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Bitcoin is decentralised, not controlled by any one entity. It’s part of the reason why it’s unlikely to see any other crypto spot etf approved any time soon. I actually don’t think others should he approved, how do you approve a spot etf for a coin or token like ethereum when it’s largely controlled by one individual who can burn active supply coins at any time? It’s too open for manipulation & it’s why the SEC is unlikely to be in a rush to approve any others.
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SEC Chair Gary Gensler was against Bitcoin SEC approval and he was trying his best to avoid it but the interest of Blackrock and pressure from outside forced him to take this decision and accept Bitcoin ETFs. Now senators pressure him not to approve any more crypto ETFs because it would expose investors to risks.

Ethereum is the most popular cryptocurrency after Bitcoin, and the Ethereum ETF application is awaiting the SEC's approval. What do you think, will the SEC approve Ethereum if there is a pressure from big corporations like BlackRock?

Read the news - https://cointelegraph.com/news/senators-urge-sec-gary-gensler-reject-further-crypto-etfs

They can demand it, but.... American law and courts of course have their own "tricks", but ... You can't just call and say "Ban it because you can't, because someone doesn't like it". In order to ban - you must first prove contradiction to the legal framework. And then there's case law. This is about the fact that the ETF Bitcoin allowed - why not allow / prohibit the same decision for Efirium !?? So most likely they will have to allow it, or try to prevent it for a very long and ineffective time. But it will not end in favor of SEC and those who want to ban it

To be fair, I don't like to get more ETFs approved for a long time. Recent ETF approval process showed how easy it is to speculate Bitcoin and SEC chair was really right when he said it's an easily speculated coin. SEC is also another problem, they intentionally leaked the ETF approval post to manipulate the market and probably they made money in this process or if it's true what they claimed about twitter account hack, then they are too stupid.

At the moment I think that if Blackrock, Vanguard and similar organizations demand any process, it will be fulfilled. Blackrock plays with billions of dollars and I believe these mega-corporations control the world and not some old men sitting in chairs. It's a pity for me to see how rich people play with cryptocurrencies.
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SEC Chair Gary Gensler was against Bitcoin SEC approval and he was trying his best to avoid it but the interest of Blackrock and pressure from outside forced him to take this decision and accept Bitcoin ETFs. Now senators pressure him not to approve any more crypto ETFs because it would expose investors to risks.

Ethereum is the most popular cryptocurrency after Bitcoin, and the Ethereum ETF application is awaiting the SEC's approval. What do you think, will the SEC approve Ethereum if there is a pressure from big corporations like BlackRock?

Read the news - https://cointelegraph.com/news/senators-urge-sec-gary-gensler-reject-further-crypto-etfs

They can demand it, but.... American law and courts of course have their own "tricks", but ... You can't just call and say "Ban it because you can't, because someone doesn't like it". In order to ban - you must first prove contradiction to the legal framework. And then there's case law. This is about the fact that the ETF Bitcoin allowed - why not allow / prohibit the same decision for Efirium !?? So most likely they will have to allow it, or try to prevent it for a very long and ineffective time. But it will not end in favor of SEC and those who want to ban it

well eth is pos

btc is pow


eth has zero infrastructure not in complete control of a hand full of people.

Mr V. has spent some time with Putin publicly all reasons to say eth is a piece of shit.

time will tell as to how long the usa can prop up th dollar.

grab some popcorn and watch the show.
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Lawmakers saying they are worried about risk and the market is quite interesting if you ask me. We could argue they must feel scared of what could happen to the North American Markets when the bear market within the cryptocurrency market starts and investors started to see all their investment decreasing in value at a very rapid pace.
Volatility within the value of Bitcoin and Ethereum is not the same one can see with stocks, for example, so one can understand how those lawmakers are worried about how an over exposure of the public to this assets/investment tools could make millions of people to loose their savings.
Though, if you want my opinion, it would be just matter of time because the ETF for Ethereum gets approved, because of the pressure of the big companies and eager investors, looking to capitalize of this bull market we are witnessing right now.

The crypto market is not for everyone though, that is something I keep in mind when I see some steps into bigger adoption for those who have never interacted with BTC or Ether, one needs to be ready to witness much volatility and not only upwards.
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SEC Chair Gary Gensler was against Bitcoin SEC approval and he was trying his best to avoid it but the interest of Blackrock and pressure from outside forced him to take this decision and accept Bitcoin ETFs. Now senators pressure him not to approve any more crypto ETFs because it would expose investors to risks.

Ethereum is the most popular cryptocurrency after Bitcoin, and the Ethereum ETF application is awaiting the SEC's approval. What do you think, will the SEC approve Ethereum if there is a pressure from big corporations like BlackRock?

Just having one approved is all the start it needs. If it is able to keep going for weeks, months and years - it will inevitably lead to more coming on to the market, because it shows there is demand which can prop it up and it might actually reduce the volatility in bitcoin as it reaches higher numbers. Even if no more ETF's get approved in the short term, I would expect other companies like Vanguard to come along and try to emulate the existing Bitcoin one and the SEC would be enforcing a monopoly unless they approved it. It's possible the Ethereum ETF gets rejected, just to appease some stuffy old politicians, but it would be a small price to pay for the Bitcoin one going from strength to strength, and it could be attempted again later.
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SEC Chair Gary Gensler was against Bitcoin SEC approval and he was trying his best to avoid it but the interest of Blackrock and pressure from outside forced him to take this decision and accept Bitcoin ETFs. Now senators pressure him not to approve any more crypto ETFs because it would expose investors to risks.

Ethereum is the most popular cryptocurrency after Bitcoin, and the Ethereum ETF application is awaiting the SEC's approval. What do you think, will the SEC approve Ethereum if there is a pressure from big corporations like BlackRock?

Read the news - https://cointelegraph.com/news/senators-urge-sec-gary-gensler-reject-further-crypto-etfs
If we talk about the risk of all the stocks and or derivatives that exist it is a risk pool in the financial world, we don't know if the company will go bankrupt or whatever it is that will happen in the future with its value center, so the BTC ETF decision is very good for people who can't hold their own BTC, IMO.

And I'm pretty sure ETH is the second viable candidate for ETF trading, after all ETH has tremendous intrinsic value in the crypto market and we call it a bluechip as a smart contract pioneer, I'm pretty sure eventually Garry Gensler will also accept ETH ETF for trading but it may still take time, we know that Bitcoin alone took a very long time to get approval from the SEC to trade spot ETF.
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i think that it's just drama, they pretend to reject ethereum etf, or crypto in the form of other etfs, but in the end they will still accept it, because it is money, who doesn't want money? moreover, senate members also have their own interests and as long as blackrock and other etf providers are willing to pay them a number of benefits, it will be impossible for them to change course and instead support ethereum etf. it was only a matter of time for that to happen.

it's all just an act. if they say it could be approved by the date, everybody will be buying ETH right now and the price will skyrocket before it's even approved. it's not gonna look good for the traders within the institutions.

what they could just do is Gensler rejecting them. but I'm guessing Vanguard, BlackRock and all the rest have been buying ETH as well that's why the price already touched 4k. i think the ETFs will be approved in May.
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i think that it's just drama, they pretend to reject ethereum etf, or crypto in the form of other etfs, but in the end they will still accept it, because it is money, who doesn't want money? moreover, senate members also have their own interests and as long as blackrock and other etf providers are willing to pay them a number of benefits, it will be impossible for them to change course and instead support ethereum etf. it was only a matter of time for that to happen.
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I did mention before now that approving any more ETFs should take time because Bitcoin ETF just got approved and it needs to play well for them to have the trust to keep going. They definitely wouldn’t want to make a decision that they would regret later. If they don’t slow down, from Bitcoin ETF to that of Ethereum, and maybe they’ll see more reasons to keep going. If rejecting Ethereum ETF means they are taking it slow and steady, then that’s fine. If everything goes well, they’ll approve it sooner or later.
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As long as Bitcoin EFT have been approved, Ethereum ETF will also get approved sooner or later and that might be the only two crypto currency that is best for ETF. Crypto investment is a risk, not only crypto but every other asset that has the possibility of constantly experiencing a changes in price, I read many people comment on this forum telling others to learn about any asset they want to investe in. With ETF or without ETF, cypto remains a very volatile asset and investors should agree to accept the risk before investing.
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Good news! I fully support this decision. If us or any other countries can decide not to approve any further crypto exchange traded fund, it will be great for the crypto community. Bitcoin will be saved from being a centralised instrument controlled by big financial corporations.

Bitcoin is not meant to become a tool for the corporates. It is a people's money and it should remain that way. More ETF means more corporates controlling more Bitcoins. Surely I wouldn't want that!
I'm not sure you get the idea here. ETFs aren't necessarily causing bitcoin's decentralization, cause if that was the case then it would've been decentralized years ago from the sole fact that MicroStrategy is buying off everyone's crypto holdings since 2014 if I'm not mistaken.

Furthermore, ETFs aren't necessarily selling these people bitcoin, yes the investment firms hold a substantial amount of bitcoin to support their buyers but at the end of the day, these schmucks aren't getting anything besides a paper that says they hold "this much bitcoin in BlackRock's keep", which doesn't really inspire confidence especially if you're someone who's been in and out of the crypto industry already. It's not becoming a tool for the corporate, it's becoming a full-fledged financial tool as it was meant to be years ago. You gotta understand that if you're asking for global adoption here, you're also going to have to deal with companies and corporate agencies wanting to have a piece of the pie, and in my opinion that's okay than this industry becoming a joke outside in and a small group of people who understands only themselves and no one else.
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[....]because it would expose OLD SCHOOL investors to risks.
Fixed it hehe.

All I can see is that these senators and their campaign sponsors or "buddies" are still moving into crypto and they want to halt the impending pump of these coins as a result of the ETF approval. It's not like SEC will simply approve some random pump and dump coins.
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SEC Chair Gary Gensler was against Bitcoin SEC approval and he was trying his best to avoid it but the interest of Blackrock and pressure from outside forced him to take this decision and accept Bitcoin ETFs. Now senators pressure him not to approve any more crypto ETFs because it would expose investors to risks.

Ethereum is the most popular cryptocurrency after Bitcoin, and the Ethereum ETF application is awaiting the SEC's approval. What do you think, will the SEC approve Ethereum if there is a pressure from big corporations like BlackRock?

Read the news - https://cointelegraph.com/news/senators-urge-sec-gary-gensler-reject-further-crypto-etfs

They can demand it, but.... American law and courts of course have their own "tricks", but ... You can't just call and say "Ban it because you can't, because someone doesn't like it". In order to ban - you must first prove contradiction to the legal framework. And then there's case law. This is about the fact that the ETF Bitcoin allowed - why not allow / prohibit the same decision for Efirium !?? So most likely they will have to allow it, or try to prevent it for a very long and ineffective time. But it will not end in favor of SEC and those who want to ban it
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If this is not approved, the landscape will not change much anyways. The SEC not approving any other ETFs in the mean time is honestly positive for crypto overall. It prevents huge organizations from slowly encroaching cryptospace and making everything a centralized financial instrument. Perhaps taking these approvals slowly is the name of the game and not approving them all at once.
These senators are scared that some pump-and-dump coins can also apply for ETF approval which will expose investors to high risk. Bitcoin might be volatile but it has proved over the years to be consistent and solid, we cannot say the same for other coins that might seek ETF approval. These legislators want to ensure that the SEC ensures that only trusted coins are given such approval, hence there I a need to pause approval for now.

I'm also hopeful that Ethereum ETF will be approved sometime within the timeframe that you're predicting, because it has a solid base like Bitcoin, and considering the hurdles before Bitcoin was approved, I think that Ethereum, will overcome any obstacles and be approved too. After when Ethereum, is hopefully approved, I don't look forward to other approvals, atleast not in the near future, like Solana and BNB, that are in the pipeline for approvals too, so that the ETF doesn't lose value, because as they keep approving more will be positioning to be approved too.
I support the approval of Spot ETF for Ethereum because it is the next reliable coin after Bitcoin. The SEC should consider approving it but other coins might expose investors to risk, hence the SEC needs to be careful.
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Ethereum have been waiting list altcoin will get ETF approval and the rumor published after success Bitcoin ETF approval, I can't speculated will be true or not with Ethereum become ETF approval coins because need waiting more several longer time than our expected.
Believe or not, Ethereum keep in the higher price with or not get ETF approval, actually its not really requirement with Ethereum ETF approval because ETH keep confidence raise the higher price and currently almost success break the new all time high price.

Learned with bitcoin after first time announcing with ETF approval and get down drastically I think Ethereum not really require for getting ETF approval we know how big risk waiting for later and many manipulation will make Ethereum price drop drastically.
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There is really nothing preventing Ethereum ETFs from being approved, and if they are not approved immediately, it may happen within 12 to 18 months, so it is a matter of time, but I do not expect more ETFs, especially since the majority of other cryptocurrencies do not have a solid base like Bitcoin and Ethereum, and I do not expect that. Mutual funds are enthusiastic about such assets, in addition to the possibility of purchasing them through services such as trusts or Grayscale.

I'm also hopeful that Ethereum ETF will be approved sometime within the timeframe that you're predicting, because it has a solid base like Bitcoin, and considering the hurdles before Bitcoin was approved, I think that Ethereum, will overcome any obstacles and be approved too. After when Ethereum, is hopefully approved, I don't look forward to other approvals, atleast not in the near future, like Solana and BNB, that are in the pipeline for approvals too, so that the ETF doesn't lose value, because as they keep approving more will be positioning to be approved too.
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I think that there's also someone or some big authority that's pressuring these senators that are suggesting Gensler to block the approval of the rest of the crypto ETF proposals. Most of them have their own interest and if they're saying that this is to avoid the exposure of people from risks, I don't even think that if this suggestion is coming from them, they're just trying to get into the line since the talks about election is already there and whoever they are supporting for their parties. While I am not really in favor of any other ETF than Bitcoin but if there's nothing found for the SEC to decline it, they should be rightful to any decision based on their standards and procedures for approving one.
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Bitcoin ETFs took many years to finally get approved, and Bitcoin is the #1 cryptocurrency by market capitalization and perhaps by trustworthiness as well. Ethereum is a decent currency, a strong #2. But it's pretty different from Bitcoin, and I don't know whether it makes its approval chance higher or lower, to be honest. On the one hand, it's good and reputable. On the other hand, Ethereum became a major platform for various ICOs, various scams. Considering how long Bitcoin ETFs took and how recently we got their first approvals, I think that more time should pass to actually see the full impact of that decision before any further approvals.
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Oh ok, I think this could be the possible reasons why the prices suddenly goes down to $68k. But it's only 2 Senators though, and I think I wouldn't call it a pressure but it has created a lot of noises and maybe put selling pressures in the last 24 hours.


Prices have now fallen slightly in the cryptocurrency market due to the fact that the time of price correction is coming. Bitcoin has actually been continuously rising in price since October last year and there are now many whales, and ordinary investors, who are trying to lock in their profits.

As for the possibility of approval of Ethereum-ETF spot exchange-traded funds, they will most likely be approved, if not in May, then a little later. The SEC's approval of the Bitcoin ETF was largely forced by the courts, which ruled against its director's position. This process has begun and therefore the SEC will no longer have the opportunity to reasonably resist. Moreover, Bitcoin ETFs indicate increased demand for them from investors. Therefore, the approval of ETF-Ethereum is only a matter of time.
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If this is not approved, the landscape will not change much anyways. The SEC not approving any other ETFs in the mean time is honestly positive for crypto overall. It prevents huge organizations from slowly encroaching cryptospace and making everything a centralized financial instrument. Perhaps taking these approvals slowly is the name of the game and not approving them all at once.
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the best and the best is not just any crypto is accepted. maybe those that are accepted BTC and ETH are already good and good. if all crypto is not all good crypto even scamers exist. even coins that have entered the big market like luna can sink. so ETFs must be very selective and strict.
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I think that is a delusional Effort by the two senators, yet outline a clear truth: Gary Hensley I looking for a job after the SEC, and that job might very well be in Washington. He needs a sponsor, the democrats, or rather the "Warren Democrats"  to be elected.
o he will be super careful about not pissing them off.
So the to senators will be eventually right, but not for the reasons they suspect.
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The approval of a Bitcoin ETF despite initial resistance suggests that the SEC may be open to considering crypto ETFs, provided they meet stringent regulatory standards. Ethereum presents a compelling case for an ETF, given its widespread adoption and utility beyond just a store of value like Bitcoin. If the ETF application adequately addresses the concerns and demonstrates robust safeguards, there's a possibility of approval, regardless of external pressure. The SEC might wait to see how the Bitcoin ETF performs before giving the green light to others.
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Good news! I fully support this decision. If us or any other countries can decide not to approve any further crypto exchange traded fund, it will be great for the crypto community. Bitcoin will be saved from being a centralised instrument controlled by big financial corporations.

Bitcoin is not meant to become a tool for the corporates. It is a people's money and it should remain that way. More ETF means more corporates controlling more Bitcoins. Surely I wouldn't want that!
If money can be made then more ETFs will be approved, politicians despite their claims about being convinced of a particular ideology are in fact very pragmatic, many of them are heavily influenced by all kind of corporations, so the more money that it can be made, the more pressure they will receive to approve this, just as the SEC was pressured to approved a bitcoin ETF, so even if we do not like it, we need to prepare for a future in which most bitcoin is owned by corporations.
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I doubt that insitutional investors are strongly interested in altcoin ETFs, because altcoins are poor investments - they don't have good fundamentals, they are just seasonal speculative trends and institutional investors aren't looking for that, they want something that can at least be generally predicted. Ethereum is the strongest altcoin but even it can easily fall into obscurity in a year or two when tokens will stop being popular, which is its only "use case".
This assumption is often mentioned by bitcoin maximalists - they are against altcoins and their future, but nevertheless altcoins like Ethereum can still be seen as having high prospects as profitable investment products. I'm not completely against an Ethereum ETF - it's probably useful for most investors, so perhaps there would be interest factors that would urge the SEC to approve it as well instead of just bitcoin.

I'm not the only one who owns bitcoin and Ethereum right now - so I'm definitely not against the SEC approving an ETF. I hope the SEC will consider an Ethereum ETF in the near future despite the insistence against it from Senators. All investment products are risky - so I'm probably going to ignore real use cases like bitcoin has a bit when we discuss altcoins.
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I doubt that insitutional investors are strongly interested in altcoin ETFs, because altcoins are poor investments - they don't have good fundamentals, they are just seasonal speculative trends and institutional investors aren't looking for that, they want something that can at least be generally predicted. Ethereum is the strongest altcoin but even it can easily fall into obscurity in a year or two when tokens will stop being popular, which is its only "use case".
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SEC Chair Gary Gensler was against Bitcoin SEC approval and he was trying his best to avoid it but the interest of Blackrock and pressure from outside forced him to take this decision and accept Bitcoin ETFs. Now senators pressure him not to approve any more crypto ETFs because it would expose investors to risks.

Ethereum is the most popular cryptocurrency after Bitcoin, and the Ethereum ETF application is awaiting the SEC's approval. What do you think, will the SEC approve Ethereum if there is a pressure from big corporations like BlackRock?

Read the news - https://cointelegraph.com/news/senators-urge-sec-gary-gensler-reject-further-crypto-etfs

As much as US senators can be annoying after seeing how they were attacking the CEO of tiktok and calling for ban of Tiktok completely, I think Blackrock is doing everything to milk all the US investors that are having interest in cryptocurrency. Their next target of ETF product is ethereum and if he lobby Garry Gensler more, he will one day approves anything brought to his table, he doesn't have any reputation other than get lobbied and then come online to say $hit about crypto.

The way the ETF are going will one day make crypto exchanges useless because people will trust them than the way they will trust centralized exchanges and don't be surprised, ETF platforms can plan their own coup to chase away centralized exchanges so that they can be the primary exchange that offer ETF option for people that want to invest in Bitcoin and ethereum. They ready have more than half a million under their custody, we don't know what tomorrow hold with this comparnies.
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There is really nothing preventing Ethereum ETFs from being approved, and if they are not approved immediately, it may happen within 12 to 18 months, so it is a matter of time, but I do not expect more ETFs, especially since the majority of other cryptocurrencies do not have a solid base like Bitcoin and Ethereum, and I do not expect that. Mutual funds are enthusiastic about such assets, in addition to the possibility of purchasing them through services such as trusts or Grayscale.

If the crypto ETFs are against the interests of the USA in the long term and if this would harm the USD as a world currency (which is not yet certain at the moment), then the USA will intervene sooner or later and, if necessary, introduce appropriate laws.
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There is really nothing preventing Ethereum ETFs from being approved, and if they are not approved immediately, it may happen within 12 to 18 months, so it is a matter of time, but I do not expect more ETFs, especially since the majority of other cryptocurrencies do not have a solid base like Bitcoin and Ethereum, and I do not expect that. Mutual funds are enthusiastic about such assets, in addition to the possibility of purchasing them through services such as trusts or Grayscale.
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Good news! I fully support this decision. If us or any other countries can decide not to approve any further crypto exchange traded fund, it will be great for the crypto community. Bitcoin will be saved from being a centralised instrument controlled by big financial corporations.

Bitcoin is not meant to become a tool for the corporates. It is a people's money and it should remain that way. More ETF means more corporates controlling more Bitcoins. Surely I wouldn't want that!
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Oh ok, I think this could be the possible reasons why the prices suddenly goes down to $68k. But it's only 2 Senators though, and I think I wouldn't call it a pressure but it has created a lot of noises and maybe put selling pressures in the last 24 hours.

Do this two missed it? or they haven't accumulated yet? Lol.

And I think there could be political pressures now on SEC? Fraud and manipulation? How about those centuries wherein big banks in America has been accused of manipulation, given stiff penalties and yet they are still in the banking space? Double edge sword for this Senators.
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SEC Chair Gary Gensler was against Bitcoin SEC approval and he was trying his best to avoid it but the interest of Blackrock and pressure from outside forced him to take this decision and accept Bitcoin ETFs. Now senators pressure him not to approve any more crypto ETFs because it would expose investors to risks.

Ethereum is the most popular cryptocurrency after Bitcoin, and the Ethereum ETF application is awaiting the SEC's approval. What do you think, will the SEC approve Ethereum if there is a pressure from big corporations like BlackRock?

Read the news - https://cointelegraph.com/news/senators-urge-sec-gary-gensler-reject-further-crypto-etfs
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