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I am trying to understand the terms you are offering. Is it correct to say you are asking for a loan under the following terms:
Loan Amount: 2BTC
Due date: October 31, 2017
Repayment amount: greater of $20,000 (paid via bitcoin at exchange rate at the time of repayment), or 2.2 BTC

I am also trying to understand the relationship between you and TuTu.Co.in. Is this your project? Or did someone else create this project? Where do you fall into play regarding this project?


Where will the funds to repay the loan come from? How will the funds from the loan be used? If the ICO is ultimately not successful, what funds will be used to repay the loan? Do you have sufficient assets to repay the loan if the ICO is not successful? Are you personally guaranteeing this loan?

I assume you are able to provide some kind of signed message verifying your identity as Bruno/Gleb.

Thanks.

Shut up you scamming whore!!!
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The OP of our pre-ICO thread has been updated. Please visit to read the revised offering: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yutucoin-revised-our-pre-ico-has-ended-2134069 (relevant part at very top of OP).

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If your ICO starts to gain more interest/steam and/or if the landscape changes, I may reevaluate in the future.
 

Thanks for your consideration, bud. I've made a note to keep you abreast.

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Being that China recently banned ICOs, in addition to the fact that ICOs are somewhat frowned upon in the US, and that only one person has purchased 0.02 BTC worth of coins so far, I think I will pass for now.

If your ICO starts to gain more interest/steam and/or if the landscape changes, I may reevaluate in the future.
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That said, sadly if I had sufficient assets to repay the loan if the ICO is not successful, I wouldn't be in a position in having to request this investment-cum-loan, albeit that's perhaps a misnomer given that many multi-million-dollar entities seek additional funding for their respective projects in spite of their coffers being adaquently topped off.
Well I guess my question is, what would you do if the ICO is not successful? Would you be in a position to repay the original loan amount?

I am also, not entirely sure I am understanding what the proceeds of the loan will be used for.

The proceeds will dominantly be used for the formation of the ICO in assuring its success, e.g. marketing, design, some legal, etc.

I guess the honest answer is that I probably won't be in position to repay the loan in full if by the off-chance the ICO is not successful. Surely, it should be able to achieve a 2 BTC threshold, whereupon at least the original loan amount would be satisfied. For the life of me I can't envision a realistic scenario where less than U$20,000 would be recognized by the end of the ICO - I'm projecting at the very least a half-million dollars, of which I might consider that a failure, but won't cry over such, it being enough to move forward, enabling the opportunity to amass additional paying users organically once out of Beta.

Bruno

The 100% interest is indeed enticing, however, you answer has not even answered the question of QS which is,

...what would you do if the ICO is not successful? Would you be in a position to repay the original loan amount? ...

Please explain your next answer in a way we are assuming, hypothetically, that 100% the ICO fails miserably and does not even garner close to $20,000.

Another thing to note, in case you do raise up $20,000 only, but that was everything, indeed you would be able to pay the lender, but what will you give to the investors? Nothing?

With apologies for stating the same, given that less thought-out entities - some nefarious - have had successful ICO campaigns, I truly don't see our ICO efforts failing, thus satisfying all investors, including whom a short-time loan is sourced, once out of Beta.

I don't have much more to offer than that, but feel free to push back if warranted.

Thanks, bud, for your input.

Bruno

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That said, sadly if I had sufficient assets to repay the loan if the ICO is not successful, I wouldn't be in a position in having to request this investment-cum-loan, albeit that's perhaps a misnomer given that many multi-million-dollar entities seek additional funding for their respective projects in spite of their coffers being adaquently topped off.
Well I guess my question is, what would you do if the ICO is not successful? Would you be in a position to repay the original loan amount?

I am also, not entirely sure I am understanding what the proceeds of the loan will be used for.

The proceeds will dominantly be used for the formation of the ICO in assuring its success, e.g. marketing, design, some legal, etc.

I guess the honest answer is that I probably won't be in position to repay the loan in full if by the off-chance the ICO is not successful. Surely, it should be able to achieve a 2 BTC threshold, whereupon at least the original loan amount would be satisfied. For the life of me I can't envision a realistic scenario where less than U$20,000 would be recognized by the end of the ICO - I'm projecting at the very least a half-million dollars, of which I might consider that a failure, but won't cry over such, it being enough to move forward, enabling the opportunity to amass additional paying users organically once out of Beta.

Bruno

The 100% interest is indeed enticing, however, you answer has not even answered the question of QS which is,

...what would you do if the ICO is not successful? Would you be in a position to repay the original loan amount? ...

Please explain your next answer in a way we are assuming, hypothetically, that 100% the ICO fails miserably and does not even garner close to $20,000.

Another thing to note, in case you do raise up $20,000 only, but that was everything, indeed you would be able to pay the lender, but what will you give to the investors? Nothing?
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That said, sadly if I had sufficient assets to repay the loan if the ICO is not successful, I wouldn't be in a position in having to request this investment-cum-loan, albeit that's perhaps a misnomer given that many multi-million-dollar entities seek additional funding for their respective projects in spite of their coffers being adaquently topped off.
Well I guess my question is, what would you do if the ICO is not successful? Would you be in a position to repay the original loan amount?

I am also, not entirely sure I am understanding what the proceeds of the loan will be used for.

The proceeds will dominantly be used for the formation of the ICO in assuring its success, e.g. marketing, design, some legal, etc.

I guess the honest answer is that I probably won't be in position to repay the loan in full if by the off-chance the ICO is not successful. Surely, it should be able to achieve a 2 BTC threshold, whereupon at least the original loan amount would be satisfied. For the life of me I can't envision a realistic scenario where less than U$20,000 would be recognized by the end of the ICO - I'm projecting at the very least a half-million dollars, of which I might consider that a failure, but won't cry over such, it being enough to move forward, enabling the opportunity to amass additional paying users organically once out of Beta.

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That said, sadly if I had sufficient assets to repay the loan if the ICO is not successful, I wouldn't be in a position in having to request this investment-cum-loan, albeit that's perhaps a misnomer given that many multi-million-dollar entities seek additional funding for their respective projects in spite of their coffers being adaquently topped off.
Well I guess my question is, what would you do if the ICO is not successful? Would you be in a position to repay the original loan amount?

I am also, not entirely sure I am understanding what the proceeds of the loan will be used for.
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I am trying to understand the terms you are offering. Is it correct to say you are asking for a loan under the following terms:
Loan Amount: 2BTC
Due date: October 31, 2017
Repayment amount: greater of $20,000 (paid via bitcoin at exchange rate at the time of repayment), or 2.2 BTC

I am also trying to understand the relationship between you and TuTu.Co.in. Is this your project? Or did someone else create this project? Where do you fall into play regarding this project?


Where will the funds to repay the loan come from? How will the funds from the loan be used? If the ICO is ultimately not successful, what funds will be used to repay the loan? Do you have sufficient assets to repay the loan if the ICO is not successful? Are you personally guaranteeing this loan?

I assume you are able to provide some kind of signed message verifying your identity as Bruno/Gleb.

Thanks.

Full Disclosure: I contacted Quickseller in making him aware of this thread, assumably hence his presence in asking tough questions.  Cry Cry Cry ( Tongue Tongue Tongue)

Using my Gleb account, allow me to address your questions in no particular order.

No signed message but I guess I could create one outta the blue but that'll prove nothing. The two phone numbers attached to myself are both in my control, fairly easily to verify via said means. In essence, proving that I am who I say I am should not be much of an issue to overcome.

I am the creator/founder of YuTü.Co.in et al. Everything penned on the website - /yutu.co.in - was by me, with no others aiding in the overall concept/business model.

The funds to repay the loan will come from funds garnered during YuTü.Co.in's ICO, a common practice where angel investors receive their cut first after ICOs of entities they embrace come to a close. YuTü.Co.in's forthcoming ICO would have to be a total flop if it were unable to amass at least a measly U$20,000 during its run considering that myriad less-thought-out entities have raised tens of millions, founders of some nowhere to be found shortly after amassing their windfall.

That said, sadly if I had sufficient assets to repay the loan if the ICO is not successful, I wouldn't be in a position in having to request this investment-cum-loan, albeit that's perhaps a misnomer given that many multi-million-dollar entities seek additional funding for their respective projects in spite of their coffers being adaquently topped off.

The loan is for 2 BTC regardless of the exchange rate when remitted. Repayment is U$20,000 or 100% interest on 2 BTC, whichever is greater at the time of repayment no later than October 31, 2017 (i.e., if BTC trades above U$5 anytime up to the end of October, then repayment would be over U$20K - e.g., U$5,200 X 2 BTC X 2 [100% int.] = U$20,800)

Hope I addressed everything.

Bruno

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I am trying to understand the terms you are offering. Is it correct to say you are asking for a loan under the following terms:
Loan Amount: 2BTC
Due date: October 31, 2017
Repayment amount: greater of $20,000 (paid via bitcoin at exchange rate at the time of repayment), or 2.2 BTC

I am also trying to understand the relationship between you and TuTu.Co.in. Is this your project? Or did someone else create this project? Where do you fall into play regarding this project?


Where will the funds to repay the loan come from? How will the funds from the loan be used? If the ICO is ultimately not successful, what funds will be used to repay the loan? Do you have sufficient assets to repay the loan if the ICO is not successful? Are you personally guaranteeing this loan?

I assume you are able to provide some kind of signed message verifying your identity as Bruno/Gleb.

Thanks.
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Don't expect anyone to give you a loan without collateral

First and foremost, the loan is to be treated as a short-term investment to be repaid by no later than October 31, 2017, the 9th anniversary of the first release of Satoshi's infamous white paper (a moot point but factually nonetheless).

The collateral, so to speak, will be the success of YuTü.Co.in's forthcoming ICO, with the loan first in line to be satisfied at its close, if not sooner.

Follow the link in the OP and/or read the second post of this thread to view the terms. The OP of this thread - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yutucoin-revised-our-pre-ico-has-ended-2134069 - is also relevant.

To sweeten the terms, foregoing promised PAQs, I'll offer U$20,000 [via bitcoins] to be repaid no later than October 31, 2017, for 2 BTC today. Feel free to modify the terms if you're seriously considering the proposal, e.g. including the PAQ offering.

Again, the requested funds will be allocated toward the formation of YuTü.Co.in's ICO handled by a [non-nefarious] formidable team with a successful track record based out of a real office in Las Vegas, NV.

Bruno

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Get your game girl
Don't expect anyone to give you a loan without collateral
Here come's the lending Police! Go away..

@Bruno : If I had that much money,I'd give you without any questions ! Unfortunately I don't..I'm pretty sure you will have your loan fulfilled if you approach QuickSeller or one of the old lenders who have known your around the forum.Good Luck.
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A bump with the following depicting YuTü.Co.in's worth:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/4372177/youtube-accused-of-censorship-over-controversial-new-bid-to-limit-access-to-videos/


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The Google-owned video site is now putting videos into a "limited state" if they are deemed controversial enough to be considered objectionable, but not hateful, pornographic or violent enough to be banned altogether.

This policy was announced several months ago but has come into force in the past week, prompting anger among members of the YouTube community.

The Sun Online understands Google and YouTube staff refer to the tactic as "tougher treatment".

One prominent video-maker slammed the new scheme whilst WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange described the measures as "economic censorship".

However, YouTube sees it as a way of maintaining freedom of speech and allowing discussion of controversial issues without resorting to the wholesale banning of videos.

Videos which are put into a limited state cannot be embedded on other websites.

They also cannot be easily published on social media using the usual share buttons and other users cannot comment on them.

Crucially, the person who made the video will no longer receive any payment.

Earlier this week, Julian Assange wrote: "'Controversial' but contract-legal videos [which break YouTube's terms and conditions] cannot be liked, embedded or earn [money from advertising revenue].

"What's interesting about the new method deployed is that it is a clear attempt at social engineering. It isn't just turning off the ads.

"It's turning off the comments, embeds, etc too.

"Everything possible to strangle the reach without deleting it."


...

The new YouTube policy allows videos to be seen whilst stopping their makers from earning money and preventing them from easily spreading their message or having it automatically shown to others through the site's "recommended videos" service.

Clearly, YuTü.Co.in is the right service at the right time, especially given that our only competitor of note - Patreon - also has a strict policy in place as to what's deemed allowable for participation in their crowdfunding program. Case in point, Lauren Southern (a Bitcoiner) ...

http://www.dailywire.com/news/18893/patreon-kills-lauren-southerns-account-robert-kraychik#


If that wasn't enough to cement "It's our time!", consider the hordes of gamers no longer receiving a paycheck via Google AdSense program for their uploaded YouTube videos, a formidable subset of YouTubers who once dominated said payroll.

https://www.thetrace.org/2017/04/gun-youtube-restricted-mode-advertising/

My bad! That article is about real guns. Here's a link - one of many - pertaining to gamers who have FAKE guns/weapons embedded in their [battle] videos: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/04/foghorn/youtube-killing-gun-channels/

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By demonetizing firearms-related videos, there will be less of them. And the ones that remain will lack the financial resources to produce the quantity and quality of videos that helped bring gun muggles into the fold.

Enter
YuTü.Co.in - bringing crypto muggles into the fold via the YouTube community.

Think about it!

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As stated in the OP, here's the relevant quote:

In pursuit of our attempt to quickly raise close to U$10,000 in satisfying the organizer's minimum funding request in overseeing operations of YuTü.Co.in's forthcoming ICO - tentatively scheduled to commence during the third week of September - we're offering the next 22 PAQs at the slight discount of only U$200. That equates to less than U$1 per PAQ when you factor in the rewarded bonus PAQs during this overall pre-ICO offering.

To reiterate for those not versed or have yet read the OP, 1 PAQ will be capable of hashing no less than U$2,628 worth of a YouTube channel's crypto-commodity token as long as its creator embraces our program - multiple channels by the same creator would have their own token predicated on the YouTuber's ambitions.

For those with 2 BTC earmarked for investing, we'll offer you the balance of 2,038 PAQs making up this pre-ICO (was 2,047 PAQs but sold 9), of which includes the 9 bonus PAQs per procured PAQ (see OP re details). Further, instead of waiting for the 50,000th PAQ to be sold in rewarding all bonus PAQs, we'll make it the PAQ ID #50,000, thus putting it somewhere south of 30K PAQs needing to be sold for all the bonus PAQs to be rewarded accordingly.

To further sweeten the deal, you can consider the 2 BTC outlay a loan, repaid in full plus 10% interest at the end of the ICO no later than October 31, 2017, and you get to keep all the PAQs included the bonus ones. TBC, you'll be returned 2.2 BTC unless the exchange rate heads south, whereupon you'll be repaid more than 2.2 BTC up to the highest exchange rate in U$ dollars during the interim.

The ONLY way you can lose in the above offer is if I, Bruno Kucinskas, high-tails it into the sunset for a measly 2 BTC, by all accounts, foregoing the projected millions expected to be raised during YuTü.Co.in's ICO.

Please ask questions if you're unsure of anything.

Bruno

Bitcoin wallet address: 1ApA2xnuauEn8ha5sFdXJr6zniqQdBS4wF

Ethereum wallet address: 0x6DC3A615c4ccfB6C322d80d2205E57065B16BeA4

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I, Bruno, am seeking a 2 BTC investment for YuTü.Co.in to be considered a loan, repaid no later than October 31, 2017. The terms can be seen here (and first reply of this thread) - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.21397939. Please read the OP of that thread re other details pertaining to YuTü.Co.in et al.

Please let me know if you desire to invest-cum-loan less than the requested amount along with your terms.

The first reply to this thread (the second post) will immediately be made by my Gleb account à la quoting the post linked above.

Thank you in advance for your consideration.

Bruno Kucinskas

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