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November 07, 2017, 07:18:59 AM
#62
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?
There are many talks about segwit2x in past few weeks as it is going to have a great effect on bitcoin price but as soon as this hard fork drama will end bitcoin price will again go up after some time. People will prefer BTC more and it tends to rise its price so don't worry just relax.
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November 07, 2017, 06:52:56 AM
#61
I am wondering about the replay protection with is lacking with the x2 fork though.

If I understand well: - please correct me if it is wrong -

After the hardfork we get both BTC and 2x coins.
But because 2x has no replay protection, when you spend 2x coins before the BTC, then potentially you could loose also BTC?

Does this mean that after the fork one should first transfer BTC to a different address and only then the 2x can be spend without troubles?

You should read this : https://bitcointechtalk.com/how-to-protect-against-replay-attacks-7a00bd2fe52f
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November 07, 2017, 06:47:10 AM
#60
I am wondering about the replay protection with is lacking with the x2 fork though.

If I understand well: - please correct me if it is wrong -

After the hardfork we get both BTC and 2x coins.
But because 2x has no replay protection, when you spend 2x coins before the BTC, then potentially you could loose also BTC?

Does this mean that after the fork one should first transfer BTC to a different address and only then the 2x can be spend without troubles?
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November 07, 2017, 03:57:33 AM
#59

 $939 and 0.0129BTC.

You mean 0.129BTC, right ?

Oops yes a typo. I have gone back and corrected it. Thanks.
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November 07, 2017, 03:46:50 AM
#58

 $939 and 0.0129BTC.

You mean 0.129BTC, right ?
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November 07, 2017, 03:00:26 AM
#57
So at what price do you think B2x will be when it opens for business?

The BT2 futures token is currently trading at $939 and 0.129BTC. My personal view is that this is at the top end of the price range and I expect it to trade $600-$1,000 at the opening. There will probably be some early buying and I will be looking to sell if it gets up to $1,500.

As for the medium to long term effect on BTC price I don't expect there to be much this time. These forks are becoming old hat now and I really don't detect any enthusiasm for B2X.

Of course, all that is just guessing based on the experience of the BCH fork. Watch and trade the action when it shows you what it is doing. Trade what is happening not what you think should happen.
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November 07, 2017, 02:43:17 AM
#56
there are some groups who speculate that this month segwit2x will fail and will adversely affect the bitcoin we have.
1. the bitcoin we have will disappear entirely (replaced with new coins formed from hardfork)
2. bitcoin will disappear in half (and get 100% new coins formed from hardfork)

I think this is an untrusted rumor and it has been released some days before hardfork. So That is the main purpose of the big hands and the whale groups . They want to cover many bitcoins as many as possible because They can know that this fork will be successful  and it will have a higher value than bitcoin cash. Nobody wants to put so much money to the things which don't bring back the profit to them .Be careful to your bitcoins.
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November 06, 2017, 05:41:40 PM
#55
Relax guys 2x will fail hard, you all can sleep tight tonight.

So at what price do you think B2x will be when it opens for business?
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November 06, 2017, 03:43:55 PM
#54
While the majority of miners have sided with B2X, they will go wherever they most money is to be made, which is the chain with the most transactions. Even if immediately following the fork B2X has most of the mining power, I think Bitcoin will maintain the vast majority of transactions sent as B2X will only be used for trading, just like BCH whose blocks are practically empty compared to Bitcoin.

I expect big miner swings back and forth between the two just like after BCH forked, though users will likely mostly stay with Bitcoin and thus after a few weeks the dust should settle and mining supports stays with Bitcoin and B2X becomes an altcoin worth a few hundred dollars and only used for trading/speculation just like Bitcoin Cash.
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November 06, 2017, 03:26:26 PM
#53
It's completely unbelievable that nobody speaks about the fork...
-    It's almost tomorrow ! The segwit 2X fork is currently planned to happen on November 16th
-  We have very few information about what will happen with this fork ?

   The current and most probable scenario is :
    => The 2X blockchain will stay an alternative chain
    => The original chain will remains the main chain
    => Massive decrease of main chain hashrate due to the NYAgreement.
   
The massive decrease of hashrate will have a huge impact on the network. Even if it will be "repaired" after difficulty reduction, it cannot be unseen.

My questions :
 - Will this uncertainty about future will be stronger than the hope of getting free money with the fork ? (if yes, price drop)
 - Will whales will use this situation to FUD a lot and manipulate the price ? (for me, the answer is "yes of course").





You just did answer your own question  Grin. Its really quiet surprising that people arent too noisy or talking it lately since we are only few weeks ahead before the 2x fork.Unlike on what happened on Bitcoin Cash it did almost talk on everyday and people are waiting and keeping on speculating and talking on the things that they would do on those time but now the interest or the attention isnt too much for 2x unlike on BCC.
People do always love free money on those fork coins which isnt really surprising.
Forks now is no longer a new thing and people are already seeing it as an attempt that would never work and best to just dump whatever you have for the legacy coin once the forked chain arrives. The BCC fork was so much talked about as it seems like the first huge fork for bitcoin and looking at what happened during ETH fork, a lot of people got worried until they realized it was not really that crazy after all. Now, even after BTG, forks are now becoming like child's play and even B2X will be just another child's play cause support for it has dropped.
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November 06, 2017, 01:39:58 PM
#52
People are hoarding as much bitcoin as they can to get more free coins after the fork.

There are however more things influencing the price. Mainly new people entering. I can see it all around me, the influx is huge.

But the new people do not know there will be fork. So that price rise due to fork is not intentional.
Those new users doesnt know yet the movement but most users really into bitcoin gold. Whereas they could easily earn double or triple the amount once they will sell it. Segwit in november has many speculation so all we have to do is to watch the actual price it would be.
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November 06, 2017, 12:38:28 PM
#51
People are hoarding as much bitcoin as they can to get more free coins after the fork.

There are however more things influencing the price. Mainly new people entering. I can see it all around me, the influx is huge.

But the new people do not know there will be fork. So that price rise due to fork is not intentional.
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November 06, 2017, 12:37:15 PM
#50
there are some groups who speculate that this month segwit2x will fail and will adversely affect the bitcoin we have.
1. the bitcoin we have will disappear entirely (replaced with new coins formed from hardfork)
2. bitcoin will disappear in half (and get 100% new coins formed from hardfork)

or
3. nothing will change, B2x will value miserably at 0.1 BTC and BTC price won't be affected. Transaction speed might slow down for two weeks but who cares.
Many speculation, in bitcoin price possibly suffer little dump and it will rising again. It will not crash as others said yet it will continue to grow. Yes btc price wont not much affected instead it will skyrocket.
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November 06, 2017, 10:30:49 AM
#49
This hardwork called SegWit2x will create another branch of the original Bitcoin block chain. Its rationale is similar to what we had in August. The block size is increased to 2 MB (in the original chain of 1 MB). It is expected that this will increase the speed and reduce the cost of transactions in the new network, with the result that the currency will be able to successfully compete with other payment systems such as Visa and MasterCard.
According to analysts, hardwork will be another important event, which will increase the volatility of the Bitcoin's price. As in August, a lot will depend on the support that will be received by each of parts. The fact is that than more support than more transactions, than better growing currency.
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November 06, 2017, 09:53:23 AM
#48
Segwit2x hard fork in 10 days, I prefer current blocksize with segwit than 2x hard fork which may increase blocksize which lead to several problems. It's better if 2x hard fork created a new altcoins called btc1 or b2x such as bch and btg, running in different chain, so people could judge the best coin. But, the answer will be the same, people will always stick to original bitcoin, not btc1 or b2x.
We don't know yet, what will happen on November 16th, whether segwit2x will gain enough hashrate or it will be another altcoin.
How about bitcoin price? I guess we will find out the answer few days before hard fork, if segwit2x become the winner, then bitcoin price may drop back to $5000, I guess.
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November 05, 2017, 03:33:53 PM
#47
What should happen? We would have again an altcoin like bitcash and in December Bitcoin Silver. Good for Bitcoin to keep upgoing.
legendary
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November 05, 2017, 03:25:44 PM
#46
There needs to be some form of negative news accompanied with a massive sellout/profit booking just like what happened on the previous fork in August for us to see another crash. With the rate of price increase right now, there needs to be some form of correction before we take off just so we can assure that everything goes smoothly without any hitch.

We need some massive 'forks are killing bitcoin' drama to have some form of crash (partly for me to buy a small amount again).
You think people have not really gotten smarter to never believe in such FUDs again ?
If we really have a huge correction, you would not be the only one who would not want to quickly buy up, there are so many of us and imagine what that would be eventually, meaning the value will not stay too low for long.

I really wish we still have weaker hands though for my own selfish reasons, but for the good of bitcoin and its future, I am happy it is reducing. However, 2X will just come and go just like all the previous forks and it seems it would end up even more shitty than we could have imagined. Crazy scammers!
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November 05, 2017, 06:29:56 AM
#45
I think by all this people the price would go high more because they're not going to panic selling because they might lose the chance of getting a good profit in trading. but if most of the holders of bitcoin goes panic selling the price will crash up to 50% it's almost a half.
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November 05, 2017, 04:52:09 AM
#44
there are some groups who speculate that this month segwit2x will fail and will adversely affect the bitcoin we have.
1. the bitcoin we have will disappear entirely (replaced with new coins formed from hardfork)
2. bitcoin will disappear in half (and get 100% new coins formed from hardfork)

or
3. nothing will change, B2x will value miserably at 0.1 BTC and BTC price won't be affected. Transaction speed might slow down for two weeks but who cares.
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November 05, 2017, 04:37:46 AM
#43
there are some groups who speculate that this month segwit2x will fail and will adversely affect the bitcoin we have.
1. the bitcoin we have will disappear entirely (replaced with new coins formed from hardfork)
2. bitcoin will disappear in half (and get 100% new coins formed from hardfork)
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November 05, 2017, 04:29:29 AM
#42
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?
We don't really know but let's just hope that the effect after the hardfork in November will be the same as what happened last August which made the value of Bitcoin to go skyrocket. If the incoming segwit2x will be successful, surely, its value will be more expensive and it also means that huge profit will be to its users and investors.
legendary
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November 05, 2017, 03:56:04 AM
#41
People are hoarding as much bitcoin as they can to get more free coins after the fork.

There are however more things influencing the price. Mainly new people entering. I can see it all around me, the influx is huge.
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November 05, 2017, 03:43:11 AM
#40
I think you can already see the effect of this forking issue, the price has gradually increasing because a lot of people are keeping vitcoin to get the new forking coin, after the forking happened the price will be lower a little bit, but it will gain momentum again, and this time we will not have a crash but we will have a correction due to the big buy from the investors
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November 05, 2017, 02:29:03 AM
#39
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?
crash for real ? Was there any crash because of the BCC fork?
I could only remember fork that was filled with surprises as bitcoin kept going higher and that was in early August, not even July. The only crash I could remember was as a result of China banning ICO which did not last.

All the above, this fork would be just like any other fork that would get dumped. There is nothing contentious about the fork again cause no user is ready to relinquish the power they have to some NYA or miners.
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November 04, 2017, 07:45:19 AM
#38
Is the exact date of Segwit2x? Will you get a new coin? or is it just work to increase the block volume? Btc2x not bad:)
Im not sure , but maybe you can follow this site : https://coinsalad.com/2x/countdown
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November 04, 2017, 06:25:07 AM
#37
I think there is a chance that we experience again the sudden crashed in bitcoin price after the segwit like what happen in August before we experience this tremendous increase in the value of bitcoin we've gone into a deep drop that everyone thinks bitcoin could ever die soon I guess same thing will apply in the second fork although I am confident bitcoin will remain in the market still I'm worried about the segwit2x
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November 04, 2017, 06:14:54 AM
#36
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?
I think it does not affect the current situation of bitcoin
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November 04, 2017, 03:51:20 AM
#35
Is the exact date of Segwit2x? Will you get a new coin? or is it just work to increase the block volume? Btc2x not bad:)
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November 03, 2017, 10:58:16 PM
#34
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?

I think the pricing is really nearing its peak and we might be experiencing crash on or before Segwit2x. The correction will not be far from $7000 and not lower than $5000.
i wish the market will prove that you guys are wrong , a lot of people think after the segwit2x activated the price of bitcoin will dropped to lowest down more than 30% or so from the current price , it is just a completely wild speculation .

we are in good price and some people even think it is a reasonable price  considering the demands crazily increased.
Yes , the market cap has touched $200 billion before.
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November 03, 2017, 05:06:26 PM
#33
Given the BTC/BTC2X futures at 0.2 BTC2X for 1 BTC, a price drop of 20% is logic. A drop of 30% is understandable, if we assume that bitcoin price is currently overrated.

As it's not a straightforward fork as BCH was, I'm not sure I'd put too much faith in any futures prices. If you did it right you were guaranteed to get your BCH.

I wouldn't put much into the futures markets. For one thing, it really can't inform us about future demand, which will be heavily influenced by future contingencies. Which coin will have majority hash rate? We don't know. Which coin will have the "BTC" ticker on the largest US and Japanese exchanges? We don't know; that depends on miners and on Bitflyer articulating their hard fork policy more clearly.

The B2X futures contracts (e.g. on HitBTC) are wild speculation. They can go to zero. And the coin split contracts on Bitfinex only tell us that there are more ideological dumpers on the #No2x side. But that group could end up being so small vs. total supply that it doesn't matter. The low volume of all these markets suggests that we can't take them very seriously, either.

One would think that parties interested in creating the perception of a successful 2x fork would want to pump the price of the futures markets. But maybe not: as we see with Bitcoin Cash, after hitting rock bottom, the hype cycle can start once again. It may be more effective to show a rise from the bottom to paint the perception of 2x "overtaking" Bitcoin.
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November 03, 2017, 08:19:45 AM
#32
What if this time the value of BTC and B2X on both chains doesn't increase, but they both suffer because of the rivalry? If history always repeated itself, wouldn't we all be rich?

It looks to me like I'd rather stay in alt-coins this time around, and let the feud pass on my portfolio. The market clearly looks overheated. Who else thinks this could end badly when looking at price development?  Smiley

Definitely could end badly if improperly managed. But that seems unlikely as all the major vendors, exchanges and wallets have committed to moving on to S2X. The market is on fire right now, and it will rapidly be put out after the fork. May go down to $5k during the correction.
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November 03, 2017, 08:07:10 AM
#31
What if this time the value of BTC and B2X on both chains doesn't increase, but they both suffer because of the rivalry? If history always repeated itself, wouldn't we all be rich?

It looks to me like I'd rather stay in alt-coins this time around, and let the feud pass on my portfolio. The market clearly looks overheated. Who else thinks this could end badly when looking at price development?  Smiley
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November 03, 2017, 07:56:50 AM
#30
There are a lot of discussion and argue about segwit2x all this time, but people attention focus on bitcoin price on rally right now. However, segwit2x will be launched on side chain, created an altcoin. People will buy more bitcoin in order to expect more free coins of btc1.
Hashrate decrease may not affect entire network due to there are many miners just get into mining activity, and miners will not let this opportunity of bitcoin's high price which generate more profit for them.
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November 03, 2017, 07:32:33 AM
#29
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?
We can expect a little drop after the fork just like what happen to bitcoin cash but soon we can expect that the proce will stablize within a week or two  for about 7000 usd and since holiday season are coming up many people will invest on bitcoin so there will be a large demand that could cause bitcoin price to rise and go above 10000 usd on january 2018
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November 03, 2017, 05:50:28 AM
#28
Given the BTC/BTC2X futures at 0.2 BTC2X for 1 BTC, a price drop of 20% is logic. A drop of 30% is understandable, if we assume that bitcoin price is currently overrated.

As it's not a straightforward fork as BCH was, I'm not sure I'd put too much faith in any futures prices. If you did it right you were guaranteed to get your BCH.

S2X's intention is to make your BTC useless. If people couldn't be bothered to claim their BCH, they're really going to struggle to safeguard both of their claims on the chains on their own.

It's very unlikely there'll be two chains beyond a couple of weeks so there's no point in pricing the both of them.
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November 03, 2017, 05:44:54 AM
#27
a lot of people think after the segwit2x activated the price of bitcoin will dropped to lowest down more than 30% or so from the current price , it is just a completely wild speculation .

Given the BTC/BTC2X futures at 0.2 BTC2X for 1 BTC, a price drop of 20% is logic. A drop of 30% is understandable, if we assume that bitcoin price is currently overrated.

Before Segwit2x is activated the Bitcoin can reach up to 8,000 USD then I think There will be a low drop about 6,600 USD - 7,000 USD at the end of segwit2x stage so Bitcoin can get a low correction and Altcoin prices will gain from this drop. First drop will be about 7,000 USD then we will see a deeper correction to 6,600 USD. However I believe that Bitcoin will recover again and it will continue to hit 10,000 USD in the early year of 2018.

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November 03, 2017, 05:30:47 AM
#26
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?

I have experienced two major hard fork as a bitcoin holder, both bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold. But honestly this time, I’m a more of a newbie when it comes to Segwit2x maybe because this silence kills my curiosity and my speculation on this time is not working as I’m totally confused of how it will be moving. It is widely supported by miners and exchanges but community is so silently observing only.
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November 03, 2017, 05:28:20 AM
#25
I just found an analysis for price prediction and this will happen in few weeks.
very nice chart and good prediction
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@ccworld/bitcoin-price-prediction
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November 03, 2017, 05:25:48 AM
#24
i am still a little afraid of this upcoming fork but mainly because not much about it is still clear like how many of the miners are going to support it for real or how much hashrate it can keep in the long run like in 3 months after the fork.

when the signalling begins everything will become clear though. i also don't know how they are going to do the signalling either! will it be like SegWit signalling?

there will be a small drop after the fork though. when people get their coins it can come down a little like the BTG drop.
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November 03, 2017, 04:08:58 AM
#23
a lot of people think after the segwit2x activated the price of bitcoin will dropped to lowest down more than 30% or so from the current price , it is just a completely wild speculation .

Given the BTC/BTC2X futures at 0.2 BTC2X for 1 BTC, a price drop of 20% is logic. A drop of 30% is understandable, if we assume that bitcoin price is currently overrated.
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November 03, 2017, 03:56:28 AM
#22
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?

I think the pricing is really nearing its peak and we might be experiencing crash on or before Segwit2x. The correction will not be far from $7000 and not lower than $5000.
i wish the market will prove that you guys are wrong , a lot of people think after the segwit2x activated the price of bitcoin will dropped to lowest down more than 30% or so from the current price , it is just a completely wild speculation .

we are in good price and some people even think it is a reasonable price  considering the demands crazily increased.
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November 03, 2017, 03:27:04 AM
#21
It's completely unbelievable that nobody speaks about the fork...

I'm concerned about it. I see more posts about lambos than about the lack of replay protection on B2X.

I have read this article today and devs on both sides are trying to find a solution for it: https://bitcointechtalk.com/replay-protection-schemes-in-segwit2x-45cba620006b

I'm increasingly less concerned about the lack of replay protection because that issue has gotten a lot of press. I've seen lots of newbies asking about it, and I think services are very prepared this time around after the ETH/ETC debacle last year.

What I'm more concerned about is the increasing hash rate. Difficulty increased significantly on the last adjustment, and will likely do so again shortly before the fork. That means the hash rate will be split (between the two chains) right after difficulty increase. This could cause significant disruption, congestion and high fees.

Bitcoin Cash is rallying, and they are also set to fork to return to a Bitcoin-like difficulty algorithm a day or two before the Segwit2x fork. That's no coincidence. They are setting it up so users will go to Bitcoin Cash for the reliability and low fees, and hash power will come to Bitcoin Cash for the profitability amidst the difficulty clusterfuck in Bitcoin.

I'm hopeful, but I'm also keeping this disaster contingency in mind.
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November 03, 2017, 02:24:39 AM
#20
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?
We don't know if the same crash will happen but for sure there will be a correction. As the same thing will happen that everyone will put most of their funds to bitcoin to get more forked coins and during or after the fork everyone will be spreading again their funds to different alt coins so that will be the correction that we're expecting for. And the cycle goes on as it will be repetitive during these days.
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November 03, 2017, 02:18:56 AM
#19
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?
I think Yes because current crazy buy doesn't have any good reason behind, people are buying to get free money with forked coin after segwit2x just like bitcoin cash.

I still think price can go as below as $6k or even to $5k after fork.
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November 03, 2017, 01:38:18 AM
#18
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?

I think the pricing is really nearing its peak and we might be experiencing crash on or before Segwit2x. The correction will not be far from $7000 and not lower than $5000.
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November 02, 2017, 06:26:33 PM
#17
It's completely unbelievable that nobody speaks about the fork...
-    It's almost tomorrow ! The segwit 2X fork is currently planned to happen on November 16th
-  We have very few information about what will happen with this fork ?

   The current and most probable scenario is :
    => The 2X blockchain will stay an alternative chain
    => The original chain will remains the main chain
    => Massive decrease of main chain hashrate due to the NYAgreement.
   
The massive decrease of hashrate will have a huge impact on the network. Even if it will be "repaired" after difficulty reduction, it cannot be unseen.

My questions :
 - Will this uncertainty about future will be stronger than the hope of getting free money with the fork ? (if yes, price drop)
 - Will whales will use this situation to FUD a lot and manipulate the price ? (for me, the answer is "yes of course").
The miners will go where the money is.  Even if many initially switch to the segwit2x chain, if the price of B2X doesn't catch up with BTC, they will go back to BTC, especially if there's a downward adjustment in difficulty from people mining B2X for a while.  Right now, though, I really have no good feeling for which way things are going to go.
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November 02, 2017, 06:25:51 PM
#16
I'm concerned about it. I see more posts about lambos than about the lack of replay protection on B2X.

No matter what's happening in cryptoland, there are always more posts about Lambos than most matters.

I get the feeling most people expect it to just sort itself out eventually, which also means them expecting their exchange or wallet provider to sort the replay protection too.
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November 02, 2017, 06:23:53 PM
#15
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?
What crash in July? The fork was at the end of the month and the price rallied from $2600 to $3400 by 10th August, and carried on rallying to $4,800 by the end of the month. It didn’t “crash” until early September when the move was caused by China’s last but one ban and Jamie Dimon telling us we were all idiots.We’ve been rallying ever since.

Bitcoincash fork had no impact on the bitcoin price in terms of “crashing” at all.



The lowest point of whole August 1st afair was 16th of July market cap wise.
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November 02, 2017, 11:52:14 AM
#14
Relax guys 2x will fail hard, you all can sleep tight tonight.
agree, take relax.
anything can be happen, but don't take it seriously. take some coffee and enjoying this November. just follow the train Smiley
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November 02, 2017, 11:37:41 AM
#13
It's completely unbelievable that nobody speaks about the fork...
-    It's almost tomorrow ! The segwit 2X fork is currently planned to happen on November 16th
-  We have very few information about what will happen with this fork ?

   The current and most probable scenario is :
    => The 2X blockchain will stay an alternative chain
    => The original chain will remains the main chain
    => Massive decrease of main chain hashrate due to the NYAgreement.
   
The massive decrease of hashrate will have a huge impact on the network. Even if it will be "repaired" after difficulty reduction, it cannot be unseen.

My questions :
 - Will this uncertainty about future will be stronger than the hope of getting free money with the fork ? (if yes, price drop)
 - Will whales will use this situation to FUD a lot and manipulate the price ? (for me, the answer is "yes of course").






Similar to BTG if you ask me. We had very little information with a few weeks left going into the fork. However, over time we started to learn more about it and how terrible it was. It seems like a lot of people will try to hop on the train right now in order to get that "free money" they're all waiting on. Honestly, I don't think they understand that it causes a drop in the bitcoin price as well, but I guess we'll have to see what really happens. After enough forks, I'm sure people will understand the drill.
sr. member
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November 02, 2017, 11:16:40 AM
#12
It's completely unbelievable that nobody speaks about the fork...

I'm concerned about it. I see more posts about lambos than about the lack of replay protection on B2X.

I have read this article today and devs on both sides are trying to find a solution for it: https://bitcointechtalk.com/replay-protection-schemes-in-segwit2x-45cba620006b

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November 02, 2017, 10:40:55 AM
#11
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?
What crash in July? The fork was at the end of the month and the price rallied from $2600 to $3400 by 10th August, and carried on rallying to $4,800 by the end of the month. It didn’t “crash” until early September when the move was caused by China’s last but one ban and Jamie Dimon telling us we were all idiots.We’ve been rallying ever since.

Bitcoincash fork had no impact on the bitcoin price in terms of “crashing” at all.

sr. member
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November 02, 2017, 10:24:54 AM
#10
Most likely BTC will surely crash on the fork day. This is also the reason why Bitcoin keeps on pumping so hard. I believe we could have 8k to 10k before the fork.


What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?
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November 02, 2017, 10:03:50 AM
#9
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?

Based from what is happening, I am thinking that it is similar to what happened in the August 1 possible pork with just segwit. Prices really went down but after everything was cleared prices went up pretty fast. I think it would have lead to even $10,000 not for the issue with china banning stuff like ICO and btc exchanges. That stirred up a lot of drama that halted the price increase and dropped prices a little.
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November 02, 2017, 09:45:08 AM
#8
There needs to be some form of negative news accompanied with a massive sellout/profit booking just like what happened on the previous fork in August for us to see another crash. With the rate of price increase right now, there needs to be some form of correction before we take off just so we can assure that everything goes smoothly without any hitch.

We need some massive 'forks are killing bitcoin' drama to have some form of crash (partly for me to buy a small amount again).
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November 02, 2017, 09:42:03 AM
#7
It'll trigger the correction - too much hype and speculation...there will be a big sell off and we'll see a correction. alts will then slowly re-emerge following the current blood bath.
legendary
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November 02, 2017, 09:39:17 AM
#6
Relax guys 2x will fail hard, you all can sleep tight tonight.
legendary
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November 02, 2017, 08:49:07 AM
#5
It's completely unbelievable that nobody speaks about the fork...
-    It's almost tomorrow ! The segwit 2X fork is currently planned to happen on November 16th
-  We have very few information about what will happen with this fork ?

   The current and most probable scenario is :
    => The 2X blockchain will stay an alternative chain
    => The original chain will remains the main chain
    => Massive decrease of main chain hashrate due to the NYAgreement.
   
The massive decrease of hashrate will have a huge impact on the network. Even if it will be "repaired" after difficulty reduction, it cannot be unseen.

My questions :
 - Will this uncertainty about future will be stronger than the hope of getting free money with the fork ? (if yes, price drop)
 - Will whales will use this situation to FUD a lot and manipulate the price ? (for me, the answer is "yes of course").






Nobody talks because it's dead on arrival. Coinbase is going to get sued, so will Xapo, Gemini and all the rest of corporate retards that think they belong in Bitcoin but they don't. And they will get sued by idiots that also thought they owned Bitcoin but didn't. It will be a mess of people lossing money as they send to wrong addresses and so on, like BCash but worse.

This will only solidify the fact that unless there's massive consensus, a hardfork will always be a disaster, and the idiots that will lose most money will be the exchanges supporting these scams, along with the idiots that sold real Bitcoin for fake bitcoins. So just buy any dip if there's even a dip and stop stressing.
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November 02, 2017, 08:41:07 AM
#4
actually there're a lot of people talked about Segwit2x for a past few months before the run,
but lately we can not see it at all due to increase caused by the chain split.
in other word lately people keep focusing themself on the train and forget about what will happen with it in the future.
will it affecting Bitcoin price ? of course it will and even in my opinion because of this there'll be a significant change that will happen with our price.
crash ? i can not describe it using that word but i believe there will be another 'correction' that will happen in the near future.
but i am not sure there will be another FUD caused by the whales before the Segwit2x.
what i believe right now there will be a 'correction' after it and the FUD started causing a lot of panic sell.


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November 02, 2017, 08:30:11 AM
#3
It's completely unbelievable that nobody speaks about the fork...
-    It's almost tomorrow ! The segwit 2X fork is currently planned to happen on November 16th
-  We have very few information about what will happen with this fork ?

   The current and most probable scenario is :
    => The 2X blockchain will stay an alternative chain
    => The original chain will remains the main chain
    => Massive decrease of main chain hashrate due to the NYAgreement.
   
The massive decrease of hashrate will have a huge impact on the network. Even if it will be "repaired" after difficulty reduction, it cannot be unseen.

My questions :
 - Will this uncertainty about future will be stronger than the hope of getting free money with the fork ? (if yes, price drop)
 - Will whales will use this situation to FUD a lot and manipulate the price ? (for me, the answer is "yes of course").





You just did answer your own question  Grin. Its really quiet surprising that people arent too noisy or talking it lately since we are only few weeks ahead before the 2x fork.Unlike on what happened on Bitcoin Cash it did almost talk on everyday and people are waiting and keeping on speculating and talking on the things that they would do on those time but now the interest or the attention isnt too much for 2x unlike on BCC.
People do always love free money on those fork coins which isnt really surprising.
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November 02, 2017, 08:26:57 AM
#2
It's completely unbelievable that nobody speaks about the fork...
-    It's almost tomorrow ! The segwit 2X fork is currently planned to happen on November 16th
-  We have very few information about what will happen with this fork ?

   The current and most probable scenario is :
    => The 2X blockchain will stay an alternative chain
    => The original chain will remains the main chain
    => Massive decrease of main chain hashrate due to the NYAgreement.
   
The massive decrease of hashrate will have a huge impact on the network. Even if it will be "repaired" after difficulty reduction, it cannot be unseen.

My questions :
 - Will this uncertainty about future will be stronger than the hope of getting free money with the fork ? (if yes, price drop)
 - Will whales will use this situation to FUD a lot and manipulate the price ? (for me, the answer is "yes of course").




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November 01, 2017, 11:26:32 PM
#1
What effect on price do you think this will have? Could we have similar crash as in July?
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