aggression of an international terrorist country led by an international criminal - Russia. Ukraine has the full, LEGAL right to destroy any objects and living force of the terrorist/criminal, both on its territory and on the territory of the terrorist's country (Russia), which it successfully does. Today the most important airfield of strategic aviation in Engelsk was attacked, and yesterday several more populated areas were liberated from the Kremlin junta )
2. Yemeni Hussites, who illegally seized a part of the country, are supported (or rather hand dogs) by the Iranian terrorist regime, and are shelling CIVIL ships of third countries. They commit terrorist acts and kill civilians. And they cover themselves with the fact that "Israel attacked Gaza" and they take revenge on all those who support Israel. But only the terrorists Hussites, habitually forget that Hamas and citizens of Gaza - committed a terrorist attack on Israel, which provoked Israel to take measures to protect its territory and destroy the terrorists, which is also quite legal.

What do you want to say about double standards? 

Exactly!

You seem to not have read my entire post or the past couple of comments in this topic. I'm not asking "why Ukraine attacked Russian targets", I'm just questioning the double standard.

When country A attacks country B, that is declaration of war against a nation and it turns all assets of country A into legitimate targets for country B. That's the standard that has to be applied for everyone or no one; not just for few select countries!
Nobody can claim that this standard is applicable only when country B is Ukraine and is not applicable when country B is Yemen.

IMO, I don't think so. Piracy severely disrupts trade, driving up the costs of goods, hindering investment, and creating an unstable economic environment. This directly harms businesses and jeopardizes legitimate livelihoods like fishing and tourism. Additionally, ransom payments primarily enrich pirates and fund criminal networks, not whole communities. This money can fuel further violence and instability, hindering the development of sustainable local economies.

Ukraine has been subjected to a large-scale attack by the Russian army and has been defending itself for the third year from continuous attacks from all types of weapons on both military and civilian targets. Russia is trying to seize the territory of Ukraine and destroy it as a state and Ukrainians as a nation. At the same time, Ukraine has the right to active defense, that is, the right to strike military targets, as well as dual-use objects on the territory of Russia itself.

Thus, on August 5, 2023, the SBU, together with the Ukrainian Navy, launched a surface drone attack on the large Russian tanker Sig., which was under US sanctions due to the supply of aviation fuel from Crimea to Syria. The incident occurred at a distance of 32 miles from the Kerch Strait, that is, in the internationally recognized territorial waters of Ukraine. The ship received a hole in the area of the engine room - water was pumped out of it, and it remained afloat.
As noted in Ukraine, the damage to the Sig tanker is a symmetrical response to Russia’s attempts to block shipping to Ukrainian ports and stop grain transportation. But first of all, this tanker was used for military purposes and was in the territorial waters of Ukraine.
https://24tv.ua/ru/ataka-tanker-sig-kakuju-polzu-dlja-ukrainy-imejut-zatoplenie_n2366650

Regarding the other vessels you listed, more information needs to be provided about such attacks.

On the night of December 30, the Ukrainian Defense Forces launched about 70 drones and missiles into the Belgorod region. However, unlike the occupiers, Ukrainian soldiers attacked not civilian, but exclusively military targets of the enemy, from where, in particular, Russia regularly attacks Ukraine, primarily Kharkov, with S-300 missiles. But the Russians launch their missiles from an airfield east of Belgorod, and in order to destroy the missile launchers, Ukrainian missiles and drones must first fly through the city of Belgorod. But the valiant Russian air defense shot them down over Belgorod and as a result, it was the fragments of missiles and drones that fell in the city and caused destruction and death of civilians. There were no large holes in the city from the explosions of the missiles or drones themselves.
The Russian Ministry of Defense first reported that all Ukrainian missiles and drones were shot down by air defense, and when information began to arrive about what the falling debris had done, they began to delete this information. Subsequently, the Russian Ministry of Defense nevertheless admitted that the death of civilians in Belgorod was the result of the work of Russian air defense, since downed missiles and their parts fell in residential areas.

At the same time, bomb shelters in the city were closed.


Later, the Russian Ministry of Defense tried to justify themselves for such air defense work: they say, if not for the “accuracy” of Russian military personnel, the Belgorod residents would have suffered much more. They even came up with the idea that the Ukrainian military allegedly hit Belgorod with “cluster munitions.”
https://war.obozrevatel.com/v-belgorode-progremeli-desyatki-vzryivov-silyi-oboronyi-atakovali-voennyie-obektyi-vraga-rossijskaya-pvo-ustroila-zhitelyam-goroda-ad-video.htm

https://uatv.ua/otvet-ot-vsu-samoobstrely-i-neprofessionalizm-pvo-rf-vzryvy-v-belgorode-obsuzhdaem-s-ekspertami/

You can choose to view history from a certain point to justify a certain fake narrative but that doesn't change facts. For example I could choose to look at the history from 30 December 2023 when Ukraine shelled Belgorod killing civilians including 5 children and claim Russia is just responding to terrorist attacks!!! But that doesn't change the fact that history didn't begin on 30 December 2023, it started in 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea and ~2 years ago when the full scale invasion began.
You see how easy it is to create a fake narrative or should I give you more examples?

It's exactly the same with both Yemen and Palestine. If you choose to see the history from October 7, of course the fake narrative seems reasonable. But the history didn't begin 150 days ago. It started 75 years ago when Palestine was invaded and occupied. October 7 retaliation is the result of thousands of women and children having been taken hostage to be tortured, killed and their organs harvested for sale on black markets inside Israeli prisons for the past couple of years!!
The Zionist terrorists have been doing the organ harvesting even more since October 7 https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/5982/Int%E2%80%99l-committee-must-investigate-Israel%E2%80%99s-holding-of-dead-bodies-in-Gaza%E2%80%8B

It's the same with Yemen, you choose to see the history from 4 months ago and believe in a fake narrative but that war began about 10 years ago when the US-Saudi coalition decided to invade Yemen and annex all of it.
All assets of invaders are legitimate targets just like the way Ukraine is attacking all assets of its own invaders.

Again I'm still curious why you think it's OK for Ukrainian to attack assets of their invaders:
- SGV-Flot, oil tanker attacked by a Ukrainian missile
- Seraphim Sarovskiy attacked by a Ukrainian missile
- Lady Anastasia, a luxury yacht with an attempted scuttling
- Sig, a tanker attacked by a Ukrainian unmanned boat
- a lot more mine attacks...
But not for others to attack the assets of their invaders?!!

Any shipping routes that are crossing Mediterranean and the Horn of Africa aren't as infested of pirates like back then, the pirate attacks have migrated around Indian Ocean I think and although they've done some changes, they're not as hurtful to the global economy and logistics as they are back then, NATO's Ocean Shield and other government operations that involves the protection of shipping routes from pirates have been helping a lot when it comes to this kinds of attack, there's also the fact that shipping companies have learned that there's ways that they can combat these pirates since those government protections aren't going to be with them all around.

The only good thing with sea piracy is that you feel like living in a dream, hunting down pirates and being with them just makes your blood boil from the excitement.

No, what's happening in Yemen is that a terrorist group is hitting civilians ships, too afraid to attack military targets and has only managed to
- sink a Lebanese ship, so probably Hezbollah is trilled
- damage a Swiss owned vessel transporting stuff from India to Turkey

They also destroyed
- 24 Nimitz-class aircraft carriers
- 2 C-709 Longsword Interceptor
- 12 V-19 Torrent starfighter
- 3 Venator-class Star Destroyer
- 18 X-Wing Starfighters
- MSZ-010 Double Zeta Gundams
- 22 Musai-class cruiser
- 14 Dodai YS bombers
and the mandatory
100 detahs stars

Meanwhile another chief of the terrorist IRCG group was sent to meet his virgins alongside the biggest terrorist in the world Soleimani, who was packed so nice for the after life that true Iranians are making fun of it renaming the day Kotlet day!

Also, IRCG is an international recognized terrorist group, and this is a US forum, so keep your terrorist propaganda to yourself unless you purposely want to get this forum in trouble!

Ukraine did not attack Russia. It was Russia in 2014, with the help of its armed forces, that captured the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, as well as parts of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions. But this was not enough for the Kremlin, and on February 24, 2022, Russia attacked the borders of Ukraine from the north, east and south with the forces of its eight armies, giving them the task of approaching the outskirts of Kyiv by 9-10 a.m. The Russian army actually approached Kyiv, and separate assault detachments penetrated into Kyiv itself. Therefore, Ukraine had the full right to self-defense, which implies the destruction of the invaders and its military equipment both on the territory of Ukraine itself and on the territory of Russia, from where the attack was launched, as well as the destruction of ammunition and fuel warehouses, any factories and enterprises that manufacture or serve the Russian occupation army, as well as logistics routes for their supply for waging war in Ukraine. Therefore, Ukrainians cannot be considered terrorists, and the Russian army, which for the third year now has been attacking civilian settlements and the civilian population of Ukraine with all types of missiles, bombs, shells, as well as drones, are undoubtedly terrorists. It was for the shelling of the civilian population of Ukraine and their homes, as well as the energy infrastructure of Ukraine, that the International Criminal Court in The Hague (ICC) yesterday issued international arrest warrants for the commander of long-range aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces Sergei Kobylash and the commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet Viktor Sokolov.
https://www.bbc.com/russian/articles/c884l4n8n90o

The situation with Ukraine is radically different from the situation with the Yemeni Houthis and their shelling of ships in the Red Sea. No one attacked Yemen or the Houthis themselves. But for some reason they believe that they have the right to fire at and sink merchant ships in the international waters of the Red Sea as a sign of solidarity with the Hamas organization, which attacked Israel on October 7, killing and taking hostage many civilians.

Thus, two cargo ships in the Red Sea came under fire from Yemen on December 15. The container ship Al Jasra, sailing under the Liberian flag from Greece to Singapore, was attacked by either a drone or a ballistic missile, according to the shipping journal Maritime Bulletin. A fire broke out on the ship and at least one container fell into the water.
Later, another missile hit another container ship, the MSC Palatium III, also under the Liberian flag, sailing from Mozambique to Saudi Arabia. A fire broke out there too and was put out. No casualties were reported.
Later in the Yemeni capital Sanaa, at a press conference, Houthi spokesman Yehia Sariya said that the rebels were taking responsibility for the attacks. Maritime Bulletin notes that Al Jasra is owned by the German company Hapaq Lloyd AG, and Palatium III is owned by the Swiss MSC. Neither the companies themselves nor the ship routes are associated with Israel.
https://www.svoboda.org/a/yemenskie-husity-obstrelyali-dva-korablya-v-krasnom-more/32732301.html

On February 18, the Houthis fired rockets and sank the Rubymar, which eventually sank in the southern Red Sea. The ship was carrying about 21 thousand metric tons of fertilizer. Now Yemen has an environmental disaster on its shores.
https://zn.ua/WORLD/utoplennyj-khusitami-korabl-predstavljaet-ekolohicheskuju-uhrozu-dlja-krasnoho-morja.html

I'm curious to know whether you think Ukrainians are terrorists for attacking Russia and Russian assets? Because that's pretty much what's happening in Yemen.

It is not Houthis, it is Ansarollah aka the legitimate government of Yemen.
They are also not randomly attacking any ship.

• After Israel began genocide of Palestinians, Ansarollah initially closed their territorial waters to any vessel belonging to or heading towards this terrorist organization committing genocide, according to international laws.
• Then United States created the Coalition of Terror in support of that terrorist organization to open the route so that weapons and supplies could reach Israeli terrorists so that they can continue committing genocide.
• Then the Coalition of Terror invaded Yemeni soil (air raids and missile attacks) and bombed civilians and civilian structures which meant US and its Coalition of Terror became a legitimate targets.
• In retaliation the armed forces of Yemen started attacking US and its coalition naval forces (they've already incapacitated multiple American and British warships like the British destroyer called HMS Diamond) and their other vessels.
  
  They are also not using "rockets", these are highly advanced and sophisticated anti ship ballistic and cruise missiles used in defense of Yemen and in support of Palestine.

In the case of the Houthis, it is much more complex than primitive attacks by loosely organized pirates on merchant ships using motor boats. The Houthis are firing rockets and drones at ships in the Red Sea from Yemeni territory, where they have long been established. Each such shelling is a terrorist act and the country from whose territory the missiles and drones are launched is responsible. In this case, it will be ineffective to only defend against incoming missiles and drones. It is necessary to destroy the launch platforms and the missiles and drones themselves in their storage areas.

The Yemeni government should be warned that if they cannot restore order themselves, then these places will be hit accordingly. I think that’s what the US and UK did before attacking Houthi missile launchers and storage depots. Yemen is now experiencing an environmental disaster off its shores due to the sinking of the Rubymar ship, which was carrying fertilizers, as a result of a Houthi missile attack, and a fuel oil spill.

I don't believe it would be so easy as we initially assume it would be, though. In order to fight piracy, the government of the interested country would need to invest a ton of money in vessels with military capabilities and also they would need to keep those vessels equipped with weapons and fuel for military to guard the coasts of Africa. It is not an easy task, it is actually a logistics challenge.
What I have seen corporations do to safeguard their vessels is keeping weapons on board and even attached to the vessel, so they can shoot close to the boats of the pirates and persuade them from getting close enough to get on board, though, the pirates know about this tactic and know those in the big cargo are unlikely to shoot directly at them first. So the rush for the ladders and get it.

I have read for those people who get involved in piracy, it is very tempting to do so, there have been cases of pirates becoming millionaires and being able to keep several wives after only one successful heist against an international vessel. For that kind of quality of life, they are willing to risk their integrity.

The problem of government corruption in Nigeria is first and foremost a problem for the Nigerian people. After all, other states do not have the right to interfere in the internal affairs of Nigeria. You say that out of desperation, in order to somehow get involved, Nigerians commit crimes. Why don't they unite and kick out their corrupt government? If they lack intelligence and courage, then such a people are doomed to such a miserable existence. Nigerians have themselves to blame for this, but attacking others in the process is reckless and stupid in every way.

Terrorist gangs like the Houthis and their cowardly masters (like the Iranian regime) are framing the Houthis. They will now be given some time to "prove themselves". By doing so, they will sign their "death sentence" - a terrorist group that disrupts civil transportation, endangering the lives of citizens of different countries..... And that's it ! There were the Hussites and there are no more Hussites. Playing with other people's lives is a favorite game of cowardly totalitarian terrorist regimes. I hope the not very smart "puppets" of their games will realize this at some point....

PS Does everyone know who suffered the biggest losses from the idiotic terrorist attacks of the Hussites ?

IMO government can solve the problem of sea pirates easily if they wanted to, unless someone is also benefiting from their actions, we well know how big business men and crime syndicate s bribe government officials from time to time, and no one can justify kidnapping and stealing as a means to and end for poverty cause at the end of the day they are clearly harming the wrong people, if only they could direct the aggression towards the government then they would have gotten some development by now.

The main problem behind this, is corrupt governments. Take Nigeria as an example, they are a Oil rich country and the citizens should flourish, but most of those riches are wasted on a few government fat cats and their friend and family.

Yesterday, loads of people were trampled to death in Lagos, because the Nigerian custom service paused the sale of seized bags of RICE. 

People will turn to crime to survive.. and the criminals are stealing at the top and turning a blind eye to the pirates that are attacking ships on the trade routes.

Maritime piracy also has another negative side. This is a threat of environmental disaster in the region.
Yemeni authorities are now seeking international assistance after a Houthi missile hit the UK-registered cargo ship Rubymar in the Red Sea on February 18, while it was carrying
fertilizers - 22,000 tons of sulfoammophos from Saudi Arabia to Bulgaria. Rubymar has hull damage in the main engine area and is already polluting surrounding waters with fuel oil leaks. The Yemeni government called for help to prevent a potential environmental disaster and in an official statement condemned the Houthi attack, which caused extensive damage before 24 crew members were evacuated. A drifting ship is heading towards Yemen's Hanish Islands in the Red Sea.

Later, information also appeared that the cargo ship Rubymar sank after all.

Houthi attacks on shipping in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden have increased since November 19, 2023. Since then, there have been 48 attacks and at least 11 ships damaged.

https://zn.ua/amp/WORLD/v-jemene-khotjat-predotvratit-ekolohicheskuju-katastrofu-khusity-popali-v-sukhohruz-s-udobrenijami-iz-saudovskoj-aravii.html

https://unn.ua/ru/amp/britanskii-korabl-posle-napadeniya-khusitov-tonet-v-krasnom-more

Maritime piracy is a “light version” of terrorism on the water. And as we know, terrorism is a variant of the “bastard business.” Let me explain why! Because classic business uses the labor of hired workers who create added value, and terrorism uses the LIVES of both the supporters-executors of the terrorist ideology and their victims. At the same time, the “cream” is skimmed not by those who put on a suicide bomber’s belt, or go out to sea to attack a civilian ship, but those who live in luxurious houses have servants, all the requisites of a rich and prosperous life, and huge reserves of money. Because they are not in a hurry to reach the “72 Furies”, but want to live well-fed, richly and happily in this world, and create the same conditions for their children and loved ones. At the expense of the LIVES of those who are subject to their propaganda and indoctrination. By the way, this is why the leaders of such groups/regimes are categorically against progress, education, and freedoms - they need an undeveloped, backward population, because such a society is most susceptible to propaganda and indoctrination, even the most idiotic ideas

I agree that piracy in any case negatively affects the image and economy of the countries where this illegal fishing is carried out. Areas where piracy is recorded try to bypass merchant ships, which means states there will lose profits from a decrease in the number of trade transactions.

Piracy is not carried out by the state, but by individuals. Today they can capture a merchant ship, and tomorrow they will attack the decoy ship and destroy all the pirates. After all, international society will not tolerate such facts of open violence for a long time. Piracy must be fought extremely harshly, and if you try to attack merchant ships, everyone must simply be destroyed. This is the only way to restore order and calm in such regions.

That's a good point about resource, this is indeed a growing concern and it is global. As the (human) population grows and in cases the fish population shrinks, fishermen will start venturing further and sometimes in other territorial waters. For example we've seen clashes between England and France over fishing rights and they've seized other country's fishing boats in the past too.

There are satellites 🛰️ and drones. I suspect that pirates could be crushed if governments want to do it.

But they allow it for their own agendas.

As reality has shown, maritime terrorism, in the specific case at hand, has brought 3 global problems:
1. Disruption of global shipping routes from Asia to Europe. This will affect logistics costs, and ultimately the cost of goods. The approximate increase in cost could be around 10-15%. These costs will be borne by the buyers. But will not bankrupt them.
2. The real losers are...the COUNTRIES OF REGION where maritime terrorism is now taking place. I.e. essentially "shooting yourself in the foot", well, or your neighbor's foot
3. And about good - judging by everything we will soon see a tangible response to the terror of pirates, both themselves and their puppeteers. Hopefully this will lead to peace for many decades in the region

The difference is that it's the typical gorilla tactic but in a sea theme instead. Look at USA, are they weak nation in military world? Of course not, they are the biggest nation in the world when we are talking about military, in fact, if we removed nuclear weapons from the world today, they could bulldoze China and Russia together, and yes some Russians and Chinese people (or their fans) will argue against it, but we are talking about multiple times more soldiers and nearly 20 times the finance compared to both combined, so if they do fail, that has to be because they did something dumb, no worries though nuclear weapons prevents that.

All in all, Vietnam still prevailed. Because of gorilla war, and that's the trouble with sea, these are just few people with boats, how can you stop them all at the same time?

Sea piracy has a detrimental effect on local economies. It disrupts trade routes, increases shipping costs, deters investment & tourism, reduces business activity & hampers livelihood opportunities. Coastal communities suffer from economic instability, higher security costs & limited growth prospects. Governments divert resources from development initiatives to enhance maritime security. Sea piracy undermines economic growth, stability & prosperity in affected areas.

I agree with this. Not like this is the only reason why sea piracy thrives but it's part of the reason.
These pirates don't have money to buy ships, boats, guns and ammunition, they're given to them by other people. People that have a share in the business. They have people in high places that sponsor them and give them orders and information. When these orders are coming from the top, it becomes very difficult to battle except you can cut off the hesdbof the snake. And even if you cut off the headbof the snake, another snake will just take over his place because there is money to be made and that seat is vacant.

Another reason I believe ses piracy thrives is because it doesn't directly affect the people in power that havebthe authority to do something about it. They don't care because it's not happening to them. If that route was the route the president of the country uses daily or regularly, it would as safe as possible.

Piracy and economic growth are not at all the same thing. Pirates do bring in money for local economies, but at what cost? It's only a temporary fix for bigger social and economic problems that won't last. Legal trade is important for a healthy economy, but piracy hurts it. Piracy hurts trust in these important shipping routes by blocking them, which forces ships to take longer, more expensive routes. This makes global trade more expensive. Is this really a "solution"?

Also, think about the effects on the sailors and their families, like the mental pain and physical risks. Is their pain a reasonable price to pay for economic growth? Without a doubt not. We need to change the story. It's not a matter of picking between poor and piracy. It's about giving these towns economic options that will work in the long term. These are the paths we should be looking into: working together with other countries, having proper fishing rights, and making new jobs. A long-term answer that gets to the root of the problem is more important than quick wins that are based on blood and fear

I agree that maritime transportation is a cost-effective way to import and export goods. It's unfortunate that piracy and shipwrecks have caused financial losses for shipping companies.
However, it's encouraging to hear that advanced security systems are being implemented to minimize pirate attacks. Technological advancements will continue to play a crucial role in ensuring the safety and efficiency of sea transportation.

the piracy in the regions that OP mentioned is politically driven since it is allegedly supported by Iran, especially the Houthis rebels in Yemen who recently just shot a ship with their missile.

the Djibotis are on the other side which are also up to no good in this passage. if the ships will decide not to pass in the Red Sea to go around Europe, their supply chain will be delayed for almost a month. consequently, this will affect the supplies in our supermarkets thus indirectly affecting the local economy.

There will be always several people who will need resources and will rely on illegal activities like sea piracy. Not only the naval forces that scare them to start piracy but also the fact that even the crew itself has self-defense weapons such as guns, spikes, etc. which the pirates lack resources for them to enter the ship for looting. Just ordinary fishermen with a lack of experience in battle, since most of the terrorist who are using them lacks the number of men even kids take them as part of their men. Plus some of them are being blackmailed so they have no choice but to agree or else they will be killed. It is really hard to find a solution to this since the root of this problem probably would be poverty and almost every country in the world experience it.

Piracy isn't that profitable anymore, UN or was it NATO have launched the operation Ocean Shield to protect cargo ships from pirates and so far it's effective because piracy rates in the hotbeds of piracy are lowering throughout the years and not to mention that cargo companies are investing in security be it the soft kind of security like barbwires or anti rope railings to lethal security like guards armed to the tooth or mercenaries with their own boats to guide these cargo ships, it's a bad time to be a pirate right now even if we believe it to be a good way to improve the economy of the pirate's country of origin. Most of the money that they're getting isn't going back to the economy, most likely it goes back to guns, drugs and other contrabands.

I believe that piracy still thrives on the ocean because there are powerful individuals that benefits from the criminal activities, if it's not so then the illegal and criminal business will not still be active today, because most of these countries have naval forces that can combat these criminals. Most of these pirates might have been ordinary fishermen that were brainwashed and trained into carrying arms and terrorising genuine ship crews who are doing their legitimate businesses. You'd wonder who arms them with sophisticated weapons and teaches them the commando styles of seizing ships and kidnapping their crews for ransom. Most crimes of theses magnitudes are highly organized, so there has to be deeper questions to be answered in order to find a lasting solution to the menace of these pirates, if not I think that it'll continue business as usual.

What are you talking about?! You can't talk about China like that! Or you'll get to the point that in China Muslims are persecuted ! And this is a completely different case, so what if more than a million Muslims are persecuted OPENLY and LAWFULLY ! In Hamas propaganda methodology it is written "in everything everywhere and always Jews are to blame, others are not to blame", remember, you can't think otherwise ! And if others torture Muslims, especially if they are tortured and persecuted in China - then they are wrong Muslims, and their fate "fighters against Israel" are not interested in
Or maybe you can say that Chinese seiners steal the most fish in the coastal zone of the African continent ? Or that Chinese companies have been plundering the resources of African countries for more than 10 years ? Fi how ugly it is to think like that ! You can't think like that - tell everyone that these are Israeli seiners and companies. Hamas never lies or cheats ! 
Or you must be a supporter of Israel too 

The good thing is that it seems that the time of the terrorist groups of the Hussites is running out. And most will end their lives unexpectedly.... Waiting for unexpected "greetings" from the U.S. Navy

PS According to Hamas propaganda - Iran and their terrorist accomplices have long ago easily and guaranteed to destroy all US Navy ships   

Ironic point I have to make about piracy in effect is the theft of sea fish stock by sovereign nations far out weighs the damage done by tribal groups with fast boats and guns.     Primarily I would use China as an example because they have been known to take over the coast line fishing of East Africa, due to their ongoing wars and lack of personal representation or a strong navy the nations there see a continual raiding of their natural resources by boats thousands of miles from home.   Somalia or similar countries then have a problem with poverty, a civil war situation and an excessive amount of guns with no governmental control; all these factors breed the problem of piracy and violence vs ships passing nearby to the nation even in international waters.

BP has stopped all shipping in the Red sea in light of repeated attacks on shipping and increased danger in the region.   Its bad news for everyone in the end as it will raise prices and cost of insurance to operate as well as endanger long suffering crew who have no larger part in the actions.

What this doesn't work?


Work everytime...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4mTRSRtr4E

We've got more bad news for the apartheid regime occupying Palestine and its Zionist supporters as more people around the world are starting to refer to Israel as a terrorist organization. The most recent one was the head of the Catholic Church, Pope Francis when he refers to Israel's actions against Palestinians as terrorism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXHte30VVqE

On another bad news for Zionists, we now know that the Armed Forces of Yemen successfully prevented all shipments being sent to the terrorist organization commonly known as Israel over the past couple of weeks.
And as we can see from the live maps from https://www.marinetraffic.com/ the maritime traffic passing through Yemenis waters, Red Sea and Suez Canal are normal like they've always been. The only change is the shipments that are headed for the terrorist organization have to go around the African continent and face actual sea pirates.

3 news on the topic:
1. The greatest harm from the terrorism of the Yemeni Houthis, has come not from Israel but ... EGYPT ! As a beneficiary of the passage of merchant ships, through the Suez Canal, where traffic is greatly reduced due to risks and companies choose the route around the African continent.
2. the good news is that the US has decided to clean up the Red Sea. Perhaps at the same time and restore lawful order in Yemen, after the destruction of terrorist gangs.
3. Iran will lose another of its "terrorist nurturers" and the opportunity to negatively influence the region.

Very often there is a link between the wealth of a region and the low levels of criminality there, and this is because if everyone benefits from the system in place, it is for the best of everyone living there to follow the rules and keep things going.

However if there is a high criminality on a specific region, and what you have worked so hard to make can be stolen from you by a thug, what is the purpose of working so hard when you can lose everything in seconds? So this is a massive obstacle to the development of the economy there, and while piracy can bring some short term profits to whoever decides to perform this activity, not only the short term costs can be very high, like being jailed, maimed or killed, but the long term costs are very high as well, therefore we must think of it as a crime that benefits no one, including the people directly involved on it that may seem to benefit from it.

 

You are very bad at manipulating information, have you not been told ?

You haven't cited a single document that explicitly states the ACKNOWLEDGEMENT that Israel is an aggressor country and is implementing the concept of apartheid. There is a vague wording. I hope you understand the difference between e.g. a theorem and an axiom ? between an assumption/assumption and a clear recognition. Again, re-read what you cited and point out the line where Israel is clearly defined and recognized as what you want it to be ?
And again - give a clear definition of apartheid, and show how that description "overlaps" with Israel ? With the facts that Palestinians/Arabs and other peoples live, coexist, work and use common stores, hospitals, schools. I'm going to assume that you just couldn't understand what apartheid is and you were just told in propaganda and you keep repeating it. It's like Russian propaganda since 2014 tried to put into your heads that for example in Ukraine there is a Nazi regime, xenophobia, persecution on the national and linguistic principle.  
By the way, here's another FACT: after Israel was recognized as a state, neighboring Arab countries began to expel Jews from their countries on the basis of nationality. Examples (country/number of Jews before 1948/number of Jews):
Mapoккo/265.000/2.000
Algeria/140,000/1,000
Tunisia/150,000/150
Libya/38,000/0
Egypt/75,000/500
Yemen/55,000/100
Iraq/150,000/50
Syria/40.000/0
Lebanon/20,000/100
...
Care to tell us about the apartheid regime in these countries ? Or "that's different"?

At this time - at the beginning of May 2022 - the population of Israel was 9,506,000, of which 73.9% were Jews and 21.1% were Arabs

There is no point in explaining to you if you have no understanding of basic concepts, and your head is a mess of scraps of minimal knowledge, mixed with primitive propaganda ?!

PS Pentagon is considering strikes on military installations of terrorist gangs-formations of Hussites in response to attacks on civilian ships. Looks like it's time for the Hussites to get ready to migrate to the "other world"....

Pirates must be eradicated from their roots because they are very detrimental to fishermen and ships that cross international routes by sea. I think the government really has to step in to handle this at the borders of each country so that sea lanes can continue to be safe and not hinder the circulation of the world economy in any way. I quite agree that all pirates should be exterminated by the government by deploying all naval military forces because they are of no use to anyone or their own country.

What rule of law is in one of the least developed countries in the world? With an average annual income of $500 is one of the poorest countries in the world, and where the poverty is high there are many illegal activities. I guess we can say that their government is making sure things to stay like that because they have fingers in everything, they are just on top of the food chain.


We always have a choice, but sometimes we are forced to choose the lesser of two evils... Sometimes it can be pretty hard to pick the most ethical path, I would say it's especially hard for people with empty stomachs.

While reading the OP post and going through the topic, Pablo Escobar came to my mind, and how he invested drug money in his hometown. Illegal activities are everywhere around and if done on some high level they bring a lot of money into the local economy... and I can say that we can conclude that governments are included in those illegal activities, in one way or another. But while many people think that we need stricter rules and more police I don't think that can help much... just look at the wars on drugs. After +50 years there are more drugs and more criminals.

Places like this where such act is taking place government are aware things are taking place and I still wonder why nothing is being done about it, we have the naval officers and marine officers what is their duty. Year to year piracy keeps happening and it is affecting life, travellers are dieing, going through alot by losing their goods to this sea pirate. I think the government the government needs to look into this to reduce the rate of this act.

Actually it is the people that make rules and the government are just nodding to what their people are doing. There is still government on them but there is no strict enforcement of rule to th because civil war is already there. It is a lawless land and the government do nothinv with it because they are benefiting from the sea piracy's money. It is always huge money that is involve there and their economy wont survive or will stay low if there will be no other source of income for their people.

Of course, the sea piracy is not only helping the pirates themselves, but also the families behind them and with all the new money they get and spend in their country this will also help the government. When it comes to the countries where they pirates are based, there is usually a lot of political turmoil and no stable leadership. Small factions fighting against each other and also relying on sources of income that are usually either selling precious resources or like in this case sea piracy. The insurance sums the pirates can get for these large container ships is huge and will be life changing that makes up for the risk they take. Just recently the whole pirate issue got worse again when the Houthi rebels from Yemen started to attack ships in the Red Sea with missiles. It's one thing to try and steal the whole ship, and something else blocking sea routes by attacking container ships. In any case the response is very costly as either several military vessels need to be dispatched, or the ships would have to take longer routes. 

I don’t think they have that much adverse effect to marine trading/faring since people and navigators have made contingencies to avoid these pirates, particularly those close to Somalia since they are the most notorious ones out there. Whatever effect they may pose, I think it’s only isolated for that party. For instance, if a private carrier ship’s hijacked for its contents and goods, I suppose the only one that’s gonna be in the ringer for that is the private company itself, and perhaps the local government held responsible for negotiating with these pirates if possible.

Hhmm, are you sure about that? But why I think they are? Can't you see in the films that there are treasure of gold being robbed by the pirates? Maybe that also happens in real life, but it doesn't being talked about often compared to the other activities that you lists there. With that said, there is no real need on discussing them. Ships being hi-jacked are being reported in the news sometimes. This is how important they are and there are actually talks about how they affect the economy of one's country.

I think, how they managed the assets that they get, doesn't really matter. And what about those other activities that you mentioned there? Do you think the people who does them, knows how to managed their money properly? I don't really think so.

I don't really see any way that see piracy afffect the economy of a nation. Just like you have written, many of the stolen money and kidnapped people are only minute among what could make a country's economy to collapse. There are many things we need to keep our eyes one that could make a country economy to fall. Corruption and bad government is the major way that can affect the economy of a country to fall and come into recession. The inflow and outflow is another reasons that can contribute to fall of a country's economy.

I agree with you OP there is always an option for those who want to change themselves. We all know that in ships many goods are transferred and all that has high prices if someone grabs that ship and sells it in the black market they will earn millions of dollars so why someone will leave this opportunity for a few dollars salary per month? Ships are the best option for trading as it takes less time and less cost as compared to airplanes but the issue is these sea payrats who steel these shipes. I think the better solution for this is to take serious action and make a special sea force for those places where the chance of pay is high or another possible solution is to provide jobs to them on these ships so that they will never repeat it.

The easiest and most cost-effective means of importing and exporting goods is by sea. A study shows that shipping companies face huge financial losses every year in their shipping industry. Some of the reasons for facing huge financial losses include Somalia pirate attacks as well as shipwrecks. Somali pirates are generally very aggressive and target ships that carry large amounts of valuable goods. Pirates take those ships and demand huge ransoms, and when the shipping industry pays the ransom, they release the ships. Due to pirate attacks and extra money paid to pirates, many shipping industries shut down their operations, but with the advancement of technology, some advanced security systems have been added to the ships to prevent pirates from attacking the ships. Due to the use of advanced technology in ships, the presence of pirates has reduced a lot.

Countries that face this high level of piracy are mostly those without a sustainable rule of law. The people behind the piracy are been encouraged by other top officials who is real sense disguise themselves and fight pirates only in their chambers while protecting the real ones on the seas because of the wealth they acquire from those pirates that engage in those acts. I don’t see anything hard in wielding the sword against pirates, but you can’t harm them because they are being protected from the inside .

Tons of items and costs to make a shipment transportation and if the pirates stole those baggage it a big loss to them including the fees, and the items, base on second-hand experience of a fried there's really a pirate right there and they tried to depend the ship but of course not all the time they can because of the number and the equipment of the pirates so they let them get the items but of course its different story if they stole the ship itself. Most of the countries have support from their marine soldiers they are the one and responsible for the safety of the shipments and the sea itself to the people who want to commit an illegal in the land of the sea. Base on my country I didn't hear a news related on it that they caught pirates on hand and send to jail.

Robbers/pirates, indeed their actions are disturbing for some entrepreneurs, in economic terms the behavior of pirates does not have a positive impact on the local economy, this can be seen from the life of Somalia, The world knows about the robbers' actions there, the money they make from ransoms does not produce anything positive for the local community, they mostly use the money to buy drugs and weapons.

My understanding is that the actions of pirates actually cause a lot of harm to the local community, the goods coming into the country are actually more expensive than the standard price, this is caused by the long detention of cargo ships and other things, for months, there is a shortage of goods, the local economy is not good if the area often experiences piracy carried out by robbers, it actually worsens the economic situation in the local area.

So you first say "there is no such international law" but after I provided the actual UN resolutions with page number and even paragraph numbers, you say it is "propaganda"
Good to know that I'm wasting my time talking to a troll.

Classic Zionist terrorist propaganda trying to hide behind Semites and Jews although Zionists have nothing to do with either one of them. In fact one of the biggest protests against Zionists is currently taking place in New York, US by the Jewish community.
This is exactly what ISIS did too. The radical terrorists that hid behind Islam and Muslims and were destroyed by Muslims too. Hopefully the Zionist terrorists will be eradicated with the hands of Jews and Semites soon.

Piracy cannot be an economic venture for people to go into, if locals that stays within sea route that cargo's pass through and then they begin to attack the ships in a bid to to kidnap the crew men for ransom and hostage taken, that's an aberration in the international law that allows cargo ship that are on a voyage to pass through without hitches or interference so long as they have the required documents to pass through. It is not an economic venture for anybody to go into piracy because the shipping companies can easily bypass that route and make use of other route or even stop bringing goods to that part of the country because they cannot make use of troubled waters.

As usual, nothing in response but denuded Hamas propaganda !
0. Tanker, bulk carrier, container ship passing in international waters are not civilian victims of terrorism ? And why did you ignore the question about the "Yemeni army" that you are trying to pass off as Husit terrorist gangs ?
 1. Was there such a country as Palestine in the history of the world ? Didn't you learn history yet ?!
2. Show me the documents that Israel is recognized as an apartheid regime ? I can legally put you on a par with the chordates, but it will not recognize you as a gopher, although it also belongs to the chordates !  
3. Regarding the UN resolution
Just a couple of excerpts:
- "The resolution placed Israel in line with states practicing apartheid"..... I.e. it did not, for example, recognize Putin as a Russian citizen "Recognized as an international criminal", or Russia as a terrorist country, or Hamas as a terrorist organization. They were not "ranked with other groups" but recognized ! Show me where an international court has recognized Israel as an aggressor, the prime minister as a war criminal, and an anti-terrorist operation as a seizure of foreign territory with all the consequences ?

Now, this is of course expected  
- "The representative of the USSR emphasized that Zionism is a form of racism, and the representative of Cuba pointed out that Zionism, which occupied Arab territories in 1967. The resolution was supported by Arab countries, third world countries and the socialist bloc" - perfect alliance remind you that the USSR was very

I.e., terror supporters and pronounced anti-Semites who promote anti-Semitism, racism, and persecution on the basis of nationality, victims of "sort of apartheid" ?!! Are you serious ?!! ))
4. About the IDF - point out the line in the text you quoted where it says "the IDF is a terrorist organization" ?!!! This is your inflamed fantasy, which is trying to find some justification for Hamas terror, and trying to absolve Hamas of blame for the deaths of civilians in the Gaza Strip. It's disgusting and stupid!


I could answer the rest, but I'm not going to waste my time on a useless process if Hamas propaganda and data manipulation is the basis.
 
PS And this is for your general knowledge: Apartheid (Afrika. apartheid "apartness", i.e. separate living, working, etc.) is an official policy of racial segregation implemented by the ruling Union of South Africa. Israel, which has given jobs, shelter, and civilized living conditions to over 200,000 Palestinians, among Jews - promote appartheid ?   Israel which has as part of its government the United Arab List (Hebrew הרשימה הערבית המאוחדת, Arabic. القائمة العربية الموحدة, the acronym is PAAM, the political Arab party of Israel)

Provided that Hamas, Iran and some other terrorists claim to destroy specifically and specifically Israelis and specifically Jews.
And who here promotes the ideas of apartheid, xenophobia?

PS For the last photo - thanks, but we already know that this is the work of terrorists ! You haven't discovered anything new here. Sometimes they can realize their complexes, that's life ... But thanks for the photo of the civilian cargo ship hit by terrorists. It's just like I said, thanks for confirming it !

Your desperate attempt at attaching the word "civilian" to these shipments doesn't change their nature.
The Zionist regime occupying Palestine under the fake name Israel is internationally recognized as an apartheid regime. According to United Nations resolution 3068 on International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid
US Navy is not advanced enough to be able to protect the shipments that are being sent to your Zionist friends to help them continue committing genocide and terrorism.
Picture from the past day:

Piracy cannot in any way I can think of contribute to the economy of the society or the country in general. It doesn’t contribute anything, rather the economy of the country constantly takes several hits due to piracy.

You rightly noted that we always have a choice. We also know what’s right and what’s wrong. Hijacking vessels and holding crew members for ransom money is outrightly wrong, morally and legally. And choosing to indulge in kidnapping is acceptable of the repercussions when caught.

When a ship route is notoriously plagued by pirates, no captain would be willing to risk the life of his crew members and wouldn’t take up any task that would involve sailing to that area. That area would lose business and would be more expensive for the local merchants as they would have to pay more in travel expenses.

Some people don’t see/think far ahead to see how piracy would affect their economy or are too selfish to care cause they’re benefiting themselves.

It's always interesting to read you
Please tell me - could you provide links to the so-called “international laws”, where the rights to attack civilian ships, seize people, and steal cargo were written down? It will be very interesting to read! I assume that I inadvertently missed something, I ask for your help!
I am sure you are not wasting words, and will provide links to these documents, which have the status of, as you put it, “international laws”, which are internationally recognized and are a legislative norm!

And another subtle nuance - where can you get acquainted with the documents that the Houthis, in the form of criminal groups, are the “Armed Forces of Yemen”? Have they received official status? From open sources it is known about them that they are engaged in an illegal seizure of power and terror with the support of their “fraternal terrorist organizations.”

PS Amazing fact - The US warship USS Carney protected three merchant ships from attack in the Red Sea. US Central Command announced Iran's support for the attacks. I would also like to read the laws, international of course, on Iran’s right to support terrorist groups against peaceful ships?

I've watched a documentary wherein Somali pirates stated their reason why they resorted to piracy instead of just being fishermen. Their government is corrupt, no huge companies want to invest in their country, and there literally is no other people to sell fish to as most of the population are poor and don't even have the buying power to purchase their catch. It's a systemic problem mainly caused by those who run the government. This wouldn't have happened if there are avenues for these citizens to make an honest living, but all of those are blocked off unfortunately.

Of course, this still isn't enough of a reason to justify their actions. They are still doing illegal stuff and are causing a lot of losses to other people. Then again, they have no other choice, do they? Imagine being a continent with a massive deposit of natural resources, yet still remain to be 'poor' in today's standards due to the greed of a select few.

Somalia is known for the Pirates but it's due to the incompetence of their political leaders so humans choose the violent way to feed their family. And for the record over 90% of shipments is transported via sea only and also technology evolved a lot still the sea crew has to be very careful in certain regions but the rate of piracy reduced a lot compared to the previous era that is the development.

The beginning of your post was very true, but the continuation and conclusions are far from the truth.

Let me clarify. First, a simple statistic about the economy:
As in neighboring countries, Somalia's economy includes both traditional and modern industries, with a gradual shift in favor of modern industrial technology. According to the Central Bank of Somalia, about 80% of the population are nomadic or semi-nomadic pastoralists keeping goats, sheep, camels and cattle. Nomads also collect resins and gum to supplement their income.

Agriculture is the most important sector of the economy. It accounts for about 65% of GDP and employs 65% of the population. Livestock contributes about 40% of GDP and more than 50% of export earnings. Other major exports are fish, coal and bananas; sugar, sorghum and maize are produced for the domestic market.

We see references to fish production as not a significant but existing sector of the economy. Now let's look back in history. Who were the first victims of pirates ? The answer is local fishermen.
 
Question number two - unreported fishing. Yes, that's a fact. But let's look at the statistics, shall we?  Who is it that violates Somali rights and "steals fish"?
Let's go back in history again:
In the 1980s, fishing cooperatives were established in the country. The government even passed legislation to regulate this sector of the economy. The fishing industry grew rapidly, with the port in the southern city of Kismayo literally swarming with trawlers dropping off rich catches here.

But during the civil war, the infrastructure and economy, including the fishing sector, was dealt a devastating blow. Pirates began to plague the Somali coast, and ordinary fishermen were afraid to go to sea. And on land, the fight against Al-Shabaab was on.

Bottom line: terror and piracy were the original problem of the falling fish market. And yes, it was then taken advantage of...mostly by COUNTRIES, although about 20% of the illegal fish harvesting was by "European neighbors". There is even official data : According to a report submitted to the UN, 300-350 million dollars worth of fish are caught annually in Somali waters by poachers. Of these, about 20% are European poachers and 80% are poachers from neighboring countries....

I don't know why it appeared to me that you are looking for reasons to justify sea piracy. There's no reason whatsoever to justify crime which is a great menace to the society. If we actually want to put your supposed reason for piracy into consideration, that means all the arm robbers, kidnappers, ritualist, etc will have what seems like genuine reasons to commit crime. There are many ways to resolve problems and not to inflict pain on your fellow citizens think you are doing so to the government.

Say no to sea piracy and condemn it always because travelling by sea only is a big risk, adding more troubles will create a big havoc to the sea users.

Piracy is not a good thing, why should we then encourage for doing that, even if some are earning from doing so, it's an illegal means of making money because the entire acts involved are due to unjustifiable means, what we cannot com out publicly and boldly to declare to others as things we do that we earn from should be avoided, what is worth doing os worth doing well, any illegal means of earnings are against the law, including piracy.

Stealing from business people and using that money in your local economy with only bring more harm to the people and the economy because these pirates will increase in population and they will also buy arms to carry out their operations, since they are benefiting from it. There is no way that a small amount of money shared within some small number of individual will help the economy of a country. When there are no longer ships, that is when these ships don't go closer to the shores or to the area that they will be attacked by pirates, this will make the pirates to go back and steal from the neighbouring communities or even attack people in the country. This happened to my friend as her local marker boat was attacked by local pirates and all her goods was stolen, it is these same pirates that rob on the boundaries of the coastal regions.

Should this be an excuse for them to continue robbing business people fishing, common no matter how small a crime is stealing is stealing because the victims will suffer it.

Piracy is illegal just like overfishing by breaching maritime boundary and what led to piracy? It's the overfishing in huge vessels which is like robbing the poor fishermen illegally yet no one raise this as hot topic because the victims (Pirates) are from poor African nation wherein the preparator are white collar criminals.


Yes as government cannot monitor or patrol their sea boundary 24/7 that's where these illegal vessels enter their maritime and do the crime of robbing livelihood. First they should be punished.

I have a different view on this issue and I have seen more than dozen of documentaries about the pirates and what led them to piracy. The answer is simple it's the corrupt government who are not capable of defending their maritime, some rich nations who do overfishing in these horn of Africa region leaving literally noting and even killing even the smaller fish as they use huge ships and nets wherein they can easy catch an year's income of thousands of fishermen at one go.

If you destroy their livelihood they are going to come after you and these pirates are mostly fishermen who are forced to do this and no one questions the rich nations who breach the maritime boundary. Since the government in the mentioned nations are corrupt they don't intervene and overfishing happens here as long as government is bribed.

I can keep writing about it but I would like to conclude here by advising everyone to know both sides of story

A little history, from open sources: The Houthis (Houthis, Hutis, Arabic: الحوثيون‎), or Ansar Allah, also Ansarullah, Ansarullah, Ansar Allah (Arabic: أنصار الله‎), is a militia group of Shiite Zaydis ov (jarudites), acting on territory of Yemen. In 2004, it launched an armed uprising against the Yemeni government, gradually seizing control over some of the southern territories of the country. The Houthis took part in the 2011 Yemeni revolution, which resulted in the resignation of President Ali Abdullah Saleh.
Since the beginning of 2015, after the capture of the Yemeni capital Sana'a and the creation of the Revolutionary Council, it has been the de facto ruling organization in Yemen. The Chairman of the Revolutionary Council was Muhammad Ali al-Houthi. The legitimacy of his rule over Yemen has not been recognized by the UN, the US and the GCC.
It is assumed that the Houthis have hidden military and financial support from Iran and its allies in the Hezbollah party.
The group is named after its founder and former leader Hussein al-Houthi, who was killed by the Yemeni army in September 2004.

In short, it is an illegal armed group that has close relations with terrorist organizations and dubious regimes. They are engaged in terrorism, seizure of power and organized crime. The picture is already “beautiful”.
Of the “successes” in capturing “Israeli ships” - at the moment... nothing!
The news feed gives us the same result:
- Yemen's Houthis fired a missile at a Norwegian tanker
- Yemeni Houthis attacked Bahamas-flagged bulk carrier Unity Explorer, owned by Unity Explorer Ltd and operated by London-based Dao Shipping Ltd, LSEG data shows. The ship was scheduled to arrive in Singapore on December 15.
- Yemen's Houthis attacked a Panama-flagged container ship owned by Number 9 Shipping Ltd and managed by Bernhard Schulte Shipmanagement of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, according to LSEG.
....

But these are all “Israeli ships” - terrorists will always come up with an “excuse” for themselves, even if it is so stupid... But they also have an audience to match their “excuses”

Total: ordinary terrorism and chauvinism, only at sea!

I never truly understood why ships still go around those parts, is it a must? Like is it so much profitable that you take the risk? Couldn't they just avoid those type of places and just stay away from them? Feels like they could simply just avoid it as much as they can and would still be fine. I look at the map to see where those nations are, and feels like it could be avoided, they need to figure out a way to just stay as off coast as possible and not get any closer at all.

Plus, why not just hire people with some guns for each ship? Security is important, and a guy with some rifle would be good enough to defend, and I mean literally just one, and that's the security, have a few more guns on board in case anyone else wants to shoot as well, and suddenly it's some Somalin little boat with 5-10 people in it, getting shot at with fully automatic rifles from a giant ship that can carry tens of tons of stuff, the size difference and the weapon difference should make it easier to defend.

The interview with the pirates is a bit much. What are they going to answer the camera? The truth or the mere lies that the world wants to hear and have commotion for these peeps? I hate to break it but it is not their property and they have no right to loot the ships just like that. The robbery is robbery it doesn't matter if that is happening in the sea above the sea or the air. Why is it like this always? There is some illegal activity happening but some report reaches them and that too safely, they bring back full of emotions tape of the criminal and everyone starts feeling good for them. What is wrong with this generation?

Do they have no jobs? Oh come on, bite me. So the next step you do is turn into a pirate and start chasing the boats. However, they can not think about searching for new jobs and opportunities around the globe. No one should come with a mindset stating that they are not getting any jobs even after searching around the entire globe. If you are skilled, you are going to get hired. Its big world.

  I had no idea that in other countries, privacy is a crime. But as far as I know, there is probably no country where piracy is legal in their jurisdiction. Instead, it is illegal.

  Especially here in our country, there are other countries that are close to us that claim a sea territory of our country that is theirs, which is an illegal action that they are taking. That is why our President does not allow the country to claim ownership of something that is not really theirs.

For me it has just worsen the economic instability of the said countries. Piracy is a crime therefore investors will never try to take the risks of pouring tremendous amount of investments to these countries just for that reason. What if shipping companies hire armed guards just to fight piracy? I think they really will... Then what now? How is that "wealth distribution" even possible in that situation? Well yeah, it has indirect benefits but the question is how long? Piracy will come to an end if affected countries and companies will request to send navies to that specific shipping route.

The assets that those pirates makes by hijacking other ships aren't really big, you should discuss about drugs, money laundering etc that obviously bring a huge cash flow. But I don't think there's a big effect on the local economy since they're only know how to earn money, not know how to manage their money. So they will back become poor after they run out of money and start doing their illegal activity.

Investing in those environments is rare, because they stay far from the main town of any state. Although their natural ways of fishing may be affected, piracy isn't good for the economy. Ships are expected to be equipped with few naval officers to guide goods from pirates. Fighting the hijackers is better than paying those huge ransom. Pirates are also heavily equipped and fight well at sea, but when intercepted by the military Navy, the hijacking won't be simpler for them. Thereby reducing the rate of kidnapping and stealing of people's properties. Whatever it is they're fighting for, the innocent businessmen shouldn't suffer for it. Lots of money goes into those imported goods, meant to be marketed in the local market. Pirates spoil the market for many and hike the price of commodities due to scarcity. Imagine a country where a cargo of car tires gets intercepted by pirates and hijacked, there'll be a limited supply of car spare tires in the region where it's meant to be delivered.

So, ship crews should figure out a way of preventing pirates from evading their ships. There are multiple precautionary methods for preventing pirates from hijacking a ship. Coupled with the security, most ships will be able to bypass the pirates. When ships don't travel too close to the shores like you suggested, what exactly would it prevent? because these pirates move with boats and are better swimmers. That part of the sea is mainly their territory and they grew up there. Hence, shooting will be easier for them, increasing crime. So, they'll have fewer people visiting such environments, for safety reasons. Due to such acts the government is favorable to the locality, and the poverty will increase, causing people to migrate to a greener pasture. Many kids around such vicinity, will grow up looking to join pirates since it's part of their livelihood. Only a few of them would cherish formal education.

It seems like you are ten years late to the news story. Piracy became prevalent for a time, especially off the coast of Somalia, but it is now a lot more in check and infrequent because there are international naval patrols in the area. It was almost an inevitable mix, as fishermen with lots of boats and weaponry but living in a very poor country with few options to sustain themselves, have these large targets going past every day which had no protection at a certain point in time. After a crackdown and improved defenses, things became a lot harder for them and many gave up on this option.

We're getting used to the reason of having a lack of opportunities and that's why good people turn into evil people and do evil things. I don't know if this situation is ever going to change but it's all about choices. We can't always blame the government or we should do if they always see more people turning into piracy and that dirty money gets into their economy and is fed to their families. I've been in a tough situation and that's why I can speak for those who have lacked opportunities because I've been once in that tough battle and have to find ways for my own sake.

I think we can put this in general that it's not just all about the piracy in the sea but also those people that do other illegal things for the same and common reasons, poverty and lack of opportunity. This is going to be a cycle for the children of those that do this and they'll also reason out the same thing. The government as I am saying, either blames them or not, if these people have been used to this, they are hardly going to change.

And for the most recent pirate attack on the Yemeni area, as said, it's all due to the Israel-Palestine matter. The recent that I know of, it's no longer Israeli ships that they're going to take over but any ship that came or will go to Israel, they'll seize it.

Criminals who kidnap on land bear same MO with sea pirates who hold sailors and their crew against their will and then demand ransom.
The countries even mentioned are more poor than many countries in their region and with the absence of good jobs that pay well, we have had to see the interest rates rise tremendously.

Criminality cannot be a better way to improve the economy of any country and that's why more military border patrols are being developed including using drone tech for surveillance in these regions.
As sailors are learning to arm themselves, they also try to avoid these routes that the pirates can attack from and unless the consignment they carry is too valuable, then the need for escorts at almost every nearby ports is also one way to protect and reduce the effort of sea piracy.

i don’t think that’s how it works piracy has a certain effect on the market if the ship they pirated holds products what do you think will happen to the products? there will be a temporary stop to the distribution of goods there might also be a reduced rate of jobs because they might steer away from working in the ships in fear of piracy

It is not categorized as piracy or "kidnapping" though! It more like sanctions, something that the international community should have done everywhere. Just like they did when Russia invaded Ukraine. Or maybe you think you are a rebel and your government committed piracy when they sanctioned Russia and seized Russian assets?

The same thing is happening here too. The Zionist regime is internationally recognized as an apartheid regime and as the aggressors that has invaded Palestine has to be punished same as Russia if not worse. But because the so called international organizations such as United Nations are rigged and actually American organizations, they can not act according to international laws. They have to fulfill US interests.

So that forces Armed Forces of Yemen to take actions according to international laws and send the Yemenis Coast Guard to enforce these sanctions on the apartheid regime and seize any shipment that is going to Israel to help them continue the genocide.

If we look at history in 1715 piracy at sea became active again because of peace between England and Spain, both of whom created pirates so that it was not much different from what Somali pirates do today because sea access had to be via the Indian Ocean. Ship routes Traders from England, Spain and France are among those who definitely feel this way every time they make a shipment. There was nothing that could be avoided but to arm merchant ships and military escorts It costs more but saves a much larger investment.

Piracy carried out by Somali pirates was born to show resistance due to the economy there not being able to move well.  So looking for ways to speed up the economy by criminal means. If you want to stop piracy the only way is for every country involved in trade  transactions in these waters to unite and use their respective military strengths to go to sea to provide a warning and offer to the Somalia pirates as the  British government did in 1718, offering acquittals for crimes, protection and cooperation to develop the economy. In essence the Somalia pirate camp split into two like Woodes Rogers offer to the Nassau Republican pirates, Benjamin Hornigold, Edward Teach, Charles Vane and Anne Bonny. 

The current cases of ship hijacking have little to do with the economic/financial impact of piracy. The Yemen rebels also known as the Houthi are kidnapping ships, that are owned by Israeli businessmen, because of the conflict in Gaza. This is more related to politics rather than economics.
I don't think that piracy contributes anything to the local economies of Somalia and Djibouti. Having an economy means having an industry, which produces goods. I don't know about those two countries producing anything whatsoever. Piracy is basically stealing money from someone else and spending them. When the money are gone, you have to steal again in order to sustain your standard of living.

In a bigger picture you have to see Africa. An extremely rich continent where majority of people live in poverty because they have been colonized and their wealth is being pillaged by the colonizers.

In a situation like this, specially when you add the lack of a powerful government, crimes grow because people would have no choice but to turn to a life of crime to make a living. Piracy is only one of its results.

I wouldn't say "it helps local economy" though because the money won't be spent in the economy, it would be a vicious circle of more crime, buying guns, and other criminal activities as the gangs form and the crime becomes organized.
The reason why I started my post with the root cause of the situation is because we all know that to eliminate any problem we should eliminate the root cause which is foreign intervention ie the colonizers again...

I've heard of this problem, and I think that it's important to focus on the roots of the issue and preventive measures (positive, not negative ones) to help make things better. So ships should not travel too close to the shores, disrupting the fish movement patterns and polluting the seaside where people rely so heavily on it as a source of food and work. It would also be good to invest, if possible, into programs that would help people from these regions to obtain additional education and skills and find reasonable jobs. Ultimately, piracy is having a very bad impact because people don't want to invest in a region where it's happening, don't want to risk going on a holiday there etc.

If they lack job opportunities, they should hold their government responsible and not attacking business. They don't have any excuse to kidnap and collect ransome from businesses engaging in legitimate businesses. If they are not comfortable with the government they should vote them out during elections. Sound maritime policies should be able to checkmate the impact of shipping activities on the fishing business.

Proceeds from crime cannot be considered a means of wealth distribution because it will cause more destruction to the economy than growth. An increase in criminal activities will discourage investors from coming to the country which will create unemployment. These criminals don't really spend on items that contribute to economic development, they spend money mostly on arms and ammunition, hard drugs and prostitution. Most of these pirates are security threats to the local community they live. They end up my terrorising the local community until the people end up in poverty and death. There is nothing economically good about criminal activities.

You can't fight evil with evil. If you do then give does that make you different from the very thing you fight? Saying the impact of ships on the sea led you to be a pirates is just an excuse to do it. Saying lack of job opportunities is just an excuse. So if everybody who doesn't have a job opportunity in the region decides to go into piracy, there would be no jobs for some pirates.

There should be a proper system and proper security in the seas of the affected region. The problem with issues like this is that governments are so nonchalant about these issues. And most times security agents and governments are part of these pirates one way or the other. Either by giving information or protection.

Things like this derail an economy. Shipping companies might decide to stop shipping to that region or make their services very expensive because of the heavy security they have to pay for and the risk involved. This will in turn make the prices of goods very extension the region and gradually, many businesses would begin to go out of business. Foreign companies that do not feel safe and can't afford to protect their staff may leave and all these hurt the economy.

Even if piracy significantly contributes to a country's economy, I don't think the country should just take and support those piracy, that is highly unethical. More than that, if any country took advantage of a piracy in their sea jurisdiction it will give bad influence on the international  relationship with other countries.

Piracy as it exists is a form of terrorism. And the "touching tales" that "we became pirates because we couldn't get a job" is a very pathetic attempt to justify the choice of a criminal path. I think pirates will not take it easy if their neighbor loses his job and, for example, hijacks a relative of a pirate and surrenders her organs explaining "I am a surgeon, I am out of work, don't worry, everything is fine". All terrorism and criminal violence must be destroyed. The problem is that "you can't play by gentleman's rules with criminals", they don't understand the words law, right, value of human life. They are the cancer of our world. The only cure is annihilation.
PS Yemen and Russia should be added to the list - countries purposefully engaged in maritime terrorism against civilian ships.

I have watched documentaries about Somali pirates, and it appears that the country is suffering from economic disintegration, brain drain, and high levels of unemployment. children resort to weapons and piracy in order to obtain ransom money to free the ship’s crew or its contents. Some governments resort to negotiating with them because the most they may ask for is 10 million dollars, while Insurance costs and tracking the movement of tankers can cost companies trillions of dollars. Piracy is sometimes linked to politics, as is happening now on the right, where some groups there are closing the Bab al-Mandab Strait.

I agree with the previous comments, and it is that the OP starts from a simplistic view, while the interrelationships in economics are much more complicated than that. Those regions would benefit more from an open economy, without pirates and where many people could earn an honest living. The little that pirates can spend is not a solution to anything.

If I read your description above, one thing that can be taken away is that the first problem is temporary because and secondly, sustainable economic growth will continue to be maintained, not by piracy and will only be enjoyed by irresponsible parties. certain groups that have power because when legal economic opportunities are limited, individuals may view piracy as a necessary means of survival and indeed it is also seen as a form of wealth distribution, which functions as an economic emergency system but does the activity actually encourage sustainable economic growth??

Piracy is illegal act, most countries aren't allow that except the untouchable one. Most people like when it comes to money regardless it's obtained by legal or illegal ways.

If the country is consider privacy is a crime and anyone who doing or support that will be jailed, it's just a law. The government can't stay or watching their seas for 24/7, so that's why there are many sea piracy not get punishment.

"You can't end your suffering by instigating suffering on other people" Martin Luther King Jr. Whoever enjoys the fact that a certain person got kidnapped or ship hijacked and the money generated through it would help their local economy is rendering himself a bad service. He's nothing better than a thief. One day the pirates will come hunting the same people who think they're beneficiaries of the evil act. Are you saying in regards to Robinhood methods, where the stolen money would be used to help the poor? You need to know that stolen money doesn't help the economy of any locality. Rather it diminishes the economy. How do you expect a local area depending on thieves to survive. That locality will face abject poverty. Because thieves don't help the society. They only take away money meant to be circulating in society and waste it on a lavish lifestyle. What the pirates do, ain't good for the society, despite the fact the goods aren't headed to their nation or country.

The owners of the hijacked goods, families of the kidnapped will suffer and cry for their loss, while some are happy believing it's a great service to their society. First, they won't be able to manage the stolen goods and money, hence it won't circulate properly. Second, the price of things in that locality will skyrocket, because vendors believe they're dealing with thieves, and they won't bother buying things at any price. Generally, every human in that society will suffer huge losses for supporting stealing. Then taking it on a more realistic aspect, the way you want to see it, is it possible for money derived through kidnapping and stolen treasures to feed millions of people in a society? remember the pirates will take their share of the money, and hoard huge amounts, for weapons and armories. If that locality doesn't produce weapons, the utility of the pirates, how is the economy going to be helped? How many times will those Pirates patronize the food market, compared to the bullets and weapon sellers? It makes no sense, however, that Navy officials don't put more effort in endeavor to reduce such problems, as it's bitter to hear that so many businesses crumble due to their ship being hijacked.

In the world of transportation, air and sea shipping are vitally important. However, while air shipping is used for its speed, sea shipping is chosen for the amount of cargo it can carry. One recent issue troubling sailors is sea piracy, especially in regions around countries like Somalia, Djibouti, and Kenya. Vessels are hijacked, entire crews are kidnapped, and they are held for ransom for months or even years. In some interviews with pirates, they claim that the lack of job opportunities led them to piracy, while others assert that former fishermen turned to piracy due to the impact of ships on fishing.

I am here to ask if anyone has considered this. We always have a choice. Piracy cannot be the sole option for personal economic growth unless it significantly contributes to the economy of these countries. It brings in quick and substantial money for the pirates, who then spend the money in their local economy. It functions as a wealth distribution system. Even people in these places might not want piracy to end because of the indirect benefits on their local economy. Do you think I am correct here?