Seed Functionality in restoring wallets

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Quote from: BTCGOLD on October 03, 2017, 01:18:35 PM

Quote from: BA_Solutions on October 03, 2017, 03:01:24 AM

Hi Everyone,

Newb here, and orientating around this forum at the moment.

I've read some posts about restoring your wallet by using your passphrase combination in conjunction with seed (words). I'm wondering how does this restoration actually work, and what does the seed do exactly in this process?

Is the seed a (unique) combination of words that, together with your passphrase, provide you all the info you need to restore a wallet on any device? Like seed + password combination?
Or how does this string of information fit in the process? Or how is it used in the process of actually restoring a wallet?

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Cheers

When you had a similar problem you did not need, unfortunately I do not have information on what it depends. If you can handle this problem, tell me how to do it. I am curious that I would like to get some return for recovery.

Not sure what you mean by that but are you strugling with a restore of something? are you trying to restore a wallet with your seed? I guess any problems with it are wallet related.
What wallet/issue are you talking about?

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Quote from: BA_Solutions on October 03, 2017, 03:01:24 AM

Hi Everyone,

Newb here, and orientating around this forum at the moment.

I've read some posts about restoring your wallet by using your passphrase combination in conjunction with seed (words). I'm wondering how does this restoration actually work, and what does the seed do exactly in this process?

Is the seed a (unique) combination of words that, together with your passphrase, provide you all the info you need to restore a wallet on any device? Like seed + password combination?
Or how does this string of information fit in the process? Or how is it used in the process of actually restoring a wallet?

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Cheers

When you had a similar problem you did not need, unfortunately I do not have information on what it depends. If you can handle this problem, tell me how to do it. I am curious that I would like to get some return for recovery.

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Quote from: BA_Solutions on October 03, 2017, 04:06:43 AM

Thanks!

I will be taking a a look at that reference url. Does it also happen like this when you have like a 20-word seed collection associated with a hardware wallet?

Both my ledger nano S and my trezor use a 24 word seed, but yes, the principle should be the same... Only the seed words are used to create a master key, the pin code just exists to protect your hardware device.
If the recovery sheet containing the 24 words is ever stolen, the thief can empty your wallet without knowing your pin code... (unless you use a hidden wallet inside your trezor, this hidden wallet is actually generated using a passphrase on top of the seed... like a 25th seed word, like you assumed in your initial OP link. But this is an advanced feature, not enabled by default)

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Thanks!

I will be taking a a look at that reference url. Does it also happen like this when you have like a 20-word seed collection associated with a hardware wallet?

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Quote from: BA_Solutions on October 03, 2017, 03:01:24 AM

Hi Everyone,

Newb here, and orientating around this forum at the moment.

I've read some posts about restoring your wallet by using your passphrase combination in conjunction with seed (words). I'm wondering how does this restoration actually work, and what does the seed do exactly in this process?

Is the seed a (unique) combination of words that, together with your passphrase, provide you all the info you need to restore a wallet on any device? Like seed + password combination?
Or how does this string of information fit in the process? Or how is it used in the process of actually restoring a wallet?

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Cheers

First of all: welcome to the forum.
I immediately want to correct your assumption: the MOST common HD wallets need ONLY the seed phrase, there is no need for the passphrase.

The seed phrase is used to create an xprv. Using a derivation path, private keys, public keys and addresses are derived from this xprv.

if you want to know more, i'd advise you to read the bip
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0032.mediawiki

BA_Solutions

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Hi Everyone,

Newb here, and orientating around this forum at the moment.

I've read some posts about restoring your wallet by using your passphrase combination in conjunction with seed (words). I'm wondering how does this restoration actually work, and what does the seed do exactly in this process?

Is the seed a (unique) combination of words that, together with your passphrase, provide you all the info you need to restore a wallet on any device? Like seed + password combination?
Or how does this string of information fit in the process? Or how is it used in the process of actually restoring a wallet?

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Cheers

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