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Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on March 27, 2022, 04:33:22 PM

At one point, you need to make a decision. If he is causing too many problems in your thread, you should remove his ability to post in your thread. If it has gotten to the point that you are complaining about the person in Meta, it probably means he should not be posting in your thread. Otherwise you can remove his posts on an ad-hoc basis.

So far he is good. It seems he is calm but this taught a lesson. It's better if we have a clear direction from unofficial rules thread. The topic creator can apply a certain punishment if they are given the right.

But unless we have such direction, your proposal seems more logical however in the case of this particular user, banning him to post on the self moderated thread I have will open the door for him that he was thinking is close now. He will gladly use this opportunity of the exception 😉

I could give you hint on PM if you are interest or just leave it without bringing him here.

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Quote from: Pmalek on March 27, 2022, 03:56:25 AM

There is no need to have a local rule in a self-moderated thread for deleting someone's posts. You can moderate the thread anyway you want. If the person who is getting their posts deleted doesn't want to be moderated by you, they don't have to post in your thread.

That's right, I just think that it would be still applicable and something reasonable if op is worrying so much for being called for harassment or similar. But i guess it wont do so much, since self moderation is made for that.

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Quote from: Mariah20 on March 27, 2022, 01:10:55 AM

Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on March 26, 2022, 02:33:09 PM

I created a bot for the exact problem you are describing. Please see this thread.

My bot will automatically delete posts made by certain users you do not want posting in your thread.

You're welcome.

You have developed this bot in python language ? I am planning to learn Python in my bachelor's. Thanks for the motivation:)

Feel free to fork my project on GitHub and improve on it.

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Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on March 26, 2022, 02:33:09 PM

I created a bot for the exact problem you are describing. Please see this thread.

My bot will automatically delete posts made by certain users you do not want posting in your thread.

You're welcome.

Thank you. But I do not mind him to post as long as it is on topic or I could use the bot gladly.

At one point, you need to make a decision. If he is causing too many problems in your thread, you should remove his ability to post in your thread. If it has gotten to the point that you are complaining about the person in Meta, it probably means he should not be posting in your thread. Otherwise you can remove his posts on an ad-hoc basis.

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Thankfully he stopped. Since the creation of this thread he did not dare to post off-topic again. However I think there should be a rule about it when someone keep bumping a self-moderated thread with off-topic even when they are discouraged to do that. Before we would just leave a negative feedback but since feedback system has changed now, the topic owner can not do that too. Since there are no clear direction, it seems to hard for a self-moderated topic owner to maintain his goal.

Quote from: noorman0 on March 26, 2022, 02:34:52 PM

Just report for specific reasons (e.g. this user keeps posting off-topic) instead of self-moderating it, if the mod/s has repeatedly received reports against a particular user and all are rated as "good", mod/s may be penalized more than deleting the post.

I like the idea although not sure how effective it will become. But considering no suggested action by unofficial forum rules, this seems a better idea to me. After deleting once or twice if the same happen again then keep it but report it with archived links from loyce.club and ninjastic.space

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Quote from: PX-Z on March 26, 2022, 06:12:14 PM

I think having a local rule will prevent it being accused as harrasment and/or if its bannable offence. You can delete their posts or report to moderators highlighting your local rules in the report.

There is no need to have a local rule in a self-moderated thread for deleting someone's posts. You can moderate the thread anyway you want. If the person who is getting their posts deleted doesn't want to be moderated by you, they don't have to post in your thread. That's also what the notification message of a self-moderated thread says. I don't think the admins will interfere in such a case no matter if you are the one handing out the punishment or if you the person who is getting punished.

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Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on March 26, 2022, 02:33:09 PM

I created a bot for the exact problem you are describing. Please see this thread.

My bot will automatically delete posts made by certain users you do not want posting in your thread.

You're welcome.

You have developed this bot in python language ? I am planning to learn Python in my bachelor's. Thanks for the motivation:)

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I think having a local rule will prevent it being accused as harrasment and/or if its bannable offence. You can delete their posts or report to moderators highlighting your local rules in the report. I usually see this on reputation board or here on the old times.

Quote from: theymos on July 26, 2011, 02:29:46 AM

Local rules can't specify punishments, though people may be banned for breaking local rules too much.

They even can be banned if they break your rules (local rules) too much.

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I have seen this few times in one thread on reputation in recent days. Guess who LOL Cheesy

This part of self moderated thread has no solution I guess. Mods are unlikely to react on such a case. I would be pretty much happier to see to ban someone from a thread as a feature of self moderated thread.
What's the point of local rule (I mean self moderation) if someone breaking the rules few times don't get punished?

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Quote from: jackg on March 26, 2022, 02:26:01 PM

You can just keep deleting their post.

In 10 minutes I had to deleted same post 4 times! It seems he is quite now but the attitude is being shown by him, I guess he will take the opportunity of 24 hours time too.

To reply a post he comes up with an off-topic and according to him:

Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on March 26, 2022, 02:33:09 PM

I created a bot for the exact problem you are describing. Please see this thread.

My bot will automatically delete posts made by certain users you do not want posting in your thread.

You're welcome.

Thank you. But I do not mind him to post as long as it is on topic or I could use the bot gladly.

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Just report for specific reasons (e.g. this user keeps posting off-topic) instead of self-moderating it, if the mod/s has repeatedly received reports against a particular user and all are rated as "good", mod/s may be penalized more than deleting the post.

I heard that there is a hidden special subforum for moderators and staff, I think they will try someone there.

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I created a bot for the exact problem you are describing. Please see this thread.

My bot will automatically delete posts made by certain users you do not want posting in your thread.

You're welcome.

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You can just keep deleting their post.

It's likely against forum rules though as they're bumping a topic within 24 hours without new information so you'd be able to report them for that but it might just be deleted by mods instead then.

There's the potential that it could be considered harrasment and the user could be given a ban but that would probably be taken on a case by case basis (ie if a scam accusation keeps being deleted, I doubt mods would be hapoy to ban the accuser).

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In a self moderated thread I can delete an off-topic post but what if the user keep posting it again and again. In the unofficial rules there are no direction for it. If it happens for a mod then they can punish using a ~~permanent~~ temp ban but what do to if you are just a regular user?

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