secondstrade.com - scam!!!
see proof:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/secondstradecom-scam-proof-1392290
Topic: Secondstrade.com is a SCAM - Ask for your refund (Proof inside) (Read 1939 times)
January 13, 2016, 06:17:21 PM
In my experience binary options are routinely rigged to some degree. Even when you're dealing with "regulated" brokers they play with your expiry and strike. I can't say that I'm surprised, but I would highly suggest that you get out of binary options while you can.
I have personally come up thousands of dollars off of a $200 deposit with binary options and when you request a pay-out they will tell you things like "You used unfair trading methods", or tell you some other nonsense that repeatedly delays your withdrawal. You will not come out as a winner when it comes time to withdraw your winnings, or they will make sure there are no winnings.
I have personally come up thousands of dollars off of a $200 deposit with binary options and when you request a pay-out they will tell you things like "You used unfair trading methods", or tell you some other nonsense that repeatedly delays your withdrawal. You will not come out as a winner when it comes time to withdraw your winnings, or they will make sure there are no winnings.
January 13, 2016, 07:29:35 AM
OP is just an idiot which never learn and ever cry.
can you check my post on secondstrade?
no scam accusation, just wanna be refunded at an error seed value generated dosent match to what he declared.
two txids were posted there, both with errors. .4 btc declared lose bet but true value proves thats a ''win''
while around .2 btc declared winning bet and i also posted that that should be lose bet for secondstrade's benifit.
as a hero member, i wonder if you could help me explain to admin to make the process of refunds faster.
note that on my win bet that was ''lose'', i will never get a payout according to previous complains made by paid
players on their requests.
thank you in advance..
January 12, 2016, 04:15:00 AM
AN OTHER PROOF , STILL NO NEGATIVE TRUST YET , REALLY BAD PLZ ANYONE HELP:
what could negative trust do ? you need to wait for the admin's explanation and let it get confirmed by some skilled dev..If they are sure bout their fairness then it is not likely that they will return any of your money.
January 11, 2016, 08:10:40 PM
January 11, 2016, 03:43:26 AM
omg, please you're claiming that they stole from you is 1BTC but you're only providing a tx hash that only contains .002BTC bets. 
why won't you provide all the details, all of the tx that amounts to 1BTC.
your proof is weak thats why nobody gives a fuck about your tantrum.
why won't you provide all the details, all of the tx that amounts to 1BTC.
your proof is weak thats why nobody gives a fuck about your tantrum.
The way you talk means you're mentally sick anyways the Txs above and this thread is to pove that secondstrade.com is rigged after he admit and want to start refunding i will post all my transactions here.
I hope after creating this thread you take your time to send secondstrade a short message to let him know that you opened a thread against him to give him a chance to air his side of his story. I sen't him a PM and a link to this thread so he can answer.
I did instantly after i started this thread but he have no respect to this forum and also he is busy making BIG MONEY SINCE 2014 WITH NO RED TRUST UNTIL NOW.
January 11, 2016, 03:24:12 AM
I hope after creating this thread you take your time to send secondstrade a short message to let him know that you opened a thread against him to give him a chance to air his side of his story. I sen't him a PM and a link to this thread so he can answer.
January 11, 2016, 02:44:32 AM
OP is just an idiot which never learn and ever cry.
you are probably bullying the OP.it seems to be fishy, the network confirmation is randomly occurred, not even 10 minutes in average.
i am not sure why the binary option wasn't started before the confirmation. this 'delayed' the period thus lost the expectation.
on-chain betting has this kind of risk, most of the tx requires at least 1 confirmation because the double spending is common recently AFAIK.
January 10, 2016, 08:01:19 PM
OP is just an idiot which never learn and ever cry.
January 10, 2016, 06:11:06 PM
omg, please you're claiming that they stole from you is 1BTC but you're only providing a tx hash that only contains .002BTC bets.
why won't you provide all the details, all of the tx that amounts to 1BTC.
your proof is weak thats why nobody gives a fuck about your tantrum.
why won't you provide all the details, all of the tx that amounts to 1BTC.
your proof is weak thats why nobody gives a fuck about your tantrum.
January 10, 2016, 04:30:23 AM
I see you people are giving negative trust only to other members so you can feel powerfull on them anyways i did all i had to do ive exposed secondstrade.com , I'm done.
Well they said you were using double spend transactions. That explains why you need to create a newbie account to post this accusation..
Members will laugh at your stupidty as soon as they see your reply, Dont you know that anyone can see if there is a double spend in the blockchain using the TXs hash above ? well i think this is one or your ALT accounts ? or a sig money member ? anyways just to lets you know secondstrade.com doesn't accepte double spend and pays only after 1 confirmation
Edit: Also You cant even read a fucking quote, He replied to amaclin and not me Wow i see why he keeps scamming really stupid members
i'm done! F***k Where is VOD.please stop do this @scondstradescammers
we have don't any scam since our site launched.
if you give us reasonable proof, we will refund . but what you said will not be proof.
thank you.
we have don't any scam since our site launched.
if you give us reasonable proof, we will refund . but what you said will not be proof.
thank you.
My win bet was not payed even tx got confirmations
bet: https://blockchain.info/tx/3dffd0a4da4e5555fe5416ca8e44cc1a699af978b7d568c506f3a636104206a4
secondstrade page no longer available
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=3dffd0a4da4e5555fe5416ca8e44cc1a699af978b7d568c506f3a636104206a4
google cache
we will check about that. it will take some time for investing about that.
please wait some hours. if there was any problem,we will pay you. thank you.
So, The transaction will not be paid.
January 10, 2016, 04:05:10 AM
I see you people are giving negative trust only to other members so you can feel powerfull on them anyways i did all i had to do ive exposed secondstrade.com , I'm done.
Well they said you were using double spend transactions. That explains why you need to create a newbie account to post this accusation..
January 10, 2016, 01:54:26 AM
I see you people are giving negative trust only to other members so you can feel powerfull on them anyways i did all i had to do ive exposed secondstrade.com , I'm done.
January 09, 2016, 11:19:39 AM
I wonder how much money he scammed ..., waiting for refunds ... 
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. January 09, 2016, 09:51:01 AM
Can you give more details about this if you are telling the truth the blockchain transaction can you give us to prove that you are betting in that site?
Sure check all bets here (First wallet): https://blockchain.info/address/1C5yK8Y5fZukmUqZEcz7QivHtkx6EsKa5u
(Second wallet): https://blockchain.info/fr/address/1AsBr17GSZ2vNy6gABi8NVfDnbCm7825BK
I hope a green trust member will give him a negative trust until he solve this.
Thank you.
Edit: THAT's AN OTHER PROOF BELOW, THE GAME IS TOTALY RIGGED I WONDER WHY HE HAVE NO NEGATIVE TRUST YET ?? ANYWAYS I WILL REPORT HIM EVERYWHERE INCLUDING THE INTERNET POLICE W'LL SEE
hi? everyone?
there is a really interesting article on secondstrade.com.
i am very thank you about this article.
this all is because our client have loved our site.
this article is below.
http://bitreview.com/binary-options/seconds-trade
thank you.
as i read about aboves link, i decided to post my transaction that i noticed to have an error but this has different case than those who were answerd by you and what was this txid will even surprise you secondstrade admin.there is a really interesting article on secondstrade.com.
i am very thank you about this article.
this all is because our client have loved our site.
this article is below.
http://bitreview.com/binary-options/seconds-trade
thank you.
expire price was change and at first glance you cant see an error but when you calculate it with sha 256 generator, the real expire price will be revealed right?
Betting Transaction id : 1b8c293928d5ebfc03867ac3c5483d876b045cff0e6ee046723abd99b0d23891
Betting address : 1JLczkK6fTYiN7zjUHp5NhjnnvnYFQ6T6k
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.3
Betting price : 5
Betting expire price : 8
Betting start seed : 12:33:1+225.6+0+1.13248
Betting start seed convert SHA256: 57887aae1fd30a7611d28c8ead9324f39c375e7c4a96554a1adbba1ae2073741
Betting expire seed : 12:33:6+225.58+6+1.13226 ( da588ef3e046d998b8837271925e2b6abb4173601feff2079fbbaa8a92945f78 )
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 89499887d5cae76f7f16b9b80a82b8081cc748a6b852fb0b75cb4bac68f799c6
Result : LOSE
Sorry buddy
start price was 5 and ending seed would be 5 too as generated not 8. making this bet a winner..
i have to request refund at this one admin of secondstrade.com
we refund you about this.
txid is https://blockchain.info/tx/f69a93e20e98b8a1650a63b6bbb7cc6d7864ff3ab8dbec7933cac3877e6971ba
sorry for your inconvenience.
January 09, 2016, 09:39:26 AM
Can you give more details about this if you are telling the truth the blockchain transaction can you give us to prove that you are betting in that site?
January 09, 2016, 09:00:06 AM
I've contacted him and all he said is this (Like every other scamming sites):
"I dont know what you are saying. We have always been honest about every thing. When you lost, we became scam??"
AGAIN HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF:
I used my server again to send two bets at the same time in every 1 second (The first bet : 0.002 BTC Secondstrade SEC DOWN and the second bet Secndstrade Sec+1 UP) And the results were mind blowing :
all my bets got included in different time!!! even if i used the same sending time as the first one .
"I dont know what you are saying. We have always been honest about every thing. When you lost, we became scam??"
maybe the owner was away on vacation. try to contact support bro
this owner : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/secondstradecom-381676
this owner : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/secondstradecom-381676
AGAIN HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF:
I used my server again to send two bets at the same time in every 1 second (The first bet : 0.002 BTC Secondstrade SEC DOWN and the second bet Secndstrade Sec+1 UP) And the results were mind blowing :
all my bets got included in different time!!! even if i used the same sending time as the first one .
January 09, 2016, 08:55:23 AM
maybe the owner was away on vacation. try to contact support bro
this owner : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/secondstradecom-381676
this owner : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/secondstradecom-381676
January 09, 2016, 07:25:45 AM
Here is a proof that secondstrade is rigged and its a scam please becarefull :
I used my site to send two bets at the same time automatically every 1/2 Seconds using the blockchain api and check the results :
Proof : http://s11.postimg.org/gnr9mwxhv/Capture.png
All my bets included in the SAME RECIEVING TIME (Check the seconds) while i didn't send them at the same time , (there was a 1/2 Seconds delay between evey bet).
If you are the secondstrade owner i ask you to refund my money or i will make sure to do something about this.
If this is a bug please fix it and refund my money.
Btc :1KtAUfVqKy8Te3ZjQ5tcEQp5v4F3cT7NXH - Lost more than 1 btc in total.
EDIT:HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF THAT THE GAME IS RIGGED :
PROOF: http://s11.postimg.org/p5sszejer/prove.png
You are in big troubles SCAMMER.
Transaction proves (The 1 second delay recieved correctly in secondstrade.com):
TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2
Transaction proves (The 2/3 seconds delay that proves secondstrade.com is rigged - Both Recieved at the same second in Secondstrade.com even if there was a 2/3 seconds between every bet !!!):
TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8
Again this is a call to all members that they care about the safety of bitcointalk's members to give Secondstrade.com a negative trust until he refund all the scammed money.
EDIT: The owner replied with a mind blowing answer that proves his game is rigged :
HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF THAT THE GAME IS RIGGED :
PROOF: http://s11.postimg.org/p5sszejer/prove.png
You are in big troubles SCAMMER.
Transaction proves (The 1 second delay recieved correctly in secondstrade.com):
TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2
Transaction proves (The 2/3 seconds delay that proves secondstrade.com is rigged - Both Recieved at the same second in Secondstrade.com!!!):
TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8
Again this is a call to all members that they care about the safety of bitcointalk's members to give Secondstrade.com a negative trust until he refund all the scammed money, please help us admin or anyone strong here.
PROOF: http://s11.postimg.org/p5sszejer/prove.png
You are in big troubles SCAMMER.
Transaction proves (The 1 second delay recieved correctly in secondstrade.com):
TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2
Transaction proves (The 2/3 seconds delay that proves secondstrade.com is rigged - Both Recieved at the same second in Secondstrade.com!!!):
TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8
Again this is a call to all members that they care about the safety of bitcointalk's members to give Secondstrade.com a negative trust until he refund all the scammed money, please help us admin or anyone strong here.
below is the result of our site for your transaction. there is no any problem.
you said delay is proof of scam. but we have published about that on Refund Policy of http://secondstrade.com/notice.html
Refund Policy
2. A delay Bet due to the delay of a bitcoin network is not a part of the refund. <---- Note: he is talking about the network Delay LOL! The money already recieved in his site as you can see in the pics above
we also said "there is a batch program that handles incoming orders at a same time every seconds" on the http://secondstrade.com/notice.html
if you send two orders each 0.5 seconds, it could deal with the same second.
which is not a scam. we can not change the any result with the delay.
and we have published for it
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8
As you can see above he said clearly : "if you send two orders each ---->0.5 seconds<----, it could deal with the same second. "
AND my transaction as you can see in the image above was 2/3 seconds delay (Check the txs above) but it was recieved at the same second!!, NOW IF THIS IS NOT A PROOF THAT SECONDSTRADE.COM IS SCAMMING PEOPLE THAN I DONT KNOW HOW TO PROVE ANYTHING ANYMORE!!!!
Note: The owner is totaly ignoring me and gone offline with no explanation or refund : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.1140
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