Topic: Sell and Buy Services Here (Read 288 times)

I am big fan of Fiverr since it started its successful ascent in the world of freelancing and I am still a member of the site up to now though I am not active anymore. Fiverr is a great trailblazer a great pioneer specially in the aspect of reaching more people and lowering the price category. However, Fiverr is not the be-all of cheap freelancing as you are pointing out as there are still many kinds of services that Fiverr is not into...and this is where other players can come in. I love your idea of expanding the coverage area and make the fees aligned with the industry. I am wishing you all the luck and always make your project viable so it can last.

This kind of idea is bigger than an individual in my own perspective. You need collaboration and partnership to get noticed in this space as there are many giants that are doing well in the type of solution you are offering. If you want to tackle their deficiencies,  userbase matters. Do a well thorough reseach

However, if you sell all sorts of nonsense, then you will be quickly banned ...

In any case, I have the tools to screen out all kinds of psychopaths. I think this will increase the competitive advantage of your platform.

I think the same could be said about opaque resolution systems as well. I've seen nonstop talk about how PayPal has ruled incorrectly and all they're given is a generic mail response. A centralised system like PayPal is subject to social engineering and there are plenty of guides on it.

For those reasons, I feel a voting system is best. Most people are going to choose the correct answer when it is warranted. Bad dudes are going to be malicious regardless of if there's a public or private system. I want to make things better for the well-intentioned user.

While no system is perfect, I feel like we can always improve. The public voting system is no holy grail by no means, but I do consider it an improvement over what exists now.

Thanks for the good comment!


The person who does the work is responsible for their own quality of work. It would be no different if you rang up a company or if they offered services on Taskly. We don't take any responsibility for the final products. It's up to the user to do their own due diligence and ensure that they are confident in who are they are getting services from. Similar to how eBay isn't responsible for what sellers send to people.


I agree. I feel like there's a few good ideas in the cryptosphere but it's quite complex for the average person to get a grasp on. Pushing forward for public acceptance is the best thing we can do currently.

Here is another point: employee certification. This is the most important part when choosing a service. How responsible is the person I let into my house to fix the plumbing?

I can offer valid psychological tests and a person’s testing procedure to cut off abnormal behavior and apparent abnormalities.

Any vote based system is not a correct system for dispute resolution.Public opinion can be very biased and sometimes easily swings with some events.
You need fact based evaluation system but I guess  by mediating in deals you will easily become party to the law suits. 

You'd have to combine many services into a decentralised platform like this.

Decentralised reputation score, decentralised insurance contracts, decentralised community moderation...

Every aspect of the centralised version you'll have to take into account one way or another.  There are big projects working on each of these main aspects, but they are far from consumer friendly at this early stage.

He wouldn't last long. He would have to risk so much that it wouldn't be economical. No system is perfect. PayPal lets plenty of scammers go. I want to try reduce that number to a point that it's unsubstantial.

So all Quickseller has to do is scam for more than he will spend on voting?

Won't work - scammers will find flaws in any automated system.

They will have to put some stake behind their votes. They couldn't just vote. They would be required to put some money behind each vote. If they lose they will lose the amount of currency they put in. But that's just one side of the equation.

There will be a feedback system as well. So there will be some preventative measures taken by the user to make sure that they do a good job in practice.

Hi ! I'm just a new member
I like your ideas but in fact to operate this system we have to rent people, develop website,,, so on
the ideal should be lowest fee market as posible, with full support custumer service

So a person like Quickseller who would make multiple voting accounts could scam freely?  How would you "vet the voters" without manual investigation?

Most of the time you wouldn't need an independent figure. Most transactions will go smoothly. What you need to watch out for is the 1% which go awry. This could be because they're looking to exit scam, they're new accounts, or just generally being unpleasant.

If there is an issue, all it takes is one side to open up a dispute. It will then be up to both sides to present their case as best they can. This will be publicly laid out for people to vote on. Voting won't be free or up to abuse. There will be a certain stake involved. If side A wins over side B, side A get the funds of side B. This will disincentivise risky votes (devil advocates or those taking their chances), botting, and just silly gamblers. It will be up to the people to publicly decide who is right.

I devised this system as an alternative to a PayPal dispute system. If you have any experience selling or buying online, they can be a real pain. They're opaque, vague, centralised. They don't let you in the know or to even fairly present your case. There is plenty of exploitation and even social engineering by illegitimate users to abuse this system. With my plan I hope to reduce that abuse substantially if not totally.

There would be a dispute system. If an issue arises, the two must make their cases. It will then be up to the public to vote based on the stories told. This is better than an opaque system like PayPal which would centrally decide on who they think is right. It will be fairer, more accurate, less centralised.

Or the home owner refusing to pay because the lawn wasn't cut "correctly".

Such a "service of services" would have too much manual input to work... Not to mention lawsuits....

Basically you want to create a smart contract of services. Release money when work is done.
I see problem in this model that who will independently verify that lawn is mowed properly and payment should be released?
How can system stop service taker abusing the system?

The platform will just be a mediator in a sense. It's each person's job to make sure they're qualified to actually offer services within specific categories.

Will you offer insurance like Uber does?  How will you vet the babysitters?  You don't offer security - just accountability. 

I was just using the mowing thing as an example. You would be able to use the website to see any tenders for services you could offer. It could range from dog walking, auto repair, carpeting, child care, basically any service you can think of. The website isn't designed to cater towards any specific jobs like Uber, Lyft Fiverr or Freelancer. It's meant to be a universal platform where anyone could offer services safely and with a form of security. You could also request services if it's not available.


I'm not all that fond of ICOs. Far too dodgy and if I were to be legitimate I don't have the purchasing power to pursue doing one.

It will take a lot to reach a bunch of people. In my mind I had a dream of pressing a button and all the attention in the world flooding in. But it's not that easy unfortunately! I've never done promotion. Since it's a unique niche it will take a while to get its own bearing as well. At the same time I need to be prudent with my finances.

Any project that lists it's only difference as "cryptocurrency" will not succeed.  :/

They will be using cryptocurrency man so that will be a kind of different. But you are right the idea is great, its like a one-stop general merchandise  in cryptocurrency but it will take a lot to reach it all. I wonder if they will be conducting ICO for this project too to raise fund because I’ve seen some ICO’s about projects related to this but not as a whole like home repairs and carpentry offers, plumbers and electricians but not general services. There was one Russian project that conducted ICO also similar to this, but they also have real estate, dating sites, restaurants and also services offered. Well,  Good luck to this project if they’ll be successful.

I'm pretty sure there's a reason there isn't one website that offers all these things. You need a massive, and then i mean a massive userbase for this.
But websites where you can hire carpenters & cleaners, well they do exist. CL etc.
Also, ever heard of Uber or Lyft? I sincerely doubt you can compete with them in the transport sector.

And.. a task for mowing your lawn? Again, you'd have to have a massive and specialized userbase before those kinds of offers make sense imo. And without a lot of capital, i don't see how you can get there. (Not to mention as to whether or not people actually want such a service.)

I've had an idea for the longest time about creating a service where people can buy and exchange services. The idea doesn't sound all that complex but I've actually done a lot of research and tried to find services in a practical sense and it's actually quite a tough market. I've found the current market to be far too limited in scope and availability. That's why I've created a new company and invested hundreds of hours into creating a new website where people will be able to offer and buy services online.

The problem I've always found with getting services online is how fractured the market is. When it comes to providing goods, the internet is brilliant. There's the choice of Amazon, eBay, various other online stores. You're able to easily find and sell goods. When you go to find services there's websites like Fiverr, Freelancer then forums like BitcoinTalk and the lot. It's not exactly easy to find a simple marketplace where you can offer the services of your choice and pricing.

I've included Fiverr as a good benchmark of what they offer versus my own idea. Fiverr is a pretty reliable website if you're simply wanting some online services like graphic design. The amount of categories they can offer is limited by the way it is simply designed. It's designed for not much more than graphic design, copywriting or video editing. The pricing structure is pretty narrow and the fees are exorbitant. You're looking at a 20% fee ($1) on a $5 purchase and that's just as the buyer. The seller also has to pay a fee as well. Why should they be getting $2 in fees from just a $5 sale?

My idea has been to create a marketplace where anyone can offer the services they want. The purpose is to simply be a platform to conduct the exchange of services. What the seller and buyer wants is up to them. It's not simply limited to online things like graphics, copywriting and other mere online tasks. It can be expanded to offline services like taxiing, transport, house maintenance. For example if you want a kid to come mow your lawns, you can put up a tender for the equivalent of $20 and they can accept or negotiate the price, once they do the work the money is released to them and you can give feedback. The same idea applies for all services done on the website. It's simply presented in a template like this:

Listing
    |
    v
Offer
    |
    v
Agreement
    |
    v
Payment
    |
    v
Feedback

It really is that simple. That means you can use this service not just on your computer, but also on your phone. It doesn't get much easier than that.

What does this have to do with Bitcoin? This project is best to work with Bitcoin. We're putting work into the hands of people, why not their earnings as well? This is really the service we need so Bitcoin can rise again. It will attract attention, make people rich, will provide a boost to the economy, will keep people employed. Most importantly, it will provide a vital way for people to break free of the fiat system and move to crypto. It be a simple, practical way of bringing Bitcoin into people's everyday life. They'll love it.

I call this product Taskly. We're a New Zealand company. We're not open yet as we're just seeing how much attention we can gauge so far.

If people are interested in more information about it, please email me or shoot a private message. I check both everyday. I can't wait to hear back from you.