Topic: SeuntjeiBot for Just-Dice.com (Read 2391 times)

This thread has been dead for 5 years... good job necroing it. and it's not even the relevant thread.

You're looking for https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307425.new#new

i cant login to sadfedice using your bot

Can you update my JD address under a1choi:716561 to 1FMZm68kVtESpHEF1R5NmdarvosGkNQ2vg

lol so someone hacked the bot and changed them all to Arrogants bitcoin address? rofl

I apologize to Arrogant for suspecting him. I have no proof that it was he that changed the addies, and I like to believe innocent until proven guilty. I have reactivated the admin portal, so the list mods will be able to update your details again. Please contact us in the JD chat to fix removed or incorrect addies.

I am very sorry that this has occurred, It was probably my fault for not testing the code properly.

I could not find any info on by whom or how the changes were made, but I did find a security flaw in the admin page. This flaw did allow a user to change info without being logged in by doing a direct post to the page. It did NOT allow the creation or deletion of rows or have the bot send funds. There was no compromise of the bot self, the bitcoin daemon it uses, or the VPS it runs on. The list is hosted by a completely different host.

The changes were found within 3 hours of them happening and no rains were sent after the changes were made, so relatively little damage was done (except to my reputation).

I still do not know whether these changes were made by an admin, or whether the flaw was used.

I am in the process of updating the admin page and will have a few trusted peers look at and test it before I reactivate it.

In the mean time, please check that your address and info on the list is correct. If it is not, please post the changes to be made in this thread, or PM them to me here.

My address was changed aswell.

I of course did not edit the addresses, and it's beyond me why anyone would try such a thing.

is there a history which shows all changes made by what account?  that would quickly show some more clues. not sure if its logged tho.

I don't think Arrogant would do something like that. Dude is pretty honest. Maybe a sick setup?

I just noticed that a bunch of addresses on the list of users has been changed without the users consent.

If you go to http://seuntjie.com/jdusers/ and search for the address 1HZLa2EQ8ST2r8D8E3v8odMVykZRALWgAy, you will see a list of people all having the same address, mine was changed as well.

I know for a fact that this address belongs to arrogant, so obviously he is suspect number one for this at the moment, but I will be looking at whether this might some kind of setup (I highly doubt arrogant is stupid enough to duplicate his own list addy)

Until I have made sure that the list is secure, the admin portal to the list will be closed and there will be no rains.

There were no successful rains since the compromise.

I will post updates to this thread.

Yeah, SeuntjieBot != DiceBot

"This thread serves as a discussion area for everything related to SeuntjieBot"

I posted in the other thread.

Wrong thread buddy, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/seuntjies-dicebot-multi-site-multi-strategy-betting-bot-for-dice-with-charts-307425

Checksum Hases: DiceBot-2.4.6 checksums for the .zip file version 2.4.6.

MD5: 88720593147c29a835ff0fca877b43b9

SHA1: 3abd3976d4816148eaca332e293d9c8814dfa450

SHA256: 9c769acd10552f0dd4260fce6719bb3cf4c3003a0efc07e725c35ea163fe2b81

TIGER: 8613d357d474217cace59bcef783328adccccaa0d074934e

WHIRLPOOL: 33146ae014d9af27b412ce9bf9a0db9a3af6b129b986805b5872ba28bae58651fbf7ced70e1f205 3bfa19cedd62a16dcb6ef1b6cb0cc48a6f3eaed169c05e7ea


More info visit this thread : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5740637

You stop hiding behind a newbie account and show who you really are!

Leave Seunjtie alone, no one is perfect, he fixed this issue, he made a bot for all us to gain some rain, has to take fees to operate it and its takes time. nothing in this world is free.

Mikey is more of a problem in Just Dice always wanting more and i think hes a scammer.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5792543

Okay i agree with your 1% fee i would like it to be even more... and im thinking about an separated address to put 8-9% of the btc deposites for when the bot busts.

And I did incorporate. I already admitted we should have done it earlier, and I'm sorry I didn't think about it. We did not attempt to hide the fees in any way, anyone that asked about it got a straight and honest answer, except almost no-one asked, most just went: Look! they're taking a fee! they are scamming us out of our free money!

We did not attempt to steal anything, merely cover the costs of running the bot. as for the "bigger share of the cake than the community conceded you to have" part, I quote one of my earlier posts:


Since we asked on multiple occasions and chose a value at around the middle point, I think the fee was close what the community conceded us to have.

you could have easily incoporatde a line about the fee in the spammy shit your bot creates every day in the trollbox, so I'd say most of what you wrote above is a lie.

you tried to steal a bigger share of the cake than the community conceded you to have and got caught.

it's really as simple as that. by being upstanding and honest you could have avoided that shitstorm.

drfred

I feel some clarification is needed here, since that quote was taken completely out of context.

I did indeed say that I do not care what a random person on the internet thinks of ME, but, as the screenshot fails to show, it was directly after nix insulted me personally. I do care about the opinions of the people that are involved/connected/benefiting etc opinions ABOUT THE BOT. That is why I changed the fee.


As stated before, the fees will be used to cover the hosting expenses for the bot. Until the bot has been running for a few weeks and an average can be calculated, I cannot say if the 1% will actually be enough to cover it. Since I will then personally have to put something into maintaining and hosting the bot, and not just pocketing the fee, I think it is only fair that I am allowed to "catch my own rain", since I am also an active member of the JD community and the rain is meant to be spread out among the active users in chat.

I admit we could have been a bit more transparent with the fee from the start, but there was no attempt to hide the fee. It was included in the article on my site from the start (i guess people just don't read?). I'm sure that if the concerned parties (at least some of them) could just have talked calmly to us instead or screaming SCAM!, this could have been resolved much faster and with less butthurt.


Edit: I'm not Nigerian, btw

Nix is it is greater that 9%. They are catching their own rain as well. This can best be seen with the address they use for automated rains.  

http://blockchain.info/address/1J8FkSk7yJWDqoTArY3bwUB4pL43Vviwz9

The addresses they use the collect the fee's are:

1154PNAp8R1CpRyoSbEMpYr6iGEzgzxJpr
1HszoAk4WCfthq93NJm9J7XFSputmxE2sk

But you will see they are also catching rain with :

http://blockchain.info/address/1D798fdi1Bn86TVFugADKB41gdemSeJZ47

1D79 is use to collect the 9-10% fee from the main rain jar:
http://blockchain.info/address/1RainT5zU58ydgxj2HLArGrddg7tYtuJE

1D79 is under the control of MVDC and all of this information above can be verified in JD chat logs 3-9-14.

The addresses are changing now... point is you cock sucks were charging a hidden fee of 9% and up + catching your own rain.

Edit: Now you have the bot set to tell people there is a 1% fee. At least that is transparent & low... (still gay, but beats the shit out of over 10% for donations you fucking bastards)

Why is the Nigerian running the rain bot anyways?!?!

Seuntjie its pointless talking to you. you have already stated you care not of other opinions. I am just putting this out there. You guys take nearly 10% of everything donated to the chatters for basically abandon-ware/freeware without jd your software is junk.

[edit] fee has been reduced to 1% I think is is a lot more reasonable.

And I would expect an exchange or dice site to have a larger turnaround that 8 btc a month. If the turnaround of the bot increases, the fee % will be decreased.

MVDC and I asked in the chat about what % the fee should be, on multiple occasions. The answers varied from 1% to 20%. Privately we settled on 4.5% each. This was long before the jar even had 2btc depisited. We never thought that the jar would get as many donations as it did.

imagine an exchange taking 9% in fees.
or a dice site with a 9% house edge.

This thread serves as a discussion area for everything related to SeuntjieBot, including the RainJar. Please discuss all topics here, and leave it out of the JD Chat.

More info on the bot here: http://seuntjie.com/article.php?cat=Programs&subcat=Pc&name=SeuntjieBot