Shiny panda and pesos deal.. EU based

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Quote from: killyou73 on February 13, 2018, 07:29:46 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on February 13, 2018, 04:44:38 PM

Quote from: yogg on February 13, 2018, 04:18:06 PM

So .. Yes, I think it kind of protects both buyer and seller to reship the items to a neutral and mutually trusted third party.
But interested parties have to both agree on someone.

You make good points. Seems weird to introduce additional costs and points of failure as a way to improve trade, but I can see why this might be preferred in a scenario with an absence of trust.

It has to be a very trusted 3rd party because they get sent the item and the BTC to pay for it. Which makes no sense to me. Personally I think the same person should not hold the BTC and the item when they are escrow

But it seems that is what people prefer here

I think what you are missing is the fact that I trust minerjones (or ognasty for that matter, but he does not do that type of escrow) to hold both the btc and the item. It is the very definition of trusted escrow that I think you do not properly understand.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 13, 2018, 04:44:38 PM

Quote from: yogg on February 13, 2018, 04:18:06 PM

So .. Yes, I think it kind of protects both buyer and seller to reship the items to a neutral and mutually trusted third party.
But interested parties have to both agree on someone.

You make good points. Seems weird to introduce additional costs and points of failure as a way to improve trade, but I can see why this might be preferred in a scenario with an absence of trust.

It has to be a very trusted 3rd party because they get sent the item and the BTC to pay for it. Which makes no sense to me. Personally I think the same person should not hold the BTC and the item when they are escrow

But it seems that is what people prefer here

Lesbian Cow

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I now use the ship to minerjones, seller gets paid on mj receipt, mj forwards to buyer method when I am the buyer.

I need to use this method as I travel more than 200 days per year due to work so I cannot release payment on receipt of goods - sometimes for up to 4 weeks. This way, i send mj the bitcorns, when mj receives the goods he forwards payment to seller and hangs onto my goods until I am somewhere I can receive mail.

This system works well for me as a buyer. To be honest, when it comes to selling I am rarely/never asked to use escrow so just send directly to buyer.

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Quote from: yogg on February 13, 2018, 04:18:06 PM

So .. Yes, I think it kind of protects both buyer and seller to reship the items to a neutral and mutually trusted third party.
But interested parties have to both agree on someone.

You make good points. Seems weird to introduce additional costs and points of failure as a way to improve trade, but I can see why this might be preferred in a scenario with an absence of trust.

yogg

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 13, 2018, 03:14:29 PM

Which escrow service is this that releases funds before the buyer verifies the goods are received? I want to make sure to never use them or deal with anyone that recommends them. Maybe that's why nobody will buy anything from you anymore?

I think I've seen that be offered several times. I didn't follow the trade to see how it ended, and don't know if it actually happened.
It was like, seller ships to minerjones and the escrow is released upon minerjones' confirmation of item retrieval, then mj reships to the buyer.
I don't exactly remember if minerjones was also acting as escrow or if it was a completely different person.
minerjones is someone I totally trust with the handling of my items.

I wouldn't mind having minerjones as a trusted intermediary in any transaction I'm involved. I wouldn't mind having you as well, Og, as a trusted intermediary.

A dishonest buyer can always claim that he received an empty envelope or package, or something worthless and not agreed on.
A dishonest seller can send a package with a totally different coin, like a €1 or $1, and claim he sent the item.
That dispute would be seller's word against buyer's.

So .. Yes, I think it kind of protects both buyer and seller to reship the items to a neutral and mutually trusted third party.
But interested parties have to both agree on someone.

TMAN's sale looks legit. The coins look beautiful.
I'd purchase these if I could afford them. Tongue

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Quote from: TMAN on February 11, 2018, 05:07:23 PM

Quote from: tweetious on February 11, 2018, 03:36:33 PM

Could you please elaborate on the “UK re shipping service”? If shipping is done within the EU, you will not do shipping directly, but through a UK re-shipping service? What’s the advantages of doing so?

if I have dealt with you before then I will ship direct, if not I will be shipping via a trusted party.

this prevents any scams and allows the escrow to release funds once the re shipper verifies I am shipping what is promissed

Which escrow service is this that releases funds before the buyer verifies the goods are received? I want to make sure to never use them or deal with anyone that recommends them. Maybe that's why nobody will buy anything from you anymore?

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Quote from: tweetious on February 11, 2018, 03:36:33 PM

Could you please elaborate on the “UK re shipping service”? If shipping is done within the EU, you will not do shipping directly, but through a UK re-shipping service? What’s the advantages of doing so?

if I have dealt with you before then I will ship direct, if not I will be shipping via a trusted party.

this prevents any scams and allows the escrow to release funds once the re shipper verifies I am shipping what is promissed

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Could you please elaborate on the “UK re shipping service”? If shipping is done within the EU, you will not do shipping directly, but through a UK re-shipping service? What’s the advantages of doing so?

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Quote from: Zepher on February 11, 2018, 03:26:32 PM

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Quote from: Zepher on February 11, 2018, 02:41:03 PM

Nice shiny Gold Panda Cool

owlcatz stole the one I was after last night Cry

I'll send you a message.

Jeez, I win a few raffles now everyone hates me. Cry

Hate is a strong word, buddy.

It's more along the lines of jealous. As you are a complete fucking luckbox Tongue

Yea, we def dont hate you, just mad jealous of your insane winning streak

Keep it up its almost inspiring (nakamoto) with you manipulating the blockchain to your will

Thanks!

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Quote from: owlcatz on February 11, 2018, 03:01:43 PM

Quote from: Zepher on February 11, 2018, 02:41:03 PM

Nice shiny Gold Panda Cool

owlcatz stole the one I was after last night Cry

I'll send you a message.

Jeez, I win a few raffles now everyone hates me. Cry

Hate is a strong word, buddy.

It's more along the lines of jealous. As you are a complete fucking luckbox Tongue

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Here are some close up shots of one of the 20 pesos. Mayan Calandar on the Obverse, Bad Ass Bird eating a snake on the Reverse.

Really one of my favorite circulated gold coins!

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Quote from: Zepher on February 11, 2018, 02:41:03 PM

Nice shiny Gold Panda Cool

owlcatz stole the one I was after last night Cry

I'll send you a message.

Jeez, I win a few raffles now everyone hates me. Cry

Zepher

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Electricity is really just organized lightning

Nice shiny Gold Panda Cool

owlcatz stole the one I was after last night Cry

I'll send you a message.

TMAN

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Hi, Offering up some shiny coins which came from our resident shiny addict LC.

These are all with me in the EU and have had the Duty paid when importing

1 tray of 15 2016 silver panda's

1 x 30g 999 Gold 2018 Panda. PCGS MS69

2 x 1959 15g 20 Mexican pesos

Escrow OK Zepher or Lauda, although I will be using a UK re shipping service to protect us both.

looking for 0.4BTC including carriage costs

any questions please ask

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