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Quote from: salty on November 19, 2019, 01:25:42 PM

I encountered a similar situation in the bancor service.When I needed to write down 12 words I took a screenshot of the screen.Then when I needed to restore the wallet I noticed that when I took the screenshot these 12 words were translated into my native language.Now to unlock the wallet I need to translate all these words.But it's not that simple.Because 1 word-can be interpreted differently.And that's 12 words. I've got $1,000 in my account. Who's gonna help me solve the problem, I'll give you half of that amount.

Firstly... taking a "screenshot" of your 12 word seed mnemonic is a very bad idea! Who knows where that photo ends up being stored on your device(s) and cloud service(s).

Secondly... the fact that it got "translated" suggests that it was probably sent through a cloud service to get converted (possibly Google?). Shocked

As for recovering the words, depending on the language it was translated into... I would think that it should be fairly easy to cut the 2048 wordlist down to a significantly smaller subset as the words are not that similar to each other.

With a smaller subset (probably less than 30)... and one of the first addresses generated by the seed mnemonic, you'd probably be able to brute force it using a script fairly easily.

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Quote from: Miner_223 on May 31, 2019, 08:09:37 PM

Hello everyone. ask for help.

About 3 months ago I sent from the exchange to the wallet trust wallet 6.41 eth, the address is available, only when I wrote down the seed phrase, I did not give one word, most likely the last, because after 11 words is a comma.

I don't know how I managed not to write it down, I'm still torturing myself... Besides, this money is not mine, I was asked to help buy ether.

The main question is: are there any ways to choose the last word? Can be any scripts, programs, brootforces and so on. And another question: how can I most easily restore myself (that is, pick up the word), for example in iancoleman insert the last word and check the address, how to try to automate?

Please help. Thank you very much for your understanding and support.

That is very sad. Try to look into many different words which presented in another ssed phrases and try to chose the most popular words.

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I encountered a similar situation in the bancor service.When I needed to write down 12 words I took a screenshot of the screen.Then when I needed to restore the wallet I noticed that when I took the screenshot these 12 words were translated into my native language.Now to unlock the wallet I need to translate all these words.But it's not that simple.Because 1 word-can be interpreted differently.And that's 12 words. I've got $1,000 in my account. Who's gonna help me solve the problem, I'll give you half of that amount.

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This is going to be difficult to know, but don't you have the private keys or the JSon downloaded, if you did, then you can use it to access your accounts. The issue now is that you are not sure if it is only the twelfth words that is missing, even if it is only the twelfth words it would be difficult to get the combinations

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Sorry to hear that mate, but I believe there is no way to recover the secret phrase. There are so much words that could theoretically be there, so keep trying and hopefully you will get lucky, but for me it is a lost wallet.

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Quote from: walerikus on November 17, 2019, 05:13:54 PM

I have a similar question, I had no seed words, but I have a private key, is there any way to recover the seed words for ethereum wallet address?

No. You cannot work backwards from a private key to the seed that generated it. Note that the words are simply a more human friendly "encoding" for the seed itself (which is just a very very very VERY large number)

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I have a similar question, I had no seed words, but I have a private key, is there any way to recover the seed words for ethereum wallet address?

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unfortunately the best way to recover a wallet is through the private keys or mnemonic phrase. thats why its the most important thing to do when openning a wallet to keep it save. probably you can try to quess the word or import in trust wallet. never make this mistake again.

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Quote from: Shatterlean22 on June 02, 2019, 12:56:38 AM

I never know this could actually worked ,I tested it last night and viola it works but I'm kinda worried now about ,is this not a vulnerable way to hack others wallet? Huh

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No... Guessing one word out of 12 is fine... Assuming you know an address that is fairly close to the beginning of the derivation path... AND the words you have are in the correct order.

Anything additional to that and the time required to generate and check combinations starts to increase at an exponential rate.

Even if you know the words are in correct order:
Time to find One word - measured in seconds
Time to find Two words - measured in minutes/hours
Time to find Three words - measured in days
Time to find Four words - measured in months
Time to find Five words - measured in years
Etc etc

If you don't know the order is correct... These times become orders of magnitude greater.

To brute force 12 words? Measured in lifetimes! Tongue

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I never know this could actually worked ,I tested it last night and viola it works but I'm kinda worried now about ,is this not a vulnerable way to hack others wallet? Huh

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Just the other day I got into the same situation. I was helped by the method that HCP described in detail. After you try, tell me how it went.

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If you think it is probably the last , you just need to brute Force it.
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt

There are 2048 possible words, which are listed in the above link. There are programs already mentioned here that will brute Force for you.

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Quote from: Miner_223 on May 31, 2019, 10:18:49 PM

Quote from: HCP on May 31, 2019, 10:04:18 PM

Quote from: Miner_223 on May 31, 2019, 08:09:37 PM

The main question is: are there any ways to choose the last word? Can be any scripts, programs, brootforces and so on. And another question: how can I most easily restore myself (that is, pick up the word), for example in iancoleman insert the last word and check the address, how to try to automate?

Yes. Trust wallet appears to use BIP39 compatible 12 word seed mnemonics, and also appears to be using standard BIP44 derivation path (m/44'/60'/0'/) for determining your ETH address.

This means that you can use the "seedrecovery" script that comes as part of the "btcrecover" package to bruteforce the correct word... It will require you to download and install Python and a couple of libraries... but isn't super complicated if you follow the installation instructions carefully.

The main requirement is that you know what the ETH address used was... if you know the ETH address, the script will find the missing word within seconds.

I've just downloaded Trust Wallet, created a test wallet and got the 12 word seed. I then tested running seedrecovery using the "Ethereum Standard BIP39/BIP44" option, along with the ETH address from the wallet and only the first 11 words... and it found the missing word in a matter of seconds. So, I would say that chances are very good that it'll work for you... assuming you have the ETH address.

Feel free to ask here or via PM if you need help setting up btcrecover/seedrecovery.

Thank you very much, I will try to do it today, I will let you know about the result!

Im glad you found the answer and want to see the result as well.
If i were you, i would frustrated as well because done such simple mistake. I hope you will be succeed to recover your ETH, good luck.

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Quote from: HCP on May 31, 2019, 10:04:18 PM

Quote from: Miner_223 on May 31, 2019, 08:09:37 PM

The main question is: are there any ways to choose the last word? Can be any scripts, programs, brootforces and so on. And another question: how can I most easily restore myself (that is, pick up the word), for example in iancoleman insert the last word and check the address, how to try to automate?

Yes. Trust wallet appears to use BIP39 compatible 12 word seed mnemonics, and also appears to be using standard BIP44 derivation path (m/44'/60'/0'/) for determining your ETH address.

This means that you can use the "seedrecovery" script that comes as part of the "btcrecover" package to bruteforce the correct word... It will require you to download and install Python and a couple of libraries... but isn't super complicated if you follow the installation instructions carefully.

The main requirement is that you know what the ETH address used was... if you know the ETH address, the script will find the missing word within seconds.

I've just downloaded Trust Wallet, created a test wallet and got the 12 word seed. I then tested running seedrecovery using the "Ethereum Standard BIP39/BIP44" option, along with the ETH address from the wallet and only the first 11 words... and it found the missing word in a matter of seconds. So, I would say that chances are very good that it'll work for you... assuming you have the ETH address.

Feel free to ask here or via PM if you need help setting up btcrecover/seedrecovery.

Thank you very much, I will try to do it today, I will let you know about the result!

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Quote from: Miner_223 on May 31, 2019, 08:09:37 PM

The main question is: are there any ways to choose the last word? Can be any scripts, programs, brootforces and so on. And another question: how can I most easily restore myself (that is, pick up the word), for example in iancoleman insert the last word and check the address, how to try to automate?

Yes. Trust wallet appears to use BIP39 compatible 12 word seed mnemonics, and also appears to be using standard BIP44 derivation path (m/44'/60'/0'/) for determining your ETH address.

This means that you can use the "seedrecovery" script that comes as part of the "btcrecover" package to bruteforce the correct word... It will require you to download and install Python and a couple of libraries... but isn't super complicated if you follow the installation instructions carefully.

The main requirement is that you know what the ETH address used was... if you know the ETH address, the script will find the missing word within seconds.

I've just downloaded Trust Wallet, created a test wallet and got the 12 word seed. I then tested running seedrecovery using the "Ethereum Standard BIP39/BIP44" option, along with the ETH address from the wallet and only the first 11 words... and it found the missing word in a matter of seconds. So, I would say that chances are very good that it'll work for you... assuming you have the ETH address.

Feel free to ask here or via PM if you need help setting up btcrecover/seedrecovery.

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I don't know if trust wallet uses bip39 mnemonics or no.
If it does and you are 100% sure that the missing word is the last one then there are good chances to recover your wallet (2048 different possibilities).

Here is the word list for bip39: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt
Try each word in that list. There are many scripts you can use to automate the process.

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Hello everyone. ask for help.

About 3 months ago I sent from the exchange to the wallet trust wallet 6.41 eth, the address is available, only when I wrote down the seed phrase, I did not give one word, most likely the last, because after 11 words is a comma.

I don't know how I managed not to write it down, I'm still torturing myself... Besides, this money is not mine, I was asked to help buy ether.

The main question is: are there any ways to choose the last word? Can be any scripts, programs, brootforces and so on. And another question: how can I most easily restore myself (that is, pick up the word), for example in iancoleman insert the last word and check the address, how to try to automate?

Please help. Thank you very much for your understanding and support.

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