Topic: Selfkey (KEY), TheKey (TKY) or Civic (CVC), which one will be the winner? (Read 1563 times)

And the winner is Civic CVC. With Civic, all your personal information is encoded and encrypted on your phone using the Civic Secure Identity App, and you can share it safely and smoothly with any organization or website that is a Civic partner. In this way, IDV can be done much faster and more smoothly, and Civic never actually sees your personal data; only you can the service provider do.

https://medium.com/faast/is-civic-cvc-a-good-long-term-buy-e09060122e94

All these coins are featured in this video for top altcoins in May 2018. I think identity project will play an important role in blockchain industry.

https://bestcrypto.tv/1427/top-altcoins-for-may-2018/

This is what should be the capitalization of the coin, so that it reaches such a value? I think this is unlikely, but I think the price of $ 0.1 we can eventually see.

I still have strong belief in TKY because this is one of the best projects in January 2018. I think TKY will definitely enter big markets in the earliest time because TKY prices have dropped a lot recently and this is a very good opportunity for you to buy now because of me. I believe TKY will soon reach $ 1 this year. Just keep TKY and you can become a millionaire

I got myself Selfkey or Thekey. The one which is on kucoin. Maybe both of them are on kucoin.
Thanks for explaining their differences, actually I'd get CVC if I 'd made more research. Anyway I like the concept, they all are kinda winners

The key is good, the ceo is an award winning lady, a hero in her homeland in China. The key is to do with identity although there is no test net until like end of year so it’s longterm hold. I think it will take off in long run

With the present situation of the market, we cannot simply conclude which one is better and which one is not. So all of them built some community and people are supporting those coins the market when we check their daily volumes. I hope all of them has the ability to secure a significant mark in the crypto world.

Hi I am Korean.
I anticipate thekey's victory.
Thekey has a big partner called neo.
There is a clear market.
It is very stable.
Thekey is preparing to enter the world market.
It was not listed on the major exchanges.
Chinese market opening buff remains.

good luck!

A project like this requires government backing and so far only THEKEY has got links to the government and is actually rolling it out in various provinces. NEO is a great platform so this is going to be the best option out of the three

KYC/AML/ID is a real pain. We are giving uPort and Sovrin a deeper look. Now our PoC is with uPort. How do you interface from web to Sovrin / Hyperledger? The KYC data needs to be loaded from an app and stored. We think p2p like functionality on data storage should be used. How do you handle private key storage? What do you think of the Sovrin token? The fact that government issued IDs are in question could slow down adoption a lot. Do you see that a trusted authority here could be a bank?

It is true that it is a black period. But trust the market will start running again.
Selfkey in my opinion is the winning one

Right now it seems to me that I have not really bothered anyone. They are losing everyone. The large lobbies were all set against the cryptorvolution

Thanks.

Infact, I am currently working with and trying to implement a Sovrin solution - that's why I think these 3 current solutions are only in it for the $$$$...they lack substance as far as true DID/SSI solutions are concerned.
The people behind these projects are opportunistic alright as they have realized the KYC/AML/ID management to be a major bane...and now capitalized on it 

There is universal resolver in the works which is working towards a global standard and interoperability. https://medium.com/decentralized-identity/a-universal-resolver-for-self-sovereign-identifiers-48e6b4a5cc3c

None of these players are on this project. My bet is that you should be looking at Veres one, Uport and Sovrin.

Here's the spec:
https://w3c-ccg.github.io/did-spec/

We are trying to figure out which technology to invest in...

I think Self Key have made some really impressive progress over the last 2 months. I was originally a Civic maximalist but now I'm considering backing 2 horses in this race

I like all three projects and their teams. Own key and tky since those are lower marketcaps than civic.

I wold think all three can succeed since there is such a need for decentralized identity.  SelfKey has one of its partners PolyMatch which could potentially be the next strong securities platform and they will need to tackle identity.  So these sidelines investors are ready to jump once regulation is clear and this will need identity KYC etc.  So the potential is huge.

I vote for TheKey TKY, simply because of below reasons:

1. It is recognised by Chinese government. They are supported by several governmental organisations which is totally a good advantage
2. It is Neo token. Neo ecosystem is shiny compared to Ethereum. 2018 will be the year of Neo ecosystem
3. Their CEO is a winner. That lady is succesful, hardworking, ambitious and charismatic. I think he is going to be the most famous woman in cryptocurrency world

I am serious above. Invested in TKY because of above reasons

Personally I think this is a big enough market for all three of them  to succeed . Of course there will be more competition as it goes but they have early movers advantage

I too long chose between them and could not choose. I decided to take Neo instead of them 

TheKey seems like it focuses mostly on China or Asian countries. So there is a limited use case there already.

Selfkey is using self-soverign identity (SSI's) as the basis for creating a marketplace of services/partners. The idea itself is good but self-soverign ID's are difficult to implement successfully.

Civic probably has the best marketing strategy of the lot, but is lagging a bit on the technological innovation side.


There are 3 huge drawbacks for all of them:

1. The validation/verification part of KYC - it will still need manual user intervention. Either you will need to go to one of their designated partners or they will come to you (KYC.legal takes the latter route).
2. An assumption is - the party you interact with will need to be also enrolled on the platform. E.g.: if you have a SSI with Selfkey and you need to interact with party X - if party X itself does not have a Selfkey SSI then you are stuck.
3. A further assumption is that there will be widespread adoption....ain't ever going to happen. All fintech or companies requiring KYC or AML compliance - need to do independently - especially if they are operating under a strict jurisdiction /regulatory framework. Large fintechs would want participation and influence in the design of the algorithms and mechanisms. To make matters worse - smart contracts are still considered experimental so, which multi-billion corporate would leave their reputation to chance? Some ICOs might use these solutions, but I don't see any fintechs who would take the plunge.

Lastly - most of them use blockchain/DLT as a facade for some new cutting edge innovation. Rather, they can be achieved with "traditional" technology. The only difference is - you, as the end user will have to purchase their specific token to interact with the platform.

If you gave me $1,000 and ask me to invest on any of the 3 listed above - I'd give you $100 more and ask you to buy 2 ETH 

CVC as per me will be the winner

My bet would be going towards CIVIC + TheKey

Vinny Lingham is good but don't underestimate on Catherine Li, she seems to be one of the top 10 Influences in China
Next, it is to be compare on NEO vs ETH, personally i am more comfortable with ETH in this case
TheKey has one of the good advantage which i think they would likely to perform and scale better because they had access to patents and data in China based off what i've read

Both of them have the same marketcap, $100M+-
However if you are looking for real good profit, you might go for TheKey, it can explode to $1B marketcap easily as NEO focused on IDV
For me, i would pick on Civic as civic came off earlier so they SHOULD be surpass on TKY First.
But who knows, pick one of this 3 would result a good investment

I think civic is a proper project, with renowned team and popular owner, its products are already up and implemented by many other projects, so among these i think cvc will be the winner.

By and by I favor thekey as they have as of now a considerable measure of essential experience

Simply look at Selfkey and TheKey.

The 3 projects I personally rate vey high, Civic and Selfkey have released a product but nothing so far from TheKey team.I will say Civic because the people behind it have done several projects that are successful before and I think they have the influence in the space to make CIvic work out very well.

Personally I wouldnt use any of them in my daily life. Not because I don't want to but because I have no use of them, I cant use them in any instituion to prove my identity.

Thekey almost has the finished product. They are very popular in Eastern countries and have a large number of partners. I think it's a leader among all.

I doubt that people will start using any of these apps unless some huge platforms start using them but I dont see that happenin either. The big players would rather make their own KYC thingy.

I think selfkey will be the winner because their app is already about to launch for technical preview. Thekey is only concentrated on Chinese markets. Civic: I don't like it's over vinny lingham because he is very rude and talks bill shot always in Twitter.

Neo is not looking good at the moment so I would choose the other 2 on eth.

I will choose civic if i need to choose one from those coin. Vinyl lingham has a good record on creating start up if im not mistaken he created gyft before. The price also good if you buy now its not too high as 3 month ago. If you want long term you need to conaider civic. Im not shilling just telling the truth.

Selfkey is aimed at a broader market, desktop application can also be used as a wallet. It is also focused on Asian demographics. Civic is more focused on reusable KYC, and has a working phone app which will soon be used for reusable full kyc services.

Selfkey's idea behind Civic is that your identity can only be accessed through biometrics (face or fingerprint), this doesn’t happen with selfkey which you need a username and password to access

I chose TheKey (TKY). I think that out of these three, TKY has the most perspective and chances to grow seriously this year.

I was looking to invest myself today. However, I didn't think that civic was garbage, assumed they'd have first mover's advantage, so why is everybody downgrading them in such a manner??

Really undecided though, thought about splitting my position in both TheKey and SelfKEy (diversification, lower speculative risk...)

I think Selfkey is a better bet and team... but then again TheKey does have a lot of buzz. Hopefully good quality will speak through for KEY.

I would like KEY gonna be. But TKY seems more active and probably will do their stuff earlier. Definitly not CVC

We are very small compared to Civic but we offer actually distributed identity mining (not just some centralized company holding your private key)
https://nyx.insure/

I agree the market is big enough to contain them all. but if I must vote, it would be for the one with the ability to extend its reach to solve other legal related issues to cater for copyrights integrity and genuine data exchange contracts.

You are doing no justice to the matter... TheKey actually has working product under CHinaGoverment in 2 cities, with many more about to be signed for... this brings nearly 250 million people already under TheKey product of ID stuff.

Thats huge, that is nearly the size of US population...

In my opinion none of them will become mainster. Big projects that do a lot of more stuff are adding ID verification to their platforms. Stratis and ICON already ahve this.

I‘m in selfkey invested and think its the most better token than thekey. I did the kyc of both tokens and selfkey did perform much better than thekey. Thekey was absolutely chaos and their tech seems not really faithful. In addition there was this topic about copied contents in the whitepaper. All in all selfkey seems to me the much better project.

Here are some of the differences between selfkey and the key which was posted from an selfkey telegram admin:

TheKey is focused on China ID, although Chinese were not eligible to participate in the sale.
Unlike TheKey, SelfKey has an ID/KYC working technology used by several fintech startups and token sales such as Airswap, Aditus and Polymath. SelfKey ID wallet, besides securely access ID documents, also supports ETH and any ERC-20 token.
Main advantage in my own opinion: The SelfKey marketplace!

Any thoughts about ontology.networks?

Exactly, and the project of TheKey is crap, i prefer selfkey instead of the other copycat.

This is almost the same thing tha that happened with Dadi - SOMN; only that this is pretty different since they copied the entire project.

I do not know, but why the fuck do they have similiar names? They are not even original at all.

I've chosen TheKey(TKY) and Selfkey(KEY) my next crypto in my portfolio.
Thanks! I like the NEO structure and China tokens.

Thanks for the nice analysis of all three. Selfkey is already up any times
from ICO prices. Got some selfkey.

SelfKey has the most potential if they attain their roadmap targets. It's much more powerful than Civic with selfkey you can even apply for citizenship in various countries. I'm wary of anything NEO based as NEO is indivisible how can it be traded efficiently?

I`m participated on the KYC.legal ICO, because I finde the Concept interesting and I like Coins/Tokens wich gave me the Opportunity to generate a passiv income.

https://kyc.legal

If all goes as planned, SelfKey will be listed on Kucoin in little over an hour.

If you are thinking about creating an account on the exchange, feel free to use my referral link:
https://www.kucoin.com/#/?r=E3IGjK

Selfkey ICO sold out after 11 Minutes. Gonna be at Kucoin TOMORROW. crazy.

I am preparing to invest in Thekey because the potential of this project is highly appreciated and very difficult to buy. I'm sure Thekey will be very hot tomorrow because the ICO focus will focus on this huge project and the starting price on the x10 exchange

The major difference in TheKey is the NEO structure of it. Nothing else. I don't think these teams have different things too much. They're very similar. CVC has the advantage of being first I believe.

Just compare Selfkey and TheKey.

I trust Selfkey more, TheKey copied the idea of Selfkey that means they don't have creativity to improve the project in the future if other teams don't do it.

But, Chinese knows how to hype any project up, so the price may be higher then SelfKey.

So I'll invest both, one for $$$ one for the future.

I will go with thekey and selfkey after reviewing this ICO, I can see the potential, experience and there's a lot of people who want to invest.

I think Selfkey will pick up much momentum when the crowdsale starts next week. Like most recent (well prepared) ICO's it will go fast....

Doesn't say anything about the final product or the potential of all three...I think TheKey will also go great....and maybe I will get aboard both ...

I think it's KEY

AstronautCapital invested in KEY. They have not failed me yet

I am going with self key project.. There is a bit of confusion regarding thekey out as they seem to have reduced the crowdsale cap from 70000 neo to 10k neo

Personally i prefer thekey as they have already a lot of fundamental experience

As for me,  all of them are just a weak shadows of something GREAT, that will turn our world into cyberpunk era. Biometric verification will include DNA rapid analysis, and those projects with that feature will rise and rule.

I choose CIVIC. A great project with a great CEO and team. Perhaps not a very large growth is expected from her. But it is a reliable asset to invest in if long. Capitalization of 300 million, but I think soon will see it in milligram list

I am more favorable towards selfkey and thekey. Not much positive/constructive updates from the Civic development except all the roadshows they have been involved in.

BTW, thanks NexXon for the summarise of the three.

https://i.imgur.com/GvqrBUY.jpg

No but seriously, THEKEY seems to have copied SelfKey and thrown in a huge marketing budget.

Check this Reddit Conversation (TheKeyVip is Catherine herself, failing to answer the prickly question)
https://www.reddit.com/r/THEKEYOFFICIAL/comments/7m86sc/submit_your_questions_for_the_thekey_ama_on_mvp/ds6744v/


They dont even seem to have a working blockchain yet. Better stay with SelfKey, less marketing, more product

Why should it be a failed system? Maybe its not 100% perfect but in the current developement situation of cryptocurrencies it is the best system possible. Maybe there will be some new innovations in the roadmaps once they are released.

I think I'll go with Selfkey for this time. TheKey is also promising but the cap for crowd sale is hilariously low with 10.000 Neo while max cap for each person is 10 NEO....telegram group has 25k members btw

Hard to pick the winner beforehand but all these projects should do well. Bigger short-term gains will
 be in both the *KEY* ICOs since investors will look for CIVIC like rise.  There are  more similar ICOs
e.g. kyc.legal and DID that may be worth looking into (ICO details on icobench.com).

But you forgot to say that TheKey is having a huge marketing campaign at the moment, that is the first reason of why it would be much more succesfull than the other ones, because they are applying zero marketing on their whole project.

I don't think anyone will be winner because biometric verification is a failed system. It's not trusted, not secure.
TheKey has the potential because it's in NEO blockchain but in the long term I see all of them will fail.

I don't know why one of them only can win you see multiple of every other coin out there therefore I am gonna go against the grain and say all 3 will succeed because identities are important and they have one of the biggest if not the biggest use case in the world. I wish to see all 3 succeed because success for them means success for blockchain!

Can help with Thekey.vip WL+KYC\WL accs. just ping - [email protected]

Woohoo! CVC. I love this coin. Hope everyone reads this 

My guess that the selfkey will become a winner, as you can see not all of the neo based project raised a lot of interest after that goes to the market. because ethereum platform gives the more guarantee about the global adoption and that gives the more opportunity for us to get the more money from there. I think selfkey should become a reasonable choice.

i have the same question like you. Hard to know, all of them are in progress, but CVC already had product, a little bit advantage.

I think KNY is more important than ever, so all coins/tokens with the goal to make identity verification easier should be welcome (especially in the area of ICO's)

Made a short research but couldn't determine the real winner:

Selfkey:
- based on ETH +
- huge team
- one advisor is founder of IOTA +
- working demo product +
- acting globally +
- medium market awarness (small telegram group in comparison to TKY) -
- favorable ICO price -> huge room to grow ++

TheKey:
- based on NEO (don't know if good or bad) +/-
- only focussed on chinese market but chinese people are not allowed in ICO?! -
- high market awarness +
- good team (Catherine Li) +
- political connections and patents +
- favorable ICO price -> huge room to grow ++

Civic:
- based on ETH +
- Vinny Lingham hype +
- longer on the market BUT imo not much "progress" -
- high market awarness but not much room to grow in the current state imo -



So KEY and TKY should be better IDV projects in my opinion and both will have an ICO this month. So which one is better in your opinion and why?