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Topic: Serious Questions About Shuffle.com (Launched by FTX Employee) (Read 795 times)

legendary
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I have a question about this whole situation. If all this information was available before you posted here or if you were the first to put it in the public domain, correct me if I am wrong but there is not much more that can be done now that various law enforcement agencies are aware of it. If they do not feel anything criminal has taken place then what chances do you have in any future litigation?

Any chance of an eth address with some history before the FTX collapse? Because what I see is a large deposit from an exchange that funded his current known wallets. Very sus if you ask me.
newbie
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but before reading this thread how many people knew about the connection?
It was never a secret. Noah himself has talked about this in a video. He left FTX in 2021 while FTX issue happened on 2022.

Any chance of an eth address with some history before the FTX collapse? Because what I see is a large deposit from an exchange that funded his current known wallets. Very sus if you ask me.
newbie
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What appears to be the case is that you have reported this allegation/matter to the Department of Justice corporate whistleblower section. If they follow this up and conclude that something untoward did occur, it could have serious ramifications for both the company that owns the businesses but also the individual (owner) too. What would be an acceptable outcome for you?

Yes thank you for asking the very important question of how to rectify the dispute(s). It is actually a very simple request, one that I believe any person would assume is adequate and shouldnt have to fight or argue or put another person down based on their protected classes e.g. Seek help, seek god, mental health, crazy etc. This is wild to use as a blanket to excuse terrible behavior.

1. Obviously, the full and correct payment for the earnings generated, waiving all the fees for the delays.
2. Compensation at the fair market rate for the interest over the very large span of time, I am not a bank and I don't generally give loans. But there are lots of banks that will and they charge a steep premium.
3. PorterRobinson would like you to make a public apology (his demand, not mine though I can take or leave this).
4. In case(s) of account closure, there needs to be a wallet connect element created so that users who's accounts have been disabled can claim their Airdrops and Commissions, because nobody on this planet deserves to be shorted in such a despicable way unless they somehow cheated. I lost probably $70,000 of my hard earned cash trying to enjoy the platform whilst also generating a substantial profit margin for you.
5. In good faith, Shuffle should KYC any person who generates $SHFL or % commission rates in any amount. This is a no-brainer if you truly value creators and want to have transparency when it boils down to the huge amount of people that have claimed unjust enrichment. MandyCalmDown as much as I cant stand her like everybody else she dedicated a huge amount of effort to you, and this just is wrong on many levels. If accounts are closed for KYC issues, this should only be reserved if a user knowingly provided you fake or false documents.
6. KYC needs to be automated, manual reviews are costly and inconsistent, in addition to prying human eyes with respect to my actual identity and other information that I just don't like to hand out to strangers on the internet.
7. Several players I have identified who were placed into contact with Shuffle's employees and were not properly credited to the source of their traffic should also be corrected.
8. Damages/Lost Revenue: from #2 and #7, there are very clear losses due to the events. Its not far fetched to see that if you don't pay your employees, they in turn will be unable to pay their creditors and fulfill their promises. It can cause irreparable damage to a persons reputation, future ventures, and destroy their lives in so many ways, perhaps put yourself in somebody's shoes whom you have taken adverse action who didn't cheat you, steal or otherwise take advantage of you, why would you cut them off from their profession out of spite?

If I haven't been very clear with why I believe these 8 requests must be met, consider the fact that despite earning shuffle more than 400k~ from the players who were on my campaign, I did it in less than 2 months, and I did it while I was homeless. I am actually still homeless and this only made everything so much worse. Why am I homeless? Because I worked and launched for 2 other casinos and late in 2022 after not receiving our entire staff's payroll, I check and I found $16,000,000 deficit / missing money. The owner embezzled and lost it. My credit which was immaculate up until working here plunged from a nearly 800 to low 500s. If I had 1,000,000 today I would still be in this position because no creditor is going to lease me a fucking thing short of paying off what I owe, and I sure could have done that and more. I'm so angry, hopefully this explains why I am so driven to hold you accountable, this should be a moment for me to celebrate and enjoy time with friends, but the fact is I don't have any as a result of all the events taking its toll on all of my relationships. The good news is though I did manage to have that other casino shut the fuck down, and this wasn't for me, it was to protect anybody else from ever falling victim to them again. Just like shuffle, we had a contract, I delivered on my promises and in the end there was no compensation. This was a written agreement that was breached, and I learned a valuable lesson here too. I don't need to pay again to learn that a person who doesn't value their workforce is the equivalent of a modern day slave owner https://x.com/Jandrew_Tate/status/1857247772652539945

-J

P.S. My next project will be $BiC NFTs in collaboration with other creators in the space. I value everybody enough to treat them fair and with respect. Dont blur the lines ever, and you will live a very happy and fulfilling life without having to worry when DOJ is going to kick your door in with M-16s at the ready, and this is advice coming from somebody who actually has experience enough to offer the advice I have given.

https://x.com/BiC_Coin_NFT
legendary
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What appears to be the case is that you have reported this allegation/matter to the Department of Justice corporate whistleblower section. If they follow this up and conclude that something untoward did occur, it could have serious ramifications for both the company that owns the businesses but also the individual (owner) too. What would be an acceptable outcome for you?

I’m way too busy to take on something like that but I have done one much better
https://imgur.com/a/NQETz0x

Why waste my time suing for what they owe plus damages, I’d rather sue for %25 of assets seized and forfeitures over $1,000,000. From a business perspective it’s more lucrative and plus Noah can know what it’s like to spend 20 years in prison where there is no internet access and hope he finds a new sense of appreciation for the people he partners with either directly or otherwise.
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If that is true and you have solid evidence as well as conversations where the owners/operators of Shuffle are admitting to shady practices, why are you wasting your time here when it will be better for you to collate all available evidence and send it to as many crypto related websites as possible. If you are taking the moral high ground on transparency then you should publish all the evidence you have because until/unless that happens, it will be difficult to believe any accusation.

I have solid proof and also conversation from Noah himself admitting to shady practices. Nobody brought this into account when citing transparency.

I’m way too busy to take on something like that but I have done one much better
https://imgur.com/a/NQETz0x

Why waste my time suing for what they owe plus damages, I’d rather sue for %25 of assets seized and forfeitures over $1,000,000. From a business perspective it’s more lucrative and plus Noah can know what it’s like to spend 20 years in prison where there is no internet access and hope he finds a new sense of appreciation for the people he partners with either directly or otherwise.
legendary
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If that is true and you have solid evidence as well as conversations where the owners/operators of Shuffle are admitting to shady practices, why are you wasting your time here when it will be better for you to collate all available evidence and send it to as many crypto related websites as possible. If you are taking the moral high ground on transparency then you should publish all the evidence you have because until/unless that happens, it will be difficult to believe any accusation.

I have solid proof and also conversation from Noah himself admitting to shady practices. Nobody brought this into account when citing transparency.
newbie
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Alright, I know who you are after your latest message, and I no longer believe that you're acting with good intentions for the community. This thread exists to attempt to tarnish Shuffle's reputation because you are regularly muted for being incredibly toxic to our staff, our platform and our players.

Brett doesn't owe you any response after some of the things I've seen you say about and to him. Please either send some form of proof that any of our hosts have not acted in the interest of responsible gambling, or close the thread. This will be my last reply, I would recommend that no one else in this thread give any more time to this guy until he provides some form of indisputable proof (which I'm confident won't come, because our hosts take player welfare incredibly seriously).

 

Let’s talk about good intentions as you close accounts while citing geography restrictions and yet you are obviously looking away when it comes to specific players who have influence and affiliates.

https://imgur.com/a/ZxYt08q
Secret Service anybody?
newbie
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Thank you for your response. I appreciate your willingness to engage in this discussion and your dedication to transparency. However, I have a few points and concerns that I feel need to be addressed:
I think you already got your answers and you also admitted the transparency of Noah and now it's useless to ask those questions. I suggest you to close the thread and be a gentle person and when you have any kind of solid proof against Shuffle only then create scam accusation against them.

I have solid proof and also conversation from Noah himself admitting to shady practices. Nobody brought this into account when citing transparency.
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https://x.com/spadeallin/status/1848396994869375393?s=46

“oh @itsKursed and @shufflecom yall are wrong for denying money laundering. All good tho very scummy if you ask me. :O”

@secretservice
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That platform token interests me. I am assuming i am "mining" it by gambling? Does the size of my airdrop depend on how much i gamble and on which games?
Also it would be nice to read a whitepaper, or any paper about tokenomics and everything about it to make a decision if it's good enough reason to gamble in your casino before it launches.

More details will be released soon, it's safe to assume that your play on Shuffle will contribute directly to the size of your airdrop. Updates will be announced on our Twitter.



A sample of the user defending shuffle here on this topic before blocking me just like shuffle:
SupItsJ
Hi mouse
16:33
Have some time maybe today?
17:40
Little_Mouse
In reply to this message
hey
17:40
SupItsJ
Hi
17:40
Can we call or is text preferred
17:42
Little_Mouse
Text
17:42
SupItsJ
Hmm ok it’s a lot
17:43
I’ve know t.me/robinsonporter for 3 years from stake he is known as many names
17:44
I’m the fourth player under his campaign on shuffle because he paid me to after asking him to help based on my previous success and programming skills to team up on shuffle with his efforts.
17:45
He is like the left hand man with cam Brett and Noah. He has screwed me behind my back this entire time and not ever received a single share. He also has started stealing my ideas with the use of telegram automation rather than just paying or partnering with me like he’s promised
17:45
This has of course bled over to others like 15 people accused him of fraudulent representation and just shitty things like removing players from affiliates through a wide array of dirty tricks
17:46
My first player was the owner of Nexo exchange and I should have made more than 30 to 100k alone from this single player
17:46
Monthly
17:46
Little_Mouse
Hey
17:46
SupItsJ
Noah 22.07.2024 00:56:46
- you've claimed $7,961.19 USD from wager share
- your NGR from March 9th onwards is $160,233.93 USD, admin fee to cover provider costs is usually 20% but I'll halve it for the delay, so campaign NGR is $144,210.53
- 25% share is $36,052.63 USD

Total owing is $28,091.44 USD
17:46
Noah 22.07.2024 00:57:11
Note that I'm only doing this because the line is slightly blurry, and I can see where you're coming from - we would not usually bounce between the two after the fact
17:47
SupItsJ
Noah admitted and paid me partially after pretending to be rich and defending myself
17:47
Little_Mouse
I have nothing to do with this
17:47
In reply to this message
fake noah 😂
17:48
SupItsJ
I understand but you should have all of the facts my friend before jumping to their defense as I work very hard to get by in life after I did time and got out with nothing 6 years ago for my involvement with the Silk Road
17:48
The last person I want to involve in my affairs is court systems or people like you. All due respect
17:49
I think everyone agrees unnecessarily bringing attention to industry is bad practice for everybody
17:50
Little_Mouse
Well, I dont know what you are talking about. I'm not interested as well.
17:50
SupItsJ
Fine then be uninterested on btc talk as well
17:51
Little_Mouse
Of course NO
17:51
I'll be there
17:51
SupItsJ
Obviously
17:51
Little_Mouse
In reply to this message
this
17:51
you skipped
17:51
SupItsJ
No it isn’t I have the convo and the txid
17:52
Little_Mouse
Then why I cant access this account? I have chat with real noah.
17:52
SupItsJ
6d36734db850fb9a52b2eb8fef8e1f16972f829f3c1820e119fb21a3e99e93b3
17:53
He hides his account with a permission for premium users
17:53
Little_Mouse
Really?
17:53
SupItsJ
Yes
17:53
Or he did at the time it was forwarded
17:53
Little_Mouse
I'm premium user + I have been chatting with Noah for more than a year.
17:53
SupItsJ
Ok forward a message
17:54
Little_Mouse
I have real Noah message
17:54
In reply to this message
No way
17:54
I got you sir
17:54
SupItsJ
t.me/noahdummett
17:54
The account I used it’s on my Mac I will show you it’s upstairs
17:57
SupItsJ
Cermin 21.10.2024 16:22:03

mo wd buat makan2 pas anak bontot ultah wkkwkw gagal gara2 si tolol shuffle wkwkkw
17:57
SupItsJ
hmmm ....
17:58
SupItsJ
Cermin 21.10.2024 16:21:06
dah cape aku chat support ktnya cek cek manual kalo dah update tar dikabarin
18:01
SupItsJ
Cermin 21.10.2024 16:10:49
si janin keknya kena juga 30 hari wkwkwkw.. ada juga bule di grupnya si vived kena jug 30 hari di shuffle
newbie
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I do not know why the OP felt the need to create this thread and I do not know why more allegations are being made by a newbie account without any evidence being presented to support them.

It seems the general idea of this thread was to connect Shuffle to FTX via the owner and that connection has been established. Having said that, though the Shuffle owner was an ex-employee of FTX there was no sign or evidence presented that he participated in any nefarious conduct while being their employee. Furthermore, the same applies to when he became an ex-employee.

My account isn’t new and neither are these allegations, I have been pretty vocalized about them for quite some time and even Twixer posted about porterRobinson in his channel which who has ever questioned his reputations for scam allegations? Look for my threads on casino guru and trust pilot as they go back very far. Thank you though for again dismissing dishonest behaviors.

If this still isn’t enough then maybe twitter posts now for the past #DAY41 might open your eyes some, and if all else fails just know Noah is willing to spend $1m on shuffles domain and I picked up noahdummett com for just ten bucks.

Or how about the hundreds of times I have attempted to solve this leading up til this post?:

Event   Date   Person   Description   Proof?   Files
1   1/27/2024   Tommy alias for someone   Contacted Tommy via email regarding his schizophrenic tendencies      
2   2/11/2024   Cam   Contacted Cam to inquire about partnerships, discussed I was on rev share with stake and he offers to get me in the shuffle partnerships program under %25 rev share      2-11-24 CamShuffle.zip
3   2/14/2024   TrustPilot   Posted on trust pilot about Tommy and Shuffle scamming.      
4   2/23/2024   Cal, Cam   Pretended to be a porn star to get a response      2-23-24 Nadjia X Shuffle.zip
5   3/6/2024   Cal   Contacted via linkedin and was direct with the request about improperly set campaigns.      
6   3/6/2024   [email protected]   Contacted via email about the terms of my campaigns not properly set, email went without reply      
7   3/8/2024   Shaan Puri   Contacted Via LinkedIn since he had recently posted and interviewed ishan plus ishan worked for him before.      
8   3/9/24   Cal   Contacted Cal thru linkedin and moved conversation to telegram regarding missed commissions      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
9   3/9/2024   Cam, ExoGaming, CAYC   Contacted Cam and placed ExoGaming into chat with him regarding getting a deal for CAYC and SchneckyIRL with shuffle      3-9-24 Cayc x shuffle.zip
10   3/9/2024   Cal   Telegram discussing %30 RS.      
11   3/17/2024   Cal   Contacted on telegram still incorrectly set campaigns. At this point in time my campaigns were at -179k NGR or more, but I had made less than $1,000.      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
12   3/20/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah on telegram asking for meeting to correct errors.      Brignac X Noah.zip
13   3/21/2024   Cal   Contacted on telegram still incorrectly set campaigns.      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
14   3/29/2024   Cal   Missing commissions due to incorrect campaigns.      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
15   4/5/2024   Cal   Contacted about porter scamming players thru misrepresentations, and bans.      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
16   4/6/2024   Cal   Contacted on telegram still incorrectly set campaigns.      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
17   4/6/2024   Cal   Contacted about porter scamming and bias influence, and bans.      
18   4/13/2024   sterlingshere   Contacted Sterlings on discord in Bazaar.money      
19   4/13/2024   sterlingshere   Contacted Sterlings on discord in Bazaar.money      
20   4/22/2024   Cal   Contacted on telegram still incorrectly set campaigns. He admits here the probationary period wasnt set until March 12.      "Yes sorry correct that link will be from today when that was changed from Wager Share the rev-share. The wager-share commission should have auto claimed for you.
Total NGR on that campaign for August is about $9k"
21   4/22/2024   Cam   Contacted about bans.      2-11-24 CamShuffle.zip
22   4/23/2024   sterlingshere   Contacted Sterlings on discord in Bazaar.money - got banned for telling them they were scammers for pretend AFKing      
23   4/29/2024   Cal   Contacted on telegram still incorrectly set campaigns, and bans.      
24   5/2/2024   Cam   Contacted about bans and commissions.      2-11-24 CamShuffle.zip
25   5/9/2024   Cam   Bans. Cam tells me here that I am allowed to have alts so long as I dont abuse chat.      2-11-24 CamShuffle.zip
26   5/10/2024   Cam   Bans.      2-11-24 CamShuffle.zip
27   5/15/2024   Cam   Bans.      2-11-24 CamShuffle.zip
28   5/18/2024   Cam   Bans.      2-11-24 CamShuffle.zip
29   5/22/2024   CasinoGuru   Posted on Casino Guru and detailed the reasons I was being harassed and acosted for my cmmissions      https://casinoguru-en.com/forum/casinos/shuffle-casino---general-discussion/2#post-120731
30   5/22/2024   CasinoGuru   Posted on Guru regarding scams and bs.      
31   6/25/2024   Ishan   Contacted Ishan on Discord, he blocked me without replying.      
32   7/2/2024   Cam   Bans, and predicted that my accounts would be disabled before the airdrop due to all the red flags.      2-11-24 CamShuffle.zip
33   7/14/2024   [email protected]   Contacted shuffle about player kcazzy - did not respond.      
34   7/17/2024   Cam   Used alt account to contact Cam asking about myself and my stolen commissions      7-17-2024 Cam X Brignac.zip
35   7/17/2024   Cam   Contacted Cam about commission from alt.      2-11-24 CamShuffle.zip
36   7/20/2024   compliance   Contacted licensing about being misled and ripped off.      
37   7/21/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah about not having my commissions due to them never being correctly set. Argued with him but he listened and I proved to him that there was promised rev share and he agreed but only paying less than half the total debt accrued.      "Noah X Brignax.zip - Accounts who were not credited: Wormy
SchneckyIRL
BrignacX
CodeCompilerGS
ReachAces
IvanIRL
ExoGaming
Kcazzy
KodaGambles
Karma"
38   7/21/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah pretending to be influential about my commissions and errors.       Brignac X Noah.zip
39   7/21/2024   Cam   Contacted Cam about commission from alt.      
40   7/21/2024   compliance   Contacted licensing about being misled and ripped off.      
41   7/29/2024   [email protected]   Contacted support about stats, email wasnt replied to.      
42   7/30/2024   Cal   Contacted Cal to correct errors      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
43   7/31/2024   Cal   Contacted Cal to correct errors      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
44   8/6/2024   Cal   Contacted about errors yet again after Noah paid me for some of the previous.      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
45   8/6/2024   Noah   Paid for commissions Mar 9 Thru Aug 8 $28,000 - Still not the full amount.      Brig X Noah.zip
46   8/6/2024   Cal   Contacted Cal to correct errors      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
47   8/8/2024   Cal   Contacted Cal to correct errors      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
48   8/9/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah about errors and Cal unresponsive      Brignac X Noah.zip
49   8/12/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah about errors and Cal unresponsive      Brignac X Noah.zip
50   8/13/2024   Cal   Contacted Cal to correct errors      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
51   8/14/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah about errors and Cal unresponsive      Brignac X Noah.zip
52   8/14/2024   Cal   Contacted Cal to correct errors      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
53   8/15/2024   Cal   Contacted Cal to correct errors      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
54   8/17/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah about errors and Cal unresponsive      Brignac X Noah.zip
55   8/17/2024   Cal   Contacted Cal to correct errors      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
56   8/20/2024   Cal   Contacted Cal to correct errors      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
57   8/21/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah about errors and Cal unresponsive      Brignac X Noah.zip
58   8/24/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah about errors and Cal unresponsive      Brignac X Noah.zip
59   8/25/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah about errors and Cal unresponsive      Brignac X Noah.zip
60   8/25/2024   Cal   Contacted Cal to correct errors with regard to players who signed up without credit to my campaigns      3-9-24 CalumShuffle.zip
61   8/27/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah about errors and Cal unresponsive      Brignac X Noah.zip
62   8/28/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah about errors and Cal unresponsive      Brignac X Noah.zip
63   8/28/2024   TrustPilot   Trust Pilot about scams and bullshit staff. Updated from Dec. 2023      
64   8/30/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah about errors and Cal unresponsive      Brignac X Noah.zip
65   8/31/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah about errors and Cal unresponsive      Brignac X Noah.zip
66   9/1/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah about errors and Cal unresponsive      Brignac X Noah.zip
67   9/2/2024   Noah   Contacted Noah about errors and Cal unresponsive      Brignac X Noah.zip
68   9/9/2024   TrustPilot   Trust pilot post removed.      
69   9/11/2024   TrustPilot   Trust pilot post removed.      
70   9/11/2024   [email protected]   contacted support to dispute account closure      
71   9/12/2024   Secret Service   Contacted Secret Service Crypto Crimes Desk      
72   9/13/2024   TrustPilot   Trust pilot regarding account closure, replied back that I threatened them      
73   9/14/2024   Secret Service   Contacted Secret Service Crypto Crimes Desk      
74   9/16/2024   AffPapa   Contacted AffPapa regarding getting scammed by shuffle.      
75   9/18/2024   TrustPilot   Trust pilot regarding account closure, replied back that I threatened them      
76   9/18/2024   ACMA   Contacted Australia Consumer protection agency.      
77   9/19/2024   GCB   Contacted GCB about getting scammed by fraudsters.      
78   9/20/2024   GCB & shuffle   Contacted GCB and shuffle about getting scammed by fraudsters.      
79   9/22/2024   Legal Consult   [email protected]      
80   9/23/2024   Secret Service   Contacted Secret Service Crypto Crimes Desk      
81   9/24/2024   [email protected]   contacted support to dispute account closure      
82   9/24/2024   Secret Service   Contacted Secret Service Crypto Crimes Desk      
83   9/26/2024   TrustPilot   Trust pilot regarding account closure, replied back that I threatened them      
84   9/27/2024   GCB   Complaint to GCB about shuffle scamming.      
85   9/27/2024   GCB   Submitted a complaint with GCB from [email protected]      
86   10/2/2024   Secret Service   Contacted Secret Service Crypto Crimes Desk      
87   10/2/2024   Nancy Pelosi   Submitted a case request with Rep. Pelosi      
88   10/3/2024   TrustPilot   Trust pilot regarding shady calculations      
89   10/3/2024   Secret Service   Contacted Secret Service Crypto Crimes Desk      
90   10/4/2024   Secret Service   Contacted Secret Service Crypto Crimes Desk      
91   10/6/2024   __sugs   Contacted Sugs on twitter regarding porter and my compensation, not replied yet.      
92   10/6/2024   Porter   Telegram discussing missed players and earnings and misleading commission rates      
93   10/7/2024   Porter   Jokingly suggested $20 to settle, he instantly sent me $20 without even confirming if this were a serious offer. Blocked and no reply since.      
94   10/9/2024   xNext   Contacted xNext about scamming fucks at shuffle.com      
95   10/9/2024   Nancy Pelosi   Contacted Congressional Rep. Pelosi about secret service & shuffle      
96   10/10/2024   CasinoGuru   Posted on website a complaint regarding my account closure      
97   10/10/2024   Porter   Contact Porter asking for Mediation, he forced me to wait more than a week to get nowhere, in the end attempted to extort me for another %20 of any future payouts, further highlighting they are very well aware how they are fucking me and dont care.      Porter 17 Oct 24.zip
98   10/17/2024   Ian Parke   Contacted Ian asking him to mediate between Cal/Noah/Shuffle      
99   10/17/2024   Secret Service   Sent another email to CryptoFraud Desk about the stolen funds, with addresses.      
100   10/17/2024   Nancy Pelosi   Called Nancy Pelosi's Office asking for case help with Secret Service to take actions. This is the 3rd such call to her office.      
101   10/18/24   Cal   Contacted Cal asking him to reconsider his position of total ignorance to me and my ongoing unpaid commissions, message not viewed.      
102   10/18/2024   Christopher Rosnberg   Owner of xNext.io which is the holder of Shuffle's master Casino license for help with mediation.      

Licensed operators are required to list dispute resolutions process on their terms of service so no surprise that shuffle doesn’t do this rather instead they opt for the block button with the speed and urgency of a western drama gunslinger.
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I do not know why the OP felt the need to create this thread and I do not know why more allegations are being made by a newbie account without any evidence being presented to support them.

It seems the general idea of this thread was to connect Shuffle to FTX via the owner and that connection has been established. Having said that, though the Shuffle owner was an ex-employee of FTX there was no sign or evidence presented that he participated in any nefarious conduct while being their employee. Furthermore, the same applies to when he became an ex-employee.
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You can see that No likes to pay his employees on the first of each month or just before and so it’s not surprising that you would discover the same thing from FTX to their employees but there’s an even more interesting fact to find here is that there are employees working for Shuffle that were receiving money from FTX and in the same frequency and nearly in the same amount so it begs the question who is working at Shuffle from FTX [...]

Um, how is this an incriminating evidence?

Noah choose to pay his employees on the first of each month or a couple of days before instead of every other numbers available on the calendar? It coincides with FTX's payday, okay, but you do aware that it's also shared amongst like... billions of other companies worldwide?

Tons of companies choose to set certain date as their paydate [usually somewhere close to end of month] or very early of the month to simplify accounting.

Imagine a company with, let's say 100 employee [hey, a very smol company here], each employee has their own paydate. Now imagine what their book looks like. Three people have to be paid on 1st, six on 2nd, fourteen on 3rd, twenty on 4th, no one on 5th, one on 6th, ten on 7th, but hey, someone amongst ten on that 7th asked for an advance on the 1st...

Yeah, not ideal.

For this reason, companies prefer to set certain date to uniformly pay their employees. FTX and Shuffle included.
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Below is a transaction from a Shuffle employee to a Shuffle partner very early on the venture. This is highly inappropriate.
TX: 0xada623e256d1e1bccddc4921787046cb9a3855c358ebf2e42d5fcc1b5f5c391b   

What exactly is inappropriate about this transaction? How did you determine whose wallets they were and why did you contradict yourself in the next paragraph saying that the transaction is between Noah and an employee?


Noah to employee:
0xada623e256d1e1bccddc4921787046cb9a3855c358ebf2e42d5fcc1b5f5c391b

You contradict yourself again because the sending wallet, 0x465D5cA6210CecFCcad803D68E09F4035652dFD9, in the previous transaction, which you claim belongs to Noah, you then claim belongs to a Shuffle employee when they are receiving funds from FTX.


FTX to Employee:
0x572952570d95a549bade32adf40aa7d4a3fcc0092aaac0d6a1803c7433ce16cd

This wallet has also received millions of dollars from Binance. Are you going to create another alt account and claim that Shuffle is also scheming with Binance? You are just throwing random shit out there hoping to damage Shuffle and none of it is landing.
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This thread exists to attempt to tarnish Shuffle's reputation
By the way, shuffle acquired sherbet.com recently.
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Update: Brett, Cam’s Brother, and His Role at Shuffle

It has come to my attention that another key figure at Shuffle.com, Brett, is Cam's brother. Brett also holds a significant role within the company, and unfortunately, his behavior seems to mirror that of Cam, raising additional concerns about the company’s overall approach to customer interaction and community management.

In a recent review of conversations, Brett displayed a pattern of dismissiveness and a lack of accountability when handling customer issues. For instance:

- Aggressive and Dismissive Behavior: Brett, like Cam, appears to dismiss user concerns without providing adequate reasoning. In one interaction, Brett muted a user for 30 days but refused to provide a clear explanation or retrieve chat logs to justify the action, stating, "I am the one who decides whether or not something is justified to mute a player and today I decided to mute him." When pressed for screenshots or further explanation, Brett chose to disengage, saying he had "work to get done."

- Failure to Address Community Concerns: Brett also failed to properly address community feedback, leading to confusion and dissatisfaction among users. When the chat community questioned why a user was muted, Brett did not provide clarity or engage meaningfully, which only worsened the situation.

These interactions suggest a troubling culture within Shuffle, where dismissiveness and a lack of transparency are not isolated incidents but rather part of a broader pattern among key personnel. This is particularly concerning when both Cam and Brett are in positions of influence, as it raises questions about the overall management and ethical standards of the company.

Citations:

- "I am the one who decides whether or not something is justified to mute a player and today I decided to mute him." (Message ID 569611)
- "I have players to attend to and work to get done." (Message ID 569626)

but before reading this thread how many people knew about the connection?
It was never a secret. Noah himself has talked about this in a video. He left FTX in 2021 while FTX issue happened on 2022.


Brett is responsible for innappriately contacting players I placed into chats with cam and then these players were signed up while I was ignored by cam. I suspect that porterRobinson is involved due to my personal connection with him and his centric role connecting my terrible experience costing me money and the fact that he is the benefactor of other players moving to his campaigns while these staff members treated their current partners badly or ignored totally in order to onboard them.

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I am glad that you raise these important questions because I have been around the Crypto space for a very long time. I’ve never once had an accusation of not paying somebody or taking something from them that wasn’t mine to take.

My experience with Shuffle has been absolutely horrendous to say the least. Where do I even begin here? I share the same exact concerns here about the connection to FTX knowing that FTX was an inside job and that there is lots of traffic with stolen money around Shuffle and both FTX and they know that there is this illicit flow of funds and choose specifically to do nothing about it.

This of course, would never have become on my radar. Had these individuals not acted so unprofessionally and with a total act of concern for taking something that isn’t theirs and excusing it with a list of excuses to cover up the fact that they are stealing. I don’t care who you are or what you do can see a smokescreen from a mile away. I’ve always asked for a simple question and that’s to have transparency with the money that I’ve earned the players that I’ve pulled in and the people who I’m speaking to on the other end who are making these promises on behalf of Shuffle as their agent.

It’s a shame because now I have to involve law-enforcement court systems and other people who have nothing to fucking do with them paying me what they promised. Sure, I agree that none of this is anybody’s business but shuffles, but when it affects me so badly that I have to compensate from other areas of my enterprise, this is where the issues get deeper. Rather than just admitting, there was something wrong to begin with fixing the issue and moving on we have allowed this problem to escalate to Now and everybody here who defends Shuffle totally blind and oblivious to what is even happening in front of their own eyes. I will make this connection between FTX and Shuffle and I have already made a few linkages.

Below is a transaction from a Shuffle employee to a Shuffle partner very early on the venture. This is highly inappropriate.
TX: 0xada623e256d1e1bccddc4921787046cb9a3855c358ebf2e42d5fcc1b5f5c391b   


You can see that No likes to pay his employees on the first of each month or just before and so it’s not surprising that you would discover the same thing from FTX to their employees but there’s an even more interesting fact to find here is that there are employees working for Shuffle that were receiving money from FTX and in the same frequency and nearly in the same amount so it begs the question who is working at Shuffle from FTX

Noah to employee:
0xada623e256d1e1bccddc4921787046cb9a3855c358ebf2e42d5fcc1b5f5c391b   
FTX to Employee:
0x572952570d95a549bade32adf40aa7d4a3fcc0092aaac0d6a1803c7433ce16cd

This is one of a couple examples that I know about about. Now here is another interesting fact about Shuffle’s license recently. I noticed that there was a change to listed license. xNext is it as the holder of the master license for Shuffle however this company was only created this year in 2024 and it’s nearly impossible to find anything out about them. You can’t dispute anything you can’t do shit basically Shuffle has a free pass to do whatever the hell they want, so they. Because they have their agents operating in restricted Geos, my legal rep has advised me that we will have no problem a claim in my local jurisdiction due to this fact, and they can try to remove it if they want and spend all that money, but it won’t do them any good they’re still doing this jurisdiction to begin with through their agents.

I will keep this thread updated because it’s important that everybody knows the full story without being told that I’m crazy or that I threatened somebody after they withheld millions of dollars for me.

No, the last thing I wanna talk about is partners commission rates. I have yet to find a single partner or even non-partner who is earning an accurate rate of their commissions. A perfect example of this is anytime a person asked for clarity on this topic. They are given a very vague explanation about the price of cryptocurrency affecting the reflections on their ledger.

I know from my time doing this that I will earn between four and seven dollars for 1000 a player wages with a few exceptions to this such as a single players history if it’s all on originals games. Although I know that partners with a healthy player pool generally have an average house edge of around 4 to 6% of their game history. Anybody can do the math with this information and see that rather than the $1.25 typical person has been receiving they should have received in fact quite a large amount more and an easy way to see if this is accurate or not is to check on Stable coin Earnings. Of the ten or so partners that I have seen their campaign, all of them Have been shorted by a lot. Don’t accept the answers and actually do the math yourself and you’ll see that AirDrop is being paid for by this gap in the payouts

Even if you do the math on the theoretical minimum house edge of a persons earnings, you’ll see that the numbers just do not add up.
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[...]I would recommend that no one else in this thread give any more time to this guy until he provides some form of indisputable proof (which I'm confident won't come, because our hosts take player welfare incredibly seriously).[...]

If you don't mind, I'd like to see this thread to its end and every dirty clothes aired, because it became mildly interesting how OP seemed to accidentally put the clothes into a tumble dryer instead of air drying it, and now he's tumbling all over with his previous statements... I mean the laundry.



OP, let's play surgery and dissect your statement thus far. I believe I've thoroughly disinfect my hands with the statement that I am not in any degree involved to Shuffle. I've wear the latex glove and yield a scalpel, and...

First

Let's clarify a few things here.

First, it's important to understand that the intention behind raising these concerns isn't to hurl baseless accusations or discredit anyone without cause. The aim is to ensure that we, as a community, are vigilant and proactive in assessing potential risks, especially given the history of the industry we’re dealing with. The collapse of FTX serves as a stark reminder that what appears legitimate on the surface can have deep-seated issues lurking beneath. It's not about accusing Noah of being another SBF, but rather ensuring that due diligence is performed so that we don't find ourselves blindsided again.

Noah may very well be an upstanding individual with no history of wrongdoing. The point isn’t to say he’s guilty of anything, but to emphasize the need for transparency and accountability in an industry that has seen its fair share of deceit. Even if Noah was unaware of any fraudulent activities at FTX, it’s still prudent for us to scrutinize the practices of any new venture he’s involved in—especially one in a highly unregulated and risky sector like online gambling.

Consulting back to your opening statement,

Serious Questions About Shuffle.com (Launched by Former FTX Employee)

Hello everyone,

I wanted to bring up some serious concerns regarding Shuffle.com, a new platform launched by Noah Dummett, a former employee of FTX. Here are some key points that need your attention, and I’m curious if anyone else has noticed these issues or has additional information:

Background Concerns

1. Noah Dummett's FTX Connection:
   - Noah Dummett, who previously worked at FTX, is behind the launch of Shuffle.com. Given the collapse of FTX and the legal issues surrounding its operations, does anyone else feel uneasy about the integrity and transparency of Shuffle.com?

It called "leading" in court, or in a more common terms, or "to paint someone certain color". You're saying that the point of this thread is not to say he's guilty, rather to emphasize the need of [summarized] us being vigilant, yet the wording on the opening post suggest one should weight the possible risk of integrity and transparency of shuffle for his former employment. Your post above and your opening post has a very different tone.

Second

Next, cam... Cam oh cam... I suddenly wondered what does "cam" stand for.

Cameron? Cambridge? Campbell? Camilo? Camcorder, perhaps?

Speaking about camcorder... which purpose is to record something... do you aware that the forum is being automatically crawled by two different sites made by two extremely prominent members of the forum? As in... recorded, archived, cam...corded, if you wish, so when one delete one post for whatever reason that is, it can easily be dug out.

Such as this one,

[...]
Do you want me to share here conversations of Cam? I will be gladly to do so, the entire community is beyond depressed of lovely Cam.


In fact, a sad player (and partner) spoke to him yesterday right after he deleted him Smiley He will probably be very mad at me for sharing this but hey, at crypto(casinos) you can do anything you want right?

The funny par,t my friend. Cam is never inactive - in fact Cam sees everything and is aways online only he choses of course hen to respond at his comfortable safe place. The part that worries me the most is that you are defending somebody you absolutely don't know a thing about - please don't get me wrong I'm only here to protect people against anything that triest to take advantage.

This doesn't directly confirms the addiction part (it does a bit) but I'm just curious about your opinion.

[image snip]

There is a screenshot of the conversation and here a transcript:[...]

I saved the screenshot in my gallery for future reference if needed. That screenshot though, indeed, doesn't confirm the addiction part. So perhaps you can help us with a better proof?

You alleged Cam of Shuffle handling people with gambling addiction in disrespectful manner, hinting an abuse of responsible gambling act, the proof so far is him ranting and bad mouthing about other casinos, of which... though I find it a bit mean to rant as such, barely covers the point you initially tried to raise [and later deleted] where he failed to address gambling addiction situation.

I'll really appreciate a better evidence. Thank you.

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Update: Brett, Cam’s Brother, and His Role at Shuffle

It has come to my attention that another key figure at Shuffle.com, Brett, is Cam's brother. Brett also holds a significant role within the company, and unfortunately, his behavior seems to mirror that of Cam, raising additional concerns about the company’s overall approach to customer interaction and community management.[...]

I thought,

[...]

2. Anonymous Key Personnel:
   - There are key individuals at Shuffle.com using aliases, such as "Cam" and "Brett." It’s been suggested that "Cam" knows Noah from earlier days, and both he and "Brett" are operating under false names. Has anyone else encountered these individuals or have any insight into why they might be using pseudonyms?

[...]

1. Demand Transparency:
   - Should we as a community demand full transparency about the identities of the key personnel at Shuffle.com and their roles within the company?[...]

Which one is it? They're not transparent enough that should raise a degree of suspicion or they're [apparently] way beyond transparent that you know Brett and Cam are brothers?

Still about Brett, and this is the continuation of your post I snipped above about him,

[...]

In a recent review of conversations, Brett displayed a pattern of dismissiveness and a lack of accountability when handling customer issues. For instance:

- Aggressive and Dismissive Behavior: Brett, like Cam, appears to dismiss user concerns without providing adequate reasoning. In one interaction, Brett muted a user for 30 days but refused to provide a clear explanation or retrieve chat logs to justify the action, stating, "I am the one who decides whether or not something is justified to mute a player and today I decided to mute him." When pressed for screenshots or further explanation, Brett chose to disengage, saying he had "work to get done."

- Failure to Address Community Concerns: Brett also failed to properly address community feedback, leading to confusion and dissatisfaction among users. When the chat community questioned why a user was muted, Brett did not provide clarity or engage meaningfully, which only worsened the situation.

These interactions suggest a troubling culture within Shuffle, where dismissiveness and a lack of transparency are not isolated incidents but rather part of a broader pattern among key personnel. This is particularly concerning when both Cam and Brett are in positions of influence, as it raises questions about the overall management and ethical standards of the company.

Citations:

- "I am the one who decides whether or not something is justified to mute a player and today I decided to mute him." (Message ID 569611)
- "I have players to attend to and work to get done." (Message ID 569626)

How is this concerning? If any, the impression I get is that he does his work very greatly that I think he needs a raise [ndumm, in case you read this]. I mean, you literally shows snippets where he weeded out, what I'll strongly assume as, spammers and abusers to ensure the chatbox is clean, and he attends to players.

Where is the part that he does concerning matters that's detrimental and worth questioning Shuffle's overall integrity for employing such key employee?

And oh, four,

The part that worries me the most is that you are defending somebody you absolutely don't know a thing about - please don't get me wrong I'm only here to protect people against anything that triest to take advantage.[...]

Risking to sound extremely redundant, worry not, darling, I am not "defending somebody I absolutely don't know a thing about", I am inquiring a proof of allegation towards someone [now two people]. I'll be very happy if you can revert with better proof to support your allegation.
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Alright, I know who you are after your latest message, and I no longer believe that you're acting with good intentions for the community. This thread exists to attempt to tarnish Shuffle's reputation because you are regularly muted for being incredibly toxic to our staff, our platform and our players.

Brett doesn't owe you any response after some of the things I've seen you say about and to him. Please either send some form of proof that any of our hosts have not acted in the interest of responsible gambling, or close the thread. This will be my last reply, I would recommend that no one else in this thread give any more time to this guy until he provides some form of indisputable proof (which I'm confident won't come, because our hosts take player welfare incredibly seriously).

 





Not sure how this website even works as I’ve never been on it before but hopefully this is replying directly to Noah.

No, none of this conversation prior to this message I’m writing now has been me.
I could care less about “shuffles reputation” or anytning else that’s been discussed in this thread.  All I want to know is the exact reason that I was given a month long mute for yesterday. When a friend of mine asked him on telegram, he was unable to provide a good reason aside from telling me that “he decides who gets muted” all he continually said was that I have PREVIOUSLY used bad language, or in other words I have “been toxic” in shuffles chat. And you are saying the exact same thing. Which okay, that’s valid. I can’t deny that. BUT. That was previously. I have already been muted for it and it’s over with.. Brett had 0 reason to mute me yesterday which is exactly why when he was asked to provide screenshots of what message got me muted, he refused.. again- none of the messages in the thread have been me prior to this one right here. I like you Noah I like the platform,I watch the stream every single week (even when I have 0 wager for any of the codes, ) I spent 40 hours in Ishans stream last week lol.. I get that I have been “toxic” previously, but I did nothing yesterday to deserve a month long mute. Regardless if you or Brett want to admit that, literally not one single person in chat at the time, (including myself) understood the reason as to why he muted me, and still don’t. My telegram is gucci_flops if you want to send me a message and explain, I would appreciate it. Thanks Noah.
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Alright, I know who you are after your latest message, and I no longer believe that you're acting with good intentions for the community. This thread exists to attempt to tarnish Shuffle's reputation because you are regularly muted for being incredibly toxic to our staff, our platform and our players.

Brett doesn't owe you any response after some of the things I've seen you say about and to him. Please either send some form of proof that any of our hosts have not acted in the interest of responsible gambling, or close the thread. This will be my last reply, I would recommend that no one else in this thread give any more time to this guy until he provides some form of indisputable proof (which I'm confident won't come, because our hosts take player welfare incredibly seriously).

 

If you’re truly the founder of Shuffle, then it’s on you to make sure these concerns are handled with the transparency you talk about. Instead of accusing me of having some hidden agenda, why not show that you’re serious about being open with your community?

And just so we’re clear, I’m not the person you’re accusing here. My goal is to bring up issues that many people in the community have noticed—things that, as the person leading this platform, you should be eager to address, not dismiss.

Your defnsive stance doesn’t really help ease the concerns of those of us who are genuinely worried about Shuffle’s direction. Instead of trying to shut this conversation down, why not engage and actually talk about the specific issues we’ve raised? If Shuffle is as ethical and responsible as you say, there shouldn’t be any problem addressing these concerns openly.

As the founder, you should be leading by example, not dodging accountability. Transparency is not just a word; it should be part of everything your platform does. So rather than closing off this discussion, why not show us the proof that Shuffle is living up to the standards you claim? That would do a lot to show the credibility you’re standing by.
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Alright, I know who you are after your latest message, and I no longer believe that you're acting with good intentions for the community. This thread exists to attempt to tarnish Shuffle's reputation because you are regularly muted for being incredibly toxic to our staff, our platform and our players.

Brett doesn't owe you any response after some of the things I've seen you say about and to him. Please either send some form of proof that any of our hosts have not acted in the interest of responsible gambling, or close the thread. This will be my last reply, I would recommend that no one else in this thread give any more time to this guy until he provides some form of indisputable proof (which I'm confident won't come, because our hosts take player welfare incredibly seriously).

 
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Update: Brett, Cam’s Brother, and His Role at Shuffle

It has come to my attention that another key figure at Shuffle.com, Brett, is Cam's brother. Brett also holds a significant role within the company, and unfortunately, his behavior seems to mirror that of Cam, raising additional concerns about the company’s overall approach to customer interaction and community management.

In a recent review of conversations, Brett displayed a pattern of dismissiveness and a lack of accountability when handling customer issues. For instance:

- Aggressive and Dismissive Behavior: Brett, like Cam, appears to dismiss user concerns without providing adequate reasoning. In one interaction, Brett muted a user for 30 days but refused to provide a clear explanation or retrieve chat logs to justify the action, stating, "I am the one who decides whether or not something is justified to mute a player and today I decided to mute him." When pressed for screenshots or further explanation, Brett chose to disengage, saying he had "work to get done."

- Failure to Address Community Concerns: Brett also failed to properly address community feedback, leading to confusion and dissatisfaction among users. When the chat community questioned why a user was muted, Brett did not provide clarity or engage meaningfully, which only worsened the situation.

These interactions suggest a troubling culture within Shuffle, where dismissiveness and a lack of transparency are not isolated incidents but rather part of a broader pattern among key personnel. This is particularly concerning when both Cam and Brett are in positions of influence, as it raises questions about the overall management and ethical standards of the company.

Citations:

- "I am the one who decides whether or not something is justified to mute a player and today I decided to mute him." (Message ID 569611)
- "I have players to attend to and work to get done." (Message ID 569626)
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I understand it was never a secret but it was also never a problem either for those that knew about it. It was never (to my knowledge) even discussed as a possible reason for others to avoid using Shuffle and members were never advised to take precautions before.

Yet for some unknown reason the OP decided to create this thread with an extensive amount of text and detail to advise anybody reading it about the possible dangers of using the Shuffle website.

He deliberately has not explained what drove him to create this thread yet is asking for transparency from the Shuffle team.

but before reading this thread how many people knew about the connection?
It was never a secret. Noah himself has talked about this in a video. He left FTX in 2021 while FTX issue happened on 2022.

The reason this thread exists is simple: due diligence. Just because something wasn’t a problem before doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be scrutinized now, especially in an industry as volatile as crypto. My goal is to ensure transparency and protect the community. If raising concerns about potential risks and demanding accountability makes you uncomfortable, then perhaps that says more about the situation than the thread itself. Transparency goes both ways.
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In summary,


OP made a accusation against the founder of Shuffle.com namely Noah in the regard of "potential risks". These claims are obviously silly to any user that has read the replies because every single person has come to the same logistical conclusion of "it was a legitimate company when he was working there." I mean, it at least APPEARED to be. That's how a multi billion dollar scam works. It appears to be legit to even most core employees, not just the hundreds of thousands of users that are actually pretty damn smart, unless they were in on it. The scam was really fucking good, it tricked plenty of people with IQs triple of mine. That's why it stole billions!!!


Noah has no history of doing anything SBF did or anything of the sense so Noahs accusation holds 0 weight.



Secondly,



OP made a accusation against "Cam" at Shuffle.com regarding unethical business practices that he has failed to provide any evidence for.



So,



Unless OP gives concrete proof of his accusations against Cam @ Shuffle.com, this thread should stop being replied to and bumped because there are more important things that require attentions in the Scam Accusations section. There's nothing to debate.

Let's clarify a few things here.

First, it's important to understand that the intention behind raising these concerns isn't to hurl baseless accusations or discredit anyone without cause. The aim is to ensure that we, as a community, are vigilant and proactive in assessing potential risks, especially given the history of the industry we’re dealing with. The collapse of FTX serves as a stark reminder that what appears legitimate on the surface can have deep-seated issues lurking beneath. It's not about accusing Noah of being another SBF, but rather ensuring that due diligence is performed so that we don't find ourselves blindsided again.

Noah may very well be an upstanding individual with no history of wrongdoing. The point isn’t to say he’s guilty of anything, but to emphasize the need for transparency and accountability in an industry that has seen its fair share of deceit. Even if Noah was unaware of any fraudulent activities at FTX, it’s still prudent for us to scrutinize the practices of any new venture he’s involved in—especially one in a highly unregulated and risky sector like online gambling.

Now, regarding Cam at Shuffle.com, my concerns aren't accusations in the traditional sense but rather red flags that need further examination. The lack of transparency and the behavior reported by some users suggest that there could be deeper issues that merit attention. This isn’t about proving guilt right here, right now—it's about raising awareness so that we all take a closer look. If there’s nothing to hide, then these concerns should be easy to address and dispel.

And let’s be very clear about one thing: in an industry like crypto where regulations are minimal at best and often non-existent, asking tough questions isn’t just a precaution—it’s a necessity. We’re dealing with a space where companies can operate with near-total impunity, and where the balance of power is heavily tilted in favor of the casino operators. They hold all the cards, and if they choose to act unethically, there’s little to nothing stopping them.

So, I ask you—what harm is there in demanding transparency? What’s wrong with wanting to ensure that those who hold such immense power in this industry are acting in good faith? This isn’t about trying to bring someone down; it’s about protecting ourselves and our community from the very real risks that come with unchecked power. If Shuffle.com is as above-board as some claim, then these questions should be welcomed, not dismissed.

This thread isn’t just about debating who’s right or wrong; it’s about ensuring we all have the full picture before dismissing potential issues. The crypto space has seen too many instances where lack of oversight led to catastrophic outcomes. Let's not fall into the trap of complacency.

If this discussion helps even one person avoid a bad situation, then it's worth continuing. I urge everyone to remain open-minded and to keep this conversation going until all concerns are fully addressed and resolved. Transparency and accountability should never be viewed as unnecessary, especially in this space.
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If Shuffle.com is confident in its operations and the behavior of its staff, then there should be no hesitation in continuing this discussion until all concerns are satisfactorily addressed.

And where did you get the impression this is a productive place for such a discussion? This is the "Scam Accusations" section, not a freaking tea party.  Is there an evidence of actual scam?

Do you want me to share here conversations of Cam? I will be gladly to do so, the entire community is beyond depressed of lovely Cam.

You are not entitled to speak on behalf of the "entire" community.


Indeed, Stalker, this isn't a damn tea party—these are people's lives being ruined. Gambling (addiction) destroys families, livelihoods, and futures. When individuals like Cam, who represent Shuffle.com, show a blatant disregard for the well-being of players, it goes beyond a simple business transaction. It becomes a moral issue that affects real people in devastating ways.

While you may dismiss this as a discussion unfit for the "Scam Accusations" section, the reality is that unethical practices can be just as harmful as outright scams. When staff members treat people with disrespect, mock their struggles, and ignore the consequences of their actions, it’s not just bad customer service—it’s a serious breach of trust and responsibility.

If you think this doesn’t belong here, perhaps you need to reassess what qualifies as a legitimate concern. The community deserves better, and we won’t be silenced just because some find it uncomfortable to confront these issues head-on.

Don't you agree?
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Let's be clear: the purpose of this thread is not to be dismissed or locked just because uncomfortable truths are being discussed. The questions raised here are far from resolved, and it’s important to address them rather than sweep them under the rug.

Regarding Cam, the concern is not baseless speculation but a reflection of how his actions have been perceived by those who have interacted with him. His apparent disregard for the well-being of players, particularly those struggling with addiction, is more than just a minor issue—it’s a significant ethical concern. The fact that these behaviors are being brought to light suggests that there is a real issue here, not something to be casually dismissed.

Rather than attempting to shut down the discussion, I would expect Shuffle.com, and those defending it, to welcome a thorough investigation and a transparent resolution. If Cam’s actions are beyond reproach, then there should be no fear in addressing these concerns head-on and providing the necessary evidence to clear his name. However, if these allegations have merit, it is imperative that they are addressed, and appropriate actions are taken to prevent any further harm.

Locking this thread without resolving these issues would be a disservice to the community and would only raise more questions about what’s being hidden. Let’s focus on transparency, accountability, and ensuring that those in positions of power within the crypto gambling space are held to the highest ethical standards.

If Shuffle.com is confident in its operations and the behavior of its staff, then there should be no hesitation in continuing this discussion until all concerns are satisfactorily addressed.

Do you want me to share here conversations of Cam? I will be gladly to do so, the entire community is beyond depressed of lovely Cam.

If you can provide the conversation, it'll be very much appreciated, so ndumm [or perhaps cam himself, though he's been inactive for a while now] can give their insight about this

In fact, a sad player (and partner) spoke to him yesterday right after he deleted him Smiley He will probably be very mad at me for sharing this but hey, at crypto(casinos) you can do anything you want right?

The funny par,t my friend. Cam is never inactive - in fact Cam sees everything and is aways online only he choses of course hen to respond at his comfortable safe place. The part that worries me the most is that you are defending somebody you absolutely don't know a thing about - please don't get me wrong I'm only here to protect people against anything that triest to take advantage.

This doesn't directly confirms the addiction part (it does a bit) but I'm just curious about your opinion.

https://i.ibb.co/gP4Zdrq/photo-2024-08-13-23-07-20.jpg

There is a screenshot of the conversation and here a transcript:

Cam Shuffle:

Not trying to dismiss your feelings but I have so many players pissed off at their current casino asking to transfer to Shuffle I can’t keep up.
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If you want to be denied lossback when you’re down and talk to a robot you could try Stake.
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Or if you want to be blatantly scammed, have your withdrawals locked, and talk to a host who barely speaks English you could try bcgame.
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are these dissatisfied players in the room with us?

You:
No it are actually all the people who give you the feeling Shuffle is the best and you are the best host ever because they will do anything to get anything because their dried out wallet isn’t giving even a blink of hope anymore.
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Most of those you speak daily, only of course you have no clue how it goes within the community because you only chose to feed your ego.
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That’s what we call a poker-face and I’m absolutely not talking about myself.

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I understand it was never a secret but it was also never a problem either for those that knew about it. It was never (to my knowledge) even discussed as a possible reason for others to avoid using Shuffle and members were never advised to take precautions before.

Yet for some unknown reason the OP decided to create this thread with an extensive amount of text and detail to advise anybody reading it about the possible dangers of using the Shuffle website.

He deliberately has not explained what drove him to create this thread yet is asking for transparency from the Shuffle team.

but before reading this thread how many people knew about the connection?
It was never a secret. Noah himself has talked about this in a video. He left FTX in 2021 while FTX issue happened on 2022.
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If Shuffle.com is confident in its operations and the behavior of its staff, then there should be no hesitation in continuing this discussion until all concerns are satisfactorily addressed.

And where did you get the impression this is a productive place for such a discussion? This is the "Scam Accusations" section, not a freaking tea party.  Is there an evidence of actual scam?

Do you want me to share here conversations of Cam? I will be gladly to do so, the entire community is beyond depressed of lovely Cam.

You are not entitled to speak on behalf of the "entire" community.
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In summary,


OP made a accusation against the founder of Shuffle.com namely Noah in the regard of "potential risks". These claims are obviously silly to any user that has read the replies because every single person has come to the same logistical conclusion of "it was a legitimate company when he was working there." I mean, it at least APPEARED to be. That's how a multi billion dollar scam works. It appears to be legit to even most core employees, not just the hundreds of thousands of users that are actually pretty damn smart, unless they were in on it. The scam was really fucking good, it tricked plenty of people with IQs triple of mine. That's why it stole billions!!!


Noah has no history of doing anything SBF did or anything of the sense so Noahs accusation holds 0 weight.



Secondly,



OP made a accusation against "Cam" at Shuffle.com regarding unethical business practices that he has failed to provide any evidence for.



So,



Unless OP gives concrete proof of his accusations against Cam @ Shuffle.com, this thread should stop being replied to and bumped because there are more important things that require attentions in the Scam Accusations section. There's nothing to debate.
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but before reading this thread how many people knew about the connection?
It was never a secret. Noah himself has talked about this in a video. He left FTX in 2021 while FTX issue happened on 2022.
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I think most people would probably agree with you. What compounds the perspective even further is that there were zero allegations made in the OP about even the slightest direct impropriety conducted by the ex-employee while working at FTX.

It seems the OP cited the fact that some employees of the casino are giving their full names and instead use alias (as well as the ex-employee of FTX connection) as a major concern. That might have been prominent when the Shuffle casino started but before reading this thread how many people knew about the connection?

In my opinion, until or unless there are serious scam allegations made against them I would not look too much in to what the OP has stated.

This concern is only valid if Noah himself is the one who committed fraud but for a normal employee of a business that once provide a legit service this accusation is totally unfair just because he work on FTX.

So far Shuffle doesn’t have any existing scam accusation and provides solid service to all its customers. I think it’s not a big deal his background if his current company is operating well. If Shuffle was owned by SBF then I will agree that this company needs a thorough investigation.
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This concern is only valid if Noah himself is the one who committed fraud but for a normal employee of a business that once provide a legit service this accusation is totally unfair just because he work on FTX.

So far Shuffle doesn’t have any existing scam accusation and provides solid service to all its customers. I think it’s not a big deal his background if his current company is operating well. If Shuffle was owned by SBF then I will agree that this company needs a thorough investigation.
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Let's be clear: the purpose of this thread is not to be dismissed or locked just because uncomfortable truths are being discussed. The questions raised here are far from resolved, and it’s important to address them rather than sweep them under the rug.

Regarding Cam, the concern is not baseless speculation but a reflection of how his actions have been perceived by those who have interacted with him. His apparent disregard for the well-being of players, particularly those struggling with addiction, is more than just a minor issue—it’s a significant ethical concern. The fact that these behaviors are being brought to light suggests that there is a real issue here, not something to be casually dismissed.

Rather than attempting to shut down the discussion, I would expect Shuffle.com, and those defending it, to welcome a thorough investigation and a transparent resolution. If Cam’s actions are beyond reproach, then there should be no fear in addressing these concerns head-on and providing the necessary evidence to clear his name. However, if these allegations have merit, it is imperative that they are addressed, and appropriate actions are taken to prevent any further harm.

Locking this thread without resolving these issues would be a disservice to the community and would only raise more questions about what’s being hidden. Let’s focus on transparency, accountability, and ensuring that those in positions of power within the crypto gambling space are held to the highest ethical standards.

If Shuffle.com is confident in its operations and the behavior of its staff, then there should be no hesitation in continuing this discussion until all concerns are satisfactorily addressed.

Do you want me to share here conversations of Cam? I will be gladly to do so, the entire community is beyond depressed of lovely Cam.

If you can provide the conversation, it'll be very much appreciated, so ndumm [or perhaps cam himself, though he's been inactive for a while now] can give their insight about this
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The first thing I would state is that by default there is automatically nothing wrong of being an employee of an organisation that went bankrupt due to mass fraud. I think it depends on what level the employee was involved in the bankrupt-via-fraud organisation. After that, I would look at the reputation Shuffle.com has in the forum and by that I specifically mean the Scam Accusation board.

I think there are several threads about them but nothing to my knowledge was attributed to the website conducting in scam behaviour. Though you might have motives to post here we should not be trying guess what they are, you should have elaborated on your association to this matter in the OP.

If their owner/operator worked at FTX and Bitmex, why is that a big concern for you? And using aliases in not a big issue to be worried about. Employees in many companies do the same because they do not want to give their real names. If the owner/operator has given his name and previous connection to tech companies, why is it a problem for you if employees use aliases?

Serious Questions About Shuffle.com (Launched by Former FTX Employee)

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Given the questionable background of its founder, Noah Dummett, and the use of aliases by key personnel, there are serious concerns about the legitimacy of Shuffle.com. It is crucial for the community and stakeholders to demand transparency, thoroughly investigate transaction patterns, and report any suspicious activities to regulatory bodies.
If I am not wrong then Shuffle.com is not here for short term. They have been paying out their players regularly, keeping a good reputation on the community from long time. An ex FTX employee [if it is true] does not mean that he or she can have their own business. Their life does not stop just because FTX stopped. There were many talented people on FTX and all of them have the ability to create something good which will bring good to the cryptocurrency industry.

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Your motivation is questionable. I think first you need to establish a level of trust to hear you before anything else. What brought you to create this topic?
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Thank you for your response. I appreciate your willingness to engage in this discussion and your dedication to transparency. However, I have a few points and concerns that I feel need to be addressed:
I think you already got your answers and you also admitted the transparency of Noah and now it's useless to ask those questions. I suggest you to close the thread and be a gentle person and when you have any kind of solid proof against Shuffle only then create scam accusation against them.

Actually... I don't think this thread has meet its conclusion and should be locked. Other than the point clarified above, OP also proposes an accusation that one of Shuffle's staff and a representative on this forum, Cam, to be somewhat --what I can only summarize as-- unethical. I think we'll still need OP to clarify whether he'll drop this one by saying that his accusation is baseless or to provide evidence to support the statement.

Let's be clear: the purpose of this thread is not to be dismissed or locked just because uncomfortable truths are being discussed. The questions raised here are far from resolved, and it’s important to address them rather than sweep them under the rug.

Regarding Cam, the concern is not baseless speculation but a reflection of how his actions have been perceived by those who have interacted with him. His apparent disregard for the well-being of players, particularly those struggling with addiction, is more than just a minor issue—it’s a significant ethical concern. The fact that these behaviors are being brought to light suggests that there is a real issue here, not something to be casually dismissed.

Rather than attempting to shut down the discussion, I would expect Shuffle.com, and those defending it, to welcome a thorough investigation and a transparent resolution. If Cam’s actions are beyond reproach, then there should be no fear in addressing these concerns head-on and providing the necessary evidence to clear his name. However, if these allegations have merit, it is imperative that they are addressed, and appropriate actions are taken to prevent any further harm.

Locking this thread without resolving these issues would be a disservice to the community and would only raise more questions about what’s being hidden. Let’s focus on transparency, accountability, and ensuring that those in positions of power within the crypto gambling space are held to the highest ethical standards.

If Shuffle.com is confident in its operations and the behavior of its staff, then there should be no hesitation in continuing this discussion until all concerns are satisfactorily addressed.

Do you want me to share here conversations of Cam? I will be gladly to do so, the entire community is beyond depressed of lovely Cam.
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Thank you for your response. I appreciate your willingness to engage in this discussion and your dedication to transparency. However, I have a few points and concerns that I feel need to be addressed:
I think you already got your answers and you also admitted the transparency of Noah and now it's useless to ask those questions. I suggest you to close the thread and be a gentle person and when you have any kind of solid proof against Shuffle only then create scam accusation against them.

Actually... I don't think this thread has meet its conclusion and should be locked. Other than the point clarified above, OP also proposes an accusation that one of Shuffle's staff and a representative on this forum, Cam, to be somewhat --what I can only summarize as-- unethical. I think we'll still need OP to clarify whether he'll drop this one by saying that his accusation is baseless or to provide evidence to support the statement.
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Thank you for your response. I appreciate your willingness to engage in this discussion and your dedication to transparency. However, I have a few points and concerns that I feel need to be addressed:
I think you already got your answers and you also admitted the transparency of Noah and now it's useless to ask those questions. I suggest you to close the thread and be a gentle person and when you have any kind of solid proof against Shuffle only then create scam accusation against them.
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Oh, still waiting for that accusation for Cam? I believe it's a serious allegation and would like to pursue and/or get it cleared.

Given the nature of your responses, it strongly feels like you might have a personal interest in defending Shuffle. While I understand the importance of a thorough investigation and fair treatment, the lack of existing complaints about Shuffle could simply be due to the platform's low user base. This isn't necessarily indicative of a clean record but rather a reflection of limited exposure and engagement.

As for Cam, the serious allegation regarding his enjoyment of others' suffering and his handling of addiction issues still stands. It's critical to address these concerns transparently. Whether or not he has been formally accused or investigated, the patterns of behavior reported by users suggest a profound lack of empathy and respect for player well-being.

If you are confident in the integrity of Shuffle and Cam, I invite you to provide evidence to clear these serious allegations. The community deserves transparency and accountability, especially when it comes to potential exploitation and unethical behavior.

Additionally, considering the myriad of opportunities within the crypto space, it's perplexing and concerning that Noah would choose to be involved in one of the darkest and least legal aspects of the industry. Why take this path when there are so many legitimate and positive ventures available?

The community's vigilance and proactive inquiry into these practices are crucial, especially as Shuffle.com continues to grow. Ensuring that such behavior is called out and addressed early can prevent further harm and foster a more ethical and transparent environment.

Last I check, I shouldn't have any personal interest in defending Shuffle, since I am not involved with them in any degree imaginable. If you have that strong feeling, it's in your head. But let's address that instead of sweeping them under the rug, which part of my post makes you feel such strong feeling?

Moving to cam, this serves as a comment to your last post above about Cam too, I believe you're the one who initially alleges that their staff, pseudonamed Cam, has a serious issue in addressing gambling addiction, perhaps amongst other trait. So, I believe it should be you that proves the accusation is not baseless and completely founded instead of asking me [or anyone else] to prove that your statement is invalid? Do I understand things backwardly?
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I once offered tips to people for posting reviews on TrustPilot, and Noah messaged me, warning that I would be banned if I continued.

Noah is an honest person.

Regarding FTX, remember that it had hundreds of employees. Please consider the complexity before making broad statements.

It's good to hear that Noah took steps to maintain integrity on review platforms. However, it's essential to look at the broader context of his previous high-ranking position and the potential influence of his decisions at FTX. While he may have had positive interactions, it doesn't entirely mitigate the need for transparency and accountability, especially given the significant impact of FTX's collapse.

Regarding the complexity of FTX's operations and the many employees involved, I fully acknowledge that not everyone was part of the fraudulent activities. My concern is focused on ensuring that lessons have been learned and that such practices are not carried over to Shuffle.com. Noah's high position at FTX puts him in a place where his actions and decisions carry significant weight, and it is reasonable to seek assurance that Shuffle.com operates with the highest ethical standards.

It's not about making broad statements but rather about safeguarding the community and ensuring that Shuffle.com is transparent and accountable in its operations. Trust is built through continuous vigilance and a commitment to ethical practices, which should be evident in every aspect of the platform.

Moreover, even if Noah is innocent, he can thank Cam for these allegations. Cam's behavior and apparent disregard for people, particularly those struggling with gambling addiction, have brought these serious concerns to light. His actions and attitude reflect poorly on the entire organization and highlight the need for stringent ethical standards and accountability.

If Noah and the Shuffle team are genuinely committed to this, further transparency and clear communication about their practices and the measures they take to prevent any unethical behavior would be greatly appreciated by the community.
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Hey, I can tell you put some time into writing this so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're doing this out of concern for the community and not because you're trying to throw mud on Shuffle's name.

1. As a few people have already mentioned, I am very public about working at both BitMEX and FTX. I'm proud of what I accomplished there, and anyone who interacted with me while I was there should be able to give you a good character reference if you're interested in it. I left in mid-2021, FTX went down in November of 2022; if you're discounting everyone who worked there at any point of FTX's history, you're discounting hundreds of great people who had nothing to do with the fraudulent actions which led to the collapse. To suggest that I'm running Shuffle in the same way that FTX was run is quite disrespectful; at FTX I learnt a lot about how to build a product, and a lot about how not to run a company.

2. Shuffle is one of the most transparent teams in the crypto casino space. You can do a quick search and find a lot of background on me, and a very large portion of our management team. We do livestreams every week with different members of our team, and most team members have their full name as their usernames on various social media platforms - we make no effort to hide ourselves because we have nothing to hide. Of course, there are risks and safety concerns to doing this, and I respect that not all members of the team are as keen as I to be public-facing. This is the case with plenty of companies in finance, crypto, and wagering. A question to you; can you name 3 crypto casinos that have a more public team than ours?

3. If you have any instances of this please let me know, but it's in quite bad faith to make a suggestion that we're operating fraudulently with nothing to point to that would suggest that.

All of your suggestions are good suggestions, and you should be doing this to anyone you trust your money with, including all other crypto casinos. If you have concerns about anyone's responsible gambling commitments, I would encourage you to follow that up, because it's a serious matter. Again, I'm hopeful that you are a genuinely concerned observer and not someone who may be trying to smear the Shuffle brand - hopefully this helps clarify for you.

Thank you for your response. I appreciate your willingness to engage in this discussion and your dedication to transparency. However, I have a few points and concerns that I feel need to be addressed:

Past Employment and Current Practices:

While I acknowledge the openness about your work history at BitMEX and FTX, the concern isn't just about past affiliations. It's about ensuring that past mistakes, particularly those that led to significant collapses like FTX, are not repeated. It's encouraging that you’ve learned valuable lessons, but the community needs concrete assurances that Shuffle.com operates differently. His history can either be a testament to your growth or a shadow if not addressed transparently and proactively.

Transparency of the Team:

It’s commendable that Shuffle aims to be one of the most transparent teams in the crypto casino space. However, the issue isn't just about visibility but about accountability and ethical practices. While some team members might prefer privacy, the use of aliases, particularly by key personnel like Cam, raises concerns. Transparency isn’t just about being seen; it’s about being accountable. There are indeed other crypto casinos with public-facing teams, and it’s vital for Shuffle to meet and exceed these standards to build trust.

Operational Integrity:

The suggestion of fraudulent operations is serious, and I understand the need for substantial evidence before making such claims. However, community concerns about ethical practices, particularly regarding how Cam handles issues related to addiction, are significant. The perception that Cam appears to enjoy others' suffering is alarming and warrants a thorough investigation and response from the team.

Community and Ethical Concerns:

I am indeed concerned about the well-being of the community and the ethical operation of platforms within the crypto space. My goal isn't to smear Shuffle's name but to ensure that platforms like Shuffle are held to the highest standards. Addressing these concerns head-on, with transparency and accountability, is crucial for building trust and ensuring that Shuffle.com remains a reputable and ethical player in the industry.

Additionally, considering the many opportunities within the crypto space, it's concerning why Shuffle would choose to operate in one of the most contentious and least regulated areas. This choice inherently brings additional scrutiny and requires an even greater commitment to transparency and ethical practices.

I hope these points clarify my position and the concerns raised. Ensuring the integrity and ethical operation of Shuffle.com is in everyone's best interest, and I appreciate your efforts towards this goal.
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I once offered tips to people for posting reviews on TrustPilot, and Noah messaged me, warning that I would be banned if I continued.

Noah is an honest person.

Regarding FTX, remember that it had hundreds of employees. Please consider the complexity before making broad statements.
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Hey, I can tell you put some time into writing this so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're doing this out of concern for the community and not because you're trying to throw mud on Shuffle's name.

1. As a few people have already mentioned, I am very public about working at both BitMEX and FTX. I'm proud of what I accomplished there, and anyone who interacted with me while I was there should be able to give you a good character reference if you're interested in it. I left in mid-2021, FTX went down in November of 2022; if you're discounting everyone who worked there at any point of FTX's history, you're discounting hundreds of great people who had nothing to do with the fraudulent actions which led to the collapse. To suggest that I'm running Shuffle in the same way that FTX was run is quite disrespectful; at FTX I learnt a lot about how to build a product, and a lot about how not to run a company.

2. Shuffle is one of the most transparent teams in the crypto casino space. You can do a quick search and find a lot of background on me, and a very large portion of our management team. We do livestreams every week with different members of our team, and most team members have their full name as their usernames on various social media platforms - we make no effort to hide ourselves because we have nothing to hide. Of course, there are risks and safety concerns to doing this, and I respect that not all members of the team are as keen as I to be public-facing. This is the case with plenty of companies in finance, crypto, and wagering. A question to you; can you name 3 crypto casinos that have a more public team than ours?

3. If you have any instances of this please let me know, but it's in quite bad faith to make a suggestion that we're operating fraudulently with nothing to point to that would suggest that.

All of your suggestions are good suggestions, and you should be doing this to anyone you trust your money with, including all other crypto casinos. If you have concerns about anyone's responsible gambling commitments, I would encourage you to follow that up, because it's a serious matter. Again, I'm hopeful that you are a genuinely concerned observer and not someone who may be trying to smear the Shuffle brand - hopefully this helps clarify for you.
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So you think that Suffle.com isn't genuine because it was found by someone who worked at FTX? Is that even a valid reason to create scam accusation against a casino? If you have any proof about their scam then show that otherwise creating such topics is only a sign of envy against a platform or against its owner.
I wonder what the OP is accusing Shuffle of there is evidence or some kind of article linking Noah Dummet to FTX?

I think this is just a theory that the OP is doing without any evidence we don't see this as an accusation or any other unrest, so prove it for everyone to know what the OP is talking about.
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So you think that Suffle.com isn't genuine because it was found by someone who worked at FTX? Is that even a valid reason to create scam accusation against a casino? If you have any proof about their scam then show that otherwise creating such topics is only a sign of envy against a platform or against its owner.
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First, let me clarify that my intention is not to confuse or misuse the quoting function.

Regarding the broader issue of whether any company founded or employing someone with a background in a troublesome company should be questioned, it's important to recognize that due diligence is a crucial part of assessing the trustworthiness and integrity of any new venture. While it's true that "shit happens" and not every individual should be held accountable for the actions of their previous employers, in the case of Noah Dummett and Shuffle.com, there are specific reasons for concern.

Noah Dummett was not a mere employee at FTX; he held a significant position that potentially exposed him to the inner workings and strategic decisions of the company. The collapse of FTX was not a simple case of misfortune; it involved complex financial mismanagement and questionable practices that had far-reaching consequences. Understanding Noah's role and influence within FTX is crucial to assessing whether similar practices could be carried over to Shuffle.com.

It's important to note that during the FTX collapse, multiple employees were involved in the company's operations and strategic decisions. While Noah might not have been directly responsible for the downfall, his involvement in a company with such severe financial mismanagement raises valid concerns about his approach to running Shuffle.com. Transparency about his role and actions during his time at FTX can help alleviate some of these concerns and build trust in his new venture.

Furthermore, Noah's involvement with BitMEX, another controversial company in the crypto space, adds another layer of concern. BitMEX faced significant legal challenges, including charges against its founders for violating anti-money laundering laws. While Noah may not have been directly implicated in these issues, his association with multiple companies that have faced serious legal and ethical challenges cannot be overlooked. It raises questions about the practices he may bring to Shuffle.com and whether there is a pattern of involvement in high-risk ventures without adequate oversight and compliance.

Has he been investigated-and-cleared or proven-guilty by any of the investigating bodies who investigate both companies?

Regarding the use of aliases, while it is common in customer service and other industries to use pseudonyms for various reasons, the context here is different. When key personnel involved in financial operations choose to remain anonymous, it raises questions about accountability and trust. Knowing the real identities of those making critical financial decisions is essential to ensure transparency and prevent potential misuse of power.

I understand the suggestion to contact Noah directly or investigate company registrations for real names. However, gaining proper authority to inquire about such details is not always feasible for individual users. The expectation is not for Noah to doxx his staff but to provide a level of transparency that builds trust and confidence in the operations of Shuffle.com.

In conclusion, the scrutiny is not about holding Noah accountable for his past employment at FTX and BitMEX, but about ensuring that the same problematic practices do not carry over to Shuffle.com. Transparency, accountability, and ethical practices are vital for any financial platform, especially in the volatile world of cryptocurrencies. Continuous vigilance and proactive inquiry are necessary to protect users and ensure the integrity of the platform.

May I perhaps propose another way to prove the reputation of Shuffle? By tracking complaints the players of his platform have on this forum and take a good guesstimate from them? I believe, given your extensive research into him and the very thorough and well written posts, you'll find and notice there is an easy way to accomplish this DD of scam accusations against Shuffle.

Oh, still waiting for that accusation for Cam? I believe it's a serious allegation and would like to pursue and/or get it cleared.
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1. Noah Dummett's FTX Connection:
While it's true that Noah has been open about his past employment, the concern is not just about his previous jobs but the potential replication of problematic operational practices. Transparency and accountability are crucial, especially given the legal issues surrounding FTX. Comparing this situation to BitMEX doesn't negate the need for scrutiny. It's not about doing a better job than the FBI, but about continuous vigilance and ensuring ongoing transparency in Shuffle.com's operations to prevent similar issues.

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2. Anonymous Key Personnel:
While privacy is important, the use of aliases by key personnel in a financial service raises red flags. Transparency about the identities of key decision-makers is critical to building trust, especially in the wake of major financial collapses like FTX. Anonymity can be exploited for malicious purposes, and it's in the community's interest to know who is handling their funds.

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3. Potential Operational Similarities to FTX:
Operational practices are fundamental to the integrity of any financial platform. If Shuffle.com is using similar systems to those that failed at FTX, it poses a significant risk. Accessing this data might be challenging, but it's essential for stakeholders to push for audits and transparency to ensure that the same mistakes are not repeated. Bonus systems and user fund management are critical components that can impact the overall stability and fairness of the platform.

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Immediate Actions for Community and Stakeholders
Stakeholders include anyone who has a vested interest in the platform, including users and token holders. Demanding transparency is not only reasonable but necessary to ensure the integrity of the platform. While privacy is important, it should not come at the expense of accountability. Balancing privacy with transparency is key, and there are ways to protect sensitive information while still providing the community with the assurances they need about the platform's operations and the people running it.


OP, please learn to quote properly, or drop the act of not knowing how to quote, it's confusing. I somehow have a feeling that this is a disposable account and you have an existing account here.

Addressing your post as a whole, by the same logic, any company which founded by and/or employ someone who has previously worked in a troublesome company, are worth questioning. Here's a fun fact of life, in case you're lucky and privileged enough to never experienced it first hand: shit happens and mother nature is a bitch.

I don't think it's fair to hold Noah for something that happened on his past employment, is it? Especially as he contributes nothing to the downfall of it?

And anonymous staff, I'll repeat what I said on previous post, I suggest you to PM Noah and see if he'll be kind enough to tell you who work on what and all their background [this is a sarcasm]. Otherwise, gain proper authority and inquire an investigation to their company registration, I believe some name are listed there, real name.

Oh, further, about key personnel in financial services using alias... how sure are you when you call your bank and a customer service answered your call and introduce herself as "Samantha", that's her real name? Or when their financial or loan staff do a telemarketing and offers a loan, the "hi, this is Robert from Barclays" is a real Robert instead of a Nathan Edwardson by birth?

I want to add another issue regarding Shuffle.com, specifically related to Cam, one of the key figures operating under an alias. It's come to light that Cam's handling of people, particularly those struggling with gambling addiction, is not only disrespectful but downright harmful.

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Previously, all of your post is about a discussion and speculation, of which I address with similar manner, but with this above... I'll appreciate a concrete evidence to back up this claim, if you have any. This is a serious allegation, and last I check, this thread is on scam accusations board. We run on evidence here.


First, let me clarify that my intention is not to confuse or misuse the quoting function.

Regarding the broader issue of whether any company founded or employing someone with a background in a troublesome company should be questioned, it's important to recognize that due diligence is a crucial part of assessing the trustworthiness and integrity of any new venture. While it's true that "shit happens" and not every individual should be held accountable for the actions of their previous employers, in the case of Noah Dummett and Shuffle.com, there are specific reasons for concern.

Noah Dummett was not a mere employee at FTX; he held a significant position that potentially exposed him to the inner workings and strategic decisions of the company. The collapse of FTX was not a simple case of misfortune; it involved complex financial mismanagement and questionable practices that had far-reaching consequences. Understanding Noah's role and influence within FTX is crucial to assessing whether similar practices could be carried over to Shuffle.com.

It's important to note that during the FTX collapse, multiple employees were involved in the company's operations and strategic decisions. While Noah might not have been directly responsible for the downfall, his involvement in a company with such severe financial mismanagement raises valid concerns about his approach to running Shuffle.com. Transparency about his role and actions during his time at FTX can help alleviate some of these concerns and build trust in his new venture.

Furthermore, Noah's involvement with BitMEX, another controversial company in the crypto space, adds another layer of concern. BitMEX faced significant legal challenges, including charges against its founders for violating anti-money laundering laws. While Noah may not have been directly implicated in these issues, his association with multiple companies that have faced serious legal and ethical challenges cannot be overlooked. It raises questions about the practices he may bring to Shuffle.com and whether there is a pattern of involvement in high-risk ventures without adequate oversight and compliance.

Regarding the use of aliases, while it is common in customer service and other industries to use pseudonyms for various reasons, the context here is different. When key personnel involved in financial operations choose to remain anonymous, it raises questions about accountability and trust. Knowing the real identities of those making critical financial decisions is essential to ensure transparency and prevent potential misuse of power.

I understand the suggestion to contact Noah directly or investigate company registrations for real names. However, gaining proper authority to inquire about such details is not always feasible for individual users. The expectation is not for Noah to doxx his staff but to provide a level of transparency that builds trust and confidence in the operations of Shuffle.com.

In conclusion, the scrutiny is not about holding Noah accountable for his past employment at FTX and BitMEX, but about ensuring that the same problematic practices do not carry over to Shuffle.com. Transparency, accountability, and ethical practices are vital for any financial platform, especially in the volatile world of cryptocurrencies. Continuous vigilance and proactive inquiry are necessary to protect users and ensure the integrity of the platform.
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1. Noah Dummett's FTX Connection:
While it's true that Noah has been open about his past employment, the concern is not just about his previous jobs but the potential replication of problematic operational practices. Transparency and accountability are crucial, especially given the legal issues surrounding FTX. Comparing this situation to BitMEX doesn't negate the need for scrutiny. It's not about doing a better job than the FBI, but about continuous vigilance and ensuring ongoing transparency in Shuffle.com's operations to prevent similar issues.

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2. Anonymous Key Personnel:
While privacy is important, the use of aliases by key personnel in a financial service raises red flags. Transparency about the identities of key decision-makers is critical to building trust, especially in the wake of major financial collapses like FTX. Anonymity can be exploited for malicious purposes, and it's in the community's interest to know who is handling their funds.

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3. Potential Operational Similarities to FTX:
Operational practices are fundamental to the integrity of any financial platform. If Shuffle.com is using similar systems to those that failed at FTX, it poses a significant risk. Accessing this data might be challenging, but it's essential for stakeholders to push for audits and transparency to ensure that the same mistakes are not repeated. Bonus systems and user fund management are critical components that can impact the overall stability and fairness of the platform.

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Immediate Actions for Community and Stakeholders
Stakeholders include anyone who has a vested interest in the platform, including users and token holders. Demanding transparency is not only reasonable but necessary to ensure the integrity of the platform. While privacy is important, it should not come at the expense of accountability. Balancing privacy with transparency is key, and there are ways to protect sensitive information while still providing the community with the assurances they need about the platform's operations and the people running it.


OP, please learn to quote properly, or drop the act of not knowing how to quote, it's confusing. I somehow have a feeling that this is a disposable account and you have an existing account here.

Addressing your post as a whole, by the same logic, any company which founded by and/or employ someone who has previously worked in a troublesome company, are worth questioning. Here's a fun fact of life, in case you're lucky and privileged enough to never experienced it first hand: shit happens and mother nature is a bitch.

I don't think it's fair to hold Noah for something that happened on his past employment, is it? Especially as he contributes nothing to the downfall of it?

And anonymous staff, I'll repeat what I said on previous post, I suggest you to PM Noah and see if he'll be kind enough to tell you who work on what and all their background [this is a sarcasm]. Otherwise, gain proper authority and inquire an investigation to their company registration, I believe some name are listed there, real name.

Oh, further, about key personnel in financial services using alias... how sure are you when you call your bank and a customer service answered your call and introduce herself as "Samantha", that's her real name? Or when their financial or loan staff do a telemarketing and offers a loan, the "hi, this is Robert from Barclays" is a real Robert instead of a Nathan Edwardson by birth?

I want to add another issue regarding Shuffle.com, specifically related to Cam, one of the key figures operating under an alias. It's come to light that Cam's handling of people, particularly those struggling with gambling addiction, is not only disrespectful but downright harmful.

[...]

Previously, all of your post is about a discussion and speculation, of which I address with similar manner, but with this above... I'll appreciate a concrete evidence to back up this claim, if you have any. This is a serious allegation, and last I check, this thread is on scam accusations board. We run on evidence here.
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Serious Questions About Shuffle.com (Launched by Former FTX Employee)
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1. Noah Dummett's FTX Connection:
While it's true that Noah has been open about his past employment, the concern is not just about his previous jobs but the potential replication of problematic operational practices. Transparency and accountability are crucial, especially given the legal issues surrounding FTX. Comparing this situation to BitMEX doesn't negate the need for scrutiny. It's not about doing a better job than the FBI, but about continuous vigilance and ensuring ongoing transparency in Shuffle.com's operations to prevent similar issues.

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2. Anonymous Key Personnel:
While privacy is important, the use of aliases by key personnel in a financial service raises red flags. Transparency about the identities of key decision-makers is critical to building trust, especially in the wake of major financial collapses like FTX. Anonymity can be exploited for malicious purposes, and it's in the community's interest to know who is handling their funds.

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3. Potential Operational Similarities to FTX:
Operational practices are fundamental to the integrity of any financial platform. If Shuffle.com is using similar systems to those that failed at FTX, it poses a significant risk. Accessing this data might be challenging, but it's essential for stakeholders to push for audits and transparency to ensure that the same mistakes are not repeated. Bonus systems and user fund management are critical components that can impact the overall stability and fairness of the platform.

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Immediate Actions for Community and Stakeholders
Stakeholders include anyone who has a vested interest in the platform, including users and token holders. Demanding transparency is not only reasonable but necessary to ensure the integrity of the platform. While privacy is important, it should not come at the expense of accountability. Balancing privacy with transparency is key, and there are ways to protect sensitive information while still providing the community with the assurances they need about the platform's operations and the people running it.
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Serious Questions About Shuffle.com (Launched by Former FTX Employee)
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1. Noah Dummett's FTX Connection:
1: Noah have been open about this, and spoken about this in his interviews. There's no other "connection" then working for them. And he has worked for bitmex as well, or is that less shady? Their CEO got jailed too. Do you really think that FTX employees haven't already been investigated during the aftermath of the fall? How are we going to do a better job then FBI on this?

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2. Anonymous Key Personnel:
Shuffle a private company, and i am pretty sure that they don't need to give names of their employees for the public. It's a matter of security and privacy. You might be able to dig them from some public payroll record, but i don't know how that works in overseas.

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3. Potential Operational Similarities to FTX:
Not sure how this would even matter, or how would we get access to this data. And i don't think that any "bonus systems" had anything to do with the fall of ftx.

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What do you mean by stakeholders? Just because we play in there or own $shfl, we aren't stakeholders. But by all means, we can demand a lot and transparency never hurt anyone. Just keep in mind that we also need to accept some limits on that, because with companies that are responsible for god knows how big amounts of customers crypto, there has to be ton of privacy and that means less ways to have an access to their "key" employees by social engineering.
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I am not sure how deep should previous employment record affect one's future career. Is he heavily involved and one of the key person in the decision making behind FTX downfall?

Regarding alias [anonymous key personnel], I am somewhat sure that username like "bob" or "alice" from many platform is not their real name either. Representative of casinos on this forum uses "aliases", they operate under the username of the casino they work for [BC.Game Support, FortuneJack, Sportsbet.io, Rollbit Razer], and even when I get in touch personally with them and they signed their correspondencies with me with a name, I can't be 100% sure that's their real name or just a persona they choose to be used on their career, just like I am extremely sure the name "holydarkness" is not the real name of someone I personally and intimately know.

If you need to know the real identity of people behind shuffle, I think you can inquire to ndumm, see if he'll be a bit lenient and will doxx his own staff for you. Or perhaps do some digging and look into their company registries, I believe some real name will be listed there.

So far, though, I rely on the reputation of each and every casino to determine whether a casino should be approached with a degree of caution or not, and Shuffle is yet to show any yellow flag.
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Serious Questions About Shuffle.com (Launched by Former FTX Employee)

Hello everyone,

I wanted to bring up some serious concerns regarding Shuffle.com, a new platform launched by Noah Dummett, a former employee of FTX. Here are some key points that need your attention, and I’m curious if anyone else has noticed these issues or has additional information:

Background Concerns

1. Noah Dummett's FTX Connection:
   - Noah Dummett, who previously worked at FTX, is behind the launch of Shuffle.com. Given the collapse of FTX and the legal issues surrounding its operations, does anyone else feel uneasy about the integrity and transparency of Shuffle.com?

2. Anonymous Key Personnel:
   - There are key individuals at Shuffle.com using aliases, such as "Cam" and "Brett." It’s been suggested that "Cam" knows Noah from earlier days, and both he and "Brett" are operating under false names. Has anyone else encountered these individuals or have any insight into why they might be using pseudonyms?

3. Potential Operational Similarities to FTX:
   - Given Noah’s history with FTX, it’s crucial to consider whether Shuffle.com might be employing similar operational strategies that led to FTX’s downfall. Has anyone observed any concerning patterns in Shuffle.com's financial transactions, bonus systems, or user fund management practices?

Immediate Actions for Community and Stakeholders

1. Demand Transparency:
   - Should we as a community demand full transparency about the identities of the key personnel at Shuffle.com and their roles within the company?

2. Investigate Transaction Patterns:
   - Are there any blockchain experts here who can help analyze Shuffle.com's transaction history for unusual or suspicious activities, such as repeated small transfers or large sums being moved without clear purpose?

3. Cross-Reference Known Issues:
   - Can anyone help cross-reference Shuffle.com's practices and personnel with known issues and individuals from the FTX collapse? Reviewing public records, legal filings, and other sources of information could be crucial.

4. Engage Regulatory Bodies:
   - Should we report any suspicious activities or findings to relevant regulatory authorities to ensure a thorough investigation is conducted?

5. Community Vigilance:
   - Is everyone willing to stay vigilant and share any suspicious findings with the community? Collective awareness and action can help prevent potential fraud and protect users.

Conclusion

Given the questionable background of its founder, Noah Dummett, and the use of aliases by key personnel, there are serious concerns about the legitimacy of Shuffle.com. It is crucial for the community and stakeholders to demand transparency, thoroughly investigate transaction patterns, and report any suspicious activities to regulatory bodies.

If anyone has additional information or insights into the operations of Shuffle.com, please share them here. Ensuring transparency and protecting users is our collective responsibility.

Thank you!
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