Send MSG up to 2000 uniqe crypto oriented people for 10$ total.

Tytanowy Janusz

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Airdrop is over so I'm closing this thread. I'll just give an extra week to finish the discussion.

Quote from: buwaytress on June 21, 2020, 05:10:12 AM

How does Fairdrop solve this fraud issue though? All these SMS spoofing/VPN/Bluestack-type Android emulators still get fairly high success rates from what I noticed!

Idena is not a machine checking if machine used by human is not suspicious like others trying to solve that (user-friendly way, bot-friendly too). Idena is doing it from different angle. It requires human to prof his humanity (not user-friendly, sometimes pain in the ass but also not bot friendly). Every node that work for idena (there are 2400 of them currently) prof his humanity to others by doing Turing test (once per epoch - 13 days currently up to 30 in future). In theory, it is not possible to validate more nodes by 1 person because validation window last only 2 min (for short session for 6 tests) and then 30 min (for long session for 20+ tests). In practice people try to validate more nodes but in most cases it ends with very low score on both accounts or even lost identity. IDENA economic model is set in a way that it is more profitable to have 1 good node than 2 shitty so potential cheaters does not have financial motivation to do that. IDENA has also stake mechanism to prevent from account selling and many more interesting aspects but it is not thread about IDENA.

If interrested in IDENA:
https://idena.io/?view=faq
community made stuff:
https://idena.site/
https://idena.today/
https://idena-apps.org/

Krucifer

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Quote from: buwaytress on June 21, 2020, 05:10:12 AM

How does Fairdrop solve this fraud issue though? All these SMS spoofing/VPN/Bluestack-type Android emulators still get fairly high success rates from what I noticed!

That's the beauty of Idena Network. You can't fake being human. If you don't validate your identity during validation ceremony (which requires commons sense that AI lacks), you don't have a way to sign-in to fairdrop.io.

Or to any other service that uses Idena sign-in.

buwaytress

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Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on June 21, 2020, 01:43:31 AM

Interresting project too.
Comparison:
2key is a tool to track traffic and distribute rewards. I didn't find how 2kay adress bot issue (if it does it at all) so traffic can be fake and rewards might go to few cheaters (correct me if i'm wrong).

Fairdrop.io solve multiple entries by one individual issue. The reason why keybase has to quit its airdrop (https://keybase.io/a/i/r/d/r/o/p/spacedrop2019) - top 1 2019-2020 airdrops. So its for those who want to have good distribution of coins, real people attention.

Yeah, that's what 2key is, but as I said, it also does have an effective use case in airdropping -- just on different values -- because it seems to identify active networks and earmark them as such and at the same time address fraud. Apparently it has a large whitelisting and uses an algorithm to identify fraud signups or invalid networks by identifying follow through (so, even if one uses spoof addresses and VPNs, for example, with no follow on sharing or referring). I've tested it and the fraud seems to work, but the system is really slow and painful when mempool is slow (using smart contracts is the problem).

How does Fairdrop solve this fraud issue though? All these SMS spoofing/VPN/Bluestack-type Android emulators still get fairly high success rates from what I noticed!

Tytanowy Janusz

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Quote from: buwaytress on June 20, 2020, 02:46:15 PM

What would you say this compares to something like 2key? It's not exactly an airdrop tool, more like a referral system to help spread something far and wide, but using its mechanism to distribute rewards, it could be used as an airdrop tool that airdrops only to qualified leads.

I've also been looking into alternatives. 2key is not yet mature but the idea seems good enough for airdropping to crypto-oriented users.

Interresting project too.
Comparison:
2key is a tool to track traffic and distribute rewards. I didn't find how 2kay adress bot issue (if it does it at all) so traffic can be fake and rewards might go to few cheaters (correct me if i'm wrong).

Fairdrop.io solve multiple entries by one individual issue. The reason why keybase has to quit its airdrop (https://keybase.io/a/i/r/d/r/o/p/spacedrop2019) - top 1 2019-2020 airdrops. So its for those who want to have good distribution of coins, real people attention.

buwaytress

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What would you say this compares to something like 2key? It's not exactly an airdrop tool, more like a referral system to help spread something far and wide, but using its mechanism to distribute rewards, it could be used as an airdrop tool that airdrops only to qualified leads.

I've also been looking into alternatives. 2key is not yet mature but the idea seems good enough for airdropping to crypto-oriented users.

Tytanowy Janusz

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Quote from: layoutph on June 20, 2020, 08:51:43 AM

Thanks for the time to reply to my questions. Added this page to my browser bookmark.. Maybe we may need this service if my employer which to have an email blast with legit crypto people. Thanks

This is one-time offer. Part of first fairdrop that was ment to test things out. After it ends your employer can still contact fairdrop.io but it will be a separete deal.

layoutph

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Thanks for the time to reply to my questions. Added this page to my browser bookmark.. Maybe we may need this service if my employer which to have an email blast with legit crypto people. Thanks

Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on June 20, 2020, 02:04:50 AM

Quote from: layoutph on June 19, 2020, 09:51:39 PM

Personally I do have 100k emails of bounty hunters and theres a very small percentage of purchase when I offer something..

Yea you have a good point. It's not hard to have such list when some bounty managers puts 1k+ list of their participants with emails in spreadshit (this is outrageous).

But back to the point.

Quote from: layoutph on June 19, 2020, 09:51:39 PM

What is the assurance we can send a message to 2000 REAL people.

Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on June 19, 2020, 03:17:53 AM

They achived that by using IDENA (first proof of person blockchain). https://medium.com/@idena.network/how-idena-works-4f4d19aabbb1

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The uniqueness of participants is proven by the fact that they must solve and provide the answers for flip-puzzles synchronously. A single person is not able to validate herself multiple times because of the very limited timeframe for the submission of the answers.

The validation status of a participant is not forever. It expires when the next epoch starts. Participants should prolong their validation status for every new epoch.

https://idena.io/?view=faq#faq-pop-1

Tytanowy Janusz

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Quote from: layoutph on June 19, 2020, 09:51:39 PM

Personally I do have 100k emails of bounty hunters and theres a very small percentage of purchase when I offer something..

Yea you have a good point. It's not hard to have such list when some bounty managers puts 1k+ list of their participants with emails in spreadshit (this is outrageous).

But back to the point.

Quote from: layoutph on June 19, 2020, 09:51:39 PM

What is the assurance we can send a message to 2000 REAL people.

Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on June 19, 2020, 03:17:53 AM

They achived that by using IDENA (first proof of person blockchain). https://medium.com/@idena.network/how-idena-works-4f4d19aabbb1

Quote

The uniqueness of participants is proven by the fact that they must solve and provide the answers for flip-puzzles synchronously. A single person is not able to validate herself multiple times because of the very limited timeframe for the submission of the answers.

The validation status of a participant is not forever. It expires when the next epoch starts. Participants should prolong their validation status for every new epoch.

https://idena.io/?view=faq#faq-pop-1

layoutph

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What is the assurance we can send a message to 2000 REAL people.. The 2000 crypto oriented people are investors or bounty hunters? Personally I do have 100k emails of bounty hunters and theres a very small percentage of purchase when I offer something.. Which I could have emails of real investors capable of huge purchase.

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Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on June 19, 2020, 03:17:53 AM

Not sure if this is a good place for this thread but i would like to share an interesting option for you.

Fairdrop.io is na new project that was build to present aidrops free of bots. Thay achived that by using IDENA (first proof of person blockchain). https://medium.com/@idena.network/how-idena-works-4f4d19aabbb1

IDENA has 2400 nodes out of which 300 already registered on fairdrop.io (few days after project start, and 2 days after first airdrop announcement. This number will rapidly grow to the limit of 2400 - number of all IDENA nodes currently)

They just started with first airdrop:

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We've observed some of our community members are interested in a $dna fairdrop to understand how things work at http://fairdrop.io

So, we present you the first demo drop at http://fairdrop.io

Calling out all enthusiastic community members to pool in $dna.

Ending a long admission by going to clue:

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Every sponsor(donation amount >=100 $dna) will have a dedicated paragraph in the announcement message that goes to all the registered users.

Please provide the below details, if you are a sponsor, here or in DM

- name
- a 2 or 3 sentence text
- a link to twitter or any profile of your choice

100 DNA is equal to 9$ at current price.

Didn't think about that use case. Like it :-) It makes sense.

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Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on June 19, 2020, 03:17:53 AM

Not sure if this is a good place for this thread but i would like to share an interesting option for you.

Fairdrop.io is na new project that was build to present aidrops free of bots. Thay achived that by using IDENA (first proof of person blockchain). https://medium.com/@idena.network/how-idena-works-4f4d19aabbb1

IDENA has 2400 nodes out of which 300 already registered on fairdrop.io (few days after project start, and 2 days after first airdrop announcement. This number will rapidly grow to the limit of 2400 - number of all IDENA nodes currently)

They just started with first airdrop:

Quote

We've observed some of our community members are interested in a $dna fairdrop to understand how things work at http://fairdrop.io

So, we present you the first demo drop at http://fairdrop.io

Calling out all enthusiastic community members to pool in $dna.

Ending a long admission by going to clue:

Quote

Every sponsor(donation amount >=100 $dna) will have a dedicated paragraph in the announcement message that goes to all the registered users.

Please provide the below details, if you are a sponsor, here or in DM

- name
- a 2 or 3 sentence text
- a link to twitter or any profile of your choice

100 DNA is equal to 8$ at current price.

I didn't think about the opportunities here, good point.

Tytanowy Janusz

legendary

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Merit: 1622

Not sure if this is a good place for this thread but i would like to share an interesting option with you.

Fairdrop.io is na new project that was build to present aidrops free of bots. They achived that by using IDENA (first proof of person blockchain). https://medium.com/@idena.network/how-idena-works-4f4d19aabbb1

IDENA has 2400 nodes out of which 300 already registered on fairdrop.io (few days after project start, and 2 days after first airdrop announcement. This number will rapidly grow to the limit of 2400 - number of all IDENA nodes currently)

They just started with first airdrop:

Quote

We've observed some of our community members are interested in a $dna fairdrop to understand how things work at http://fairdrop.io

So, we present you the first demo drop at http://fairdrop.io

Calling out all enthusiastic community members to pool in $dna.

Ending a long admission by going to clue:

Quote

Every sponsor(donation amount >=100 $dna) will have a dedicated paragraph in the announcement message that goes to all the registered users.

Please provide the below details, if you are a sponsor, here or in DM

- name
- a 2 or 3 sentence text
- a link to twitter or any profile of your choice

100 DNA is equal to 9$ at current price.

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