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Topic: selling my mined btc for euro instead of usd (Read 4956 times)

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December 23, 2014, 07:23:59 PM
#60
That's not change something if you sell your mined btc for Euro instead of USD. Euro, like USD now are not strong, and it's the same thing, whatever you choice. Only one thing that you can do is HODL for better time, if you can.
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December 23, 2014, 02:31:47 PM
#59
euro is at its low price against USD
so if you convert your bitcoin to euro then possible that your money will grow when euro rise up and you will get more USD then current price
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December 23, 2014, 02:28:17 PM
#58
Wouldn't it be better for me to sell my mined btc for EURO instead of USD?? I typically sell the mined product on coinbase.

would appreciate any and all thoughts.

thanks!

EURO is not so different from USD. But one good thing of EURO is that EURO is more strong than USD (which in last time is only paper, IMHO). But, I can advice you (if you can naturally) to wait for better time, because now price is so low for sell :/
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December 23, 2014, 10:38:56 AM
#57
Don't sell for euro/dollar. Buy as much you can with BTC, helping the btc-infrastucture! Smiley
Seems like you're a senior member now Wink
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December 23, 2014, 10:03:30 AM
#56
Don't sell for euro/dollar. Buy as much you can with BTC, helping the btc-infrastucture! Smiley
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December 12, 2014, 03:38:03 PM
#55
The euro is weak lately. Take USD.
Yes, buy high, sell low!
Grin

No, better keep all the coins and only convert just enough to pay the electricity bills and hardware.
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December 12, 2014, 03:18:49 PM
#54
Better to keep money that you can use in a case of emergency if you are in the euro zone having USD is toilet paper
when EUR may fill a tank of gas
same in the US u can use Euro to wipe your A@#$( in case of emergency
Also the same with bullion coins
Sovereigns can be used in most parts of the world when not so popular in the US






 i always the remember the 5B

bullion
blonds
beans
bullets
bible / books

and in our case in a BTC forum

Bitcoin added to the 5Bs
legendary
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December 12, 2014, 07:43:02 AM
#53
It will depend where you live - if in USA, then you will use USD of course, if in Europe - then EUR can be sometimes handy. If in other world parts or you are goind spend in the Net - then once again USD. Mostly all people in the Net are using USD, except may be Europe - when they are also using EUR.

There is no fundamental difference between EUR and USD. Both are fiat, easily manipulated.

Not to mention that USD and EUR are freely convertible and liquid markets. So effectively, there is no difference.

exactly no difference between the two, you could also chose gbp, and it would be the same
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Atdhe Nuhiu
December 12, 2014, 07:18:44 AM
#52
I did not see someone was talking about small money.

If it is small money, nobody gives a shit about it.
If it is bigger money, then everybody can use forex or transferwise.com etc.

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December 11, 2014, 08:34:31 PM
#51
It will depend where you live - if in USA, then you will use USD of course, if in Europe - then EUR can be sometimes handy. If in other world parts or you are goind spend in the Net - then once again USD. Mostly all people in the Net are using USD, except may be Europe - when they are also using EUR.

There is no fundamental difference between EUR and USD. Both are fiat, easily manipulated.

Not to mention that USD and EUR are freely convertible and liquid markets. So effectively, there is no difference.
This is not true. Like you have with any market, you will have trading costs. If you spend money in US dollars, but sell your bitcoin for Euros then anytime you want to spend such money you will need to trade your Euros for US dollars and pay some kind of trading fee. The competition for trading small amounts of forex is not very high so you will likely incur costs of several percent
legendary
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December 10, 2014, 11:43:08 PM
#50
As long as you have convertible currencies, there is no problem.

Just be away from EM.

The only people trading in EM currencies would be people in EM.
There is no danger of people in developed countries selling bitcoins for EM currencies.
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December 10, 2014, 03:29:13 AM
#49
As long as you have convertible currencies, there is no problem.

Just be away from EM.
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December 09, 2014, 04:01:37 AM
#48
It will depend where you live - if in USA, then you will use USD of course, if in Europe - then EUR can be sometimes handy. If in other world parts or you are goind spend in the Net - then once again USD. Mostly all people in the Net are using USD, except may be Europe - when they are also using EUR.

There is no fundamental difference between EUR and USD. Both are fiat, easily manipulated.

Not to mention that USD and EUR are freely convertible and liquid markets. So effectively, there is no difference.
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December 08, 2014, 11:10:11 AM
#47
It will depend where you live - if in USA, then you will use USD of course, if in Europe - then EUR can be sometimes handy. If in other world parts or you are goind spend in the Net - then once again USD. Mostly all people in the Net are using USD, except may be Europe - when they are also using EUR.

There is no fundamental difference between EUR and USD. Both are fiat, easily manipulated.
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December 08, 2014, 09:05:16 AM
#46
It will depend where you live - if in USA, then you will use USD of course, if in Europe - then EUR can be sometimes handy. If in other world parts or you are goind spend in the Net - then once again USD. Mostly all people in the Net are using USD, except may be Europe - when they are also using EUR.
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December 03, 2014, 04:30:41 PM
#45
If your concept is buy at the lowest price then euro is the option. Usd is rallying against all currencies right now. If buying based on trend then basically you are going against the flow. Either way it still goes back to similar like betting euro against usd. Hope you've made the right choice. Heard they say the usd rally is just at its beginning

You never know for sure when exchanging currencies was it dollar to euro or GBP or something else.
But like he said if you are for lowest price then euro for sure.
Q7
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December 03, 2014, 09:31:09 AM
#44
If your concept is buy at the lowest price then euro is the option. Usd is rallying against all currencies right now. If buying based on trend then basically you are going against the flow. Either way it still goes back to similar like betting euro against usd. Hope you've made the right choice. Heard they say the usd rally is just at its beginning
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December 03, 2014, 03:55:21 AM
#43
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If I were you,  would invest the money into some free time and reading books/forums or just thinking about the world. The answer you are looking for should be somewhat very clear. If it is not, you have lot to learn.

You said it nicely.
Read inform yourself invest borrow give with interest many possibilities.

You need to find it for you what is best and what makes you more money or BTC or some other crypto.
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December 03, 2014, 03:52:14 AM
#42
when you bet money you essentially bet everything. remember that.

This is something that my dad tell me all the time.

But your choice what you want to do with mined BTC sell or hold.
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December 02, 2014, 12:04:01 AM
#41
don't keep any euro!
euro is going to down like hell, just keep your bicoin or if you really need to exchange them for usd

i live in EU...
and unfortunately I have to confirm..
we are goin to test the 10 years bottom level...

maybee... 1.2

here ten years of EUR/USD


These kinds of charts can be somewhat misleading as their scale can be change to make it appear more volatile then it really is. In reality the Euro has only been within 15%~ or so of both it's all time high and all time low of the dollar since it's inception. Your chart implies that it's value has changed much more then that
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November 30, 2014, 01:39:34 PM
#40
It does not matter if you want to hold Euro, USD, Gold, BTC or you invest the money elsewhere (for example into other people).

What matters is what you want to do with the money. Between USD and EUR is almost no difference, you can always exchange one to another for very low cost, both are fiat money, both are legal tender, both regulated etc.

If you need to buy fiat money, then ask yourself for what purpose:

If it is for consumption, buy the currency you are spending.
If it is for business, buy the currency in which you do the business.
If it is for savings then diversify the portfolio.

If I were you,  would invest the money into some free time and reading books/forums or just thinking about the world. The answer you are looking for should be somewhat very clear. If it is not, you have lot to learn.
legendary
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November 29, 2014, 03:17:36 PM
#39
Not sure what you are asking here.

I deal with dollars, bitcoins and euros.

The exchange prices are almost the same with the exchange rate.

I have found that there is a high demand in Europe for getting your euros into bitcoins as most exchanges make it very difficult.

But it helps to take out what you use to pay for things.

Then again, you should not be selling your mined btc.

when you bet money you essentially bet everything. remember that.
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November 29, 2014, 02:25:57 PM
#38
I've experienced a very nice passive profit thanks to the bullrun the dollar is experiencing (I've stayed mostly in fiat since the China bans), I began trading in usd for liquidity and I stayed because it's appreciation against the EUR was an unexpected nice side effect.
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November 29, 2014, 05:05:28 AM
#37
Maybe best thing now os try to invest in some other crypto.
What  is right at the moment no one knows, is it to sell it to buy it or to invest.
Think that we are in some middle state and soon something will happen was is bad or good.
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November 29, 2014, 05:02:45 AM
#36
Sell if you want for what you want.
My advice dont sell yet w8 for some pumping on price and then sell if you want or invest now in some other alt.
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November 27, 2014, 04:59:46 PM
#35
don't keep any euro!
euro is going to down like hell, just keep your bicoin or if you really need to exchange them for usd

i live in EU...
and unfortunately I have to confirm..
we are goin to test the 10 years bottom level...

maybee... 1.2

here ten years of EUR/USD

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November 27, 2014, 03:25:10 PM
#34
The safest option is always to diversify. Get both currencies, $ and €. Some Swiss francs and British pounds are also nice.

I disagree. It is most likely best to sell your mined bitcoin for your local currency (the OP appears to primarily buy things in US dollars) assuming that it is stable. It is generally expensive to buy and sell various currencies (you will generally lose between 1 and 5 percent by exchanging currencies on a small scale) so any "protection" you get from this diversification would result in you paying more in fees then your EV of diversifying your currency
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November 26, 2014, 04:28:03 PM
#33
If you need a  strong currency,   then use Australian dollar.
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November 25, 2014, 01:33:10 PM
#32
EUR is trash these days. Get on some migthy dollar, it cant fail.

dollar may be mighty, but it's trash also

both are bad
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November 25, 2014, 12:06:15 PM
#31
leen93,

I agree with you that if something goes up does not have to come down just because it went up. Companies and currencies go belly up. So yeah I agree there.

So forgive me if I made it sound like the auroras to come up just because.

But the truth is that there are many reason why the euro will eventually head up in the next year. And without getting into much discussion I said that it will go up.

Printing Money so far has worked for USD. Which is the strongest fiat at this moment. Would it run forever up? of course not.

QE worked for US, I am betting Euro will also work.

Someone mentioned that if you don't need to sell, don't. And I think maybe that is OP's 1st step.
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November 25, 2014, 08:08:17 AM
#30
EUR is trash these days. Get on some migthy dollar, it cant fail.

That is why you want to invest in Euro... because it is trash now.

Buy High Sell Low Much?

How low is low and how high is high?

Trend trading is much better and you can make up the profit difference by winning more often.

I would disagree.. Trend trading will drive you to make more trades than you need to. And to secure a profit you will have to be right on every or most trades. The probabilities of that happening are low.

The reason I say buy Euro or Yen or Ruble is because they are priced at years lows. And we know neither of those currencies are going belly up. You may not see a return profit in a month or two months but you will get more ROI in the long run. And you won't have to be glued to your screen every day. Unless that's what you like...

But I will agree with you that if you are into day trading or swing trading, buy when they buy and sell when they sell. Just because day traders can do it fast enough.


It's not sure the dollar will go down against those currencies, it's not because it went up it will go down, if Europe, Japan... keeps making more money than the US does the dollar will keep rising. If you like to forex trade anyways, u can do that with bitcoin (everything stays in bitcoin, so if EUR/USD raises 0.5% with 200 leverage you get back double the amount of bitcoins or opposite) : https://1broker.com
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November 25, 2014, 08:00:29 AM
#29
don't keep any euro!
euro is going to down like hell, just keep your bicoin or if you really need to exchange them for usd
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November 25, 2014, 07:59:40 AM
#28
Why dont you keep it in your currency?
Perhaps it better or try something else.

Dollar is good, Euro is lame for me.
But if you can use some other currency perhaps GBP if you can.
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November 25, 2014, 07:57:32 AM
#27
I prefer EURO cuz im from Europe.
 But further more i like past time when DM was meaning to pay all over the Europe.
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November 24, 2014, 08:44:05 PM
#26
The safest option is always to diversify. Get both currencies, $ and €. Some Swiss francs and British pounds are also nice.


I agree with diversification in general but the idea above is terrible.

In the case of currencies you are pretty much generating a Zero Net Return. For instance the dollar goes up, the euro goes down. And viceversa, that is how it works.

Yes, that's the plan. Commodities traders excepted, nobody sees fiat money as an investment. The idea is only to safeguard your cash against the sudden drop of a given currency. If you have a large sum of money to invest, there are other options than cash, but that isn't the question here.

Trading forex can be seen as an investment. Buy $1000 USD worth of Rubles now. And wait a year and sell back to USD. I bet you will be making 30% ROI easy. The reason: Russia hoarding gold to protect their economy and OPEC may cut oil production and oil may stabilize or get to $80 a barrel.

But yes, we are diverging from OPs question.

I guess I would answer yes, sell Bitcoin for Euros and save them for half a year. You would be getting 307 Euros per today's BTC price.

We are at almost all time historical USD to Euro rates. And Euro is about to approve their own version of quantitive easing. Which saved USA, should also save Europe from a crisis. I bet you can also get about 20% ROI.

But then again, at these bitcoin prices... why sell?




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November 24, 2014, 06:45:37 PM
#25
The safest option is always to diversify. Get both currencies, $ and €. Some Swiss francs and British pounds are also nice.


I agree with diversification in general but the idea above is terrible.

In the case of currencies you are pretty much generating a Zero Net Return. For instance the dollar goes up, the euro goes down. And viceversa, that is how it works.

Yes, that's the plan. Commodities traders excepted, nobody sees fiat money as an investment. The idea is only to safeguard your cash against the sudden drop of a given currency. If you have a large sum of money to invest, there are other options than cash, but that isn't the question here.
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November 24, 2014, 06:09:22 PM
#24
I think there is a problem that if the Bitcoin mining, currency exchange rates used is other than the US dollar, for example, the euro, the euro is now becoming one of the major competitors in terms of currency for European countries, it was made to drop the dollar dominance world, if you are using the euro as currency exchange rates on your mining, then it can increase price competition between the dollar and the euro, hopefully bitcoin prices will further increase and stable ...  Cool

Wow... you really think a crypto coin with a market capital of less then $5 Billion USD can drive the price of a currency like the Euro ? (or any currency for that matter.)

Dreaming pretty high here! So high the line is a point.







I mean when we mine bitcoin will not be a problem if we change the price of mining bitcoin exchange into euros, the price of the current euro exchange sdh almost equal dollar even more
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November 24, 2014, 03:45:58 PM
#23
I think there is a problem that if the Bitcoin mining, currency exchange rates used is other than the US dollar, for example, the euro, the euro is now becoming one of the major competitors in terms of currency for European countries, it was made to drop the dollar dominance world, if you are using the euro as currency exchange rates on your mining, then it can increase price competition between the dollar and the euro, hopefully bitcoin prices will further increase and stable ...  Cool

Wow... you really think a crypto coin with a market capital of less then $5 Billion USD can drive the price of a currency like the Euro ? (or any currency for that matter.)

Dreaming pretty high here! So high the line is a point.





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November 24, 2014, 03:31:43 PM
#22
I think there is a problem that if the Bitcoin mining, currency exchange rates used is other than the US dollar, for example, the euro, the euro is now becoming one of the major competitors in terms of currency for European countries, it was made to drop the dollar dominance world, if you are using the euro as currency exchange rates on your mining, then it can increase price competition between the dollar and the euro, hopefully bitcoin prices will further increase and stable ...  Cool
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November 24, 2014, 03:23:32 PM
#21
EUR is trash these days. Get on some migthy dollar, it cant fail.

That is why you want to invest in Euro... because it is trash now.

Buy High Sell Low Much?

How low is low and how high is high?

Trend trading is much better and you can make up the profit difference by winning more often.

I would disagree.. Trend trading will drive you to make more trades than you need to. And to secure a profit you will have to be right on every or most trades. The probabilities of that happening are low.

The reason I say buy Euro or Yen or Ruble is because they are priced at years lows. And we know neither of those currencies are going belly up. You may not see a return profit in a month or two months but you will get more ROI in the long run. And you won't have to be glued to your screen every day. Unless that's what you like...

But I will agree with you that if you are into day trading or swing trading, buy when they buy and sell when they sell. Just because day traders can do it fast enough.

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November 24, 2014, 01:54:17 PM
#20
EUR is trash these days. Get on some migthy dollar, it cant fail.

That is why you want to invest in Euro... because it is trash now.

Buy High Sell Low Much?

How low is low and how high is high?

Trend trading is much better and you can make up the profit difference by winning more often.
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November 24, 2014, 12:04:13 PM
#19
Vote for : US $
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November 23, 2014, 10:05:20 PM
#18
The safest option is always to diversify. Get both currencies, $ and €. Some Swiss francs and British pounds are also nice.


I agree with diversification in general but the idea above is terrible.

In the case of currencies you are pretty much generating a Zero Net Return. For instance the dollar goes up, the euro goes down. And viceversa, that is how it works.

Diversification that works would be buying into a currency, then into a commodities like coffee, and then get some equities like stocks in Apple.
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November 23, 2014, 08:23:24 PM
#17
The safest option is always to diversify. Get both currencies, $ and €. Some Swiss francs and British pounds are also nice.
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November 23, 2014, 04:37:42 PM
#16
EUR is trash these days. Get on some migthy dollar, it cant fail.

That is why you want to invest in Euro... because it is trash now.

Buy High Sell Low Much?
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November 23, 2014, 03:05:12 PM
#15
EUR is trash these days. Get on some migthy dollar, it cant fail.
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November 23, 2014, 01:59:35 PM
#14
To OP,

your profile says you live in New York... so why buy Euros?

The USD is very strong and may get stronger against Euro an other currencies. But perhaps, if you don't need the money right away, you may want to sell the Bitcoin to Euros, or even Japanese Yen. Something that has been beaten up. And wait until these currencies bounce.

If you feel like you can place  riskier bet, I would trade them to Russian Rubles and wait a year or so to triple your money Smiley



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November 23, 2014, 01:58:26 PM
#13
Why would Euro be any better than USD? It's both worthless fiat money.

Unless you're in the Euro zone there's no advantage.

Better sell them for precious metals. Or just keep Bitcoin and spend them directly on things you need.

ya.ya.yo!

Is there a way to buy metals directly with btc??

Yes! In fact precious metals were among the earliest goods offered for bitcoin.

For example:
https://www.amagimetals.com/
Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/amagi-metals-best-prices-of-gold-silver-for-bitcoins-130831

Just as an example - I'm not endorsing this particular dealer, there are a lot of other options to buy gold/silver with bitcoin. Just search around.

ya.ya.yo!
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November 23, 2014, 11:34:37 AM
#12
Does it really matter if you sell it in Euro instead of USD?
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November 23, 2014, 11:31:55 AM
#11
i like localbitcoins. did many eur trades their: but i guess it depends on your location and volume
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November 23, 2014, 11:26:17 AM
#10
Why would Euro be any better than USD? It's both worthless fiat money.

Unless you're in the Euro zone there's no advantage.

Better sell them for precious metals. Or just keep Bitcoin and spend them directly on things you need.

ya.ya.yo!

Is there a way to buy metals directly with btc??
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November 23, 2014, 04:23:48 AM
#9
Wouldn't it be better for me to sell my mined btc for EURO instead of USD?? I typically sell the mined product on coinbase.

would appreciate any and all thoughts.

thanks!

It depends on which one you think will apreciate more in price
Considering the Eurozone and the USD are both in a mess of sorts
I would say go with the dollar for now but if the arbitrage gets significant switch.
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November 22, 2014, 08:03:11 AM
#8
Why would Euro be any better than USD? It's both worthless fiat money.

Unless you're in the Euro zone there's no advantage.

Better sell them for precious metals. Or just keep Bitcoin and spend them directly on things you need.

ya.ya.yo!
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November 22, 2014, 06:22:07 AM
#7
Our trouble isn't explaining this to children, they'll be able to learn about it on their own, the trouble is the grown adults who are in total denial about it.
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November 21, 2014, 01:24:22 PM
#6
If you're asking if you should hold some euro instead of USD, that might not be a bad a choice.
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November 21, 2014, 10:19:21 AM
#5
like it has been said fees fees fees but arbitrage
between currencies and btc can be very profitable
and at most times can be up to 5% to 10%
As bitcoin makes larger gains it can take some time for all currencies to correct their value
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November 21, 2014, 10:07:35 AM
#4
Not sure what you are asking here.

I deal with dollars, bitcoins and euros.

The exchange prices are almost the same with the exchange rate.

I have found that there is a high demand in Europe for getting your euros into bitcoins as most exchanges make it very difficult.

But it helps to take out what you use to pay for things.

Then again, you should not be selling your mined btc.
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November 21, 2014, 04:40:06 AM
#3
Is it because of the higher price? The verification process of other exchanges may be more difficult than coinbase's. If you choose to exchange it to eur, wire transfer and currency conversion fees may apply. it can take some percentage of your payout.
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November 21, 2014, 04:33:37 AM
#2
I think It should depend what currency you are using to pay for the electricity and overhead of mining business.
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November 20, 2014, 02:17:58 PM
#1
Wouldn't it be better for me to sell my mined btc for EURO instead of USD?? I typically sell the mined product on coinbase.

would appreciate any and all thoughts.

thanks!
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