Topic: Shooting in Munich (Read 1933 times)

As long as the authorities treat each shooting as unique and unrelated to terrorist attacks, we need to wait until the germany police said that this is the act of a terrorist.

yes , absolutely this things is going on everywhere on earth.. politicians and company owners must come to terms with their horrible plans over humanity and this terrorism must come to its end for the sake of mankind.

And in the mean time, a few miles north of munich, the first suicide bomber in germany detonated his backpack.
This time a confirmed IS follower. Although the only one wh was killed was himself, he hurt several people badly.
That makes it the second islamistic attack in Germany in one week (before, there was the guy with the axe in the train).
I somehow fear that it is going to become a pretty dark place there now, too.

I am glad that this shooting occurred in Germany, and not in any other EU member nation. It was Führerin Angela Merkel, who caused all this trouble by importing third world immigrants from Pakistan and Afghanistan to Europe. And till now, countries such as France and Belgium were suffering the side-effects. Now it is the turn of Germany to face the music.

The fact that ali david s looked up to anders breivik as a hero and was a supporter of the AfD makes everyone doubt that he really said that.

From the public videos you can see how he is insulting muslims and giving them the fault for his amok run.

There is much more evidence they found on his computer and his room which supports the theory that he was supporting the far right (history of chats and similiar)


Also i tried to find the source for the "allahu akbar" and i can only find that one cnn interview, but nobody else who can confirm it.

Actually it does help if you simply take your blinders off.

Just look at a shooter and what he said about why he did what he did.

Did he shout "I'm shooting you all for Jesus!"

Did he shout "Allah Ackbar!"

Enough said.

Yeah, the muslim fanatics are making their presence felt.

ISIS is not the only fanatical group around.

christians are american. muslims are not german.

Germany doesn't have death penalty. He could get many years in jail if caught. Why is electric chair the best in your opinion? Is non-voluntary organ donor not better for society?

Personally, my opinion. The penalty for such acts, it is necessary to tighten as much as possible. If proven that the person is a terrorist. It is necessary to immediately sit on the electric chair. The civilian population will not suffer any more. Teroristov, die for an idea. All is well.

Just been another attack already, there have been so many attacks happening, when the fuck are the media going to admit what's responsible for all of this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/26/two-men-with-knifes-take-hostages-in-normandy-church/

People are dying for fuck's sake and it's such a piss take to see politicians and journalists dancing around the issue that many of these attacks are by Muslim migrants or Muslim nationals.

You can't be serious. America suffers frequent mass shootings. If most doing them are christian are those examples of christian terrorism? If religion isn't the motivation as it doesn't look to be in this case that is not helpful. Doesn't help understand or solve the problem.

You just revealed yourself as a sockpuppet.

And david s wasnt an islamist. He was a german nationalist. If you people would have just investigated and watched the shit ton of videos about him and munich that are public you would have known.

Fycky fycky? Or boom boom? Really primitive societies... What is upsetting you little demonista? What can't you understand?

Wtf... do you even brain?

Can you please rewrite that so any half sane person could understand it?

Thank you very much.

He was looking for the famous Alan snakbar... When he went in they served him a quarter cheese pound with bacon... By all hazard he found a gun with some munitions and decided to avenge himself by killing those that directed him there... So repeat after me. There is no Isis. There is only psychotic killers not linked to terrorists networks. Radical Islamism is an invention of Donal trump and the far right... When will the people accept the narrative and go along with their daily lives... And please don't even think to suggest anything else... You will be arrested for hate speech and worst called a biggot, racist, low information terrorist!!! And vote Hillary she is a women who knows how to secure her email server and make the foundation billions! 0 breach she told you. Trust merkel!!

Another one cool line: fyky fyky boom boom...

P.s. I don't intent to offend anyone hurt by those tragic and unacceptable recurring events, however if they even take (bad) humor their successive victories are even greater... When all hope is lost at least smile, Death herself maybe pleased;-)

He was registered by the authorities as David S. - Ali S. and Selina Akim were one of his facebook accounts.

Good lord my taxes doesnt pay your welfare anymore (atleast when brexit finally happens).

Fuck me, I didn't know that, well done for posting another news source, should have known better than to trust the BBC to report on this properly.

I am really sorry for those lives lost, but this kind of attacks or killings are not something new but as long as we live in a world where every one just trying to have all for themselves then comes chaos and always will be a special group of people that always go to the extremes.
One thing is not certain and clear which is why these people do what they did? what is to gain?

This world is a place when you can do what ever you want because we all have free will but when we never face any consequences then we continue to do what the hell ever we want. you need to find the reason behind these attacks which in my arrogant opinion is our governments.

Theres a lot of terrorism in that part of Europe. They must strengthen or tighten their security. That affects also their economy. I guess theres another terrorism groups are being created. I guess this terrorism in Europe is just starting

Do they have gun control over in Europe? I wonder if this kind of thing happens in Switzerland.

Using the internet for an investigation seems incredible hard nowadays or it is just not a strong point of majority of the posters in this thread (not even talking about the usual sig spam).

Of course it could be also that non german journalist just terribly suck at their job - who knows god moves in mysterious ways.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/23/bbc-scrubs-muslim-name-ali-munich-killer-article/

Most sources at this point suggest that Ali David Sonboly – the Munich attacker who targeted children and killed nine yesterday – is not connected to radical Islam, but the BBC has gone to extraordinary lengths to try to keep any reference to his heritage out of its coverage, opting to name him only as “David Sonboly”.

Other news organisations including the Wall Street Journal, Independent, Daily Mail, and Sky News named the attacker as “Ali David Sonboly” or “David Ali Sonboly”. CNN even referred to him simply as “Ali Sonboly”.

We cannot conclude that statement. Maybe he had connections with terrorist. 

Oh really?  Look at what you are saying.  We should all trust the German Government.

So, that defeats your own logic.

I would say we should probably not jump the gun as several investigation are ongoing as at then we can now comment be cause when issues like this happens there are various conspiracies and counter conspiracies coming as a result of that. So until the German Authority comes out with a position or a group claim responsibility for such drastic and unfortunate incident...my 2 cents..,

Stuff like this happen all the time in Nigeria, people are so used to it by now that they just continue with their routine tasks as the announcements come in the morning news.

False.  It looks like islamic terrorism, feels like islamic terrorism, you know what?

....Witnesses said that the gunman screamed ‘I’m German’ and ‘Allahu Akbar’ before shooting at children.

If you still have trouble thinking it out here's more help.

The shooter was Muslim.  Therefore, the shooter believed in Islam.  The shooted committed a terrorist attack.

Muslim + terror attack = Islamic terrorism.

Smuggling. US is surrounded by ocean and heavily guarded border, Europe is connected by land and open border.

How, a kid can find 300 bullets in Germany? Even in US is not easy to find. Who is supporting all these crazies?

In fact, I believe that last terrorist attacks are not connected directly with ISIS.
I believe that most of the recent attackers, in Nice, France, in Germany train or in Munich now never was in Syria or Iraq or received direct training by ISIS.
They did it because they became inspired about ISIS and their terrorist agenda over Internet.
So, I'm really afraid that such kind of terrorist attacks we can't prevent in the future.
We can fight with real, concrete people but it's almost impossible to find with idea.

 

The Turks don't seem to get along with anybody in the middle east, they regularly shit on the Kurds, they're like the Irish in western terms, so no wonder they hate each other and I think Turkey has gone and attacked Armenia on numerous occasions and Iran has been starting to get themselves involved in some of the conflicts happening at their border, I believe they've occasionally been helping the Kurds fight ISIS and so on which may indicate why some Turks would be pissed off with Iran.

Now do you guys remember some of these fuckers who have come onto this board to spam anti-semitism and so on? A few of them claimed to be Turkish nationalists or from Turkey, which would go to explaining their attitude towards people outside the country. These are the types who are hardcore Muslims and want to restore the Ottomon empire so they pretty much think that any other country surrounding them that was made post Ottomon is illegitimate.

It feels like all these fucking migrants are bringing their guerilla war into Europe because they're getting the shit kicked out of them everywhere else and to me that makes sense, because what better place to take cover in than somewhere where the Americans wouldn't dare to bombard like they usually do?

Here's another news source on the guy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/23/munich-shooting-german-iranian-gunman-targeted-children-outside/

Seems like this was really just one guy.
18 years old and admired Breivik, whose shooting happend exactly 5 years ago, on the day.
From all it seems it had nothing to do with islamic terror.
Just one of those completely messed up kids you find too many on this planet.

Has there been any update on this? Do we have any German members? What are they saying on the local news about this?
There has been some coverage of this in the US but not a ton.

It did end up being just one shooter?
(At first they reported it may have been up to three people)

Who gave him the gun? Secret services?

Whole society is completely sick. Islamists are just a symptom, but they're not the only one.

I read that these where anti immigration "protestors2 but it seems more like an isis thing than anything else. Im not sure if the victims that where shot where just everyday germans or perhaps they where muslims being taken out by german radicals who are sick of germanys open borders policy. Hard to say at this point in time.

Aren't all terrorist mentally sick?

Iranians are not Turks, why would he feel offended?

Just a mentally sick societal loser. Nothing islam related.

That's really scary, this kind of stuff is happening everywhere.

not islamic terrorism this time, this muslim had a german passport

The shooter was german-iranian. So I assume this wasn't anti-immigration. Maybe more anti-turks. From cnn http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/22/europe/germany-munich-shooting/ "A profanity-filled verbal exchange between a man who matches the description of the Munich shooter and a witness was posted on social media Friday. The exchange, recorded on two different camera phones, captured an intense conversation that ends in gunfire. The man who appears to be a shooter said insulting things about Turks, did not espouse jihadist ideology and spoke with a German accent."

For the innocent victims and their families whether is there a difference  if they died by the hand of a Muslim or from the hand of an opponent of Muslims? It's a fact that  politicians rapidly are leading us to a war in which the main victim will be "ordinary" person.

'A witness, Luan Zequiri, said he was at the scene when the shooting broke out near the McDonald’s restaurant.

He told the German broadcaster N-tv that he heard the attacker yell an anti-foreigner slur and “there was a really loud scream”.'

so germans are killing their own? i guess we'll know something more soon. isis might regret big upping their soliders of islam which they were doing if that's true.

Probably won't know much until German authorities catch one or more of these guys or til these guys come back out of hiding for more carnage.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36870874

Looks like this time it may not have been ISIS this time, but they're still confirming details, this doesn't seem like a bunch of random acts to me anymore, it's like there's a guerilla war going on in Europe.